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OGA BEEG pls go to youtube and subscribe to these man and watch his video it is very imformative about world what is going on in america and why everybody is buying arms in the US it is scary….
don’t waste your time just ANOTHER scaremonger
(Laughing)How did you discover this number of loose cannons, Benjy?
Beegeagle,
Sorry, can you give me an update on the procurement of SandCat MRAPs from OshKosh. have the vehicles been delivered and I hope they are in large quantity to help us in COIN operations against the bombers who bent on carrying out another Holocaust in Nigeria.
I am locked onto that story like a heat-seeking missile. As soon as deliveries are recorded, we shall splash the story right here for us all to read.
Welcome to our blog.
The pleasure is mine joining this mind broadening forum. I love what is going on here, as I have taken intellectual excursion to issues up to 2010.
Thanks a bunch for welcoming me on board.
Is this Cobra part of new supplies from Otokar Turkey or part of decades long procurement for the NA?
First time I heard of them was February 2007. President Obasanjo it was who placed the order for the Otokar Cobra APCs.
Concerning the numbers, we have 204 units. The UN Register of Conventional Arms Transfers documented the delivery of 55 units in 2007 and 149 units in 2008.
The Otokar Cobra and the Panhard VBL scout cars, of which we own 72 units, form the backbone of CT-COIN armoured vehicles. These are either armed with GPMGs or .50 calibre HMGs for urban operations.
The NA can afford to deploy another 55 units of 30mm cannon-armed Fox scout cars but they have not been fielded anywhere. The Fox is the successor vehicle to the venerable Ferret which is being fielded right this minute by the KDF in Somalia. So if the KDF are fielding the Ferret, why are we not using the Fox which carries a powerful COIN-grade weapon to boot?
Beyond these 204 Otokar Cobra APCs, the NA own
300 units of Steyr 4K-7FA tracked APCs
67 units of MT-LB tracked APCs
140 units of MOWAG Piranha APCs
5 Engesa EE-11 Urutu wheeled APCs
47 BTR-3 wheeled APCs
18 modernised BTR-70 wheeled APCs
18 Panhard M3 wheeled APCs
6 BTR-60 wheeled APCs
12 GILA MRAPs
817 APCs(10 Saracen APCs left out by me)
For light tanks, they can muster
150 Scorpion light tanks
5 Scimitar light tanks
155 light tanks
For heavy AFVs, they can call up
46 Panhard Sagaie 90mm AFVs
120 Panhard AML 90 (90mm AFVs)
60 Panhard AML 60 (60mm mortar AFVs)
75 EE-9 Cascavel (90mm AFVs)
301 AFVs(10 Saladin AFVs left out by me)
For scout cars, they can call up
72 Panhard VBLs
55 Fox scout cars
127 scout cars
Main Battle Tanks
170 Vickers Mk.3 Eagle
100 T55 tanks
77 T72 tanks
16 AMX 30 tanks
363 MBTs
TOWED, ROCKET AND SP ARTILLERY
200 units of M56 105mm towed arty
18 units of Otomelara 105mm arty
200 units of D30 122mm towed arty
11 units of M46 130mm towed arty
4 units of 152mm towed arty
25 units of FH77A 155mm towed arty
48 units of FH77B 155mm towed arty
50 units of Palmaria 155mm SP arty
30 units of APR-21/BM-21 122mm MRLs
590 pieces(510 towed,50 SP,30 MRL)
(excluding mortars, AA guns, SP AA guns, AT guns, RCLs, ATGWs and SAMs numbering 750+)
READ
http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/exclusive-nigerian-artillery-assets-consistently-under-enumerated-in-military-balance-reports/
Okay, does anyone still remember that we own 55 units of Fox scout cars? Why are we not using them to complement the 72 units of Panhard VBLs and 204 units of Otokar Cobra APCs for urban CT-COIN ops?
Fox Scout Car
The Fox are 30mm cannon-armed vehicles which can be deployed in very heavy urban theatre fighting in the same way as Mi-35P attack helics carry 30mm cannons. So why are we not seeing the Fox scout cars in action? Going by the excellent track record of the Ferret scout car (which are RIGHT NOW deployed in Somalia by the KDF-Army), HOW COME we have that number of Fox scout cars, which are the Ferret’s successor in much the same way as the Scorpion light tank replaced the venerable Saladin AFV, yet we are not using them at a time like this?
KDF Ferret scout car in Somalia, Q4 2011
May be servicability issues ??
Hello Beeg, I don’t think the 16 AMX tanks serve as MBTs, rather they are the chassis on which the 16 units of Roland 2 SAMS are deployed.(i.e if they are still working)
About the T72s, its a tricky issue, I don’t think anyone has come across them yet.
@Deway, the M-113 like apc chasis used to carry the roland SAMs was on display during the 50th anniversary military parade sans the missiles.
I can only post the entire 7 minute footage on you tube. You have to look carefully to differentiate the SAM carrier from the vickers tanks, scorpion AFVs, and other APCs,
See time mark: 7:06 of footage.
On 2nd thought, you are right @deway the SAM carrier looks more like a Tank chassis, that the M-133 APC.
Look through this thread and see where we were in 2000 – 50 T55s by all accounts.
http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/05/16/exclusive-nigerian-artillery-assets-consistently-under-enumerated-in-military-balance-reports/
Then, they commenced shopping for surplus army equipment from the defunct East bloc – BTR-70s, MT-LBs, SAM-7s and T72 tanks
http://strategypage.com/htmw/htarm/articles/20020514.aspx
http://armyrecognition.com/nigeria_uk/nigeria_nigerian_army_land_ground_forces_military_equipment_armoured_vehicle_pictures_information_de.html
Follow up:
Soon, they also took delivery of 48 units of FH77B 155mm howitzers, 10 more Scorpion tanks(to make 150) and 20 more Mk.3 MBTs(to make 170) – see IISS Military Balance to be sure
That haul of British tanks and large-calibre artillery was not reflected in SIPRI or the UN Register. Unlike people who obliquely tell you that SIPRI do not capture it all, there are dozens of sharp defence websites where you can get snippets which build up to the big picture and we build up to that WITH SOURCES. What we do not accept is CLAIMING but not being able to come up with even one source – whether or not SIPRI or the UN Register have it logged. Neither of them have the mid-2000s delivery of 48 units of FH-77B 155mm arty, 10 more Scorpion tanks and 20 more Vickers MBTs
£53MILLION ARMOUR AND ARTILLERY DEAL
http://guardian.co.uk/politics/2005/jun/12/uk.hearafrica05
There is a reason why the latter-day and redesignated 22 Armoured Brigade, Nigeria’s largely unknown and number three armoured brigade, exists. You do not create a new armoured brigade worth its salt without a concommitant delivery of new hardware.
http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/heads-up-global-security-and-orbat-nigerian-army-orbat-fraught-with-errors/
Since you are in Nigeria, you might want to go there and see. I am sure that 99% of Nigerians have not seen the Fox scout cars either.
Okay, related but not NA. Check out these APCs and comment – scroll to the bottom of the page.
What brand of APCs is this?
http://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/05/22/tokens-of-operational-support-ogun-state-govt-present-apcs-to-state-police-command/#comment-10825
It is a Police APC called Pit-Bull and made in the US by a company called Alpine.