An upgraded BTR 70 APC
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Mtlb or btr 70?
Yeah..I thought so instinctively but on closer examination, I knew we had found something special. We do have MT-LB and Otokar Cobra APCs in Darfur but this is a BTR-70.
We own
– 6 units of BTR-60
– 18 modernised units of BTR-70
– 47 units of BTR-3
What caught my attention was those ventilators up there which are not on the MT-LB (we own 67 units of those which were modernised before delivery from Poland). The trim board(metal flap) in front of the windshield which has the horizontal lines is not on the MT-LB. Finally, the windshields of the MT-LB are smaller and spread farther apart. The MT-LB also has a lower silhouette. It is the same chassis on which the PT-76 light tank was built.
As soon as it became clear that this was a BTR, the only problem which I had was determining whether it was a BTR-60, a BTR-70 or a BTR-3.
That trim board(metal flap) with the vertical lines lying flat in front of the windshield was the unique and final giveaway.
MT-LB
Compare – the trim board(flap), the spacing of the windshield. AUTHENTICALLY, A BTR 70
This photo posted just above here appears to be a BTR-3 (Based on the turret).
I concur!!!!!
I concur, to beeg
Doesn’t the btr have a heavy machine gun as the main weapon,and not just a gpmg
This is blatantly a BTR-6. The BTR-70 has a lower chassis, and smaller turret
It is a btr 70
Typo BTR-3
Naa, my Commander. Forget the turreted weapon which you see and focus on the ventilators and trim board (metal flap). The BTR-60s I saw at 3 Div do not have that trim board(flap) while the BTR-3 is 1.5-1.65 times bigger than the BTR-60/BTR-70 and carries a weapon station with a 30mm cannon.
This is a BTR-70. Some come in IFV and others in APC variants. We got the APC variants while most of the BTR-3s are IFV variants with a very powerful weapon station
The Size will be the determining factor. I cannot really do any comparisms with the pic, but clearly you have done that. Kudos. I concour as well
Yeah, my Ogas. It was the longest research I ever done on a photo :-). It took a lot of attention to detail and a mix of what we have concretely seen – I once saw a MT-LB with a tail dozer at a Lagos cantonment and a BTR-60 in Jos. So what was left was deciding whether it was a BTR-70 or a BTR-3. When I remembered that the BTR-3 are mostly IFVs with 30mm cannons and not APCs, the job was two-thirds done. That trim board(METAL FLAP) with vertical lines in front of the visor did it.
Those rough Russians gave me something to crack this old head on. Was really pleased to have seen this photo.
Yeah, the BTR-3 is a 16.5 ton beast with a monstrous weapon station. It promises to be as fabled as the Shilka once we use it on a battlefield.
Mali sosai..
Not at all a BTR-3. Here is what nearly all our BTR-3s look like – IFV variants rather than APCs. Dread that weapon station
BTR-3U (IFV variants are NA mainstay)
Armament
The BTR-3U is fitted with the one-person KBA-105 “Shkval” unified fighting module which can accommodate 30mm gun, 7.62mm coaxial machine gun,30mm automatic grenade launcher and anti- tank guided weapons. This module was developed by the State Scientific Technical Centre of Artillery & Rifle Arms of Ukraine.
– The 30 mm dual-feed cannon has 350 rounds of ready-use ammunition.
– A total of 2,500 rounds are carried for the 7.62mm coaxial machine gun.
– The 30 mm grenade launcher is mounted on the left side of the turret, having 29 rounds of ready-use ammunition, with additional 87 rounds being carried in reserve (three magazines, each containing 29 rounds).
– Six 81 mm electrically operated smoke/aerosol grenade launchers are mounted three either side of the turret rear and firing forwards.
The sighting systems include a commander’s 1PZ-3 observation periscope and a TKN-4S Agat stabilised sight which is integrated with the missile fire control system.
40 of our 47 units of BTR-3 are U-series IFV variants while seven are E-series APC-type units which carry the 14.5mm HMG
30 BTR-3UN
6 BTR-3UK
4 BTR-3UR and
7 BTR-3E/14.5
The BTR 70 has IFV and APC variants. The IFV variant carries a 14.5mm HMG while the basic APC carries a GPMG. We have the APC variants of BTR-70.
I just showed this IFV variant as an example because it shows that trim board(metal flap) with the vertical lines very clearly lying in front of the visor. Just look at the whole portion in front of that windshield and you would know that we are 100% correct about this being a BTR 70.
Note also that there are IFV and APC variants of BTR 70. No confusion, buddy.
It is a BTR-70
The beast itself.
permit if i am wrong but not one of you talked about the number of wheels 6 or 8 variety or am i throwing smoke grenades over to you experts.
Wow !! it looks like all president OBJ’s arms purchases, were made strickly to support the darfur and liberian UN missions.
The MTLBs and the BTR’s all seem to be in darfur.
Who knows, may be our hard to find T-72 (czech upgrades) are deployed in darfur too. (LOL)
Just imagine the psychological impact of a picture depicting these IFVs shoulder to shoulder with french APCs currently deployed in mali ?
Nice pics
We need to standardise on four pairings of APCs
– Seek out upgrades and rest on the tracked Steyr and MT-LB APCs until 2025
– Stretch the pool of desert-proven BTR-series thus
* 100 more units of upgraded BTR 70s
* 75 units of BTR-3
– Acquire 100 units of surplus upgraded variants of VAB APCs
I doubt that the total of 200 units of BTR-70s and VABs would cost us more than US$40 million.
Even Turkey acquired 400 units of older BTR-60s..about 400 units at bargain prices. Those BTR-60 APCs are paired with Otokar Cobra for COIN operations in Kurdistan.
Yeah beeg, the iraqis just acquired 500 MT-LBs for about 90 million USD if I still remember correctly. Myammar have an order for about a thousand units of different variants of the BTR-3, and how rich is Myanmar ?
People always assume that these things cost a lot of money. Compared to what Nigeria has to spend, and what it has to protect, this is pocket change.
I really cant fathom why the armed forces buy armaments, piecemeal. how much will 350 BTRs cost? They can get the refurbished BTR 70s and 80s, in addition to the Ukrainian made BTR3s and BTR4s. these APCs are not that expensive and NA need to get a massive haul of AFVs.
NA workshops need to be up to date, including their mobile workshop that they need during expeditionary duties
If you think it is the number put on the internet we own, you are a learner…
Yaa oga tim. Like the world use to say “NIGERIA is a secretive nation full of suprises both positive & negative”.
This reminds me of when beegeagle wrote of a resident of maiduguri speculating dat the number of otokar cobras deployed there is up to 2000. It gets me thinking, can an adult actually do such an overestimation or it is just the reality on ground.
One cannot hide the purchase and sale of these sort of weapon systems in this day and age. Secretive or not, nigeria cannot hide it’s ORBAT.
If we purchased more APCs, there must be documentation somewhere.
@ oga doziex,oga beeg has shown us time without number that nigeria has made purchases which went under the radar or were grossly under recorded so its possible for nigeria 2 mak purchases which werent recorded.
RIGHT NOW Nigeria has more SHALDAGS THAN IS BEING REPORTED .this is true.Nigeria with it’s secrecy .S.M.H.(TAKE 1)
Right now you never know with Naija unless you go to the COMPANY’S ‘s web site and then put 2+2 together of country versus need then you figure them out. OGA DOZIEX They have graduated from “unnamed West African client “to” unnamed AFRICAN client” there that should confuse you S.M.H. (TAKE 2)
Eq Guines also has Shadags. As far as I know Nigeria Currently has 4 Shadags.
Shaldags.
No that is incorrect I SAW PHOTOS OF THE BRAND NEW SHALDAGS being shipped to Nigeria ,I
believe Nigeria has between 4 and 6
That might very well be the case. I only know of 4 confirmed boats.
P255, AND P256
Okay, what my chronicles tell me is that we have so far taken delivery of FIVE Shaldag Fast Patrol Craft
During the BH uprising of July 2009, President Yar’Adua of blessed memory visited Brazil and Israel. In Israel, he signed a contract for the supply of two units of Shaldag FPCs.
Last year, the MoD signed contracts for the delivery of
– three Shaldag FPCs
– three OCEA FPB 72 Mk.II CPCs
– six Manta ASD Littoral Interceptors
– four naval helicopters
Through the Nigeria Ports Authority
– two 17m KND Littoral Interceptors
– one OCEA FPB 98 Mk.II CPC
Through NIMASA
(signed, continuing deliveries)
– twenty armoured patrol boats
– three Offshore Support Vessels