NIGERIAN FORCES KILL 50 TERRORISTS, DESTROY 20 VEHICLES IN COMBAT OPERATIONS ; 15 TROOPS FEARED DEAD, MOSTLY KILLED DURING THE ATTACK ON BAMA BARRACKS

Nigerian Army troops prepare to deploy for operations in Borno

LAGOS, Dec. 23 (Xinhua)

The Nigerian defense authority on Monday said more than 70 people have been killed in clashes between the army and members of the Boko Haram militant group in the northeast, following last Friday’s pre-dawn attacks on a military barracks in Bama town.

“Over 50 of them (Boko Haram) died in the course of exchange of fire with
ground troops in the ongoing operations to apprehend fleeing terrorists,” Major General Chris Olukolade, the defense director of information, said in a statement obtained by Xinhua.

He said the military also lost 15 soldiers mostly from the attack while some died during the pursuit, adding that a total of five civilians also died during the attack.

According to Olukolade, the military
operations led to the destruction of over 20 vehicles conveying escaping militants. He added that the vehicles were the ones used during the attack on the barracks and were sighted through air surveillance as the militants were making efforts to
cross the borders back to their haven in Cameroon.

Last Friday, the military said Bama
barracks was attacked by militants who came from cells located across Nigeria’s border with Cameroon through Banki town, adding that high caliber weapons such as anti-aircraft and rocket propelled guns were freely used in the attack that lasted several hours.

Bama town, about 65 km from Maiduguri, the Borno State capital, had suffered numerous attacks from Boko Haram insurgents, forcing some residents to flee. Many residents were killed in May when suspected militants raided Bama Town, killing mostly children and women.

Violence has intensified in northeastern Nigeria since President Goodluck Jonathan ordered his security forces in May to crush Boko Haram’s four-year-old rebellion. The Nigerian forces have been raiding
militant camps and launching air and
ground attacks on suspected hideouts of the militants over the past two months.

Borno State, located in Nigeria’s
northeast region, is a flashpoint of
attacks perpetrated by Boko Haram since 2009, when the sect launched its insurgency targeting churches, security facilities, schools and villages.

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130 Responses to NIGERIAN FORCES KILL 50 TERRORISTS, DESTROY 20 VEHICLES IN COMBAT OPERATIONS ; 15 TROOPS FEARED DEAD, MOSTLY KILLED DURING THE ATTACK ON BAMA BARRACKS

  1. Akin Oges says:

    50 terrorists killed! Better. More of this success story. On the other hand, I trust the lessons have been learnt about base protection; and it must start with simple thing(s): vigilant state of mind always, no letting up the alert level. My condolence to the families of the Officers/men and Nigerians who lost love once. The journey to nationhood is fraught with such heart rending costs. I will sign off by imploring the FG to provide the hardwares and funds to the military (particularly the Army) to provide security to Nigerians; remember, you don’t clean faeces with bare hands. We can pontificate about the operational awkwardness of the military, however, if they are emasculated by way of lack of equipments and funds they are no good to themselves or Nigerians. Please act promptly.

  2. Kf says:

    I suggest air surveillance of the waza national park in cameroon that closely borders bama. This guys have probably created another sambisa like redoubt in that area of cameroon. By the way why are the cameroonians sitting this out?

  3. igbi says:

    Can someone tell me why Aljazeera always defends terrorists ? Why ? Why ?
    Just read their last article about Nigeria, they are trying to justify boko haram and to legitimize them, and ofcourse to portray them as victors. What is it with the Qatari and terrorism ? They seem to be in love. So Qatar officials, if you are listening then leave us alone ! Take your terrorism else where, we are not buying.

  4. Yagazie says:

    Gentlement- the time may now have come when our Govt has got to give serious consideration to allowing our millitary to pursue escaping BH terrorists into Camerounian territory. Please I don’t make this suggestion lightly as I am aware of the political ramifications such a change in policy may cause- but we can’t continue having our millitary bases/towns attacked by BH terrorists operating from Cameroun. If we have been having dialogue with the Camerounian Govt on this issue and yet the cross border attacks still continue, then it may be that more drastic measures may now have to be taken by our Govt.

    • jimmy says:

      OGA YAGAZIE
      Much respect for your comments as we are aware that people read our comments we are sure they at this point have a very good inkling where these REAR BASES ARE IN CAMEROON.
      We can tell from google the easiest way is through the A4 highway through BAMA this is not news to Military intelligence.
      This is what should concern the Military intelligence of both Cameroon and Nigeria without the emotion: A deputy GOVERNOR ( BORNO) has called directly for A MILITARY BASE to be situated along the border of Cameroon and Nigeria.
      This week for the first time one of Nigeria’s most SENIOR 2- star GENERALS in his press briefing disclosed that the terrorists came from Cameroon and were attempting to get back to Cameroon when their trucks were INTERCEPTED.
      An infamous Mafia gangster was once asked ” why do you rob Banks? his reply was because that is where the money is”
      Why would Nigeria cross into Cameroon? because that’s where boko haram sleep at Night.

      • Sideways&smilling says:

        True, true, i don’t see why the Air Force shouldn’t be allowed to drop some presents on their camps in ‘you know where’.
        – Just drop some bombs
        – Disappear
        – & shut up
        – Israeli-style
        Let france and HRW bark all they want. We can’t keep reading news like this😦

  5. rka says:

    I can’t see the Americans or Israelis sitting back and dialoguing if their territories are constantly being attacked from outside.

    They would react first and justify later on. Tell me, who would begrudge Nigeria carrying out a unilateral strike against BH in Cameroon while in hot pursuit or having identified a training camp over the border?

    • igbi says:

      What is Jonathan waiting for to give the army the green light ?
      Is the life of a Nigerian that meaningless to him ?
      There is no other country in the world which would let its citizens and its military to be abused by its neighbor in this manner. You just can’t play politics with everything, this is where we draw the line !

  6. startrek says:

    Perhaps SOP Forces are already doing just that … Nigerian armed forces are notorious for secrecy .. more so when it comes to such ops

  7. drag_on says:

    Sometimes in International politics you need undeniable/cumulative evidence to leave no-one in doubt that boko-haram is based in Cameroon,and is inflicting civilian casualties on Nigerian citizens in order to justify an incursion into sovereign territory. Diplomacy demands we table our grievances before the General Assembly or Security Council ( with evidence)before we act. I am quite sure we are gathering the required evidence.Once Cameroon is warned by the General Assembly and they do nothing about it,resulting in more raids by boko haram, we will be justified in our assaults on Cameroonian territory and France can’t react to it.

  8. naijaseal says:

    @drag_on,
    The UN under Ban Ki Moon is no friend of Nigeria. Remember how we got treated in Mali?
    If we are waiting on UN go ahead before acting in self defence by executing pin point attacts on BH
    bases in Cameroun, then our leaders must be on a longggg thing.
    Imagine US or even Isreal waiting for UN go ahead before striking terrorist bases or HVT…

    The C in C should man up and give the military the go ahead to do the needful. Enough said…

  9. Solorex says:

    A more tidy option is to strengthen the existing joint border patrols greatly by expanding it to include several armed helicopter patrols (leaving from and returning to Nigeria), We could establish a few barracks along the border line ( we have to be careful to provoke Cameroon to believe that we have land grab plans).

    Finally, I still believe that with good investment in hardware, technology and cooperation of Cameroon, we can decimate Boko Haram from a strong fighting force to bandit formations that can be handled by regular police.

  10. Solorex says:

    Sirs, Cameroon has a small military (Army+Navy+Airforce under 40,000 soldiers) and a very small budget (smaller the Nigerian Police budget) designed only to prevent coups and civil disorder. They do not have the capability to prevent BokoHaram settlement on their territory. Secondly, Cameroon is not supporting BokoHaram in any way (they are actually doing their very little bits to help). Thirdly, the Problem named Boko haram was conceived, birthed and nurtured on Nigerian Soil. Fourthly, Boko Haram became a Cameroonian problem simply because of Nigeria’s inability (actually complacency) to nip it in the bud and manage it wisely. BokoHaram is not targeting Cameroonian government interest( they don’t even rob Cameroonian banks) and the government won’t want that to change; it is wise for them to stay out till Nigeria Shows resolve and good leadership.

    You cannot breed your children as thieves and threaten to smoke then out of your neighbor’s farm by setting it ablaze! It will be unexplainable to the international community and no diplomacy will help you out. It’s going to be treated as a simply case of regional bullying!

    Moreso, France is a world power and would not be afraid to take unilateral actions as expedient to protect a tightly allied former colony. Let us also not forget that We can pressure Cameroon by threatening airstrikes but Dassault Mirage 2000 plus a dozen Dassault Rafale parked at a northern Cameroonian Airbase coupled with just 4 French Frigates (plus 4 missile craft) off the Cameroonian coast automatically cuts all our presumed military advantage to nothingness. We have neglected our military for several years and we cannot call the bluff of France, we do not have the capacity (Countries like Algeria or Egypt can do that easily).

    • Blackrev says:

      the last part of your comment is what a lot of us seem to ignore. no need to say more

    • peccavi says:

      Nothing further to add

    • doziex says:

      I agree completely.

    • igbi says:

      I disagree, I think our military is still stronger than that of Algeria. And I think we can shove up our airforce verry quickly and shove up our air defence even quicker. And frnace doesn’t even have the capability to go to Syria alone ! Eventhough french interests are involved. So let us stop being cowards for a minut. France doesn’t think africans are entited to self rule and as a matter of fact still controls all its former black colonies (with some exception). If Nigeria doesn’t do with all her weaponry what algeria did with a few gunmen (which is to say: stand as a country and say: you will respect my peaople) then why not let france chose our next president for us ? There is such a thing as liberty or death, the life of a Nigerian is worth a lot and everybody should know that.
      Nigeria is not a push over and they shall never forget that.

      • doziex says:

        Oga igbi I beg stop. This is the kind of delusion that made Saddam Hussein think he could take on the might of the US armed forces.
        Military observers in africa, are aware of the multi billion usd, multi year spending spree, that has brought Algeria it current status.
        Nigeria is currently in no shape to do anything about Algeria, let alone France.

        We can change this status quo, if we show some ambition to be a great continental power.
        But as things stand, we must learn the limitations our chosen military weakness, lest someone makes an example of us.

    • adickmish says:

      Very good and interesting point Solorex. The odds are not in our favour and nobody to support us in the UN. The ball is in our court.

      • igbi says:

        France will never risk a war with Nigeria, all france can do is bluff. And the odds are in Nigeria’s favor.

  11. rka says:

    Nigeria has to play the game. We know we are no match for the French as things stand, but it doesn’t preclude covert operations as already mentioned (deny everything if accused) and until these so called French assets are deployed (if at all), it still doesn’t prevent strikes at fleeing BH insurgents crossing into Cameroon.

    Maybe the presence of French Mirage 2000, FC1 and Rafale fighters will also make BH sit up in Northern Cameroon and may well draw the French and Cameroonian military into the fray.

  12. freeegulf says:

    oga solorex, you say all this, but you tend to forget that we have economic leverage. you are overestimating the position of the french. whether they park rafale jets in Dioula or base foreign legion in Yaounde, we are not some tinny republic that little france can bully.
    the french investment in the nigerian oil and gas sector wouldn’t even allow them such gunboat diplomacy.

    our leaders are to blame. they have neither the vision or the sincerity to work purposely for the nation. a serious nigeria would maintain the peace in west and central africa, but hey, we are busy fighting about 2015 elections. maybe this is why our military is deliberately weakened since we dont know what global finance and speculators got planned for us come 2015.

    as for france, their deterrence only worked in the 60s and 70s, not now that they got billions invested in the nigerian economy. always follow the money!

    these myopic leaders and bereft of ideas and do not understand the meaning of pax nigeriana

    • igbi says:

      All france can do is bluff. France would never risk a war with Nigeria, and risk its position in west africa.

      • doziex says:

        Not necessarily. A weak nigerian military, coupled with a weak nation wracked by sectarian divide.
        Presents a very tempting target to likes of france, the Uk and perhaps algeria.

      • igbi says:

        algeria, the country where generals never retire. Algeria is the most corrupt country on earth. And military experts like those who wrote the “global fire power” put us way ahead of algeria.

  13. ifiok umoeka says:

    Merry christmas brothers.

    • ifiok umoeka says:

      I’ve tried hard not 2 comment this few days. I keep wondering how those calling for our attack on cameroun expect it to be done, trek there or use our venerable pickups( not 4geting the desert camo) and drive down right! Economic what? We are so vulnerable in the oil sector as our only meaningful export that we would be foolish to toy with it! Incidentally we are not as suicidal as the south sudanese and I’m sure u are reading the news right with the US divesting from our crude buys (shell/shale gas the call it I think). Now we are pursing new markets! Oga solorex is on point I think. Get us minimal deterrence then talk of engaging in deep strikes so if the camerounians say no u can still go ahead. I think that makes more sense

  14. freeegulf says:

    no one wakes up and start divesting. our military (might) has never been our strongpoint. its the potential value of the nation, from the economic perspective, that keeps us, heads above water.

    i will repeat this once again, you guys all give the french so much undue credit. i will only panic if the yanks where the ones hovering around us, not some european country trying to rejuvenate colonial history.

    don’t get this wrong, yes, we do need modern weapons. but my point is that, these weapons re not what makes nigeria a powerhouse. there are several dynamics at play, the principal one being petroleum.

    nigeria is like russia, underestimate her to your own wahala. looking at the picture, they look like a walk over. indeed, at the beginning, it will feel like a walkover, but that is where nations like nigeria and russia start bringing their acts together and do eternal damage. its quite unfortunate that nations like these have to take hard punches before roaring like giants.

    if france can convince NATO to come set up shop on our eastern seaboard so be it. maybe we will finally wake up

    as for cameroun, they will only trek to paris and back, and nothing fruitful or beneficial would come out of it!
    even the french dragged their ears towards ICJ in ’94. why didn’t they launch the might air armee against gen sani abacha.

  15. ifiok umoeka says:

    My brother freegulf, I agree with majority of the time but this once I disagree.
    On one hand, this has nothing 2 do with France, its our weakness. In the 90s a Nigeria who could project power to sierra leone would ‘pursue peace’ with her small neibour why? The then HOS knew the truth about the state of his military and that fellow isn’t known 2 be always foolish! 2 decades later we are asked to go east, what we couldn’t do then when our military was better off! Haba, when our trip east escalates as it would, how do we sustain it? How do we protect and preserve our strategic interest off shore and inland? By threatening France with nationalizing elf et al! Think again. Where are our air defense assets, what of our anti ship assets? Can u remember how long its been since we had a reasonable ASW ops? We are not like Russia sir not by a mile!
    On the other hand, France is one power that is not afraid 2 get dirty in Africa! Just look around u!
    Friend, adventures are fun while it last especially if u don’t get lost or run into beasts u can’t handle! If we can’t handle BH alone now, what makes u think that we would in addition to Cameroun and France? Think about it and for once leave the emotions outside while u do!

    • igbi says:

      I am sorry, I respect your opinion, and I often agree with you, but on this one I disagree.
      Although I think a lot of what you said is reasonable to my thinking about the situation, all I disagree with is your conclusion. I think we should get our acts together, because if france had its way, Nigeria would be having a dictator for life like biya and he would be taking orders from france. And to answer your suestion france is not even capable of going to syria alone, france got defeated by algerian untrained civilians, france got defeated by vietnamese farmers, so no france can not fight Nigeria alone. ALthough I would feel more comfortable when we get more serious on security affairs.

    • freeegulf says:

      comrade ifiok, war is not a one dimensional affair. from a military perspective, u are correct. however, the military perspective alone does not deter war, or even advance its cause. it is not left alone to tanks, jets and gunboats.

      warfare an art, is a multi dimensional exercise. its not only your military that need muscles. your politiking, diplomacy, ECONOMY, and generally, your clout. this is what makes a comprehensive case for war!

      do u seriously believe in all honesty that France would fight Nigeria over Cameroon? things are not done that way. international politics is far deeper than that.
      we don’t run any military risk from invading our neighbours ( i m not advocating this, even tho i believe we should get bakassi peninsula back by any means necessary), provided the yanks re not going overboard in opposition. as for the European powers; Britain and France, they re not worth the explaining. they constitute minimal security risks.

      in fact, our biggest problem would be sanctions. if these two countries can get the EU to place sanctions on Nigeria, yes, that would surely bite. but as for military involvement, please cast it out of thy thoughts!!

      ok, lets say, hypothetically, we attack Cameroon ( in reality, we wouldn’t. as we would only be pursuing terrorists and destroying their rear bases/safe havens), what is the worse case scenario? France sends in the CDG and attack us? or the air armee deploys from bases in Cameroon and Gabon and launch air strikes on us?
      after the above two options/responses, what next? we go back to being sleepy dogs and french economic interest in Nigeria continues to remain in safe hands? even without the total-elfina factor, do u honestly think that this is the EndGame?

      other than military tactics and khaki generals, there are a whole bunch of people and factors that decides the prosecution of war, and its resultant consequences. there are far more to operational manoeuvres than simple rafale jets.

      anything short of the USA or NATO (and even with this, you should know its simply a trap: international capital at play), forget about a Nigerian conquest or enterprise.
      please, in your enthusiasm for war and strategy, do not forget the political and economic factors of war and how they affect and decide conflicts. even the politicians with neo colonial mentality in Paris knows this.

      a great man once said ‘war its a continuation of politiks by other means’. the catchphrase here is Politiks. there are too many angles and definition of this catchphrase and how it affects warfare.

      i m not in any way defending the current Nigerian system. it is poor, weak, myopic, and dysfunctional. but woe to he that decides to take advantage of the system and go for a frontal attack.

      i guess u misinterpret my Nigerian/Russian correlation. i was not referring to the military might of both nation. rather, the general frame of both societies. how they are viewed by others, and their general conducts and disappointments. look at the avoidable deaths during the first and second chechen war. even with the war with Georgia, the pentagon was surprise that Russia could lose a jet to Georgia and make silly errors in their prosecution of the war. these are the kind of signals others look at and tend to misjudge these countries.

      for a country like nigeria, the best way to destroy her is from the inside, and slowly! if you come head on, the sleepy giant would wake, and believe me, science and art of war wouldn’t accommodate the likely outcome.

  16. igbi says:

    I hope you guys, even the Cameroonian fans understand that Nigerians are not calling for a strike in Cameroon because they hate Cameroon or because they think Cameroon hates them, they are asking for a strike in cameroon because there is no other way to get rid of boko haram !
    Cameroon is ignoring international law and providing land to terrorists whose aim is to kill as many Nigerians as possible. Many times these terrorists have crossed the border and slit throats of Nigerians killed our soldiers and damage some of our local economies. This is no longer an insurgency, this qualifies as foreign agression. I can almost bet the boko haram is now mainly made of cameroonians. So please we can not avaoid going into cameroon if its dictator keeps acting like an imbecile.

  17. igbi says:

    OK, I think it might be good to point out that some among us commenting here are cameroonians.
    To those people, I want to say that we do not hate you and we do not think you are supporting boko haram willingly, but the killing of our people can not go on, I hope you understand that !
    Nigerians are not animals, Nigerians have right to live ! We are not advocating for a war against cameroon, all we wat is to strike those terrorists on your land who keep crossing the border to kill our people.

  18. freeegulf says:

    i understand our enthusiasm for weapons, hardware, tactics and materiel. for us buffs, serving, once served, ex service, arm chair, we all have to understand that war is not just about armaments and manpower.

    we cant simply compare number of troops, their training and tactics, the number of MBTs, SPH, jets, field howitzers, fighting ships, mortars and machine guns. a side by side compare and contrast exercise was what led to many great blunders in the past.

    our dialogue about these conflicts re always; ‘what if france invade, what can we do’, ‘should britain attack how will our military survive?’ .
    what we fail to give any serious limelight are the ‘IFs’ and ‘Should’. that ‘if’ and that ‘should’ are the Politiks here. there is a significant lack of detail in these two constructs. they are the barriers that need to be surmounted before the tanks, the warships, the troops strength would come into play. without dealing with this significant factor, the armaments and war materiel are nothing but further trouble for those prosecuting a war of aggression.

    war is just a continuation of politiks. people like saddam failed to understand this, and got duped into invading kuwait. the americans laid a trap for him and he fell right into it. he was confident the americans wouldn’t make a move because the US ambassador said it was ok and Washington has no problem with his plans. well he was fooled. same way he was fooled into invading iran 10years previously. why counting on the internal turmoil of iran, he forgot that an invasion by a foreign power does more to strengthen and legitimize a revolution or skaky regime than anything else. in the end, the ayatollahs welcomed the invasion and prosecuted it for 8 long years. it was their perfect foundation to solidify their govt and leadership.

    if he had sat down to look at the comprehensive picture, and not just whether he had the 5th largest tank forces in the world, 1.2M standing army, and bagdad being the most secure city in terms of air defence in the world, maybe, just maybe he would have handled his predicaments ( he had some legitimate concerns about kuwait and the sabotage of oil prices, to the detriment of the iraqi economy) differently. if he had looked at the balance of power in the middle east, the saudi clout, the israeli fears, and the imperial hegemony of the western powers, he would have been more cautious.

    we should ask ourselves, why did nigeria not invade apartheid south africa in the 70s when we had over a quarter of million man army! why did we not combine the personnel strength of nigeria, ethiopia, zaire, and the military and financial strength of egypt, libya and algeria. why. they all had fires in their belly. pan arab and pan africanism, all that non aligned talk. why did they not military liberate namibia, or send tanks and planes to liberate portuguese guinea (gowon did try to protect guinea conankry from portuguese counter border strikes) and zimbabwe. we did support these countries materially, but why didn’t we go straight for the jugular and send in ground troops and air force to pursue our foreign policy. of course we did not. there where several factors that inhibited that, before and after the apartheid govt tested atomic weapons.

    so much factors come into play before the generals and admirals are given the green light to start a war.

    the americans do not care whether a dictator, gook or bastard is in charge, their interest is the ruler has to be their gook, their dictator, and their bastard. they should own you, and there should be client relationship. but the moment you step out of line, or try to be independent in action (thoughts, maybe u can have a pass) then you have a massive problem on hand. it was what landed saddam and ghaddaffi in hot waters.

    for a dynamic nation like nigeria, it will take more than rafele jets, type 45 destroyers, and colonial ties to actually prosecute an aggressive war against. be it british or french. since these are the only sentimental european powers that simply cant let go of colonial mentality. if the americans weigh in with force, yes, its a different ball game. but without Washington, no NATO, no EU, no colonial power projections.

    l would mention this once again, the state of things is pathetic. we need to put our act together. we need to learn to hold our leaders accountable. our leaders need to be responsible and act with a sense of public service. our military has to be strengthened.
    lastly, the nations of west and central africa will have to see abuja as not just the capital of the FRN, but the seat of a continental power. if we don’t put our acts together, these nations will continue to wallow in strife, run to france, and the black man would never earn the respect he so much begs for. do not forget, 1 in 7 black person is a nigerian. without the influence and power of the state of israel, i bet the jews in brooklyn and the rest of new york would still have been regarded no better than the pre ’67 mentality.

    • Obix says:

      @Oga Freegulf, you nailed it. I can’t say more. We all should remember that no one is calling for an invasion of Cameroon. What is needed are preemptive precision strikes on BH bases in Cameroon and hot pursuit on fleeing terrorists into Cameroonian territory. Colombia attacked FARC bases in Ecuador andeven killed their seniour commanders in 2008. We need the political wisdom to have a back door dialogue first with France and surely the US (since they have officially labelled BH a terrorist group) , they in turn would dictate to Cameroon. The best scenario would be a prolonged coordinated operation by Nigeria, France and Cameroon from both sides of the border, this way BH wont have anywhere to run to and will find it almost impossible to fight a stretched battle line. My fear is that France won’t go for this since the prefer paying ransom to BH for the release of French hostages and Cameroon will be scared of possible reprisals from BH. The FG’s security council should think is this direction.

      • freeegulf says:

        good write up gen obix. like you said, a coordinated action between Nigeria and Cameroon would be the right of action. but obviously, a strong Nigeria isnt in the interest of france. our leaders lack proper vision and they would rather manage BH than go for the jugular. not bcos of fear of of the french. but bcos they are lazy, political profiteers, and would always prefer to go for the easiest means by throwing money at a problem, even if it wouldn’t solve anything.

  19. ifiok umoeka says:

    Good morning brothers, I hope u has a great christmas. May I start with my brother Igbi. Sir, u refer 2 events of the 50s and 60s but u don’t mention a single french action btw then and now, I guess u deliberately omitted them. I NOT A FRENCH FAN, IN FACT I PREFARE THE AMERICANS TO THEM AND I DONT PARTICULARLY LIKE AMERICA INTL POLITICS. Perhaps I should ask u why it is that from the beginning while the west was in a hurry 2 strike Libya, every one seems to be pussy footing on Syria!
    Finally, u do remember that we got here (advocating for a journey into Cameroun because we have not solve the BH problem at home. If we had the means, I AM OF THE OPINION THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOLVED THE BH DISEASE A LONG TIME AGO.

    • igbi says:

      The recent actions by the french military consist mostly of neo-colonialisme, they fight weak, very weak ex-colonies to impose their will upon them. And since Sarkozy, they follow the US everywhere and have been trying to push the US into their own wars (which is the sole reason why they follow the US everywhere). Their military budget is between 67 and 70 billion dollars a year. They have nuclear submarines. And if you look at algeria’s armed forces then you will notice that it was created for the purpose of dissuading france to come back to algeria. I think the current government doesn’t realize well enough that france is very interested in adding Nigeria to its club of ex-colonies.
      ( to the french spies reading this, don’t lock me up for treason, I only used data accessible on the internet). I think Nigeria should add some submarines to its fleet and should get serious with its air force and army. Because france “wouldn’t mind” taking control of Nigeria and its economy. It seems to me that in all this we have no choice, if we continue like this then our country will soon desintergrate (which has always been the will of france). France doesn’t want a country the size of Nigeria in west africa which it sees as its food basket, its dominion. So we have to equip our armed forces and also we have to do something about boko haram in cameroon.

  20. ifiok umoeka says:

    @ my brother Freegulf. U realize that I’ve never advocated we match France, rather its been about maintaining minimum deterrent! France will not invade Nigeria, but they can and will defeat any of our adventure in Cameroun if we do it alone without the necessary framework! U mention Gulf war 1, politics didn’t defeat Saddam, a lot of cruise missiles and smart bombs did and I remember the Iraqis being the invaders. So we advocate those actions, are u sure that we are judging the situation right? France has never failed 2 live up 2 her security commitments and can u honestly compare french intl politicking with ours. Haba my big bros!
    As for apartheid SA, do u honestly think that if we were geographically a frontline state we wouldn’t have been physically involved? We didn’t go south because we couldn’t go south period. If the Cubans were there and the Americans didn’t get physically involved, why would ours be different?
    Come 2 think of it, what’s the volume of our trade with France? How was it before and how is it now (I honestly don’t know and I’m asking in curiosity)
    Yes, the business of war is multifaceted, but pls can u read for me our score card under GEJ in the areas of diplomacy and politicking again? As for the economy, oga Beeg gave us a wonderful analysis that I’m still trying to figure out and hope it will filter down to benefit Nigerians across the spectrum otherwise I doesn’t count.
    Finally, as to ur question whether France will fight Nigeria over Cameroun my answer is that France will keep it commitments even if it means a fight with Nigeria because if they renege just once, their entire mystic will come crumbling down and there goes la french empire (oga Igbi, i could appreciate a little help here).
    Remember, I’m just a realist who wants the best for my country

  21. eniola says:

    Villages destroyed, civilians killed
    as troops chase Islamists –
    Witnesses
    on december 25, 2013 at 7:00 pm in
    news
    KANO (AFP) – A military offensive in
    northeast Nigeria that killed more than
    50 Islamist rebels has destroyed four
    villages and left corpses scattered in
    bushes, with some civilians among the
    dead, witnesses said Tuesday.
    The defence ministry has said the
    operation was launched in response to
    an attack Friday by Boko Haram
    insurgents on an army barracks in the
    town of Bama in Borno state, the
    epicentre of the Islamist conflict.
    Defence spokesman Chris Olukolade
    identified those killed as “terrorists.”
    Residents told AFP that an unknown
    number of civilians also lost their lives
    as the military bombarded the fleeing
    rebels. While they reported finding
    scores of charred bodies in the area,
    many were thought to be those of Boko
    Haram fighters.
    Area resident Karim Bunu told AFP the
    military onslaught “completely burnt
    down four villages,” specifically listing
    Awaram, Ali-Ali, Suwabara and
    Kashimri, all in Borno state.
    “Civilians from the affected villages,”
    were among those killed, he said.
    “We have never seen so much death,”
    added a tribal chief in the area, who
    asked that his name be withheld. “The
    bushes are littered with decomposing
    bodies.”
    Bunu, the local chief and other
    residents said much of the destruction
    was caused by bombs dropped by
    fighter jets. Locals are collecting bodies
    and digging graves for those killed,
    residents added.
    In a Monday statement on the
    operation, Olukolade said that “a good
    number of the insurgents escaped with
    bullet wounds while some have been
    arrested. Over 50 of them died in the
    course of exchange of fire with ground
    troops.”
    Fifteen soldiers were killed during the
    Boko Haram raid on the barracks and
    “during the pursuit” of the insurgents,
    according to Olukolade.
    The defence spokesman gave no
    indication that the military response
    caused large-scale property destruction
    or cost civilian lives.
    Nigeria’s military has been accused of
    using scorched-earth tactics in
    campaigns against Boko Haram and
    not distinguishing between civilian and
    insurgent targets. Such accusations
    have however been typically denied.
    According to multiple witness accounts,
    Boko Haram stormed the barracks
    before sunrise on Friday, spraying it
    with gunfire before torching the
    compound. There were reports that
    soldiers as well as wives and children
    were abducted in the raid.
    The army said the Islamists had tried to
    escape across the border with
    Cameroon but were pursued through
    the weekend by ground troops with the
    support of fighter jets deployed from
    an air force base in Borno’s capital
    Maiduguri, some 60 kilometres (37
    miles) away.
    Borno and two neighbouring states
    were placed under a state of
    emergency in May, giving the military
    added powers in their bid to crush Boko
    Haram’s four-year uprising which has
    killed thousands.
    The conflict has affected various parts
    of the north and centre of Nigeria, but
    the northeast has been the hit hardest,
    including communities near Bama,
    which has emerged as a hotspot in the
    insurgency.
    Boko Haram has said it wants to create
    an Islamic state in Nigeria’s mainly
    Muslim north. The southern half of the
    country is mostly Christian.
    http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/12/villages-destroyed-civilians-killed-troupe-chase-islamists-witnesses/

  22. eniola says:

    1st dey said witness mentiond abbaham or wat did dey cal it, nw dey re mentioning another 4 villas. Can dis AFP b taken serious?

  23. ifiok umoeka says:

    Agreed

  24. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8TlqvNxyZ4 Can u guys please help deduce what the purpose of this Demo was? I see something very here…. Nigeria Army?

  25. peccavi says:

    On Cameroun, next one should cover options for change, however in recent days I notice things seem to be slowly happening

    Pluie ne tombe pas sur un toit seul (Rain does not fall on one roof alone): Nigeria, Cameroun and the Central African Republic. Part 1

    Cameroun bordering west and central Africa has been an island of stability for the 53 years of its independence. Ruled by Paul Biya since 1982, it has seen none of the internal strife, civil or conventional wars that its neighbours; Nigeria, Chad or Central African Republic (CAR) etc have come to face.
    Other than low level border disputes with Nigeria, which saw Cameroun militarily stymied but ultimately victorious through the ICJ, there has been very little need for Cameroun’s 35,300 man military to trouble itself.
    This commentator would suggest that this has changed, not necessarily for reasons within Cameroun’s control but for reasons that it would do very well to try and control.
    Cameroun exists in a veritably chaotic neighbourhood. To the south Congo Brazzaville, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon, Nigeria to the west and Chad to the Northeast and CAR to the North East. It has a neighbour that is significantly stronger than it but with serious internal problems (Nigeria) and others that are extremely weak with limited state control over their territory and severe internal problems (CAR, Chad, Equatorial Guinea, Congo Brazzaville).
    Cameroun’s Armed Forces:
    Cameroun’s Armed Forces consist of an Army, Navy and Air Force with a militarised Gendarmerie. The country is divided into 3 Joint Military Regions (Regions Militaires InterArmees (RMIA)) which are further subdivided into Land Military Sectors (Secteurs Militaires Terrestres (SMT)). The Gendarmerie are organised into Regions (Regions de Gendarmerie) matching those of the military with Gendarmerie Legions (Legions de Gendarmerie) matching the military sectors
    Regions Provinces Sectors Sector HQ Airforce Bordering
    RMIA1
    (HQ in Yaounde) Centre SMT1 Yaounde Yaounde –
    East (Est) SMT8 Bertoua CAR (East)
    Congo Brazzaville (South)
    South (Sud) SMT7 Ebolowa Equatorial Guinea (South)
    Gabon (South)
    RMIA2
    (HQ in Douala) Shore (Littoral) SMT2 Douala Douala Atlantic Ocean
    North West (Nord Ouest) SMT6 Bamenda Bamenda Nigeria (West)
    West (Ouest) SMT9 Bafoussam Koutaba –
    South West (Sud Ouest) SMT10 Buea Nigeria (West)
    Atlantic Ocean (South)
    RMIA3
    (HQ in Garoua) North (Nord) SMT3 Garoua Garoua Nigeria (West)
    Chad (East)
    CAR (East)
    Far North (Extreme Nord) SMT4 Maroua Nigeria (West)
    Chad (East)
    Adamaoua (Adamawa) SMT5 Ngaoundere Nigeria (West)
    CAR (East)

    Army (Armee de Terre du Cameroun): the 23,000 man Army consists of the following:
    Corps Unit Quantity
    Infantry Battalion 11
    Reconnaissance (Armoured Cars) Battalion 1
    Artillery Battalion 1
    Anti Aircraft Battalion 1
    Commando Battalion 1
    Engineers and Support Battalion 3
    Presidential Guard Battalion 1
    Rapid Intervention Brigade Battalion 3

    The Army has rocket and gun artillery, no main battle tanks but AFVs, APCs, IFVs and recce vehicles.
    Cameroun Air Force (Armee de l’Air du Cameroun): has 1800 personnel with a modest inventory of combat and transport. Combat aircraft are 5 converted Impala Mk1 and Mk2 trainers and 4 Alpha jets which have been grounded since a crash in 2011; the 6 CM-170 Magister training aircraft have been grounded as well. Cameroun has 3 Mi-24 and has signed an agreement with Russia for a further undisclosed number, however most transport helicopters ( 5 out of 9 are serviceable) and transport planes (16) are grounded. Structurally it has a good balance of aircraft and helicopters for a small force mainly focussed on internal security however; they are poorly maintained and not used. There are 5 Air Force bases in Garoua (officer and pilot training and attack and training), Koutaba (training for airmen and base of Battalion des Troupes Aeroportees (BTAP)), Yaounde (helicopter and liaison), Douala (logistics and tactical transport) and Bamenda (base of Fusiliers Commando de l’Air (BAFUSCO AIR)). Of these Garaou is the most modern and capable of taking large aircraft.
    Navy (Marine Nationale Republique): has strength of 1,500 personnel with major bases in Douala, Kribi and Limbe. It has approximately 2 patrol vessels, 3 coastal patrol vessels, about 30 riverine craft, 2 missile boats and 2 landing craft
    Cameroun’s Security imperatives:
    The main effort of the Camerounian armed forces is defending the regime and Cameroun’s economic interests. The best equipped and most capable forces are based around Yaounde and under direct command of the President. The navy is structured to police Cameroun’s coast line and the air force equipped with converted ground trainers for ground attack and transport aircraft for rapid reinforcement. Majority of the armed forces is poorly equipped and trained.
    Cameroun’s biggest external threat has been limited conflict with Nigeria over the Bakassi Peninsula; they have very limited experience in all types of operations. Camerounian forces had French Foreign Legion advisers during the Bakassi confrontation and recorded isolated successes in low level skirmishes with Nigeria but were repeatedly defeated in set piece encounters. Camerounian forces as a whole have virtually no experience of modern conventional or asymmetric operations, in hostile internal or peace support environments. The best trained and equipped forces are the Presidential Guard and the Battalion d’Intervention Rapide (BIR) both commanded by former Israeli Colonel Avi Sivan until his death in 2010. However the Presidential Guard has had recent discipline problems and BIR that was specifically set up in 1999 to deal with armed bandits, is also now tasked with securing Bakassi and the CAR border. Of all Camerounian units the BIR is the best trained, equipped and experienced having successfully dealt with bandits in the North and is currently based in Bakassi and the East.
    Growing Threats to Cameroun
    Northern Cameroun: the 3 northern Regions of Extreme Nord, Nord and Adamaoua are fragile and insecure with porous borders that allow in armed bands from Chad, CAR and Nigeria. They suffer from extreme desertification, disease, deep poverty, political disenchantment and disillusionment, flooding, malnutrition, refugees from Chad, CAR and Nigeria, lower school attendance, child marriages, underequipped schools and hospitals. All these are fodder for the roving bands of Islamist preachers and now insurgents to propagate Islamic fundamentalism.
    Boko Haram originated in Borno State (which borders the Extreme Nord Region), which has the largest concentration of Kanuri’s in the Lake Chad Basin. The Kanuri’s extend in various ethno linguistic groups from Nigeria to Chad to Niger to Cameroun. The porous borders and undeveloped nature of the Region permit Boko Haram to use Northern Cameroun as a rest, recuperation, rearming, training and staging area.
    This in itself would not present Cameroun with an immediate security problem if Boko Haram and Ansaru solely focused on Nigeria but these groups have rather rudely taken to using Northern Cameroun to raise funds via tax collection and hostage taking, first a French family (the Moulin-Fourniers) were taken in Waza National Park in February 2012 and then a French priest (Father Georges Vandenbeusch).
    The Regions have seen an upsurge in elephant poaching in the Waza and Bouba Njidda Game reserves, highway robbery and banditry, attacks on churches and as their safe areas in Nigeria become more and more hostile direct attacks on Nigerian targets from Cameroun. The BIR were deployed again to the region to deal with poaching in 2012 and in 2013 increased banditry. In light of recent attacks a curfew has been imposed on departments bordering Nigeria.
    Eastern Cameroun: the Central African Republic shares a 797 km border with Est, Adamaoua and Nord Regions in Cameroun, the current round of instability in this country began in January 2013 when a ceasefire between the government of Francois Bozize and a loose coalition of rebel groups known as Seleka broke down, the rebels advanced ignoring the red line set down by Central African community FOMAC troops and defeated a South African National Defence Force company that bravely but inadvisably tried to stop them.
    Chadian and Sudanese Muslim bandits were a significant part of the Seleka coalition that took power and being unable or unwilling to join the CAR military and unwilling to disarm they took to wanton banditry, provoking the formation of Christian Anti Balaka militias who not only defended their homes but attacked their Muslim neighbours. The resultant turmoil led to an intervention by France and the AU which was preceded by an increase in banditry and cross border attacks on Cameroun’s Nord, Adamaoua and Est Regions.
    Attacks upon border posts, seizure of hostages, grenade attacks in Garoua and more have prompted a much more proactive response from Cameroun, with the activation of an Army Brigade tasked with securing the Congolese/ CAR border in Est Region with its HQ at Ebolowa, consisting of the 11th Battalion, an Air Force Battalion and 12th Motorized Battalion at Bertoua and 13th Infantry Battalion at Yokadouma and Leta Bir. There are Company locations in Nkentzou, Moloundou, Gbiti, Toktoyo, Oundjiki, Gari, Gombo, Kette, Mobal and other places.
    A Gendarmerie unit has also been deployed with the HQ and 2 Squadrons in Bertoua, one in Abong-Mbang, one in Yokadouma and another in Garoua Boulai. The Gendemarie are tasked with securing the lives and property of the populace. The BIR have also been deployed to secure the border acting as mobile shock troops used to react to attacks and incidents
    Insecurity in Northern and Eastern Cameroun, Southern Chad and Western and Northern CAR, have a symbiotic nature. CAR being landlocked with no railways depends on the roads for almost all consumer goods and in the north has been repeatedly plagued by highway robbers (known as coupeurs de routes or Zaraguina), many of whom are Fulani’s, Chadian rebels or army deserters. They attack the local populace who are barely above subsistence level themselves, engaging in banditry, poaching, cattle theft and kidnap for ransom, demanding up to 2 million CFA Francs each from these extremely poor people. The resultant cost of raising the ransom drives poor people even further into destitution sometimes leaving them no option than to become bandits themselves to support their families. When fighting flares up in Chad, there is increase banditry in CAR and Cameroun due to deserters and retreating rebels. When there are anti Zaraguina operations in Cameroun they move to CAR, when there is civil war or fighting in CAR they move to Cameroun. When the Zaraguina are unable to rob they turn to poaching. Possibly due to the long standing nature of this problem Cameroun takes the threat from CAR more seriously than that from Boko Haram. Cameroun has also signed several treaties with Chad and Car covering security and wildlife protection and purchased microlights to aid the anti poaching effort.
    Why is Cameroun so attractive to criminals and insurgents?
    Manpower: various rebel groups from Seleka, Chadian rebels, deserters and mercenaries, Boko Haram, defeated Bozize supporters, Fulani nomads, cattle thieves, smugglers, coupeurs de routes/ Zaraguina, poachers from Sudan and Chad. All of these armed, trained, disaffected men make ideal recruits for Boko Haram or Seleka, notwithstanding thousands of unemployed young men interested in jihad, adventure or just getting something to eat or do.
    Weapons: The removal of Ghaddafi in 2011 released a lot of weapons into the Sahel. Most now go to Syria and Egypt/ Gaza but a huge proportion were sold to groups who went to Northern Mali, Niger and Chad. The Syrian demand and Gulf money means that most of the best weapon systems are leaving the continent however, there are already established arms markets and networks from Chad to Niger to Sudan that meet in Northern Cameroun, without the surveillance that established routes in Southern Libya or Niger are under. A lot of groups have rearmed using this bonanza meaning there is a surplus of older weapons and technical’s as well
    Funds: foreign hostages can generate huge payoffs but these are few and far between, alot more money can be made by taxing or protecting poachers, fuel and goods smugglers, legitimate traders, money changers, cattle raiders and drug smugglers, or doing these activities themselves. Other forms of crime like kidnap for ransom, highway robbery, raiding villages, and protection rackets provide a steady source of funds for sustenance aided by the paucity of police and army in the North.
    Ethnolinguistic links: the old Adamawa Emirate straddles Northern Nigeria and Mid Cameroun, with cities such as Yola and Garoua having ancient links going back to the 19th century only divided by the colonial efforts of the Germans, French and finally British. Likewise the Kanem-Bornu Empire straddles Nigeria, Cameroun, Niger and Chad, with Kanuri and its variants spoken across the Lake Chad Basin. These linguistic, family and cultural ties give insurgents valuable protection, local knowledge and a common narrative when recruiting or proselytising. Thus a pan Islamic message can sometimes be subsumed or combined with a Kanuri or Adamawa revivalist message. Actions of the security forces can be described in terms of the corruption of the Sokoto Caliphate or the depredations of the heathen colonialist, with the jihad being described as a continuation of Usman dan Fodio’s jihad against the unbelievers. These links extend into the cultural, political and economic life of this area and are fundamental to shaping the problem
    Islamic culture: in the eyes of many adherents traditional Islamic leaders in Nigeria are corrupt and tainted and in Cameroun Islamic leaders have been deliberately suborned to secular authority leaving a significant ‘belief’ gap that is generally filled by radical elements, including wandering Wahabbi preachers from Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Much like the early encroachment of AQIM in Northern Mali there have been reports of brand new mosques built in otherwise destitute villages. There is also a history of Islamic revivalism and mahdism, the 19th century Sudanese Mahdiyya Caliphate had close links to several lamidates (sub states) in the Adamawa Emirate as well as the Bornu-Kanem Empire. All these movements came out of rebellion against the conservative traditional Islamic governments of the time, rejecting modern Islamic interpretations and the old Islamic administrations as well as fighting foreign powers. This theme is still prevalent today amongst hopeless peoples looking for a solution to seemingly intractable problems. Combined with a lack structured formalised Islamic training and poverty and disillusionment Islamic fundamentalism has become an extremely powerful voice.
    Covenant of Security: this school of Islamic thought deems that one does not attack a country that provides sanctuary and allows Muslims to practice and live in peace. There is no evidence that this is what is in effect in Cameroun however Christian Paul Biya a few years after replacing a Northern Muslim Ahamadou Ahidjo decided he had evidence of a coup plot, permanently exiling Ahidjo and his family and arresting several of his supporters. It can only be presumed that the narrative was successfully framed in a purely political context not tribal or religious as Mohammed Marwa left Cameroun to begin the revivalist Maitatsine movement in Kano not Yaounde. There have been no overt claimed attacks in Cameroun (except in Amchide) nor have wealthy or prominent Camerounians or businesses been targeted only foreigners, all of whom are claimed explicitly by Nigerian groups, held in Nigeria and justified as reactions to French and not Camerounian actions.
    Attacks have been launched from Cameroun repeatedly, some virtually straight from Cameroun, yet there have been no attacks on posts or officials like Seleka repeatedly perpetrates
    Safe passage: the 3 Northern Regions in Cameroun permit Boko Haram to transit from Nigeria to CAR, Chad or Niger where they can purchase arms, train and refit in peace. Established transit routes for livestock, people, goods and fuel allow men and materiel to be transported often in plain sight.
    Conclusion: the attractiveness of Cameroun to criminals and insurgent groups is clear. The Camerounian response has differed greatly from East to North however despite this response the situation has not been contained, even with the direct intervention of France. Problems in CAR always have an impact on Cameroun and unlike previous crisis; this does not involve a distinct rebel group or coalition against the CAR government but a patchwork of uncoordinated groups who in essence have very little motivation beyond survival, enrichment or self defence. Even if the situation in CAR is calmed the Zaraguina and mercenaries need to go somewhere and the pickings are richer in Cameroun. This is a security dilemma in itself but combined with the insurgency in Northern Nigeria which has been pushed into Cameroun, it is clear that Cameroun faces a 2 front crisis that it is not resourced or equipped to deal with.
    For Boko Haram and Ansaru, Northern Cameroun presents them with the best of all worlds. Southern Chad already has a plethora of groups operating and a fairly aggressive and capable army and other than IDP’s no population they can prey off. Southern Niger has the longest border with Nigeria and represents a viable plan B however the Nigeriens have a very robust counter insurgency policy, with French special forces and US drones on hand as well as a much more dispersed population they would be much more exposed and would need to develop links and networks with groups that are already on the French, US, Nigerien, Libyan, Malian, Mauritanian and Algerian radars.
    Northern Cameroun allows Boko Haram and Ansaru to mount operations against Nigeria, maintain relevance and sustain themselves as independent movements. Thus Extreme Nord, Nord and Adamaoua Regions represent Vital Ground to Boko Haram and Ansaru.
    In the next instalment we will discuss options for Nigeria and Cameroun.

    http://peccaviconsulting.wordpress.com/2013/12/26/pluie-ne-tombe-pas-sur-un-toit-seul-rain-does-not-fall-on-one-roof-alone-nigeria-cameroun-and-the-central-african-republic-part-1/

  26. Solorex says:

    Confrontation with either Camerooun or France is not a good way to go. Unilateral airstrikes within Cameroonian territory is definitely not advisable (you have a detachment of French army there, what if they shoot down an aircraft with MANPAD to show the world?), there is no telling how much it can escalate and what can result. Even if we strike deep into our neighbor’s territory and cross the border with ground troops to pursue Boko haram; France will most likely not invade Nigeria with ground troops(that will be too much task and there is no telling what the results could be even to them), they will simply decimate NAF quickly , flush out the boys with precision strikes, probably mount a sea blockade( strangle our dear oil export based economy),tamper with our foreign savings and international reputation via NATO,UN et all and force a favorable truce; if this become fruitless or deemed too complicated they will simply encourage regime change to a more understanding one( bear in mind that we are not a country whose citizenry would not consider that). It is true that military confrontation with Nigeria will push up oil prices and put French companies at risk and stir up PAN African sentiment-but politics at home( in France) and the thought of losing African influence will force a commensurate counter action . It is probably going to be a loss for everybody (Boko Haram, Cameroun, Nigeria and France)

    The Solutions are straight forward and not complicated. A tidy Solution will be to try as much as possible to solve the problem within our territory and employ neighboring countries with incentives in a friendly manner to deal with those outside our territory.
    There is already a joint border patrol agreement in place with 4×4, with permission to cross borders as expedient. We need to strengthen this massively with APCs and armed helicopter patrols ( leaving and returning to Nigeria daily) We need more barracks, more armed border posts, more military patrols ( hundreds of Cobras),better response time. For hundreds of militant to travel in dozens of vehicles for over 3 hours to their target without been engaged simply implies that there are no patrols at all.

    Finally for cross border aspect, we have to see beyond the bitterness of ICJ handing Cameroun Bakasi, we need to be nice and employ the influence of France ( Even France really does not want any escalation or any problem with Africa largest economy). We have to be willing to help shore up the weak capacity of Cameroonian military; we need to bring good things to the table like hybrid strike force stationed in Cameroun under French/Cameroonian control. It is not going to be easy, but we have messed up big time by our very slow reaction time to this issue for years and now we need to learn to be nice. Else we might just get more than we bargain for.

    • freeegulf says:

      oga solorex, abeg take am easy.u are given the french too much undue credit. haba!! decimate our NAF, mount sea blockade. kai! is that how u pple really weigh nigeria. please, its not as bad as you think.
      france directly attack nigeria. not even in the dream world!!! pure fantasy.
      even a weakened nigeria during the NCW, was buying arms from the same france that was supporting biafra. more french weapons where getting to lagos than reaching the rebel air strip.

      once again, nigeria is not a banana republic or some tiny ex colony like CIV, and the likes that some french troops, planes, and ships can intimidate. the thought of military confrontation between these two countries are next to nigh. in fact, there is a far more possibility of britain attacking us (impossible also) than france. these ‘ifs’ and ‘should’ will all remain in the sphere of hypothesis. they are incapable of such. NATO and the USA is another matter though. and when such does happen, then we should realize the bloody hand of international finance and banking cartel with the predatory game of speculation at play.

  27. freeegulf says:

    comrade ifiok, we all generally want whats best for the military and our nation. and i m in no way defending the status quo. my brief is that, even with this present appalling state, the country is not as vulnerable to France as u think.

    firstly, regarding the gulf war, no, saddam did not lose becos of cruise missiles and smart bombs. not at all! saddam lost bcos of POLITIKS. you have to give a proper consideration to this significant part of conflict.
    the fact that the USA is powerful has never been disputed. but the crux, is how do you make it impossible for them to attack you? this is Deterrence. however, deterrence is not only weapons war materiel, no. in fact, the use of weapons means failure of policies.

    lets use the state of Israel as an illustration. we all know how small and how powerful, militarily, the country is. but can Israel fight the united states? can this powerful country match the USA in warfare. of course not. then we should ask, is it possible for the united states to attack and invade this tiny state? the answer is a very big NO.
    their influence in the USA, the jewish lobby, the influence of american jews, all these makes it absolutely impossible for the USA to attack Israel. this is POLITIK that i m referring to. they have other suitable ways to curb america rather than going head to head with them in an armed conflict. THIS WAS WHERE SADDAM FAILED. he failed in politiking. and we know that war itself is just politiks by other means. its not a means on its on. no no. its part of a deterrence. but there are other deterrence at play even before considering war. that deterrence is what keeps France away from a direct attack. of course, it would have been lovely to for us to have Type 214 sub and SU-35s, but their absence does not in anyway gives France an impunity to attack this country.

    secondly, on the issue of apartheid SA, we couldn’t send in troops bcos there where other factors mitigating this action. 1, our economy. 2, endgame of this action. 3, the state of play; did the country present an existential threat to us. was it a franco prussia struggle? or a Nazi Bolshevik existential struggle? 4, how would our direct intervention distort the balance of power and where would it leave us? 5, what will be the outcome considering the fog of war and the conflict degenerating into total colossal war between the federal republic of Nigeria and the apartheid state? these and many more where the Politiks at play that kept black Africa from overrunning the racist apartheid state. with a few more added points (such as corruption, dishonesty, betrayal, pan arab myth, lack of integrity, and many more dishonorable arab behaviors) we can see this currently at play in the middle east, that is why a small state like Israel can easily control the sea of arabs stretching from the north African state of Egypt to the gulf. unfortunately for the Palestinians, their cause is a lost one. well, that is a discussion for another day.

    thirdly, wrt the volume of trade between Nigeria and France, you should ask our marshal, he would present accurate data on our balance of trade with France.

    lastly, no one is calling for an invasion, i think i was calling out oga solorex dove tactics. it is too weak and would in the long run undermine us. even hardliner like oga igbi is not calling for a direct invasion.

    waiting for french approval is not the solution. we are neither an ex french colony nor are we currently in the sphere of influence of France and its french afrique policy. although, the french would very much like to have us under their control. if the Americans cant control us, the french and the British are too insignificant to succeed there.

    Nigeria has to set up military bases and FOBs close the the borders with Cameroon and Chad. and like oga jimmy suggested, we could have an open line with the Cameroonians. they can have liaison officers in 7 div and be kept abreast of cross border attacks and pursuits.

    the terrs must be continually pressed until they become nothing more than bandits than can be easily contained by the Nigerian police force. their safe havens in Cameroon must be completely annihilated. and they have be squeezed by the armed forces whether they relocate from Nigeria to Cameroon, or from Cameroon to chad.

    gen sani abacha deployed a brigade in bakassi peninsula. the french did nada! they couldn’t.

    Cameroon begged them to deploy their forces. they couldn’t. during those tense days, they where conducting joint exercise with Benin republic. they had to send messages to Abuja to clarify the situation. there would have been a drastic response from gen abacha, had Paris not immediately state their ‘open’ intentions.

    again in ’96 gen sani abacha threatened to invade benin, due to habouring of opposition figures by this tiny state. the french could only make noise. why didn’t they deploy troops from senegal and the CIV there where french bases there designed for stopping coups and protecting their tin pot assets cum dictators like boigny and eyadema.
    the only reason the then C-In-C backed down was bcos of american pressure. and in the end that is all that matters. if the Americans don’t bat an eyelid, no problem. you should only sweat if the Americans are going to say No. as for the french and British, its all sentimentality.

  28. peccavi says:

    Oga Freegulf: Saddam Hussein lost because his army was comprehensively defeated. The outcome of that conflict was military. The Coalition could have gone to Baghdad if it wanted, he did not negotiate an end, he was given terms. However I somehow get the point you are making.
    I am not advocating invading Cameroun, the crux of the write up is that Cameroun (through no particular fault of their own) is now facing an existential threat that they do not have the capacity to deal with if they ignore it.
    Invading Cameroun or even unilateral airstrikes on Cameroun is a stupid idea and also fairly impossible.
    We do not have enough troops to adequately garrison Brono and yet people think we can generate the forces to enter a sovereign country, defeat or deter their armed forces, destroy our enemies, protect our supply lines and withdraw? Or stay and hold the ground? With or without France for any incursion to make sense and actually catch the enemy it would have to be a multi division effort.
    Cameroun has no airforce to contest us, and their AA capability is round the capital, so our air craft would be in a ground attack role which is lucky as we have limited air suyperiority capability. To actually destroy the enemy bases we’d need to assault from the air in order to maintain surprise. Thus we’d need to land at least a company (preferably a battalion) deep in enemy territory to assault and hold the enemy camp while a ground element rushes to meet them and reinforce. So we need helicopters to lift and then support with ammo, cas evac etc. We don’t no where the bases are so artillery might be out of range so fire support will be mortars carried by the air assault unit and attack helicopters. How many helis do we have? How many men can they carry at a time? Once the first wave lands surprise is lost and they need to launch the attack, so the plan needs to take that into account. What if one is shot down or damaged? Do we have reserves to continue the plan or evacuate the boys?
    The ground element would need to get to the target area quickly, there would need to be enough forces to secure the route, fight off any Camerounian interference. In northern Cameroun the Regular Army is mainly geared up to protect the roads from bandits, it is not on a war footing and vehicles are poorly maintained. They would be hard pressed to maintain strong resistance, however in the north there are at least 2 companys of BIR, well trained and well equipped professionals, they would put up a good fight,however they are lightly armed and would be defeated by a mechanised column, however they would cause delay and could hold up the column.
    To prevent this you would need at least 3 columns and each column needs to protect its rear and have enough strength to fight of Camerounian forces and then get to the enemy bases and support the vanguard unit..
    The most important question of course is where is the enemy? Where are their camps? To find that we’d need aerial surveillance, which will also map the route, identify Camerounian positions etc, we’d need SF teams on the ground, we’d need spies. Then we need to concentrate the troops on the border. Alll of the above activity will alert the Camerounians to what is going on allowing them to either mass troops to resist or call Papa France to save them.
    An unilaterlal incursion will not work.
    So maybe air strikes.
    Again air strikes need a target, we need to know that what we are bombing are not farmers, villagers, cattle herders or even just smugglers or bandits. We need to ensure our combat power is used against the enemy. For that again we need aerial surveillance but most importantly SF on the ground. Does Nigeria have that level of long range recce capability?.

    then there is the diplomatic. Cameroun will not allow unilateral action on its territory, it will cry to France, the AU and UN, we will be found at fault, no country will accept the precedent of a neighbouring state sending troops at will into their territory. The UN will demand we withdraw or we will be sanctioned. We will have to withdraw, or else take the sanctions and then we have no way to pay for this operation. All the time our forces are in Cameroun either fighting the Camerounians or being harassed by Boko Haram, Seleka and every man and his dog.

    I have not even factored France in as that one is too complicated to put down, although I believe we can neutralise France they are unpredictable and with their air assets can wreak havoc on our boys.

    Don’t get me wrong the options I am looking at involve Nigerian forces going into Cameroun but it needs to be done very carefully, which is why it is important that Cameroun is made to understand the magnitude of the threat to their country and their government

  29. freeegulf says:

    gen peccavi, saddam lost bcos he did not understand the dance pattern in the middle east like sadat or even arik. if he did, the conflict would not have led to air strikes or cruise missiles or war. . that is my point. there are lots of factors that come into place before warfare. these factors contribute in the resolution of the conflict, whether through war or diplomacy.

    you should ask the question, who gained from the iraq iran 8 years war? why did the super powers prefer to sustain the warring parties without given each a decisive advantage to overwhelm the other?
    who benefited the most from the destruction of saddam’s military might? what role did the sunni shia cleavage play in both persian gulf wars? how did some certain pro israeli americans get bush to commit to operation iraqi freedom? which other power/bloc is left to confront the israelis? and how are the israelis influencing the US congress to place more sanctions on iran even when the new iranian regime is beginning to ‘unclench’ its fist?
    a good answer to the above questions would explain the meaning of war and its rightful place in politiking.

    as for cameroun. i m not calling for rash decisions or invasion. will expatiate more on the camerounian angle later.

    • peccavi says:

      Like I said, I get your point that war is only one of many tools available to a nation in order to get its way and that victory can be determined beyond the battlefield, case in point the Arab Israeli 1973 war (Ramadan/ Yom Kippur depending on which side you ask). The Egyptians were eventually quite clearly defeated, with the Israelis across the canal cutting off an entire army but simply from the psychological standpoint of having initially defeated Israel and the super powers being unwilling to risk further war, they were able to leverage that defeat into an honourable (and profitable peace).
      As per who benefited from the Iran/ Iraq war definitely not the Iraqi or Iranian people, I do not subscribe to it all being a superpower conspiracy. It was solely down to the megalomania and hubris of Saddam. He started the war and then when he started losing tried to end it, but the Iranians refused and fought until the use of chemical weapons and casualties forced them to a ceasefire.
      The Sunni/ Shia question is less pertinent than the Arab/ Persian question, which brings me to the answer the biggest beneficiaries of that war were the Arab Gulf states. The crisis pushed up the price of oil, the attacks on Iranian and Irai oil infrastructure meant they were the main suppliers. They did not even have to deploy their navies to protect shipping the Western allies did it. The Shia Persian regicidal Islamic revolutionaries were kept in check, thye banrolled Saddam throughout the period, through a combination of loans and grants and yet when the war was over still called in the loans. Again nobody asked Saddam to believe his own nonsense and invade Kuwait and more importantly to believe that the coalition would put half a million men in the desert and not use them.
      Saddam was a good administrator, was able to use murder and terror to effectively control his country, but internationally everything he did was wrong. He thought like an Iraqi feudal peasant which is fine if you are dealing with fellow Iraqis but on the world stage he was a mess

      • freeegulf says:

        gen peccavi, i agree with most of what you said, with a slight variation to the cameroun question.
        what if cameroun is unwilling to take this bold cooperative step? yes, they did hit a BH group element. but what if they refuse to push further? how are we going to get over this joint command structure? especially when BH realize what a wonderful haven cameroun presents to them. with the chadian marauders, a joint multinational force was established. who knows if the camerounians are prepared to rock the BH boat yet.
        to annihilate BH, irrespective of camerounian agreement or not, we still have to show some will power first. it is the most important factor. no will power, no eradication, no incursion, no reforms, no development, and definitely no new toys for the military.

        as for the iran iraq war, i m neither a conspiracy theorist nor do i really have much fanfares for arabs. however, we all know that saddam got the nudge from Washington and was receiving satellite recon and intel from the USA. meanwhile, the soviets where also providing weapons to him and even using the conflict as a base to test state of the art weaponry.

        did they ask him to invade? no. but where they aware of his plans? yes. did they encourage him? yes. and with lots and lots of goodies.
        in the same twist, they where also indirectly providing some details for the iranians so they don’t lose significantly. saddam was not their boy, and they always have issues with independent minded leaders. its all imperial interest. irrespective of the skin colour, race, country, whether japan or germany, china or russia, the americans want to remain on top and will try to shunt any growing competition. that’s empire for you.

        as an administrator, yes, saddam was excellent. he embraced Stalinist methods to the core. as such, brutality and development went hand in hand.

        those gulf arabs, the so called moderate, would prefer the status quo bcos if u line up a jew, a christian, and an iranian shia, they will definitely shoot the Persian first!
        such is the state of play, and these factors are always tilting the region from one spectrum to the other.

  30. freeegulf says:

    we all seem to be comparing a nigerian offensive against BH in cameroun with the cross border operations carried out by the defunct states of rhodesia in zambia and apartheid SA in angola.
    we are not hostile towards cameroun re we? neither are we on a war footing with them. it was this same cameroun that went out of their way to wipe out a strong BH element in their territory.

    incursions into cameroun by the nigerian armed forces wouldn’t be a knee jerk reaction. remember how buhari 3div cleared out chadian marauders and recovered our islands (plus extras) from chad? even this would be a far more smooth situation because we would be pouring in political and diplomatic goodwill before any decisive action. now, that does not rule out immediate pursuit across the border, nor air strikes deep in cameroun. and if such does occur, france would first want to get a nigerian military cooperation than opposition or direct confrontation.

    like i said previously, our military only react to situations. never pro active. so the likelihood of a cross border adventure is far and thin. it wouldn’t even be decisive, bcos the will power to properly enforce the likely outcome isn’t there. when taylor’s NPLF was ravaging LBR, how many times did we occupy ivory coast? when sam bockarie was laying waste to SRL, did we invade burkina faso? it tells a lot about our seriousness to conflict resolutions. like oga doziex mentioned we are not a traditional martial nation. if given the chance, we would prefer to throw money at it. now compare our methods and solutions to that of a more aggressive country like ethiopia or even more visionary ones like rwanda and uganda.

    the best solution is to equip the boys with at least the minimum to sustain the fight against BH. the politicians are not interested in annihilating them. they only want to contain them. until we change and attitude, there wouldn’t be a neutralization of these miscreants. maybe like pakistan, until these jihardists threaten the fed capital, before we would wake up and pursue them to the ends of the earth, including their sponsors.

    • peccavi says:

      The Rhodesian model is apt with variations.Rhodesia was dealing with very weak nations who didn’t want or need the wahala. We cannot get away with things like that. It needs to be a joint op, with a unified command element commanded by a Nigerian general, with a Camerounian deputy, a combined battlegroup that operates in the northern Regions of Cameroun

      • freeegulf says:

        obviously we are not going to do same as rhodesia. we dont even have the necessary seriousness to formulate such policies.
        they will probably establish a joint command and starve them of operational vehicles, funding, aircraft, and intelligence. in the end, this issue will continued to be ‘managed’.
        who knows what challenges are in place for the country especially now that the politician are in do or die mode regarding presidential elections in 2015.

  31. chucks says:

    Beegeagle bloggers, I really want to appreciate you guys.after reading and digesting all your analysis to contemporary issues, i BOLDLY say you guys are the best and represent the best our dear nation can offer. I wish one of us could be made the HMOD or DG of one of the Intel agencies…hmnnn.. What a wonderful world it would be. Anyways I seize this medium to appreciate everyone—Blogger of the century Field Marshall Beegs, Gen Akin Oges, AVM KF, Indomitable Gen Igbi,Oga Victor,Admiral Yagazie,Gen Jimmy,Oga Sideways&Smiling, On-point RKA, Co-ordinator General Solorex,Giant Killer BlackRev,Consultant per-excellence Peccavi,My oga @ d top Doziex, Cutevik, Freegulf-my analyst of the year, Gen Emeritus Ifiok Umoeka and others too numerous to mention. Haaa, you people made my year and helped me understand quite a lot. Thank you so much. Am off to my hamlet for the holidays and to do some mmanya nkwu and anu-nchi. God be with you,happy holiday and see you next year.

    • rka says:

      I think I can speak on behalf of the others and say thanks for your contribution as well Oga chucks. It’s the collective that makes the blog great.

  32. rka says:

    A cross border attack on fleeing insurgents will not attract an attack from France. BH has been declared a terrorist organisation, so the French will attack a friendly country as opposed to the terrorist?

    Remember, we are not attacking French forces on the ground and may well give the Cameroonian authorities the push they need to collaborate more effectively.

    Not even the UN will deny Nigeria the right of self-defence which is what it would be termed as, even going as far as pre-emptive strikes against known BH camps.

  33. freeegulf says:

    with this BH onslaught so prevalent, in the end, i believe the camerounian would agree to hot pursuit.
    as for preemptive strike, with combined air and major ground forces as lots of bloggers are alluding to here, our leadership are not that fired up yet. not bcos of cameroun or far away france. but they just haven’t gotten to the stage where they see BH actions as an existential threat.
    moreover, no theater commander would get the blessing to go for the jugular. the CDF wouldn’t. neither would the NSA push for it. we want to manage not annihilate them

    • rka says:

      Oga freeegulf, you have valid points. One just wonders what the catalyst would be that would spur us into this kind of action.

      I fear that it may be left too long. Maybe as we speak, there is a plan in place for this likely scenario (I hope so).

  34. peccavi says:

    Oga Chucks na you get knife yam and palm oil.
    Territorial sovereignty trumps self defence, unless there is a massive army and Cameroun refuses to do anything about it waiting on the borders.
    The questions raised are the pertinent ones. Political will, diplomatic coercion and military capability.
    Even if Cameroun says come and chop, what can we do? We are not Russia or the US with all their assets, so the first question is where is the enemy? We have not found them in our own country.
    Hopefully I’ll get a chance to develop the theme better but the triumverate that we need is political will on both sides, diplomatic coercion/ legal cover and military capability

  35. rka says:

    That is the equivalent of saying Israel doesn’t have a right to strike at Hamas across the border when attacked, which they do. It is the same principle. It has also happened in South America, when Colombia chased rebels into Ecuador. Okay there was an uproar and yes, it would be better to have a co-ordinated response in an ideal world, but politics usually gets in the way.

    We can at least chase them to their hideouts and I am sure it wouldn’t take long to locate their bases if surveillance aircrafts are free to enter Cameroonian airspace. I bet the Cameroonians know perfectly well where they are.

    Authorities also knew of the BH camps in the Sambisa Forest and elsewhere, but were politically prevented from doing anything about it until the state of emergency was declared.

    • peccavi says:

      They don’t. They get away with it because they have a powerful patron and they’ve been doing it so long no one blinks an eye any more.
      What Israel does is illegal. What do Israel, Turkey and Colombia all have in common?
      Knowing someone is in Sambisa Forest or in Waza Game Reserve is like saying I know there is a snake in the grass, We have still not chased them out of Sambisa 6 months into the State of Emergency. Surveillance assets are part of the solution but as I said until you have someone on the ground identifying what you are looking at how do you know it is an insurgent camp and not refugees or smugglers or hunters?
      A bush camp looks like a bush camp.

    • igbi says:

      Please, you need to participate more, I have the feeling you are more intellectually aware than many here, I hope you contribute more especially when it comes to the security status in the north-east.

  36. rka says:

    Israel does get away with it granted. The same scenario will play out. If BH keep coming through to attack, they get a response. It will become common practice and expected.

    I think you do the military a little disservice. They do have surveillance capabilities through the ATR 40 MPA aircrafts and high resolution images through satellites that can identify enemy encampments and equipment. Nigeria’s AOR was mapped by satellite and information passed over to the military before troops were deployed to Mali. We are not privy to intelligence gathered as well as further surveillance assets that have most likely been procured by the intelligence agencies.

    We don’t know what SF troops are up to on the ground, but we do need more assets, especially transport helicopters, additional surveillance platforms for the border regions and COIN aircrafts with precision guided bombs etc. to make life easier.

  37. jimmy says:

    OGA FREEGULF , PECCAVI.
    Great minds think alike. i enjoyed your debates back and forth, and now I can add my two kobo first in yoruba “Tani ran Saddam n’se” ( Translation who sent Saddam message) OGA Freegulf and Peccavi I am not in to conspiracy or even Imperial ones either. Every country sooner or later ( I am talking of the strong ones) sooner or later will Darwinian on us they will do the best thing that suits there own strategic interests.
    Nigeria as you correctly deduced wil not attack Cameroon currently we have leadership at the Presidential level and at the helm of the NAF.
    This however does not stop an unwanted scenario that all three countries should avoid.
    SF chasing BH could follow through into no man’s land between Cameroon and Nigeria within the context of a firefight which could easily see Nigerian SF overrun a poorly defended gendarme border.
    It is unlikely that France would get involved unless there are french casualties ( likelihood 0.000001) with BH officially designated as a FTO it just got a little more difficult to pay ransom and sip champagne for a meaningless finger- wagging – security conference in PARIS.
    Nigeria has to not only locate those camps but to understand what are her strategic interests in taking them out forever is it to buy $20 million dollar PLANES for the president or to buy $20 m troop INSERTION helios or $20 million dual fighter jets. right now this type of pragmatic thinking is not taking place.
    Every country including poor wretched fill in the blank ( Haiti, Sierra Leone) will break the law do something illegal provided it is in their own interests it does not make it right but if you as another country are aware of that then you are awake to country’s NATIONAL STRATEGIC INTERESTS.

  38. rka says:

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=125754
    Nigeria seeks deal to hunt Boko Haram inside Cameroon

    Nigeria is seeking permission to attack Boko Haram bases in Cameroon.

    Nigeria is negotiating a security agreement with Cameroon and France to grant its troops access to Boko Haram settlement in the former French colony, which officials claim has become the new haven for the fighters.

    “It is discovered that Boko Haram terrorists now launch attacks on Nigeria from their hideouts in villages located on the Cameroonian side of the border,” a Defense Ministry official told Anadolu Agency on Thursday, requesting anonymity for the sensitivity of the issue.

    “It is for this reason that we are seeking an agreement with Cameroon and France which still maintains some military outpost in its former colony to enable our troops to, where and when necessary, chase these terrorists down to their haven,” he added.

    “It is only through this means that the attacks can be stopped.”

    The official claimed that Boko Haram militants had used Cameroon in their recent attacks.

    “The insurgents mobilized themselves from Cameroonian villages for the December 2 attack in Maiduguri and last week’s assault on Bama,” he said

    Nigerian authorities confirmed on Tuesday that 15 soldiers and 50 fighters had been killed in last weekend’s Boko Haram attack on a military barracks in the village of Bama in Nigeria’s northeastern Borno State, an epicenter of the ongoing insurgency.

    “So it is agreed that they must be denied of what seem to be their new hideouts,” said the Defense Ministry official.

    He argued that whilst Cameroon has continued to support Nigeria’s anti-terrorism campaign through the multinational task force comprising troops from Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Chad, it had been very “measured” in its dealing with the Boko Haram fighters.

    “We understand that Cameroon is being careful not to get all involved in the fight and the reason is not far-fetched,” he said.

    The Nigerian official said the agreement being sought is to ensure Nigeria is not accused of violating the sovereignty of Cameroon when troops launch air or ground assaults against Boko Haram hideouts across the border.

    Defense spokesman Chris Olukolade told AA on Thursday that his country “will do everything possible and seek all necessary alliances to safeguard our people from these terrorists.”

    He stopped short of confirming whether or not such agreement is in the works.

    The Bama incident has again raised doubts about the military’s claim to have weakened the insurgents’ capacity to carry out deadly attacks.

    It comes less than one month after Boko Haram militants attacked an airbase in Maiduguri, capital city of Borno, the Maiduguri International Airport and other soft targets in the city, leaving a number of soldiers and civilians dead and key military equipment destroyed.

    Boko Haram, a hitherto peaceful organization that had preached against corruption, suddenly turned violent in 2009 following the murder of group leader Mohamed Yusuf while in police custody.

    In the years since, the group has been blamed for thousands of terrorist acts, including attacks on churches and security posts across Nigeria’s northern region, especially the three northeastern states of Borno, Yobe and Adamawa.

    Although it claims to want an Islamist government in the region, Nigerian Muslims – most of whom reject Boko Haram as un-Islamic – have also been targeted by the group.

  39. ifiok umoeka says:

    Wao, I don miss’o. Sha, I’m back!
    1st, Oga Chucks, thank u but Etubom Beegs deserves all the credit for this platform.
    Oga freegulf, I’m not blind to real politik but it was tech superiority on the field and better training and prep that decided the victors! Like Oga Jimmy ask, who send am? I’ve said it severally, its not about France but us. Oga Peccavi don talk am, if them say come chop we go fit chop, no. Why? have u ever tried eating with a bad tooth? What’s the capacity of our assault transport? No one can deny right to hot pursuit but in spite of all we are saying it still amounts to breach of sovereignty except the country is carried along!
    @ RKA, as to the question of Israel and Lebanon, we forget one very powerful pointer… ISRAEl COULD! The question is can we?

    • igbi says:

      I think what many including you are not realizing is that we do not have a choice !

    • igbi says:

      And to answer your question: yes we can. And what is the alternative: should we say: “ok, let boko haram keep crossing the border and killing Nigerians”. I think you should pay more attention to what mister Rka wrote. By the way, hosting a terrorist network which frequently attacks your neighbour is not only a “breach of sovereignty” but also an invitation for your neighbour to do the job for you.

  40. freeegulf says:

    thank you oga rka. well, folks, there we have it. negotiation for hot pursuit is very likely. and we will definitely chase them across the border to destroy the haven. however, a PREEMPTIVE STRIKE with major assets is NOT DEPENDENT ON CAMEROUN, OR FRANCE, OR LEGALITY. NO. it depends on our will power, and we dont currently have it.

    @oga jimmy, well said. we lack priorities. presidential jets but no sufficient attack helos. this is the WILLPOWER that is holding us back. i also said that conference was a waste of time and GEJ attending was even demeaning of our status. sha that viewpoint wasn’t the most popular at the time. if france has her way, she would add us into her french afrique umbrella. for her that seems easier than head on collision or project support secession. if she can break the country or attack her, she might as well want a very close relationship where abj and paris would even have a thing stronger than abj and london.
    this policy is nothing new, tho is seem to be renewed with more drive now.

    @comrade ifiok, na the real politik wey i dey stressed on since u dey see so. the weapons are additional muscles, but they alone do not decide conflicts. its our will to carry out these actions that is lacking.

    @gen peccavi, once the willpower is there, the necessary weapons will be acquired and these miscreants can be chased to the ends of the earth. DSS and NIA still have not neutralized BH political and financial sponsors. we have to wonder why this is so hold for these dreadful intel peeps. its not bcos they don’t know at least some of them. but there is a leash on them.

  41. ifiok umoeka says:

    Fair enough mate, because all the will power in this world without the necessary muscle will not bend a rope. I hope that we pull out the bad tooth, get the cutlery (or wash hand mold de eba) and descend on the meal!

  42. freeegulf says:

    and without that willpower there will never be any muscle to bend a rope. the former precedes the latter. Nigeria is a classic case. after 14 years of democracy, still no multi role fighter jets for NAF. no warships for the navy, and the army is still far from optimum battle readiness. the country does not lack money, what it suffers from is the political will to actually equip the army that is lacking.

  43. ifiok umoeka says:

    Don’t mind me, I’m thinking from…’the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak’ and …’some have food but can not eat, SOME CAN EAT BUT HAVE NO FOOD…’ Hahaha. Let’s give our boys and girls the tool they need to get the job done. I will not seize to use every and any opportunity to advocate that.

    • peccavi says:

      As you have said the spirit needs to be willing, how a country with 14 Presidential jets yet no national airline, shipping line or dedicated strike aircraft can be looking to buy another one completely baffles me. Unfortunately the strategic imperative is currently the 2015 elections and nothing more but at the operational level things are happening, there are talks in place and Cameroun has declared 7-7 curfews on the departments (I think equivalent of LGA’s) that are adjacent to Nigeria. They have deployed their SF up there and I know there are some French CoS Special Forces in the area looking for the kidnapped priest

  44. freeegulf says:

    my oga, we have been advocating for long now o. these policy makers are either wicked or clueless.
    season greetings.

  45. cutievik says:

    @Oga freegulf, My points exactly,so much advocating yet no procurements, Probably we should send an open letter through the print media to the MOD and the PRESIDENCY,who know we might just be heard.
    I don tire for them oo!

    • Akin Oges says:

      Nigerians who put their lives out for our collective security not paid their salaries before the Xmas holidays (?). The security outfits lacks transport/attack helicopters and MRAPs to checkmate an increasingly virulent terrorist gangs (?). And yet somebody had the state of mind to acquire an additional luxury jet for the Presidential fleet that has the 2nd largest collection of air crafts in the country after Arik Air (?). This lack of practical hard thinking, brought on by wicked greed (somebody will become stupendously rich from the over inflated price tag of the new business jet) is why a gang of thugs (BH) will constitute a major migraine for a nation the size, resource and importance as Nigeria. The real damage is not the terribly poor judgement/behaviour of the political leadership, but the dislocating perception created by it; no serious entity will take us serious (unfortunately, this include satanic BH; they know the political leadership/ elite class are not switched-on).

  46. peccavi says:

    What is this constant obsession with procurement? We Nigerians are so obsessed with quantifying everything by spending money or acquiring stuff.
    What use are all these shiny toys if we never use them or buy them and park in one corner?
    I strongly believe you build a structure first and then equip as per requirement. Rather than buy jets and subs because x or y has jets and subs.
    Insurgencies do not need fast jets and shiny toys it needs infantry, helicopters, artillery. COIN is an infantry war and that needs to be the focus, light and mechanised infantry, with infantry support weapons. Close support aircraft and transport aircraft. If we are resourcing properly

    • igbi says:

      It is not just Nigerians, it is the entire world: France, the USA, Britain, Brazil, Angola, Algeria, Egypt, …
      It is necessary to procure more equipment for every army, insurgency or not. And this conflict is much more similar to a foreign aggression than an insurgency (the enemy comes from outside the country and runs back outside after attacks). There is no alternative to procurement. Unless we wish to become the weakest country in Africa and perhaps the world. And the soldiers are already overtrained, what we lack is equipment.

      • peccavi says:

        What do you quantify as overtrained?
        The question is not whether or not it is necessary to procure equipment but what are you procuring and what is it for?
        If you do not understand the nature of the conflict and have not defined a solution then it is difficult if not impossible to resource it. A huge defence budget has not solved the problem

      • igbi says:

        The Nigerian defense budget is smaller than that of Algeria, Egypt, and South Africa, and is insignificant compared to the budgets of countries the same size as Nigeria. So I can say that the budget of the military is certainly not impressive. Although if you compare it to our neighbors who by the way can not defend themselves from any attack whatsoever and rely entirely on france for defense then you might say it is impressive. I think your suggestion should be aimed at the 7th division, not the entire army/air force.
        And by judging by the training and retraining habits of the NA, I can categorically say the training of the armed forces is well taken care of, now we need a bigger budget more indigenous technology and more equipment. I say the soldiers are over trained because they are very well trained and perform with very little what western armies perform with the best equipment on earth. The budget of the military is still a midget compared to the challenges we are facing and the prediction of brake up of our country. It is now or never, equip the armed forces now or we might all be dead in 2015.

    • agee says:

      Re:What is this constant obsession with
      procurement? Oga Pecavi, yes we need to prioritize our needs, but everything will still come down to procurement; NVG’s, surveillance equipments, APC’s, MRAP’s, quality bulletproof, helios which u’ve indicated as what we should prioritize all involve procurement. I believe the training our guys get is not that bad, atleast should b sufficient to tackle BH. We tend to be more of a reactionary military that’s bad but wit the procurement of the right tools when we react, it won’t b like d maiDuguri airport incident.
      As for the presidential fleet, the matter get as e b, I had to look up wikipedia to compare our toys wit dat of other countries, the story was disheartening, countries that re way richer than we are operate way less toys in their presidential fleet than we do; and the govt keeps telling us we are broke. Saw somewher that each of d presidents 2 falcons cost 51million dollars each, myt be less tho but that’s still a lot, the fleet has a gulf stream V a G550 also, wat do we need a new one 4? While the airforce is dying for lack of birds.

  47. cutievik says:

    @Igbi,I must humbly say you got my attention for a minute there with your points,
    I agree with your veiws on d issue of a proclaimed break up of the country come 2015,in a well strategic game plan i should have expected the next budget to pay more attention to procurement of defense equipment on mass which would serve as a deterrent to blood thristy fellows knowing fully well that the armed forces would surely be the last ‘peg on the lining’ if political intervention fails.This clearly shows an indepth lack of foresight on our political leaders would I guess are busy paying more attention on d forth coming elections rather than the unity of d world’s largest black race country. Also shocking is the fact the country has no minister of defence for months now,this clearly pin points the flimsy manner in which National security is veiwed. Our continuous avocation and plead seedlings for a well kitted armed force able to protect the integrity of the nation has not fallen on fruitful grounds,on this note I humbly share this personal opnion with all able articulate Generals on this blog…I suggest we draft a well detailed open letter to the presidency on a well read national print media,stating the apparent importance of A Strong Capable Military in d country’s uppermost good,captions under this such as infrastructure,technological transfer,procurement and etc shall be carefully choosen by a selected team of these blog members for a unqiue publication,This IMO would break new grounds,move mountains,destroy protocols,raise questions,provide answers in the MOD and Aso Rock bringing a new breath of life i believe would come in no time. Once again,this is my humble opnion which I believe would take our plead to another new level,I Strongly agree no man is a iota of knowledge therefore all veiws are welcomed.
    Thanks.

    • naijaseal says:

      @Cutievik,
      I believe there are active and retired senior military officers from the Nigerian military reading this blog. I also believe some politicians read this blog. If they have not felt any urgency and unease concerning the predicted breakup in 2015, then we do not deserve to exist as a nation.

      I doubt the efficacy of any open letter to the presidency, but maybe i’m being sceptical…
      I’ll wait to hear what more informed members of this blog say.

    • igbi says:

      I agree with the idea of the letter, it is a good start and we must start somewhere !

  48. cutievik says:

    @Naijaseal,I align my self with your veiws,but don’t u think those supposed Generals aren’t gettin the attention they so seek? Or politicians just trying to keep abreast of resent security happenins and updates with Beegeagles been a pacesetter?
    I still believe when our detailed positive security letter hits the vendours…….eyes would be open to harsh realities needs of our patriotic armed forces,IMO. Please Gens I appeal to your indepth experiences for comments on this issue.

  49. peccavi says:

    Defence and security is not an owambe party that is determined on the ‘I big pass my neighbour’ principle.
    This blog is read and referenced by quite a few people within and without Nigeria so maybe we should try and elevate the discourse beyond simply, ‘s[pen d money’ and ‘buy shiny new toys’.
    There are several key elements to National defence the first of which is policy/ politics. Without a clear policy then you can not define a strategy, without a strategy you can not structure your forces, if you have not structured your forces then you cannot resource them. So by all means write an open letter, it will be good publicity for the blog but what are you going to aslk for? More equipment? Good news for all the contractors but it means the sum total of fuck all to the boys at the front.
    Why?
    We do not even have a defence minister. The ?minister of Information who is appaling at his day job is moonlighting in defence. Was the Minister of Defence sacked for not doing his job or for ‘other’ reasons? The answer to that tells you the first thing.
    Secondly we need a National Defence Policy.
    What are our threats, existential, severe, serious, minor or otherwise.
    What tools do we use for dealing with them? Diplomatic, socio cultural, law enforcement or military?
    How do we deploy those tools? What are the triggers and who leads?
    If we look at the diplomatic who are our allies? How do we balance the Big 5 of the security council? Who can we rely on to fight our case? Can we impose our diplomatic will on Africa or West Africa? If not, why? and How?
    How do we deal with external threats? Militarily or diplomatically? If we chose a military first option then we need the capability to deploy forces and project force, in other words we need the capability to deny enemy air fields and enemy air space, we need to be able to blockade an enemy coast, we need to be able to deliver an expeditionary force to an enemy country, supply, support, and withdraw it. So then our equipment would be focussed on deep strike and expeditionary, aircraft with long ranges and precision capability, assault craft, helicopters etc. Vehicles that are light enough to be carried in C130s, artillery tat is air portable or can be broken down.

    Or is our military defensive, then the emphasis will be on defending our air space and destroying enemy concentrations in striking distance, so w are looking at fighter bombers with emphasis on payload rather than range, we are looking at integrated air defence and communications, small coastal defence and missile boats that can wreak havoc with enemy navies and merchant shipping. Short range transport for rapid reinforcement on internal lines. Armoured and infantry units to meet the enemy in battle and destroy them

    Or maybe our biggest threat is internal, so we need light troops equipped and orientated to deal with low tech insurgents where the worst threat is IEDs and small arms so MRAPs, helicopters and infantry will be the most decisive factor, not tanks or artillery.

    Or a combination of both so we need a mix of kit.

    But without defining a threat you are just fire fighting. Buying equipment for the sake of it. Whats the use of buying a fleet of tanks to fight Cameroun, Chad or Niger? Or deep strike fighters without airborne radar or command and control.

    Equipment comes last. Define the threat.
    And if we are focussing solely on Boko Haram and that threat, then jets and tanks are not what is needed.
    The threat is from lightly armed, highly mobile troops. their key asset is mobility and concealed rear areas so to counter them you restrict mobility. You do this through aggressive and continuous patrols on foot, by vehicle and in the air. So you need regular troops, mounted troops, helicopters, UAV’s and air craft. You need to destroy them in their hiding places for which you need long range recce troops, trackers, SF, ground attack air craft and helicopters and light rapidly deployed artillery.
    Troops need to be well trained, well motivated and well looked after Pay their fucking SALARIES AND PENSIONS should be the first and last statement in any letter. Anybody who steals soldiers salaries, pensions and allowances should be shot, simple and short.
    Ensure they are given professional medical treatment in the country.
    Look after them, make sure they have training, weapons and good leadership
    So if you keep shouting about buy this, buy that particularly in terms of Boko Haram it is a waste of time. Other than helicopters we have all the kit we need to defeat Boko Haram, we need well equipped, well trained infantry and every soldier is first and foremost an infantry man so the Army needs to get artillery, armour and other units, put them through a refresher course and put them as ground holding units in Borno and them send the infantry out to live in Sambisa, Bama Gwoza until they find the enemy and destroy them.

    But I know I’m wasting my breath on this

    • igbi says:

      Threats to Nigeria as of today:
      1) France
      2) terrorism
      3) international cooperation to hijack Nigerian oil
      4) ethnic militia
      5) the situation in CAR and the region in general.
      6) the planned break up of Nigeria by ….
      Conclusion: equip the armed forces now ! Fighter jets, indigenous technology, submarines, etc… equip, equip, equip !

    • igbi says:

      I am sorry but I disagree with you on many of the things you said. First of all I didn’t know that boko haram had graduated to being called “troops”. Second of all, we need state of the art equipment and technology. The “countries” surrounding us are not real countries, they are rather french colonies (their independence was a sham). And those countries will always be weak and never progress, I don’t suppose you mean Nigeria should follow that trend ? Let me give you an other point of view:
      On the one hand you have west Africa: a bunch of very weak states (except Nigeria) with no sovereignty (except Nigeria) and in that same region you have the biggest economy of the continent, don’t you think the arabs and others will start to see Nigeria as a prey ?
      I agree that salaries need to be paid, but for the training I have already told you the soldiers were very well trained, so that one is irrelevant. You can not have the nation focus on just boko haram alone and ignore the fact that we are in the most troubled environment in the world ! We need to be a little bit proactif, and you suggestion goes against proactiveness. Moreover everywhere else in the world countries are equipping their armed forces and you suggestion goes against that for Nigeria.
      What I think is very important to note is that even if there is little challenge, you must have a strong army/navy/airforce, but in our case we have all the challenges on earth.
      So Okonjo, if you are listening then equip the armed forces.
      Even the ex militants got a bigger budget that the army, can you imagine that ?

  50. ifiok umoeka says:

    1st of all, oga Oges, thank u very much.
    2ndly for once oga Igbi, I raise my hand for u, but then I oga Peccavi is not far from ur position! I remember raising that issue and almost no one could understand me! I remember asking why when someone said we should get the S300 and I ask what our vision was and what we stood for as a nation. Oga, when we get that right then policy can be formulated to achieve it. So oga Peccavi, u’re. Wasting ur breathe.

  51. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga igbi, france is not our #1 threat! Its the selfish and foolish politicians with their myopic ethn/religious POLITRICKING that is our #1 threat. Every other thing cascades from there including corruption, value decadence and lack of fairness, equity and natural justice. Our own ENEMY is from OUR HOUSEHOLD!

    • igbi says:

      I agree completely, I am sorry for not putting those as our threats. I wonder if the corrupt officials know that ultimately their corruption would lead to their deaths. Le us take the example of the police: let us say a DPO buys his girl friends gifts with the money meant for equipment for his force. What happens when boko haram or massob or an ethnic militia or armed rubbers attack his force ? The answer is: he gets decapitated ! he loses his head because his men can not defend the force without the equipment. So politicians please, take note.

  52. freeegulf says:

    mucho gracias, gens peccavi, igbi, ifiok. you guys are very much on point! with variations and perspectives, but all definitely terrific.

    gen peccavi highlighted the issue on national policy. very correct
    oga igbi highlighted the multifaceted nature of the threats and their compounding issues. brilliant
    comrade ifiok touched on the issue of internal cohesion. numero uno! ‘the enemy is from our household’.

    bringing these complex facts together to form up a decent national defence policy at the apex, would ensure that the armed forces is at a balance with the right head and the right tools.

    not only are we fighting BH within, we should also be ready to chase them to the ends of the universe. however, our focus on BH shouldn’t take our eye from the ball on other threats, and anticipated threats. as a result, there re valid reasons to have light armed and highly mobile troops in the NE in the form of 7 DIV with MRAPs, helicopters, UAV, light artillery, mortars and good comms with grounded intel network.

    at the same time, we might be forced to play a leading role in other hot spots, in west and central africa. combats in these hot zones will require flexibility for the military, as a result, fighter jets with range are needed. strategic reconnaissance also needed. LPDs and LSTs have to be factored in for these conflicts.

    lastly, oga ifiok favorite topic, Deterrence. just as we are fighting to keep peace in other theaters, we also need to maintain a strong military especially given the fact that the gulf of guinea is becoming ever so golden. a strong navy to patrol the length and breath of not just west africa, but also project power as far as angola in central africa. an excellent and capable air force to enforce our objectives and keep external threats at bay. a strong and ready to deploy army to not only defend our landmass, but to carry the war to other external operational theaters, depending on the tactics and strategy employed by A’HQ

    it all seem expensive and overambitious. however, we should not forget where we are aiming at. attaining such heights require massive energy and proper guidance. if we don’t need the responsibility, we might as well break up into tiny republics that wouldn’t bother anyone and pray we not to be preyed on either.

  53. startrek says:

    A military without modern equipment is an ordinary police force. If Nigeria had multirole fighter in her hangar .. we would have taken the lead in Mali long before France. When the A-Jets were acquired there was no Immediate threat to Nigeria. Problem is not with the president or civilian politicians. It is the military politicians that are the cause. A politician no matter how corrupt is very fearful of his life therefore if the military is open to the nation regarding its equipment, you will be surprised at the response…..

  54. Akin Oges says:

    Oga peccavi, your submission was razor sharp and a-complete-body as usual. I always wonder how military training tune out individuals with such profound capacity to make emotionally dry but practically savvy analysis of any subject. Doff my hat, sir. In the same breath, I see the point in Oga igbi’s position: the military needs the hardware, there may not be the existential need for the Super Flanker, submarine, aircraft carrier etc today, but as a practical man like yourself knows we live in a latently unpredictable and fast changing world, therefore, it is clever to be forearmed (literarily). Let us get the equipment in (or agree for the items to be built here with the benefit of technology transfer) and at the same time activate the drive to articulate and perfect policy/systems/operational order to cast us a rounded and robust nation to be respected and regarded. However, the apparent immediate requirements are transport/attack helicopters, MRAPs, Su-25s etc.

  55. xnur44 says:

    Peccavi, you are not wasting your breath, your thoughts are not far from what is prevailing in staff and briefing rooms. Recce SF teams have conducted infil/exfil mission beyond our borders and done threat assessment as per mission profile, what is left is how the political instrument and diplomacy is brought to bear, as can be seen with recent govt pronouncement and outreach with regards to Cameroun.

    With regards to the Army (am not discussing tactics with obvious implications) basic training courses, I will like to emphasize more tactical night fighting training with infra-red and image intensifier gears slaved to AK series rifles. So that when these young soldiers are deployed for combat, fatality will be kept low because the ratio is high as it is.

    In the light of lessons learnt, I will like the Airforce to consider the acquisition of incandescent cartridges to deploy on the Alphajets for enhanced night raids on BH convoy attacks. If an area under attack can be illuminated at night then targets can be acquired and appropriate weapon system to bear to negate it. I emphasize again, the Airforce need to deploy incendiary warheads on their rockets and bombs because ordinary high explosives tend to crack up easily among tree branches in the woods.
    The Airforce has shown us their good UAVs, but what good will be made of their intel and real time video capabilities if the operators are not trained to direct air strikes. Why cant series production be fast tracked so that it can be deployed or are we going to deploy UAVs when the war on terror is over (then blame the lapses on external factors)?

  56. rka says:

    @xnur44, you are spot on in your assessment and I am glad that recce SF teams have indeed been busy as I originally thought.

  57. peccavi says:

    As Oga Ifiok has said, France is not our enemy, neither is any 1st world country.
    I will keep emphasising that I am in strong favour of re-equipping and rearmament. My key and over riding point is that this needs to be underpinned with a sound policy and national defence strategy, yet if we do not do the basics like pay their salaries and pensions, then what is the point. Thats all
    Oga xnur44: I’m glad to hear that. It’s important that we understand out threat and deal with it. I’m not sure what our long range recce capability is but this war is not all about walking! Using the legs to go into the hills and bring the enemy to the fight. Boko Haram is no longer a few al majirirs with sticks and rifles, we are now fighting trained competent fighters. I will say for the last time, I write as a military analyst not with emotion or feeling, I am giving a military assessment. It is not meant to be pleasant or politically correct it merely needs to be correct.
    NVG’s are not as expensive as before, hand held flares, mortar and artillery illumination shells are all very useful especially for base protection, hopefully they are being used.
    For aircraft, its better to have an infra red searchlight for night ops. When seen through NVG’s its like the whole area is being illuminated, however the enemy can’t see the infra red light so they don’t take cover!
    Like I said technology is all well and good but we need to make sure its suitable to the job.
    The Cameroun deal seems to be going through, lets see what comes of it

    • igbi says:

      Accuracy, correctness, constructiveness, foresight, ingenuity, intelligence, awareness, those are the things we are all running after on this blog.

    • beegeagle says:

      Let’s get this straight, gentlemen. We need to be careful not to blow this issue of ‘unpaid salaries’ out of all proportion. Like I said, I am on vacation at some military barracks even as I write this. The orderly and driver to my host, a redneck military officer, both told me that this issue of delays in salary payment is not nearly the norm and it is just a bleep from nowhere. For many years now, it has been normal to get paid on the 22ND day of the month.

      The driver, a muslim, even went on to assure me that prior to the last Eid festivities, monthly salaries were paid as early as the 12TH DAY of the month…yes, pay day came early on the 12th day of the month.

      As of Xmas eve, many service personnel were seen at ATM machines in this town withdrawing cash from their accounts in response to credit alerts sent to their mobile phones by various banks. I am also sure that my host got a text alert on the night of the 23rd while we sat watching CCTV News together because he told me so as soon as it happened.

      So pay scant attention to the alarmists. Between the usual due date of 22nd and the 23rd, there is just a day’s delay. The clear difference here is that there is the anxiety of pending salaries at Xmas. Hence, the apprehension on the part of intending revellers. This was not helped by the snap embargo on leaves and passes.

      It is the case that many military men live apart from their families – some based at a fixed point in the face of consistent postings, while others have yet to relocate their families from the units where they were last posted out from. If a man cannot get a pass to go visit his family and cannot remit funds to them early enough, the feeling of alarm becomes understandable.

      What the Finance Directorate should have done is, replicate the feat which sufficed during the last muslim Eid festivities for the sake of fairness in a multireligious Nigeria. It does the image of the Army a world of good – similar approaches to similar episodes – and ensures that skulduggery is not perceived as the underlying cause.

      Going forward, perhaps the 20th day of December should be set as due date for the payment of salaries so that preparations and travels for the Xmas commence early enough. That is motivational stuff and good for the morale of personnel at a time such as we living through in Nigeria with combat operations ongoing.

      Good morning one and all.

  58. ifiok umoeka says:

    I mentioned laser guided rocket a while ago and I know that we have kits 2 convert unguided rocket 2 guided ones. Add laser designator and u had ur own precision munitions at little cost. This na hamattan’o. Oga 44, hamattan fire no be play’o! But I’m game with the rest’o. Oga Peccavi, continue the good work’o.
    My Oga Gen Beegs, thanks for the sanitation for the link’o. Grateful

  59. ifiok umoeka says:

    When I head about the alpha upgrades, my mind went there.These can be used by fast jets to copters to land mobile platforms!

  60. peccavi says:

    Rain does not fall on one roof alone: Nigeria, Cameroun and the Central African Republic. Part 2
    As related in Part One, one could define Northern Cameroun as Vital Ground to Boko Haram and Ansaru and the recurrent crisis in CAR means that Eastern Cameroun is perpetually threatened by banditry and insecurity.
    From a Nigerian perspective this is a severe threat, for Cameroun it is an existential threat. The Camerounian armed forces are not prepared to deal with multiple threats of this nature and will end up overstretched and unable to defend themselves or the population.
    The costs of operations against insurgents on 2 fronts will be prohibitive as will training, equipping and paying an expanded military and police, this would also give the Bakassi insurgency new life as forces are denuded to deal with problems elsewhere.
    Paul Biya’s strongest selling point has been that he has kept Cameroun peaceful and stable; a rampaging Boko Haram or Seleka would put lie to that and give the opposition a valid rallying cry.
    If history is any indication any popular protests would be ruthlessly crushed again straining the security forces but also giving opposition groups a motive for taking up arms themselves to either defend themselves from the foreign groups or attack government forces.
    Thus an inability to resolve these issues will lead inevitably to the collapse of the Biya regime which could lead Northern Cameroun becoming a repeat of Northern Mali but on a more confused scale with far greater impact on its densely populated surroundings.
    There are 4 elements that must be looked at to address this: the Political, Legal, Military and the Economic
    Political: there must be political will in the surrounding countries to address this problem.
    Nigeria: defence and security in 2013 cost Nigeria N668.56bn, over 1200 citizens have been reported killed since May 2013. 13,500 hectares of farmland is lying unharvested and seeds unplanted, tens of thousands of refugees and internally displaced. Thus the imperative should be to generate political will at the highest level, percolated down through the chain of command defining a holistic all encompassing strategy to destroy Boko Haram and Ansaru, neutralise Islamic militancy, reemphasise the constitutional rule of law, identify the conditions whereby militancy occurs and eliminate them
    Cameroun: Cameroun faces threats to its East, Southwest and North West. Unlike Nigeria it does not have the capacity to absorb multiple crises and carry on. The questionable health of President Biya, Cameroun’s limited resources and the brittleness of his regime do not allow room for manoeuvre. A French intervention would help but the French are unlikely to get involved in a crisis that does not have a reasonably quick outcome. Thus the political imperative for Cameroun is to identify the key threats and spread the cost in blood and treasure of neutralising them amongst as many countries as possible and mitigate any negative effects.
    Chad: Chad is small (in population), large in territory and extremely poor with complex internal and external affairs. It has a small and highly competent and experienced military which is dominated by certain ethnic groups. Chad has a North/ south, Christian / Muslim split. There are a multiplicity of rebel groups, criminals, jihadists, foreign rebels, internally displaced persons, refugees, it suffers from malnutrition and desertification and much more. The key security imperatives are Sudanese supported rebels who in 2008 occupied most of the capital and came close to defeating the regimes forces. Libya used to present a severe threat to the North but with the fall of Ghadafi the threat has translated to transnational criminality which is not necessarily a threat to the Government. The key economic imperative is the 1070km pipeline from the Doba oil fields in Chad to the Kribi Terminal in Cameroun. The oilfields and pipeline are in the Christian south of this majority Muslim country that is dependent on stability in Cameroun and CAR for its economic well being. Thus Chad needs stability in the south and north in order to focus on the threat to the east.
    Niger: Niger also has interests in the Cameroun pipeline and an interest in ensuring its Southern borders are secured so it can concentrate on the Tauregs and others to the North.
    CAR: has issues. It is plagued by poor infrastructure, poor governance. Insecurity and criminality in the north from local and transnational bandits, a multiplicity of rebel groups, illegal mining, poor rule of law. By addressing the problem of criminals on its western and northern borders with the assistance of a collective it at least removes one of its problems.
    Legal: in order to provide legal framework one would suggest that a Treaty between the Lake Chad states of Nigeria, Cameroun, Chad and Niger (with CAR having observer status).
    This treaty will create a mechanism for states to deal with transnational threats that threaten their common border area, be they economic, criminal, environmental, military or otherwise.
    It should set up the structure for a joint military command for the specified area, harmonised law enforcement and jurisprudence with an intelligence sharing and joint strike capability.
    Military and Law Enforcement:
    Area of Operations: an area should be defined as the multinational operational area, which can be reduced or increased by agreement with member states. This should include parts of Nord, Extreme Nord and Adamaoua Regions of Cameroun, parts of Borno, Adamawa, Yobe, Taraba and Benue States in Nigeria. Diffa Prefecture in Niger, Hadjer-Lamis, Lac, N’Djamena, Chari-Baguirmi, Kanem, Mayo-Kebbi Est and Mayo-Kebbi Ouest Regions in Chad
    Command Structure: Within the context of the Lake Chad Treaty, there should be a joint command with 7 Division and Cameroun’s 3rd Joint Military Region (RMIA3). This command can then coordinate and resource military and police operations in Liaison officers should also be exchanged with adjacent military commands in Chad and Niger.
    All units within 7 Division and RMIA3 and other units should become part of a Multinational Command commanded by a single HQ, with Nigerien, Chadian, Camerounian and Nigerian units under the Operational Command of this Command for a given duration.
    Operations: should focus on 4 key elements
    Law Enforcement and Judiciary: national intelligence and police forces should form joint police intelligence cells and joint command elements. Special tribunals should be set up in each country to a common legal code ensuring that the penalties for certain offences (terrorism, banditry, smuggling, kidnap etc) committed within the area attract the same penalties in each country.
    Ground holding forces: these are fixed positions along roads and in key towns and villages in the Area of Operations sited to dominate the ground and provide each other with mutual support. Within a defined zone on the Camerounian side of the border should be joint bases with Camerounian/ Nigerian police/ army units operating together.
    Mobile forces: consisting of combined vehicle and foot patrols on both sides of the border, as well as aerial patrols with helicopters, UAVs and other assets. The purpose of the mobile forces will be to dominate the ground and deny the enemy freedom of movement away from the roads and inhabited areas.
    Strike force: A combined Camerounian, Nigerian, Chadian and Nigerien strike force should be generated. Special Forces and surveillance assets should be used to find insurgent and bandit camps, identify their supply routes, rest areas, and other infrastructure. The dedicated strike team will be used to destroy those targets identified with a combination of aerial bombardment and infantry assault.
    Nigerian forces should be given the authorisation to conduct hot pursuits into Cameroun for specified distances, with the authorisation to conduct air strikes with either fixed or rotary wing aircraft. Of course certain control measures would be built into such an agreement such as a limit of exploitation for Nigerian forces, beyond which the Camerounians would either take over or give permission for pursuit to go on. Air strikes again would have a certified chain of authorisation with both a Nigerian and Camerounian sign off.
    As part of the strike force a Nigerian Forward Operating base should be established at Garoua for troops, transport and attack aircraft. Surveillance aircraft and UAV’s should also be given overflight rights, with all products generated fed back into the Multinational HQ Intelligence coordination centre. Units from Chad and Niger would be tasked onto this command for use either offensively or as blocking forces.
    The enemy is unlikely to be completely destroyed but to flee either deeper into Cameroun or into Niger or Chad, as this happens units in the country that becomes the new safe haven will take a more and more prominent role in operations
    Economic: to prevent a reoccurrence of these groups it will be necessary to have a ‘Marshall Plan’ for this area. It would be unwise to do this in one country and neglect others as it will either generate envy or migration.
    The key issue is access to water and arable farmland. Arable farmland is threatened by desertification, thus an intensive tree planting campaign would not only counter desertification but suck up alot of manpower. This being a long term project, it would be a useful way to impart skills and boost the local economy.
    At the same time agricultural outreach schemes, marketing boards, roads, irrigation and other projects to boost economic prospects and self reliance in the area should be started. Designated fallow areas for nomads to graze their crops and meat processing factories would help limit conflict between nomads and farmers and give young Fulani men work.
    Conclusion:
    Many of the economic options are already happening with the Lake Chad Development Authority or Green Wall projects, there are treaties in place between Chad and Cameroun on security, Cameroun, CAR and Chad on anti poaching, Nigeria and Cameroun on borders etc, likewise there is already a Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF) formed in 1998 by Nigeria, Niger and Chad however all of these should be brought into one comprehensive treaty to include states that are currently benign.
    Merely dealing with Cameroun is short sighted as transnational insurgents are no respecters of borders and if threatened will simply relocate.. In order to comprehensively deal with these issues and prevent a reoccurrence and resurgence, all states and all factors need to be dealt with

    • igbi says:

      Very good analysis, but I hate the idea of Nigeria handing a marshal plan to other countries, we have enough poor people in our own country. Perhaps there is a better way then spreading our money in foreign countries.

  61. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga Peccavi, great right up as usual. Very insightful. However, for this to work if implemented, we need to pay attention to politicking( oga Freegulf baby) as the key element is trust building. Then again, France will want a role so as not 2 be irrelevant in it sphere of influence so how do we accommodate that without watering down this very sensible arrangement? Finally, on the economic side, we’ll need a lot of money thus outside funds will be needed at least for the non Nigerian element of the marshal plan. Perhaps a multinational approach is required and both the UN and AU will have 2 be brought on board. It’ll be a win for us in more than one way if we initiate it and push it through. My own 4kobo. Good morning

  62. peccavi says:

    Oga Ifiok, actually included references to the diplomatic game initially but removed it as I felt the point was too cumbersome, but to cut a long story short we need to get France involved, first off France has assets and treaties with all member countries and if France is on board so are they. France has surveillance assets that can make a huge difference and access to NATO and other assets that we would need but have no access to.
    As well as France, I would suggest we bring the AU, EU and US on board. If we argue cleverly we can claim that this can worm the nucleus of an AU standby force and if this experiment works the structure can simply be taken onto the AU without having to reinvent the wheel. With that we access funding, training, assets etc. Its down to clever strategizing now

  63. ifiok umoeka says:

    On salaries, I would think that 16th was really smart and would be more so for christmas (price wan kill us ) but the Eagle has spoken.
    @ Peccavi, all I can say is neat!

  64. freeegulf says:

    france, AU, EU, US on our territorial and security wahala? this is Nigeria you are referring to, not some banana republic. when did we get this weak that we have to internationalize our wahala.
    who constitute the AU and what will they do to alleviate the situation, other than big speeches and shuffling papers in addis ababa.
    EU might send military trainers, what else? are we now rebel run SRL or jihadist Mali to now start begging for EU to come and save us in Africa. hmmmm
    the closest in partnership is France. and even that role is over estimated. which assets and why should they be in a rush to help us? i keep hearing France France. what really can the french do for or against us? all this talk of France is getting really overblown, way too much.

    we don’t need any of these extras to complicate the set!! not France, not AU, not EU. they only make matter worse. its bad trying to live with the reality of an AFRICOM, and now we re advocating american help. which assets? drones? or do they have to send in their SF ala hunt for kony to help fight transnational terrorists under our watch.

    there will be no France, no AU, or US, or EU. if these troubled hot zones cant contain their own headache, they might as well roll over and play dead!! all these talk of international coalition like we re in the middle east need to cease. they are not father Christmas and we should stop going on our knees begging for Christmas presents.

    as far as real politik goes, nations have interests, it will be in our best interests to keep the aforementioned nations and organisations from this region. there’s nothing altruistic about their help, so we should really learn to solve our issues rather than bring in groups that would further weaken us in the long run.

    what next are we going to beg for, that NATO set up shop in the gulf of guinea and help us patrol our waters. like i said, we either find our own unilateral or multilateral (regional) solutions, or we should just rot in the hellhole we refuse to take serious.

    the great maxwell khobe advocated for ECOWAS standby force. They couldn’t even set that up, is it now a regional standby force that they can organize? this line of thinking is not only regressive, but is shows we are not serious as a nation or even a UN sec council perm seat contender.
    let AU standby force deal with stability in Somalia and nation building in DRC. they should stay the hell out of this region. what happen to the Nigeria that used to maintain 13000 soldiers in LBR and keep the entire region on lockdown. the Nigeria that air lifted a full division into SRL within weeks without begging for american strategic lift assets. we knew that US intelligence had a dime of taylor, and they could have helped. in the end, did they lift a finger? other than evacuating their nationals and other white skin people. I thought by now we should have actually learnt something from these national agendas and interests. i guess the Liberians have learnt a thing or two about trust in big brother america. its the green white green that is more likely to save them than the stars and stripes.

    how CAR and Cameroun will end up? who knows. but Chad definitely takes security more serious and wouldn’t mind spending a large part of their budget on acquisitions and defence, world bank and IMF be damned!

  65. peccavi says:

    Oga Freegulf abeg let me introduce you to the world or realpolitik.
    Our non banana republic has 4000 people stranded in Bangui, the Foreign Ministry has said they don’t know what’s going on its NEMA’s job, NEMA has said it is Foreign Ministry’s job. Maybe I’m mistaken and something has happened to the contrary. Ordinary Chad that does not have tarred road outside its capital has evacuated 4000 citizens, likewise Sudan, Cameroun.
    Big is in how you project yourself, not mouth or population. Again give me a day I will write a basic plan for evacuating our citizens, with all our resources we cannot charter a fleet of planes, secure a space in Bangui, register and evacuate our citizens.
    Ordinary Gambia pays its veterans back to WW2, I know of military people who have never seen a pension despite verifying upon verifying.
    When I am critical it is because I’m tired of how we mess up simple basic things but want to build nuclear power stations in our grandmothers toilet.
    On France. Niger, Chad, Cameroun and CAR are all Francophone countries that have defence treaties with France. whether you like it or not, if France is on side they will bring their clients along. Why would France support our intention to base and insert troops into their client states? Well France has intervened twice this year, Mali although relatively straightforward has tied them into a shithole country they have no interests in (They need Niger,Chad, Cote d’Ivoire and Djibouti, the other ones just drain money). CAR is a complete nightmare with everyone fighting everyone, no clear enemy to defeat and no exit strategy. they need the EU or AU to jump in so they can escape. Now if Cameroun collapses who will intervene? Frnace again. Meaning they need to deploy and sustain a Brigade plus in a territory bordered by Nigeria (with Boko Haram and Ansaru who have a special love for France), Chad, which has thousands of unemployed armed men and CAR
    So if you sell it to France that we will stabilise it before it goes bad but they need to support us with training, equipment, surveiilance assets, communications and other little toys, for them it is a small price to pay.
    Once France is on board with tap them and the Brits to hustle the EU to subsidise the effort, there is already an EU Sahel task Force. And again if Northern Cameroun goes bad the EU standby force might have to be deployed. A few hundred million and a state of the art command and control and intelligence analysis centre with cross training is a small price to pay.
    The US doesn’t want to deploy troops into Africa except small special forces and mercs, it is a key part of their strategy to get African armies to take responsibility so again we can get funds, equipment and training.
    Long story short. Chad is a backward country with less people than Kano State. The issue in CAr is a direct result of Chadian wahala. Bozize was their man, they provided his protection, when the guy vex them, that same Presidential Guard joined Seleka and pushed him out, not the same Chad is providing peacekeepers. Chad supports JEM rebels fighting in Sudan. Now how does a dirt poor country that a Lagos market woman can pay their Presidents salary manage to get away with this wahala? Because they suck up to the big boys like France. their army consists of at least 5 different rebel groups who have been fighting for and against the current government. By sending them to Mali, they get the French to pay for their army and keep the boys busy so they don’t overthrow the government. Its not pleasant but we have to be realistic. All our big mouth and big talk, when we were dragging Bakassi did our bigness bring anyone to our side? When Obasanjo was trying to pull our troops out of SL did they even offer us anything after all our sacrifices?
    So we can be too big for our britches or we can be clever and
    a) Get someone else to pay for our war
    b) Get the patron of our neighbours to do all the talking for us
    c) convince the rich countries that dealing with our problems is in their interests and they should provide what we need
    d) By influence. Once we are tied into the operation everytime they do something we dont like we simply say we are taking our toys and going home
    e) we get to base troops in our neighbouring countries and start countering French influence, and we get them to support it.
    f) we get the forces of surrounding countries under our command and destroy the insurgents

  66. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga Freegulf, I thought u were all in for real politik! I remember u saying that military might alone doesn’t win wars and u site the 90s era Gulf war where the US built a grand collation involving the Arabs and even succeeded in getting Israel and the then Soviet Union to abstain! As per banana republic, that we are not but brother that we are having this discussion means that we are weak! Have we not learned anything from the strong and mighty’s interventions of the last decade?
    U mentioned Liberia and Sierra Leone, apart from the ‘thiefings’ do u remember that we were told that our gulf war wind fall went into settling the bills of that intervention?
    Pls my Oga, just explain what u meant by Real Politik and diplomacy as applicable to Nigerian security, BH and our neibours!

    • freeegulf says:

      oga ifiok, would get back to this topic much later today, new year eve running around and plenty activities this early

  67. freeegulf says:

    oga peccavi, our leaders are shameless. they love the trappings of powers but despise the responsibilities that comes with it. Having said that, i still cant see an international coalition in the trouble spots around us. Other than France, its really counter productive bringing in these coalition and their secret Santa.

    Should Cameroon fall into chaos, we would have no choice but to become involved. just recalling the refugee crisis in Liberia and the way it affected every single ECOWAS country, would have to force us to directly intervene.

    Like i said before, forget EU, AU, UN and the USA. They all come with their baggage and in the long run, it will further weaken us as a viable economic power. When obj started pulling out from SRL in ’99, the USA did send some help, in the form of training and some little funds. And while Clinton initially thought OBJ was bluffing, he woke up to find our troops actually departing and he had to bring in the UN. We don’t want another UN in our backyard.

    Anything short of full fledged war ala Monrovia and Freetown, I don’t see the Americans paying for our full deployment. Of course this same idea was suggested by some people in 1996 at the height of the Monrovia turmoil. While Taylor’s forces and ULIMO K were trying to drive out ULIMO J and its leader Roosevelt Johnson out of town, the idea of withdrawing was toyed with, of course only as a leverage to get more goodies from the US. It was a well thought out plan, and with hindsight I believe it could have worked, at least partially.

    Some even toyed with the idea of ‘reintroducing’ Johnson’s INPFL into the conflagration.
    However, given the reputation of the then regime and the sanctions placed on us, the Americans would probably have contributed differently by channelling aid directly to ECOMOG forces in Liberia rather than through AHQ in Lagos.

    Unfortunately, domestic politics was distracting the key policy makers, as such, the idea only remained just that, an idea

    As for Chad, you cant compare a leader with so much bush fighting mentality and experience to our leaders that could only be called specialists in ballot stuffing and mago mago politics. Idriss Deby and his predecessor, Hissene Habre where rebels and bush fighters.Most of these guerrilla leaders are quite good with headstrong gunboat politicking.

    Just take a look around, from Museveni, to Kagame, to Deby, and even the latest one, Salva Kiir.
    At least John Garang was not only gifted with military tactics, he was also a skilled negotiator and had a diplomatic and humanitarian face. The likes of Salva Kiir were busy fighting in the bush throughout. It is the only reason you can have a president sack his vice president and his entire cabinet without even trying to bend a little.

    It is painful that Nigerians are left stranded in CAR. but you should know that there’s nothing new here. In the heat of the Liberian Civil War, when Taylor was specifically targeting Nigerians (over IBB support of Doe) in Monrovia and the countryside, ‘Vice President’ Aikhomu reportedly said, ‘who sent them there’. He said it was no business of the Fed Govt to evacuate Nigerians in a foreign country.

    Fast forward to a decade later, some Nigerians where reportedly selling their slots to non Nigerians in 2003 Liberian War. Of course, this shouldn’t be an excuse for irresponsible leadership, but there is actually nothing strange. In fact, it would have been strange had the FG sent a Charlie C130 to pick these Nigerians at the first sign of trouble.

    Would touch on the other points you highlighted later in the day.

    Seasons Greetings

  68. peccavi says:

    Because our government doesn’t care does not mean we shouldn’t. In fact I consider it a fundamental duty of a citizen to hold their government to account, thus if we do not make noise about the abandonment of our citizens in CAR then we are as culpable as the government. Rather than it being ‘normal’ for the FGN to ignore its citizens by whatever means we can, we should make sure that the new ‘normal’ is that they are in touch with the needs of the people.
    The use of coalitions as I have listed is that they pay for the operations. Our needs are great and pressing and we cannot devote a ever larger proportion of our budget to security and defence at the detriment of development.
    At the same time we need the international communities support in order to get international legal cover for our actions. If Cameroun goes the way of Mali, it becomes out problem. We have not sorted ourselves out and you want us to carry this problem on our heads, whatever and which ever baggage they come with no be we go say yes or no? Did the Biafrans not charge the very charities that were sustaining them with food during the civil war, landing fees and licencing fees? Does Hamid Karzai not dictate to NATO how to use airstrikes and special forces and coalition troops, the very things that put and have kept him in power. If your neighbour calls you to help him farm and you go wearing your Christmas dress, na who be the mumu?

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