NIGERIAN AIR FORCE REDEPLOY SENIOR OFFICERS…BRANCH CHIEFS, AOC AND DIRECTORS AFFECTED

NAF Mi-35P(front,30mm cannons on right side) and Mi-24V(behind, 23mm cannons in the nose)

NAF Mi-35P(front,30mm cannons on right side) and Mi-24V(behind, 23mm cannons in the nose)

VANGUARD
January 06, 2014
By KINGSLEY OMONOBI
ABUJA

The Nigerian Air Force, NAF, has made some new appointments, with Air
Vice Marshal S. B. Abubakar emerging as the new Air Officer Commanding, AOC, Training Command, Kaduna, while his predecessor, Air Vice Marshal I. Umar moves to Defence Headquarters as Chief of Policy and Plans. Air Vice Marshal, T. A. Adokwu is
moved to Air Force Institute of
Technology as Commandant, while Air
Vice Marshal H. R. Mohammed replaces him as Chief of Aircraft Engineering, Headquarters, NAF.

AVM A. I. Shehu takes charge as the new Chief of Standards and Evaluation at the Air Force Headquarters with AVM J. M. Gbum replacing him as Deputy Chief of Defence Intelligence, Defence Intelligence Agency.

Air Vice Marshal A. G. Idowu is Director of Research and Development, DHQ, F. B. Nyoyoko, Director, Electronic Warfare, Defence Headquarters, DHQ; M. M. Maisaka, Director, Medical Training Operations, DHQ, while A. A. Zannah takes charge of the newly established Air Warfare Centre, Kainji.

Also, AVM B. C. Nweze moves to Nigerian Defence Academy as the Deputy Commandant, just as AVMs M. A. Mohammed and L. S. Alao were
appointed as Directors of NAF
Transformation and Logistics and T. V. Udoh is the new Director, Technical
Services, Defence Intelligence Agency,
DIA.

A statement by NAF Director of
Information, Air Commodore Yusuf Anas, noted that the reorganisation also resulted in the appointment of Air Commodore J. B. Adigun as Chairman, Military Pensions Board while Air Commodore K. G. Lar becomes the Secretary, National Defence College.

Other newly appointed Directors at the NAF Headquarters include Air
Commodores H. C. Ifezue, Director of
Regiment, P. C. Ugwueke, Director,
Provost Services, M. A. Soladoye, Director, ICT, M. R. Dabo, Director, Finance and Accounts, M. A.Muhammad, Director Legal Services, among others.

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98 Responses to NIGERIAN AIR FORCE REDEPLOY SENIOR OFFICERS…BRANCH CHIEFS, AOC AND DIRECTORS AFFECTED

  1. Yagazie says:

    ‘Re-arranging deckchairs on the Titanic whilst its sinking’ – the CAS should be removed – period. No amount of re-deployment of airforce personnel can hide the fact that he is incompetent and should go in the interest of our NAF.

    Could those better versed in Airforce matters please tell me the difference between the (i presume) former Air Weapons School in Kainji and the newly established Air Warfare Centre also in Kainji

  2. WachanGuy says:

    Before making any comment, Happy New Year to my fellow Beegz bloggers. I pray 2014 will be the year that MoD and the Presidency begin to see the importance of strengthening and modernising our Forces. I just listened to a BBC report about how our beloved Naija alongside Mexico, Indonesia and Turkey could be the next powerhouses of the global economy if certain criteria are met. One of the unmentioned criteria was military strength, which just a cursory glance at the list of countries shows that we are seriously lacking in as compared to these “contemporaries” of ours.
    There is an analogy I use to explain the importance of national defence to my friends and family who are not militarily inclined, and this is the protection banks give their money. Fierce looking and heavily armed policemen(soldiers in some cases) are used globally to protect large amounts of cash in transit. So, scaling that model up, it is easy to see the importance of defence to a country like Nigeria with its vast natural and financial wealth. Hence, I fail to understand why our politicos don’t see what a university student like myself can see, unless it is deliberate inaction with a view towards the 2015 elections and the benefits a weak military will bring to unscrupulous political elements!
    Our brass hats (specifically NAF) are not helping with their all-correct attitude. How does an Air Force Base come under insurgent attack to the point of aircraft (grounded or not) being set ablaze and the CAS hasn’t deemed it fit to hold a public inquiry, or better still resign? Need I mention the continued operation of the Alpha Jet and F7-NI “Widowmakers” as our sole front line fighters in bare bone quantities, or the gradual and continuous transformation of NAF into a business jet operating airline.

    This shameful state of affairs needs to be corrected immediately, either by the current CAS or his successor. Personally, I would rather see him honourably retired from service and replaced by an officer who understands the needs and requirements of the NAF as a whole, not just the PAF! This is imperative because of the importance of air power to the resolution of modern conflicts and also to ensure a stable polity for the conduct of next year’s presidential elections. As much as I dislike the reality of the situation, heading into an election year with an ongoing insurgency on the scale of BH is akin to sitting on a keg of fused gunpowder. All it needs in one careless match and the rest, as they say,is history. I don talk my own oo. Abuja, do una own oo. Over and out

  3. drag_on says:

    They can polish the blade all they like,it is useless if it aint sharp, we don’t have precision strike capable assets.We don’t have BVR capable fighters,and most of the regional powers are acquiring it.Our Air-force can’t defend our Navy,they have no AshM capable Air assets. Yet our ‘wasted jaguars’ are capable of firing nukes,anti-ship missiles and precision guided munitions.The indians are making the Jaguar BVR capable now.We need platforms that maintain the ‘Force’ in Air-force.The maritime surveyour is a bright spark though.BTW, is our air-force capable of navigation in the featureless sea that is the Gulf of Guinea?

    • WachanGuy says:

      @Oga Drag_on let’s forget the Jaguars.They have been out of service too long to be economically upgraded, never mind the huge cost of retraining crews for the aircraft as that capability has certainly degraded over the years. All before considering the conditions attached to the sale of the aircraft to us.
      They should, in my opinion be sold to the Indians as spares(if they are compatible and if BAe allows it) and replaced with newer, more modern BVR capable fighters like the Su-30, Su-35, J-10 or even the Mig-29 seeing as these aircraft will come unencumbered with potential future problems regarding spare parts supplies and crew training, plus the added advantage of lower purchase and operating costs than competing Western models like the FA-18 Hornet or the Gripen.

      • drag_on says:

        My Oga it is just that it, (the jaguars) is a needle in the eye as long as we refuse to get another platform that can do its job.I obviously prefer a 4th Gen Aircraft but none is forth coming. If we can’t get su25s,su27s or jf-17 then give the indians our jaguars let them cannibalise 7 for spares to reactivate 5 because(and this is a fact) they are the most capable air assets we have. After-all,our Navy are reactivating helios as old as our Jags.We are losing 40,000 barrels of oil a day,approx 2 su35’s/month because we cant defend our oil interest, and we are in knots about air-assets? If we had Navalised Jets patrolling our EEZ with recon pods will we be losing so much oil?. Air power dictates conflicts and diplomacy in the world today and for some reason our top brass can’t see that. Most of West-Africa is at peace today because of Nigerian interests. As a West-African rebel group, you must calculate Nigeria in your war-mongering. This is what our Army brings to the table diplomatically. Their would be greater peace in Africa,if our Air-force could go where our Army can’t.We know AQIM funds and equips boko-haram through their Nigerien arm,but do we have the jets to recon and precision strike them,while we have Nigerien good-will?
        If i have said something un-true i subject myself to correction.

    • doziex says:

      @drag on, you are on point sir.

      • WachanGuy says:

        @Drag_on on point sir, although I respectfully disagree about the Jags still. Your recommendation is a good idea, but we need to remember they will be the only birds of their type in the world bar Indian and Omani (~20) examples and this rarity will definitely make such plans too expensive for under a half squadron of aircraft.

  4. drag_on says:

    Seems as if the jf-17 now has a block2.

    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif performed the inauguration of the manufacturing of Block 2 of JF-17 at Pakistan Aeronautical Complex in the town of Kamra.
    Block 2 jets come with air-to-air refuelling capability, improved avionics, enhanced load carrying capacity, better weapon carriage and enhanced data link and electronic warfare capabilities.
    The aircraft costs around $20-25 million apiece, compared to Block 1 which costs about $15m.
    The Kamra production facility has been reconfigured for the production of the new version.
    Production of Block 2 is expected to continue till 2016 after which manufacture of Block 3 is planned which may have new engine and different weaponry.

    http://www.dawn.com/news/1075055/production-of-improved-version-of-jf-17-aircraft-launched

  5. doziex says:

    I am just wondering how long it would take for NAF to pull the trigger on a fighter jet purchase ?

    Exactly what are they waiting for ?

    If it’s the sino pak jets, let’s get on with it.

    Sudan has recently purchased SU-24 fencers from Russian used stocks. It is cheap, carries a heavy payload, and has a long range.
    This long distance heavy bomber can suffice in an environment without many interceptors.

    With it, NAF can strike BH foreign hideouts at will, in devastating fashion.

    The chief of air staff should make a decision one way or the other.
    ANY ONE STATING THAT THE STATUS QUO IS SUFFICIENT IS FLAT OUT INCOMPETENT AND UNFIT FOR ANY COMMAND POSITION.

  6. Yagazie says:

    Oga Doziex, with all due respect to you- please stop hitting your head against a brick wall. The sad fact is that we have an INCOMPETENT CAS who believes that the F-7 is a morden fighter aircraft. Does he even know what an SU-24 looks like? The truth is that until the current CAS is retired and a competent and dynamic CAS (preferably a former combat/fighter pilot) appointed, the NAF will continue to suffer the effects of poor leadership.

    The present CAS can continue with cosmetic tinkering ( such as the re-deployment of officers, commsioning Nigerian built UAVs and setting up an Air Warfare Centre) but unless the airforce purchases proper 4G fighter aircraft and combat helicopters in sufficient numbers, he will be wasting his time.

    You can see the improvements in the Navy and Army as a result of the able, incisive and dynamic leadership from Vice-Admiral Ezeoba and Lt. Gen. Ihejirika respectively. It’s a shame that what is supposed to be the most technical /sosphisticated arm of our millitary is being let down so badly by its current service chief.

  7. rka says:

    I will fall off my chair if we ever order the JF-17 or any other multi-role platform. What we are likely to see, as has always been the case with Nigeria, is more F-7s as attrition replacement and to form another squadron.

    It is unfortunately the way the NFA (NAF) does things.

  8. rka says:

    My Ogas, I came upon this article which breaks down procurement for the 3 services for 2014 and it seems we are in line for 6 MI-36M helicopters (whoopee!).

    “The Nigerian Air Force is allocated the sum of N286.4 million for the procurement of MI-34/35 helicopters, N1.8 billion for the purchase of six MI-35M helicopters, N1.5 billion for the maintenance of Alpha jets, while the quick response force will purchase equipment worth N301 million.
    In the same vein, the Air Force will renovate its arctic L-39ZA AC for N1.3 billion and maintain the super puma for N324.5 million.”
    http://dailytrust.info/index.php/news/12849-govt-to-spend-billions-on-weapons

    • Are James says:

      Having studied the defence budget breakdown for the last 4 years, i would take these figures from Daily Trust with a pinch of salt. A lot of the figures don’t make sense and some figures have been repeated from last years approved budget proposals, half of which were not implemented anyway.
      The current defence budget proposal for 2004 is actually available as a.pdf file on the web which interestingly enough cannot be opened ..and understandably so.
      Generally, i would expect that 75% of all procurement for this year to be financed by special provisioning outside the published defence budget

  9. jimmy says:

    oga rka
    before you fall out of your chair let us wait on oga xnur to confirm this
    Nigeria has THREE KNIVES ( SPEARS) in the armory two of them are sharp. The last spear will not pierce through butter.
    If a pig is washed clean and made to wear clothes does IS IT STILL NOT A PIG?
    TRANSLATION : The f-7 may have been upgraded it is still a a flying coffin. The pig in the room is n not just the flying coffin but the inability of the CAS to leverage his relationship with the president to get anything substantial. This is one of the main reasons why he needs to resign.The second reason why he needs to resign is He is Nigeria’s version of” David Howell Petraeus AO is a retired American military officer and public official. He served as Director of the Central Intelligence Agency from September 6, 2011, until his resignation on November 9, 2012. …” SEE WIKI
    This guy was book smart and rewrote the books of coin ops in both AFGHAN and IRAQ, His detractors and peers in the army whom he leap frogged in terms of rapid promotions said this about him” his lack of personal combat experience and COMBAT LEADERSHIP under fire will be his unraveling”. He was fired/ asked to resign just as he became the head of the CIA for exercising extremely poor judgement in having an affair with a married woman.
    No one is accusing the CAS of doing that his extremely poor judgement comes from no real public discipline of the officers involved in the debacle at the air base @ Maiduguri. His poor choice of words and judgement comes in the belief maybe because he has never had to fly an alpha jet” into the valley of the shadow of death in Sierra Leone/ LIBERIA ( AND PLEASE FORGIVE ME IF I AM WRONG) diving bombing and strafing a rebel column. that is why he believes all is well. Maybe he views it as being okay for the NAF to show up approximately two to three hours LATE after AN AIR FORCE BASE is fire bombed which out side of Lagos / Markudi/ Port Harcourt is the most sensitive AIR FORCE BASE IN NIGERIA. Extreme poor judgement is the BAD sheep of the family next to SOUND SHARP JUDGEMENT
    Nigeria needs to procure NOW sound planes that are dual fighters to protect her her own vital assets not to BRAG , and this guy the current CAS is not capable of DOING THAT .

  10. rka says:

    Oga jimmy, you said it all. If I was the CAS and the attack on the airbase happened on my watch, I would be too ashamed to show my face.

    I really am willing to fall out of my chair as many times as necessary if the CAS pulls his finger out and confirms an order for multi-role fighters.

    I am hoping the article on procurement I pasted above about the Mi-35M is not a misprint of the Mi-17 Terminators we are expecting.

  11. beegeagle says:

    Thanks for that heartwarming insert, Oga RKA.

    So for 2013, we shall get three Mi-35P and six Mi-171Sh Terminator and for 2014, six units of Mi-35M. The Mi-35M is probably the most modern Hind variant in the field. Brazil operate that variant.

    The great thing is that the Mi-171Sh assault helicopter and the Mi-35M share a common feature – drastically curbed heat signatures which make them much harder for heat-seeking missiles to bring down.

    • asorockweb says:

      Oga Beegs,
      2013 is in the past.
      So, DID we get the 3x gunships, and 6x utility choppers?🙂

      happy new year

      • beegeagle says:

        The transaction was done in 2013. The deliveries can still come this year – same way a Shaldag acquired under FY 2012 was commissioned 19 Nov 2013.

        I suspect though that they have been delivered because the CAS has been talking about more assets than what was damaged at MDGR having been delivered.

        To be sure, this would be the first time that Mi-35Ms have been mentioned in Nigeria. We first took delivery of six Mi-35P from Russia in 2000, then a mix of Mi-24V and Mi-35P from Ukraine in 2008 and a pair of Mi-35P from Belarus in 2010.

        We have a story concerning a Nigerian bidding round for Mi-171Sh on this blog while SIPRI logs show that four Mi-171Sh Terminator were delivered in 2003.

  12. WachanGuy says:

    My ogas, have we already taken delivery of any Mi-171Sh Terminators?

    • Are James says:

      Why are we in denial about what did not happen with these choppers?. Let me put it out clearly :
      NIGERIA DID NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING AS COMBAT ASSETS FOR THE AIRFORCE IN 2013.

  13. beegeagle says:

    Mi-35M (note the difference where the exhaust fumes are discharged)

    Mi-171Sh

    Mi-24 Hind (notice the gaping exhaust vent?)

  14. asorockweb says:

    The personal attack on the CAS has gone beyond the pale.

    I completely agree with the people that blame him for the Maiduguri debacle – there is no greater security threat than BH and the Maiduguri airbase should have been safe guarded by air force infantry.

    But, we can’t blame him for his own appointment, even if he is from the transport branch of the air force or from GEJ’s village.
    We can’t blame him for the lack of purchase or delivery of new platforms – Nigeria’s contracts and projects dealings are filled with intrigue.

    We can’t blame him for not using the 109 LUHs as gunships – it might not be the correct decision.

    Also, those of us the blame the Finance minister for not funding the armed forces are misguided.

    The federal lawmakers decide who gets what, in terms of the federal budget. That’s why they keep 12% of it for themselves.
    Also, the states will fight to keep their share of the revenue – BH kills thousands, but water-borne diseases kills hundreds’ of thousands.

  15. gbash10 says:

    My prayer is that the President should appoint a new CAS to be a fighter pilot,a Liberian/S. Leonean civil war veteran that has seen real battle. My suggestion here should be AVM Oguntoyibo that took our boys to Mali.Please any other name you think fulfill these criteria would be welcome ooo! No more presidential fleet transport pilots for CAS again in the NAF.

    Air Marshal Wuyep acquired the nonsense F-7NI Airguard, a transport pilot. Umar and Badeh are also transport pilots. Air Chief Marshals Dike and Petinrin as fighter pilots,with their intellect failed to formulate an Air Power Doctrine for the NAF to be used in the 21st Century.

    Everything that has been happening in the NAF from the few procurements to deployment in war zones all happened by accident. NAF HQ only tend to be reactive to situations as they occur without actually knowing what challanges could be encountered out there!

    New plans and way of thinking is what we want the new crop of generals in NAF. A high technology service like the NAF with the best brains should have known how to protect their vital assets in a war zone!

  16. Yagazie says:

    Asorockweb, firstly the finance minister is not being critisized for not funding the armed forces. She is being slated for the non release of funds already approved by the National Assembly for the military’s capital projects as and when due. Secondly the attacks on the CAS are not personal. In any other civilized country, the mere fact that an airforce base had been attacked and insurgents had entered the airbase and destroyed airframes (inactive or not) would have resulted in the Airforce Chief tendering his letter of resignation. Okay so the current CAS is a transport jockey. However he was once the AOC of the Training Command and as such should have an idea of the platforms required by the NAF. He compounds the dire situation that exists by presenting to the President that all is well with the airfroce when clearly this is not the case. You say that Nigeria’s defence acuisitions and project dealings are full of intrigues -true. However the COAS and CNS also operate in the same enviroment and we can all see their achievements. Defend the incompetent CAS if you must but please be factual.

    • asorockweb says:

      I can also point to the huge, gaping holes in the “achievements” of the other branches of the military.
      I will not go down that route.
      I will just repeat your own words: Please be factual.

  17. Henry says:

    I’m sorry to say, but to be honest, there have been too many shallow comments on this blog over the past 3 days.

    It is imperative to understand how politics /politicking works on individual country basis. We cannot lump issues together and claim because, it is done in this country or that country then nigeria must follow same. Are our individual pecularities and thinking the same?

    Angola is rumoured to have purchased a spanish carrier, so nigeria leaders are incompetent for not following suit. Angola is now the progressive while nigeria the backwater who doesn’t think about the future. The way I see it the incompetent/ inept nation is angola. How is it progressive for a country to move from few fishing trawlers/ vessels to an air-craft carrier?

    Now, bloggers have entered the CAS, do we also blame him for the recent attack on a NATO in afghanistan? We call figures on this blog and I wonder whether some of us are oblivious of the daunting challenges facing us. Is the president going to fund the military at the expense of the east-west highway or alamajiri education or the revival of our growing manufacturing Now, bloggers have entered the CAS, do we also blame him for the recent attack on a NATO in afghanistan? We call figures on this blog and I wonder whether some of us are oblivious of the daunting challenges facing us. Is the president going to fund the military at the expense of the east-west highway or alamajiri education or the revival of our growing manufacturing Now, bloggers have entered the CAS, do we also blame him for the recent attack on a NATO in afghanistan? We call figures on this blog and I wonder whether some of us are oblivious of the daunting challenges facing us. Is the president going to fund the military at the expense of the east-west highway or alamajiri education or the revival of our growing manufacturing Now, bloggers have entered the CAS, do we also blame him for the recent attack on a NATO in afghanistan? We call figures on this blog and I wonder whether some of us are oblivious of the daunting challenges facing us. Is the president going to fund the military at the expense of the east-west highway or alamajiri education or the revival of our growing manufacturing sector?

    There are competing demands in nigeria, and our service chiefs do not have a blank check to spend as they so desire. They can only work wit

    • Are James says:

      This is a good post that bridles with realism and a lot of common sense. However, the key word here FUNCTIONALITY. Think of a nation state as a house. What has that ‘house’ been built on since the dawn of history?…the answer is military power. Up till 3 months ago Nigeria was bleeding 400, 000 barrels a day from oil theft primarily due to lack of air surveillance platforms. All the money you need for Almajiri education was right in there. It was just a reality that we needed at least 6 planes in the air every day over the gulf of guinea. Recall that MEND had the audacity to attack the 250,000 barrel Bonga platform a few years ago. Every devt. Is built on a foundation of security.
      So let me shock you with some figures:
      For every 4th gen combat aircraft you possess, a direct reduction in 500 ground troops is possible and the savings in recurrent expenditure can only be imagined. So the thesis here is that we intensify the acquisition of aerospace and technology based defence assets whilst holding army strength steady at around 200000 men.
      I think the air force should be the main focus of our capital expenditure outlay in the next three years.
      We need a CAS who can articulate that value proposition to the presidency and the legislature the same way the Navy did it just a few years ago to the applause of all Nigerians.

    • doziex says:

      Angola saw fit to use their oil money to purchase some very viable ships from the Spanish navy.
      How many times has beegeagle posted used ships from, germany, china, italy, south Korea and some others, imploring our authorities to jump on these deals, and bolster the number of ships in our anemic navy ?
      So we do nothing, and angola does inspite of it’s own corrupt leadership.

      I guess I should have sent a congratulatory note to our visionary and innovative brass.

  18. G8T Nigeria says:

    I agree with you Henry, I know we all feel bad about the attack at NAF Base Maiduguri but I advice we stop requesting for the resignation of the CAS. The military authorities could view it differently. My only area of concern is the Base commander which I believe will be taken care of. I also believe the Air force is in capable hands. A lot has been achieved and I remember one of us here had placed the NAF second in terms of purposeful leadership. Local refit programmes have being initiated couple with the current drive in research and development. The CAS has reorganised the NAF fleet, redeployed some assets strategically. Activities at AFIT is even more intense. We have seen NAF robot, Rocket Pods, AMEBO 2 and 3, GULMA UAV in just a short while. The CAS did initiate collaborations with universities and enhance relationship with NIMASA and some other agencies. Redundant airframes are being fixed in phases.
    We all want to see procurement of new combat platforms not only refit refit refit of 1970 jets but lets be patient. The only new info is that of the super Tucano but somehow we have heard of many others too. I have set a target of 2015, either we hear of a contract for the procurement of fighter aircrafts or deliveries of same.

  19. menatti says:

    The Commander in Maiduguri has been replaced already. I wonder why some people are making their attacks personal.

    • jimmy says:

      OGA MENATTI, OGA ASO ROCK, MUCH RESPECT FOR YOUR COMMENTS
      i am putting my personal integrity on the line as to why these attacks seem personal please correct me if any of the points listed are non factual.
      1.The CAS has gone on record as saying the f-7 is GREAT PLANE( Most sino nations including the pakistanis avoid flying them for anything important.
      2. At a time when the country is fighting a full blown insurgenct the NAF was the last of the services during the declared state of emergency to move more guships from PortH- arcort to the East.
      3 THere are two debacles that lay firmly at the naf door DUMATURU where the lack of AIR STRIKES led to bh taking over the a4 highway from cameroon to Nigeria ( yes this happened)
      4 The debacle at the maiduguri base happened
      5 .The NAF is underutilised not talent wise but in procurement wise at a time a raging insurgency is going on the the chief is saying the naf is overutilised meaning all is well no need to procure anymore aircraft at a time when aicraft should be able to fly from sokoto to maiduguri in less than 30 minutes re-fuel and be back within the hour for another punishing strike this did not happen until last week AND BY GOD LOOK WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THE NAF SHOWED UP EARLY
      6.THE COAS and the CN have asked for more funds …….. wait a minute the finance chief who is in control of all finance transactions in the army asked for more funds…… the FOC OF THE WESTERN COMMAND as late as NOVEMBER ASKED FOR MORE FUNDS AND GUESS WHAT ? THEY GOT MORE FUNDS.
      7.Nobody has a personal dislike for madam but she has been recorded on video stating how she cuts the military funds more dammning is not even that. The NSA in a interview given in the TRIBUNE ( DEC) STATED HOW NSA FUNDS that have been legally allocated by those same lawmakers was not transacted ( given ) until late into the third quarter.
      8 The money like oga doziex said is there it is not being used …… but being held so how come the fg wrote a check to the asuu for how much in just one day?was the national embarrasment worth it.
      9″.I would care less what his background is. His problem is not his background, not whether he is from the SAME VILLAGE as GEJ, his problem is one of a lack of guts, and a lack of vision to outline what the naf needs to do” .THOSE ARE MY WORDS i stand by them, please explain to me the vision of the NAF becase right now i really do not know.
      10 Please mark this down GEJ IS A POLITICAN HE WILL SACRIFICE THE CHIEF when the time is right just like he did the gentle giant GEN AZAZI ( R.I.P.) ..
      For now i will hold my powder out of respect to all my ogas oga beegs , doziex aso rock yagazie are james etc.

      • menatti says:

        Please Oga Jimmy, you said “The CAS has gone on record as saying the f-7 is GREAT PLANE” Do you have a link to where he said that?
        You talk about procurement like its supposed to happen overnight. What exactly has the Nigerian Army procured with all the money they get? Do you even live in Nigeria? Have you been to Maiduguri, you talk about the Air Force base being attacked wasn’t the army barracks in Bama attacked a few days later and ammo was stolen. I don’t hear you talking about that.

        As for the vision of the Air Force leadership
        “To transform the NAF into a self-reliant and highly professional fighting force through the application of innovative technology in fulfilment of national defence and security objectives.” The Gulma UAV is a prime example. Did you ever pause and ask why the Isreali drones that were purchased a few yrs ago for the Air Force aren’t flying?

        Self Reliance is the key. Arms procurement doesn’t happen overnight. Everyone here talks about buying Suhkoi etc. Even if the Air force pays for them today when will they get delivered? Do you know how long it’ll take to train the pilots?

        Like Asorock said, there are intrigues when it comes to purchasing planes or arms for that matter. There are always going to be selfish interests i.e the F7, UAV’s etc.
        You say the FOC of the western naval command asked for more funds and they got more funds. Do you have proof to back that up?

        Also I read about people here talking about the close relationship between the president and the CAS. Please can you elaborate further so we can all be enlightened?

  20. ugobassey says:

    Hi Guys, I am new to this blog. Angola what!! a Carrier. What are they going to do with it? turn it into a fishing vessel? Having said that though if it is true I think it’s a treat NN should take seriously.

  21. gbash10 says:

    Oga Jimmy,calm down,you have made your point.Please with all the achievements the CAS has made which are very beautiful,the singular attack and destruction of air assets at NAF base Maiduguri by Boko Haram insurgents has overshadowed all his achievements.Somebody had to take responsibility for ‘negligence and nothing go happen attitude’,
    the base commander,the commander of NAF Regiment at the base and ….. made that happened.
    Oga asorock,menatti and G8t Nigeria we understand your perspective,however,nothing can change the fact about the NAF Base Maiduguri,yes it did happened during the tenure of the current CAS,if any of you tend to be a senior officer in the NAF,you should drop that old-school attitude that rules NAF leadership,we are a different generation of Nigerians,the NAF should be the SWORD,SPEAR and ARROW of our Armed Forces to project and protect our Foreign and National interest,the first-line of DEFENCE!
    It is already time for change.

  22. jimmy says:

    OGA MENATTI
    much respect for your comments much as i wanted to put this to rest i will answer some of your questions. Some because of the highly sensitive nature of them you will have to read between the lines.
    ANSWER TO QUESTION 1 I .do not have the link to where he said the f-7 is a great plane however A.M Alex Badeh was asked on the performance of the f-7 and this was a recent as the last f-7 crashing and the Entire fleet being grounded.this is ALSO WHAT HE SAID ALL IS WELL WITH AIRFORCE There is no need for procurement.
    What the Nigerian ARMY has gotten recently with their procurement is better fitting bullet vests both manufactured at home and abroad, THEY ALSO RECENTLY PROCURED BETTER APC S THAN THIN SKINNED HILUX TOYOTA THAT WILL SAVE LIVES, NVGS , RPGS MORTARS ROCKETS MISSILES THAT ARE BEING USED IN Maiduguri that is what the army got , they shouted long enough to get a production line for their Igirigi AND IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS SORRY MAKE THAN 2 THE FIRST MAIN BATTLE TANK WILL BE MANUFACTURED IN Nigeria.that is just a slice of what they got. When an army base is attacked as in BAMA owning to the precedent whereby two highly placed 2 STAR GENERAL WERE RETIRED MAJ GEN ISAH AND OWOWONIBI THE ARMY BASE COMMANDER AT BAMA knows he is counting his days.
    Yes i live in NIGERIA and out side Nigeria and from time to time i spend in Nigeria I also spend an awful time reading and understanding what is really going on.
    ARMS PROCUREMENT depends on what is being ordered AND WHAT RELATIONSHIP EXISTS BETWEEN BOTH THE SELLER NATION AND THE BUYER NATION AND ALSO THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE BUYER NATION.
    if the NAF orders the SUKHOI today , IT WILL TAKE THE RUSKIES less than a year to manufacture, ship, crate and fly on one ot their jumbo cargo plane Antonov to NIGERIA. it will take an experienced Nigeria pilot who is conversant with RUSSIAN air technology 1 YEAR TO FLY THE BARE BONES MODEL. 3 years to get to the more complex model .The fallacy that arms procurement do not happen overnight please stop it . THE DAY ABACHA DIED , Abubakar took over and within 48 hours the prime minister of BRITAIN was announcing how he was resuming WEAPON SALES TO NIGERIA.
    We turned to ISRAEL due to the incessant foot dragging of the u.s @The height of the Niger delta insurgency up till then no one had heard of a ship called the shaldag except people in the NAVY, overnight NAVY SAILORS WERE SHIPPED TO HAIFA AND WERE TRAINED.
    @ THE HEIGHT OF THE CIVIL war AMERICA refused to sell the fg weapons BRITAIN HAD RUN OUT WEAPONS TO SELL. NIGERIA overnight turned to Russia they crated their MIGS and also shipped their 155 mm ARTY PIECES TO NIGERIA.
    THE NAVY IS GETTING MORE FUNDS GO TO THEIR web page see what their most senior officers are doing both at home ( second brand new ship, brand new 10,000 dwt new dockyard , 2 opv ONE COMING WITHIN THREE TO SIX MONTHS THE OTHER TO BE FINISHED HERE),And abroad.The navy also has a crucial Senator who asked aloud in the senate whether the navy can walk on water. .Conversley SOME SENATOR BELIEVE WE STILL FLYING MIGS THIS IS A FACT, GUESS WHO IS GETTING THE MONEY?
    Again it is not personal i would jump for jump for joy the day all F-7 are grounded AND A THREE YEAR IS ANNOUNCED HOW the naf is going to build their first plane AND I DON’T MEAN THE BEETLE..
    Everybody whether it is the army , navy, airforce looks out for their selfish needs because they are under extreme pressure which involves life and death decisions to perform. the CAS WAS NOT ONLY PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM BUT THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF HIS BACKGROUND WHICH GOES BACK TO YARADUA TO GEJ THAT RELATIONSHIP HAS NOT BEEN LEVERAGED IN SHAPE OF FORM THAT HAS BEEN MEANINGFUL IN TERMS OF HARD CORE PROCUREMENT

  23. jimmy says:

    Sorry i meant some senator actually believed we still flying MIGS.

  24. menatti says:

    Im quite confused by your answer.
    “ANSWER TO QUESTION 1. I do not have the link to where he said the f-7 is a great plane however A.M Alex Badeh was asked on the performance of the f-7 and this was a recent as the last f-7 crashing and the entire fleet being grounded. This is ALSO WHAT HE SAID ALL IS WELL WITH AIRFORCE There is no need for procurement.” He wasn’t CAS when 3 F7’s crashed so I’m not sure where you got that from.

    The Army barracks in Bama was attacked, I didn’t hear you saying the COAS should be retired. Before the terrorists attacked the Air Force detachment in Maiduguri they went through the Army artillery unit there, I didn’t hear anyone say the COAS should retire. When they bombed jaji no one said he should retire, when they bombed the Mammy market near a cantonment, I don’t remember anyone saying the COAS should retire which is why I think some of your attacks are personal.

    Another thing that confused me was this
    “the CAS WAS NOT ONLY PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION TEAM BUT THAT IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF HIS BACKGROUND WHICH GOES BACK TO YARADUA TO GEJ THAT RELATIONSHIP HAS NOT BEEN LEVERAGED IN SHAPE OF FORM THAT HAS BEEN MEANINGFUL IN TERMS OF HARDCORE PROCUREMENT” Are you saying this is why you concluded that the present CAS is close to the president?

    If you read his bio on the Air Force website you would see that “From June 2002 to October 2004, he was appointed Commander Presidential Air Fleet.” I recall Obasanjo was president then and he left the Presidential Fleet in 2004 so how did you manage to get to your conclusion?

    As for the Igirigi, if you tell me whether it has been deployed to the field, I will stand corrected.

  25. gbash10 says:

    @oga Menatti, with all due respect sir, calm down ooo, Please o, are you saying if the NAF should place order for Sukhoi fighter jets, it would take more than a year for the jets to be delivered? How about leasing 2-4 jets pending when the brand-new would arrive?

    The Indian Air Force, IAF did that when they first acquired their Jaguar jets. The first batch of IAF pilots that were sent to the UK, 4-8 pilots completed their training within 6 to 12 months. One among them became the IAF Chief of Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Neik Brown, I do not know whether he is still the IAF CAS.

    So how long will it take to convert our F-7 pilots to fly sukhoi jets?I do not think the Ugandan,Algerian,Ethiopian,Eritrean and Angolan pilots flying Sukhoi fighter jets have higher IQs than our F-7 pilots, national pride and patriotism aside! Oga Menatti we no de carry in front of outsiders ooo!

    Lastly sir, you mentioned intrigues in purchasing planes or arms,my question,what is the function of NAF Air Council?

    Oga Beeg,when the Ethiopians ordered their Sukhoi jets,how long did it take Rosoboronexport to deliver the planes sir?

    • menatti says:

      I’m not in the air force so if i said what i thought the function of the Air Force council was i’d be lying. As for the training of pilots, I happen to be a commercial pilot and i have been at it for quite a while so i can tell you it will take a while and before that i was an instructor pilot. Its not just flying the planes, what about weapons training etc and even those weapons cost a pretty penny. Are you aware that when they procured the F7 they sent pilots to china and quite a number of them barely made it, in any case it took about 8 months to train them. I know because i have a few class mates of mine who are in the air force now. In any case I know that in Nigeria the purchase of Airplanes for the air force is always an issue because our politicians are forever pushing to get their preferred brokers for selfish reasons. See the case of the air beetles or the F7.
      I know the Air force right now is training about 40 pilots in total. Some @ Ilorin and some in the USA and they keep sending more for training, This is quite significant for the NAF . Also if you look at the recent posting of officers it looks like the commander of the 205 Rotary Groupis now a group captain. The last commander was an AVM, The air force has been starved for years and now as they get younger pilots you would have fewer Generals flying and the younger chaps doing what they were meant to do(take more risks) just kidding. I fly into yola regularly and It gladdens my heart to see young flying officers and flt lt’s flying the alpha’s and theres an ATR there that flies Recon missions too and quite regularly if i might add.. The Nigerian Air Force is changing for the better. I don’t think the Air force leadership is just sitting on their hands and not trying to get more equipment. Someone put up a link to this yrs budget proposal and hopefully they should be getting some goodies this soon. This years budget leads me to think that the FG might be taking Procurement for the air force more seriously (close r/ship between the CAS and GEJ @ work maybe?) pun intended🙂

      • doziex says:

        Oga menatti, thanks for sharing some inside info with us. That is something that is we are severely lacking in our discuss about our military.

        However, no matter how encouraging changes in the NAF maybe, we have to measure it against the yard stick of what other air forces are doing. Our peers especially.

        It gives us a more realistic measure of progress.

    • beegeagle says:

      In 1998, the EtAF placed a US$160 million order for eight factory-refurbished Su-27s. They were delivered in 60 DAYS.

      As for the recent haul of eighteen used Su-30K by Angola, they were delivered just as swiftly

  26. ifiok umoeka says:

    @ wachanguy, I agree with u on the Jags but pls let’s steer clear of the mig 29 except we’re talking of the Mig 35 or @ least the Indian navy 29 variant! 2ndly non of those birds u mentioned have a lower cost of operation than the western bird (especially the gripen) although the single engine J10 should naturally use less fuel at least (then again, the engines are not in the same category!)
    @ asorockweb, 4 ones (how I loath them) out of this. They debate on what figures the give them and that is the responsibility of the president, his finance and security team! If the president and the people around him assess security as ‘pressingly’ important, no one will tell him 2 prioritize it! And we can in a few weeks introduce platforms that will change the game immediately! Infact, few days! Remember the Ethiopian-Eritrean war and how both side introduced flankers and fulcrums in days (and yes the needed 2 use mercs then until they had their pilots trained up)! Same can apply 2 us! The problem is that we haven’t learned our lessons on how to take serious things seriously!
    As for the CAS, I have deliberately steered clear of the debate but like I said, if he said that he needs no help and all is well, then we get 2 judge him using the same parameters as others. No matter how innovative u are and u can’t see an emergency as one the I must questn ur state of mind! Security issues are treated with dispatch. Even if u want 2 be seen as supportive of the gov, why not use the well versed response of other…’We thank the gov for the support we have but if we are given more resourses, we will do a better job’. Now, that is a lot more sensible to than all is well!
    As an aside, ‘IF’ we are not using the Israeli uavs because we want to be self reliant and wait for the amebo, (it actually is the amebo and the name change was calculated to redirect attention from the air base attack – and it seems 2 be working… 2 an extent) when we have a crisis @ hand then, we are dumber than I thought!
    As for the rest, I think Ogas Jimmy, Are James and Mighty Yagz are handling themselves pretty well! Cheers

    • menatti says:

      ” As an aside, ‘IF’ we are not using the Israeli uavs because we want to be self reliant and wait for the amebo, (it actually is the amebo and the name change was calculated to redirect attention from the air base attack – and it seems 2 be working… 2 an extent) when we have a crisis @ hand then, we are dumber than I thought!” Why so cynical?
      I think the best person to answer why they arent using the isreali drones will be one of th guys from AFIT but as i was made to understand, the isreali drones are not serviceable and the isreali’s asked for an obscene about of money to reactivate them. Also i heard they asked for an equally ridiculous amout of money to train the uav pilots soo the air force decided to train them locally. We’ll see how that works out.

  27. ifiok umoeka says:

    So we wait 4 the amebo to get mature right? Is Israel the only UAV maker? Aren’t there others using that tech that we can compare note?
    Then again, u just shot down someone’s cite of the Igirigi as not in production (an the amebo is in the same boat)! The test of great or even good leadership is what u do when the chips are down and u have kobo in ur back pocket! Again if we ground a fairly new asset when we need it the most on grounds of complex foolishness,corruption(how were there UAVs acquired) and incompetence instead of thinking out creative solutions, then like I said, we are dumber than I thought!
    By the way, I didn’t ask for a citation of ur source, I took it @ face value (perhaps learning something new) and dealt with the issue!

    • menatti says:

      As i said, the guys from AFIT could probably give a better answer about the Isreali UAV. I was just saying what i heard about the UAV coz like i said “as i was made to understand”.

  28. ifiok umoeka says:

    My brother menatii, I’ve been accused(in a subtle way) of being a CAS supporter by the great Beegz himself on the ‘optimizing the 109’ tread (I’m not), but my general rule has been that u judge a man’s work by what u give him 2 do the job taking for granted that he is properly skilled for the job in the 1st place. That said, I believe that being answerable 2 his C-in-C would also mean that he present him with options vis the resources available and be prepared 2 argue for his option when the time comes! But the problem is that we’ve not SEEN that (though we can’t say that he hasn’t DONE that either)! Oga Beegz has told us what we can get with $10, 20 and even 200mn but ours have been playing ostrich! I stand 2 be corrected but if we had @ least prepared for the NE operations with a minimum of 12 assault and 8 attack asset, proper surveillance assets and a rudimentary command and control structure, the BH matter would have been solved 2 a long extent! And would have saved lives and resources! Moreover, in the age we live in, we all know that the air force is the most important arm of the military and if its not positioned properly, the rest of the military structure suffers. No where than in the present security challenges is this truer!
    Finally, the buck will always stop with the leader and responsibility will always lie with him! Like I’ve been saying, the greatest responsibility lies with our commanders, especially the C-in-C if not anything, to make sure that those u send in harms way get the best tool u can afford! If u can’t do that, then give chance, perhaps someone else would!

    • menatti says:

      Well I’m not sure whats going on in the minds of the AF leadership but again i would think they’ve told the FG what their needs are. I’ve been told in the past once the issue of AC acquisition comes up some politician always hijacks in coz there’s a lot of money to be made. The issue of the Super Tucano’s ,T6, PC9 has been going on for years, a friend of mine in the air force was part of the evaluation team that went to look @ the Pilatus and even the previous CAS has tried to get newer planes but it never seems to happen.

      If you ask some air force officers in the Niger Delta they’ll tell you the Navy and Army get money from the oil companies and states but not the Air Force. You hear of Shell and the likes donating patrol boats to the navy and army but you never hear of them donating helos. I don’t think air power is appreciated in Nigeria even in the other armed services. The BH menace is changing that mentality albeit slowly.

      The young guys in Yola on the Alpha jets are getting more proficient daily with their targeting but a lot of improvement could be done with communication between the army and the air force imho but I digress.

      I am not partial to any service chief but I am partial to the Air Force given my career choice. You are actually not biased and have been fair in your criticism of the Air Force leadership but some pple here sha, na wa o, you would think they had something personal against the CAS although there’s a bit of misinformation on some threads and I’ll try to correct with what little information I can and i wish the Airforce would update their website and state exactly how many serviceable platforms they have. e’g only they have 4 AW 109s not 8-12 as stated somewhere on this blog. Only 2 serviceable C130’s and one more in the UK although i was told Lockheed Martin are giving them grief(something to do with proprietary info/knowledge and the people doing the maintenance asking for more money outside the signed contract), 1 serviceable G222. 1 serviceable Super Puma as the other one came back and then developed a major snag and had to be sent back to the people who did the TAM. Thats as much as I know for now but when I get my buddies around a few bottles I’ll get some more info.

      Anyway lets see what this year brings.

    • beegeagle says:

      LOL..that was not an indictment of your stance, Oga Ifiok. I was just trying to show to all, having asked for the CAS to be left alone, that he also has his supporters – which is good for achieving a balance in the slant of the comments here. He is a man in high office and people are bound to have a myriad of opinions on the way and manner in which he executes that high office.

      Thankfully, Oga Menatti has come in forcefully to state what he sees as the flip side of the story.

      As moderator, that is my duty to my compatriots…allowing all sides to the story to come to the fore since one is not affected one way or the other. Otherwise, if we were out to make a hang dog of the man, all ‘ayes’ would have been blotted out by deletion.

      If I had slagged off the bigman, dem go say na “hidden agenda” or “bad belle”. If I sang his praises, una go say “dem don settle Beegeagle”🙂

      That is the editor’s dilemma. Anyway, more power to the protagonists and antagonists alike. Water always finds its level.

  29. Henry says:

    I completely disagree with your assertion that one 4th GEN jet can lead to a direct reduction of 500 troops, ARE JAMES. The most competent intelligence comes from boots on the ground and not the eye in the sky.

    A country with so many daunting challenges like nigeria, requires a troop strength of not less than 250,000 well kitted troops. The procurement of even 50 4 GEN jets would still require a sizable army to get down and dirty. Our current troop strength is just over 100,000A country with so many daunting challenges like nigeria, requires a troop strength of not less than 250,000 well kitted troops. The procurement of even 50 4 GEN jets would still require a sizable army to get down and dirty. Our current troop strength is just over 100,000A country with so many daunting challenges like nigeria, requires a troop strength of not less than 250,000 well kitted troops. The procurement of even 50 4 GEN jets would still require a sizable army to get down and dirty. Our current troop strength is just over 100,000A country with so many daunting challenges like nigeria, requires a troop strength of not less than 250,000 well kitted troops. The procurement of even 50 4 GEN jets would still require a sizable army to get down and dirty. Our current troop strength is just over 100,000.

    We have a CAS who is doing as much as he can with the resources available to him. “Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown”. We blame him for the attack on the airforce base. Yes the buck stops with him, but do we know the details of the attack other than what have been feed by the papers? when we criticise people, it is important to also remember that we do not have 1/10 of the details at the disposal of the air-chief.

    We talk about equipments, do they come cheap? D

  30. Henry says:

    I completely disagree with your assertion that one 4th GEN jet can lead to a direct reduction of 500 troops, ARE JAMES. The most competent intelligence comes from boots on the ground and not the eye in the sky.

    A country with so many daunting challenges like Nigeria, requires a troop strength of not less than 250,000 well kitted troops. The procurement of even 50 4 GEN jets would still require a sizable army to get down and dirty. Our current troop strength is just over 100,000.

    We have a CAS who is doing as much as he can with the resources available to him. “Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown”. We blame him for the attack on the airforce base. Yes the buck stops with him, but do we know the details of the attack other than what have been feed by the papers? When we criticise people, it is important to also remember that we do not have 1/10 of the details at the disposal of the air-chief.

    We talk about equipment, do they come cheap? Do thermal equipment come cheap? The British Army JACKAL SPV that seats only 3 troops cost the british government £1.2 million a vehicle, is that cheap?

    When we make demands we should also remember to tailor them with the funds at the disposal of our various services.

    • Are James says:

      One 4th gen fighter = 500 boots on the ground.

      Scenario: BH fighters are encamped in ‘mountainous forests’ in NE Nigeria. In layman terms ‘thick forest on top mountain’. Every soldier’s nightmare.

      What do I need to flush them out?.
      If they are well dug in and they are about 2000 men, I would be stupid to send even a division up there without air support. It would be a massacre and people will be studying it for years in military schools. However think of four 4th generation fighter jets busy in the area with IR and other EO sensors busy day and night, sending real time info to a general somewhere who can build a model of the battle field. Think of the jets (upon receiving instructions) doing precision strikes with very high explosive bombs and rockets on concentrations of BH and their encampments and caves. Think of SFs being able to go in take out stuff and be quickly extracted. Then you find that the number of troops you need is just about a third of a division to do mop ups and secure the area.
      I concede that this formula does not work when you are dislodging fighters dug in within heavily built up areas but having sophisticated air assets provide the operational agility to respond better to battle field conditions, buy time to permit tactical re deployment and on the whole economise on the number of deployed ground troops.

  31. ifiok umoeka says:

    Hahaha! Oga Beegz, of course I didn’t take u seriously on that, was just trying to highlight to Menatti that sometime ur position may cause u 2 appear 2 be on one school of thought or another especially when u try 2 be as objective as possible!
    Oga Henry, equipment and troops are supposed 2 be complimentary not supplementary( except for robot soldiers in 2050 lol)! On the other hand, u know that increasing the no of the army by 50% invites for an overhead recurrent bill of 50% and u need 2 take look @ the capital allocation 2 the army vis that of recurrent expenditure! Except they will not have accommodation, health benefits for themselves and family, their kids will not go to school, they will not have equipments,insurance and will not have pension etc then why not just jack up the no 2 say 1mn! How about that! From day one, I’ve advocated 4 force multipliers, adequate training and a proper command system 2 be in place. We don’t need boots covering every inch of Nigeria neither can we have that (not if we are thinking quality), but we need 2 have those boots @ the right spot and @ the right time! If u ask me, I’d say that’s smarter and cheaper!

  32. ifiok umoeka says:

    @ Oga Heenry, No one asked 4 jackals as far as I can remember, but tokumbo MRAPs from SA storage while we invest in making ours!
    As 4 the 500 pairs of boot 2 one 4th gen MRCA, I don’t know how he arrived @ that figure but I’m sure that if u’d ask him, in explaining he would add that other assets need 2 be in place 2 complete the loop and that it would apply 2 certain scenarios!

  33. Yagazie says:

    Gentlemen,

    I confress that i am one of the current CAS’s most trenchant critics- however I asure you all that it is nothing personal as I don’t even know the guy!

    In any event I take on board the comments and views expressed on this blog by the likes of Ogas asorockweb, menatti, G8TNigeria and Henry. This is a great blog read by a lot of influential people worldwide and we are all priviledged to be able to post comments on this blog which are read by all. However with this priviledge also comes responsibilities and as such I will say no more on this issue other than to sincerely apologise to all my fellow cyber generals if it seemed that my attacks on the peformance of the current CAS were personal.

    So in conclusion , let’s simply watch this space and judge the current CAS by his achievements.

  34. cutievik says:

    Oga Menatti,it so glad to have someone of your humble profession grazing on this blog,this is what we always pray for that this great blog grows into “A basket of wisdom and answers”, where discussions,issues and blazing arguments are thrash out with facts from people well embedded with practical knowledge as they have been within d context of such profession,To this effect I humbly crave your indulgence to pull as many as the young pilots to this blog to contribute positively with like minds aimed towards d positive growth and developments of our armed forces and the Nation in general. Thanks

  35. doziex says:

    Hehehe, Nigerians seem to be allergic to criticism.

    Nnah, what kind yeye democracy be dis ?

    In the US, top flight generals are retired for adultery or running their mouth.
    But here, folk want to continue our tradition of singing the praises of our leaders whether they deserve it or not.
    With all due respect, I no dey for that one.
    I will sing the praises of our heroic leaders that dare to make a difference. As for the rest, it’s my prerogative to opine as I see fit.

  36. rka says:

    I don’t think there is anything wrong with constructive criticism and just because he is CAS doesn’t make him immune.

    My main angst has been the lack of urgency in procuring COIN assets. It is not as if we didn’t know about BH all these years, but there appears to have been no strategizing at all.

    I think we all understand how long it takes to train a fighter pilot to become proficient and yes it can take as long as 4 years in order to master the various combat skills like air to air, air to ground, interdiction etc.

    If the plan is to train the pilots up, good and well, but it won’t hurt to let Nigerians know what the plans are.

    We are now temporary members of the security council and it comes with responsibilities if we want to be taken serious in W Africa, Africa and the wolrd at large. You have got to be able to put your money, diplomacy, troops where your mouth is.

    The money lost to the nation every year to bunkering and other illegal activities runs in tens of billions of dollars.

    Properly equipping the services with the necessary naval, air and land assets would quickly cut back on this and the billions saved would then be ploughed into better infrastructure, health care, education etc., so please bleating about competing demands is a no brainer.

    @Oga menatti, can you please advise about the A190LUH and why you think there are only 4 in our inventory contrary to databases of world air forces?

  37. peccavi says:

    Oga Henry: na true you dey talk abeg in all respects. I don’t know anything about the current CAS and personally I think he should either resign, offer his resignation or at the very least promulgate a board of enquiry into the Maiduguri affair. It was a debacle, in the old days officers would have signed out their pistols and shot themselves.
    However whether we get the Starship Enterprise and the Death Star we will need a large infantry based army. That is the nature of our threats and the nature of our territory.
    People call for billions to be spent on shiny new toys as if Nigeria is a huge armed camp. There are priorities in Nigeria and those do not include defence, transport and security are vital parts of a national defence system, as are health and education. Germany, Russia, Sweden, Britain. infrastructure such as railways and roads were driven by a military imperative. Yet we think buying an MRAP will solve problems.
    The Airforce is in disarray because it does not seem to have an idea what it is doing. At least the Navy has a plan and the Army restructuring makes sense, but how has the Air force defined its role and how does it seek to implement it? Again like everything you need to analysis our threats and weaknesses and capabilities.
    Is the primary role of the air force, Air defence? Support of ground forces? Surveillance and recce? Transport and logistics?
    What is our air doctrine? Deep strike to neutralise enemy air power and ground forces far from the homeland, air defence through ground based systems or air defence through air superiority fighters? Close support using fast jets? Or helicopters? Use helicopters for tactical lift of troops or only for resupply?

    When we answer those questions we begin to understand and define our strategy and then look for how to resource it

    • asorockweb says:

      Well said.
      But I personally believe that the Death Star would be overkill.

    • asorockweb says:

      Reality.
      So, Oga Peccavi, what come first political necessity/vision/will OR military doctrine?

      • peccavi says:

        Death Stars always seem to come with convenient holes for the enemy so maybe we should hold off for now.
        Political vision should logically come first as doctrine should be defined by policy, if we have an aggressive, interventionist policy, be it peace keeping, peace support or using military force to resolve dispute then we need to gear up for long range expeditionary warfare, if we are purely defensive then range is less important that payload manoeuvrability etc. However the military can also drive things by defining their strategy and needs in the vacuum that unfortunately exists and then trying to shape the politicians to their will. I would suggest this is more likely to happen than a comprehensive security and defence policy

  38. beegeagle says:

    My personal observation of the NAF going back to the late 1980s when the late AVM Usman Natiti was the AOC Military Airlift Command and through the ECOMOG years/Bakassi Conflict suggests to me, based on the activities most consistently undertaken, the array of airframes acquired and their deployment, that the NAF are primarily concerned with

    – air defence
    – ground attack
    – transport and logistics

    As of that time, the NAF owned

    – 33 MiG 21MF/BiS
    – 24 Alpha Jet
    – 12 Aermacchi MB 339s
    – 24 L39 Albatros
    – 18 Jaguar jets
    – 9 C130/C130H-30
    – 5 G222s
    – about 24 Do-128-6/Do-228-212

    The NAF have always appeared poised for homeland defensive operations rather than for offensive/deep strike tasks. Back then and in even in our most strategic air corridor over Borno, it was an AIR DEFENCE wing equipped with MiG 21s which sufficed.

    Oga Peccavi, I do not know what you mean by “shiny toys”. There is nobody suggesting that healthcare and education should not be prioritised. Education continues to receive the biggest chunk of national resources even at the FG level. By the time you add the counterpart funding of same by the states and LGs, it probably dwarfs defence and security expenditure by seven times. My home state, and Rivers State too, consitently fork out over N100 bn naira (US$625 million) for education. Never mind the LGAs. So it is not nearly at token gesture at any level.

    The problem with most commentators is that they forget that Nigeria is a federation and that NATIONAL means FG+States+LGs whereas FEDERAL refers to the FG budget alone. So it was funky for clueless foreign journalists to say that a fifth of Nigeria’s 2012 national budget was spent on DEFSEC. That was a major gaffe.

    Yes, the FG spent US$6 bn of her US$31bn FEDERAL GOVT BUDGET on DEFSEC but that was only for a tier of government. Indeed, states and LGs spent US$55bn extra on roads, education, healthcare BUT NOT defence..which is the FG’s sole responsibility.

    Healthcare also gets major attention in the national scheme of things and the same pattern of FG/States/LG joint financing, being an expenditure head on the Concurrent Legislative List, suffices. You might want to look at the footprint of well-stocked Comprehensive Health Centres and General Hospitals put in place by state govts alone.

    Same goes for agriculture – funded joint by FG/States/LGs and where the Minister, Dr Adesina, is the star performer of this dispensation. Read up some additional stuff about the quiet revolution in our agriculture and its change agent. I want to believe that you are following developments on the ground as keenly.

    The funding of education and healthcare are not in dire straits.Sometimes, misapplication of funds, embezzlement and a lack of political will are what creates that impression.

    A few days ago, I drove through the rather horrendous Onitsha-Enugu expressway on my way to Enugu. On my way back, I used the so called ‘Old Road’ which was operable before the FG-owned expressway became operational in 1979. That Old Road, running all the way from Enugu through Udi to Oji River and on to Ugwuoba on the frontier between Enugu and Anambra States has been entirely resurfaced to the standards of an aircraft runway by Governor Sullivan Chime of Enugu, using the facility of a state budget which did not even peak at a modest N100 bn in any one year between 1999 and 2013. To make it as stark as possible, my own Delta State operated a N427 billion (US$2.75bn) budget in 2013.

    So how did Governor Chime, who is also resurfacing ‘Old Roads’ between Nsukka and Enugu, not to mention Achi to the state’s border near Umunze (in Anambra), achieve all that on such a tight budget? State of play.

    Well, the defence and security budgets are on the Exclusive Legislative List, funded by the FG ALONE. Why do you always make them appear to be the millstones around our quest for national development which they are not, given how much more goes to healthcare and education when the total national indices are collated?

    What is your gripe against MRAPs – even the UPDF use Casspir, GILA and Mamba types in Mogadishu as prescribed by their British and American trainers who came through Iraq and Afghanistan? Last I checked U.S JIEDDO stats for 2011-2012, the Nigerian Insurgency was the most IED-intensive in Africa?

    You often talk about threat perceptions shaping strategy and strategy shaping procurement. Fine..but could that be only the textbook dictum?

    You kind of raised alarm lately over Angola’s purported acquisition of an aircraft carrier. Well, Angola now own eighteen Su-30Ks which from their enclave of Cabinda, can attack Calabar and PHC and all our offshore oil installations.

    Well, Nigeria purportedly acquired Jaguar jets during the anti-apartheid struggle to counter the threat posed by racist South Africa to our offshore oilfields. SA are situated over 3,000 miles away at the nearest point whereas Angola’s Cabinda is barely 1,000 miles distant! Check out the distances and the reach of the deep strike beasts that are the Su-27/Su-30.

    South of Tamanrasset in Algeria, our NW border town of Illela in Sokoto is merely 850km to the south of Algeria. Algeria own Su-30s and MiG 29s. From our far NE border precincts, such as Ngala, El Geneina in West Darfur of Sudan is less than 950km to the east. Sudan own MiG 29s. They are not near enough or they are not poised aggressively enough as things stand or should we wait until it hits home like Angola? Well, Algeria and Sudan are situated much closer to our frontiers than are Angola. Check that out for veracity.

    Are you really suggesting that a pre-emptive posture for Nigeria is a no brainer or should we really wait until a clear and present danger emerges ala Angola and the purported aircraft carrier, then we can go into overdrive on the procurement front like you are suddenly suggesting that we do to counter the Angolan threat? How about the time necessary for training and mastering the ropes, an ill-affordable luxury when the danger manifests itself?

    Nigeria are frothing about Permanent Membership of the UNSC and you cannot see that it is not the perch for F7 operators? Look at all the aspiring members – Brazil (Gripen+frigates+subs), SA (Gripen+frigates+subs), India (Su-30s+destroyers+subs) and tell me that Nigeria have acted smartly in backing their aspirations with what the NAF currently operate. Noticed the timing of the Brazilian swoop on Gripen jets? We need to take ourselves seriously first if we want others to respect us for real.

    Good morning, gentlemen.

    • rka says:

      Well said Oga Beeg.

      • beegeagle says:

        Honestly, I think our threat perceptions have rested on faulty and inconsistent foundations for too long.

        That is why we see threats to national security 1,500km away in Monrovia but not in Angola whose enclave of Cabinda is not even that far away from Calabar. That is why we see the same thing in Freetown, nearly 2000 kms away but not in menacingly poised Algeria which is just 850km removed from our frontiers or Sudan which lies 950km away.

        We know our nextdoor terrestrial and /or maritime neighbours – Benin, Cameroon, Chad, Equato-Guinea, Niger and Sao Tome e Principe. Beyond these, which countries belong in our near-neighbourhood?

        If we choose to define our near neighbours as all the republics which are immediately behind our nextdoor neighbours, those would be Algeria, Togo, Gabon, Burkina Faso(whose easternmost districts are closer to us than all of Togo and lie less than 100 miles to the west of Kamba in NW Nigeria), Sudan and Mali.

        If , alternatively, we choose to define our “near neighbours” as all the countries which lie within 1,000 miles of our border, those would be Libya, Liberia, CIV, Congo Brazzaville, DR Congo (western flank+Kinshasa), Ghana, Chad, Central African Republic (which is only 400 miles removed from our borders), Algeria, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Togo, Gabon, Burkina Faso, Sudan and Mali.

        With the 3,500-4,000 km radius of the madly mighty Su-30/Su-27, perhaps we can see how exposed we really are.

        Mark my words, Chad shall soon reach for MiG 29s and we shall again enter into our usual “escapist mode” of burying our heads in the sand, rationalising the indefensible and HOPING that they do not have to use them.

    • drag_on says:

      oga beeg, na so o! If Sudan suddenly becomes our enemy,and they attack with Su27s’ what will we reply with? Our f-7s’ can just about defend home turf,but they cant go there. If we want to upgrade to sudans’ level, that is where our pants will be exposed.We don’t have trained pilots to fly su27s, as effectively as Sudan,that is where the National embarrassment of hiring Ukrainian pilots begin. People keep talking about how we can not afford second hand su27 jets while the navy are acquiring ships/reactivating helios and running them,the army is expanding the number of Divisions and introducing special forces.If we had an emergency tomorrow and another country was dropping bombs on us,who would be blamed? Who would be called inept?We ensure our security by making it know to our potential enemies that we have the capacity to strike back,and strike hard, if not they will keep meddling in our affairs.As the boys scouts say “Be prepared!” Let it be known,our airspace looks vulnerable even by African standards.

    • CHYDE says:

      Perfect Analysis

    • Are James says:

      Thank you very, very much for this post.

  39. beegeagle says:

    Concerning my belief that the NAF are primarily poised for point defence, ground attack and transport/logistics, from the April 1983 border conflict with Chad, to the ECOMOG operations in Liberia and Sierra Leone, to the air operations during the Bakassi Conflict with Cameroon (1993-2008), the Niger Delta Insurgency (2006-2010), the AFISMA deployment and the ongoing BH Insurgency, there is no other conclusion that one can arrive at except it is not from looking into these ponds that such a conclusion is premised on.

  40. peccavi says:

    Oga Beeg,
    The point of the post was not to thrash out how our budgets are delineated between the tiers of government. The point was to make it clear that defence and security is just one of the things the government has to worry about and that those other things such as transport, health and education also contribute to a nations defence but is a less obvious way.

    If that is the NAF’s doctrine as you described and that is how they have analysed and done their estimates to define their role in Nigerian defence then we should as a starting point either agree with and try and posit procurement around that doctrine, or disagree with the doctrine,define a new one, define a strategy and then resource it. That is infinitely better than the Angola has bought it, Uganda has bought it, so we must buy it school of though which seems to prevail.

    I have no problem with MRAPs, but again there must be a method to the madness, MRAPs are expensive, with expensive logisitcs chains and outside a COIN environment a little bit of an overkill. In a conventional war with defined lines, soft skin vehicles will suffice for troop transport and you would not use MRAPs against any reasonably competent or well equipped force in the attack. SO we need to define what are our strategic imperatives and needs and then resource for it. Nigeria has the most IEDs but what type? hand held, vehicle, suicide, roadside? That helps drive procurement requirements.
    As mentioned earlier Nigeria does not have any existential conventional threats, thus to my mind we need an Army that is geared up to maintain that status quo and also deal with our biggest threats which are internal.
    I believe this is done with an 8 division army, a strong reserve/ national guard element and a large Mobile Police Force.
    The Mobile police force I would equip with MRAPs mortars and light helis and use them exclusively for internal security/ COIN. In time of internal Crisis, the local MOPOL unit is reinforced by other MOPOL units and deals with the issue. Only if it gets out of hand does the army step in.
    The Nigerian divisons are based mainly on the borders with a strong reserve element so if there is a war we can massively up our numbers.
    I believe the Army needs an expeditionary role for peace support and war fighting, so we need a blue water Navy with Amphibious Assault ships and frigates and destroyers for Naval gun fire. and to defend our EEZ and coastline as well as internal waterways.
    The air forces main effort should be air defence, close air support and transport. So we need a fleet of multi role fighters as well as small COIN aircraft and helicopters, regionally based to support the Army and Navy.

    Now if this is my defence and securty doctrine I now can plan how I can resource it. That will be based on cost of units, training time, availability of spares, ammo, weapons, modifications needed to bases, operational cost (some planes cost $5000 and hour to fly some $20,000), technology transfer etc.

    The Angolan issue was an example of what happens in a policy bereft environment, people are crying the Angolans are our African brothers, Who dash you brother? No one is your friend we might not have enemies now but they might be one day, and you resource based on possibilities and probabilities.
    People struggled with my reasoning that if Angola successfully operates a carrier in the Gulf of Guinea it changes the balance of power and the perceptions of the balance of power. thus to counter it we need platform that can neutralise a carrier i.e. a sub. One sub is fairly pointless so we need 2. A massive capital and operational cost so the preferred choice would be to stop it happening in the first place.But the key overriding point is that the desired end state remains the same no matter what method is used to achieve it, maintain Nigerian dominance of the Gulf of Guinea.
    Likewise if our key military priority is deterring foreign attacks for example, we can do it through an aggressive deep strike capability so opponents know they will be bombed to smithereens if they try us, or a powerful army so they know they will be tied into an attritional war. A system of alliances so they know if they try us they will have sanctions and attacks from others. But again the key is that we fulfil that given military priority of deterring foreign attacks.

    So my point is without a strategy you cannot make sense of anything because you are just buying for buying sake

    This is not just a Nigerian problem, Britain is floundering because it has a defence strategy written by very stupid politicians who in the words of a friend ‘have decided because no one has stolen the TV to get rid of the front door’. We have no carriers yet one of our key tasks is to fight expeditionary wars. The Army is being cut and reserves boosted yet reserve recruitment is being done by an incompetent private company and no one has explained how the Reserves will be able to replace Regulars in the kind of small scale operations we have when previously a Reserve company would attach to a Regular battalion now they expect reserves to somehow do the battalions tasking.
    So political will drives strategy, strategy drives doctrine, doctrine drives procurement. Sometimes its the other way round procurement drives doctrine which then remoulds strategy but always in the context of military necessity

  41. ifiok umoeka says:

    Greetings sirs, I remember asking a questn a long while ago, when we acquired the jags, migs, alphas, charlies, pumas, meko 360, vickers, scorpions, T55 etc why did we acquire them, how long did we envisage that it would be in service, what plans did we have 2 replace them, when we got 2 replacing them, do we replace them item 4 item, do we go for more quality or quantity, if we do replace them quality or quantity wise, why, what are our present threats, what of our future threats, how long do we need 2 use them, how about maintenance and self reliance ???etc all these are questn we need 2 ask and ans!
    As 4 MRAPs, that’s a no brainer!

  42. beegeagle says:

    Okay then, Peccavi.

    The essence of driving home the point of how our national expenditure on DEFENCE and HEFI are variously financed is to show that defence is not and has never nearly been an albatross around our national quest for development. The stark NATIONAL total suggests that even for 2014, we are going to spend less than 3% of our budgets at ALL levels on defence and security. We spend many, many times more than that on health, education, food (agric) and infrastructure. China alone had project commitments worth US$28.5 bn in Nigeria as of July 2013 when GEJ went to China. China are the country with which we have our biggest defence contract as we speak – two OPVs valued at US$155m. How about that shameful mismatch for expenditure on infrastructure and defence?

    Our defence spending, in my books, does not in any way whatsoever represent a realistic figure given the long overdue imperative for the replacement of hardware systems and the enormity of our military commitments at this time. On the average, the HEFI sector is disproportionately at a clear and huge advantage.

    Even at that, our Constitution prescribes that the PRIMARY business of government is providing SECURITY for lives and property. It is unambiguous on that prescription yet the reality shows that we are in deficit across all strata of the chart as for as optimally providing for our forces goes.

    Personally, I reckon that our governments across all three tiers spend about US$90bn annually. If U$4.5 billion of that were committed to national defence, not least at a time like this, I would not raise a whimper because what you cannot achieve with US$85bn, you will not achieve with US$90bn either. After all, people pay 10% of their incomes as tithes and still house, feed, educate and provide healthcare for their families.

    In any case, I would not be surprised to learn that we are losing US$15bn annually to misapplication of funds and to kleptocrats. So defence expenditure was never and has not nearly been the problem. It was always too little and unworkable relative to our commitments and aspirations.

    All the big countries of the earth which we have a larger GDP than, many of which have fewer challenges to grapple with (eg Bangladesh) and most of which face very similar COIN challenges (Burma, Thailand, Colombia) retain the services of larger and better equipped armed forces. They had to part with money to be where they are today.

    Mek una lef defence abeg and find out how manage wey wata kari enta inside pumpkin🙂

    • asorockweb says:

      Security is the primary role of government. Agreed.
      I believe the key is political.
      How many of our lawmakers know where Cabinda is?
      Would they believe that the mere fact that Sokoto is within range of aircraft from Algeria means that we have to be ready for that eventuality?
      Would they consider drones from rich western nations overflying Nigeria a threat?
      When there’s an opportunity, both good and evil will try and take advantage of it.

    • doziex says:

      Round of applause……….Round of applause.

  43. drag_on says:

    It is the fire-brigade approach we always use.We have drop in oil revenues and MEND?! Ramp up the Navy.! We have Boko-haram bombings?! Ramp up the Army!! I guess we are waiting for reconnaissance flights by the U.S. and France, and the dropping of Military Hardware for Boko-haram in Nigeria by mercenaries before we do the same to the Air force. Yesterday alone on al-jazeera, i watched a documentary about how Senegal is losing about $5-$10 billion dollars a year from lost revenue due to illegal fishing by Russian,Spanish and Asian vessels. The size of these trawlers are massive.This reminded me of the Finance ministers defence of Navy procurement stating we had to defend our EEZ because we were losing billions to oil theft and illegal trawlers.
    Wherever there is a weakness in a Nations defenses it will be exploited by others,and they will even fight over its exploitation.It won’t be left alone. Do not doubt that many nations have reconnaissance flights over Nigeria.No nation has friends,only allies.To our North,South and East are more capable Air-Forces, those nations are not fools.If we have to Ground our Alphas and F-7s to replace it with updated Ukrainian su-27s. That is the way to go.

    • beegeagle says:

      That is why the NN’s soon-to-be-operational Fisheries Protection Squadron is a most welcome development. They shall be starting out with five 35 metre Sentinel MFPVs.

      The world’s richest fishing grounds mostly coincide with the areas of ocean where the warm and cold ocean currents meet, leading to an abundance of aquatic life on account of a rich supply of phytoplankton and zooplankton.

      Offshore the Nigeria-Cameroon-Equato Guinean maritime region, the cold Canary current from NW Africa and the warm Benguela current from Namibia, meet. Our waters are thus brimming with aquatic life.

      Senegal have gone into panic mode in their quest to ramp up midshore patrol assets within the limits of what they can afford. Last I checked, the following assets were on order;

      – Raidco Marine 33 metre long RPB 33

      – Raidco Marine 45 metre FPV

      – four 32 metre OCEA FPB 98Mk I

      – an ex-Spanish Navy 32 metre Conejera class patrol craft

      With these six small ships, they shall soon begin to make a dent in the pursuit of illegal fishmongers.

  44. peccavi says:

    Exactl my point, the firefighting, the window is broken lets patch window, there is a hole in the roof lets patch roof approach is silly. You end up with a force with ridiculously mismatched equipment and doctrines.
    If we spent 5% of our budget or 50% of the budget on defence but there was a clear reason and structure to it one would understand but we don’t seem to do things based on a plan.
    The Navy thing is again an illustration of the joined up approach to defence and security. Why are pirate attacks on the up? Because there are hundreds of ships at anchor or sailing around waiting to berth because of bottlenecks at the port so these ships are easy prey for pirates. So fixing the infrastructure with new ports or making the existing ports function properly reduces the number of potential victims for pirates. Problem reduced. Oil bunkering, prosecute oil bunkerers and seize their assets. It is alot cheaper and more effective than buying ships to sail round and round chasing people who can afford to lose a cargo a week because of all they are raking in

    • Are James says:

      More specifically, what is the ROI of having tens of military houseboats stationed in the Niger Delta and sailing Navy Shaldag boats & Army gunboats into creeks daily to counter oil theft. Its very expensive, corruption inducing and a root cause of 80% recurrent defence expenditure that is denying funds to buy hardware.
      Why not use surveillance choppers (or UAVs) to spot the pipeline hot tap points and then send in transport choppers go in with tools at night to destroy…. much cheaper, less corrupting and good training for our troops

      • jimmy says:

        Oga AreJames much respect for your comments. Surveillance whether high tech or low tech does not come close to monitoring the more than 3,000, lines snaking through the Niger delta added to that is the multi billion dollar offshore oil pumping staions some of which pump 250,000bpd.they have to be protected also need to be protected are the super oiltankers that load up from bonny. The fear of the shaldag and the stingray for the pirates that ply their trade is the beginning of wisdom. Prior to the navy acquiring some of these assets this area marine wise bigger than half of europe was a gangster’s paradise.Today this is not the case,still over fishing by illegal trawlers,kidnapping,piracy,gun running still goes on. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

  45. drag_on says:

    Oga peccavi, i understand where you are going, i use to tell friends i debate with about the economy,spend whatever money is required to make us a fully independent Nation devoid of unwanted external influence and interference from other nations,(this includes border security).Then spend on whatever is required to bring justice,law an order. Whatever is left is what we have to develop as a Nation.If we don’t do this, all we spend on education will go to another country (brain-drain).All we spend on health (this includes infrastructure like pipe-borne water) will be lost to violence. All we spend on infrastructure will be lost to (corruption). The function of the Federal Government is to protect its borders from external and internal aggressors at any cost.The issue of ports is a political issue that can be easily resolved.To put it quite succinctly, Lagos cannot be the only port for Goods and Services in Nigeria.

  46. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga Peccavi, we are not in any way disputing what u’re saying (my previous post as evidence), how ever the truth is that we don’t have any sensible policy (defense or otherwise) anywhere around! On the other hand, we have an issue that can’t wait till we draw up one, in fact if we wait, we may not have a nation to draw a policy for. An active insurgency in a crazy political environment isn’t just a keg of gun powder, its semtex, biohazardous materials and radioactive material in an enclosed environment! Its something we should have dealth with dispatch!
    When the west went 2 the wars in the middle east, they were not in any way prepared (except perhaps the UK with it long experience with northern Ireland) for a COIN operation! But the put 2gether a plan, policy and drew the necessary doctrine 2 deal with it! The got the tools the needed and practically wrote the rules as they went! Have they totally succeeded? Definitely not! Have they contained it, absolutely!
    Bottom line, as we put 2gether a vision and the requisite national policy 2 fund and achieve it , I think its only wise that we deal with the present threats in the north and south if not for anything, then 2 give us a breather 2 make the necessary moves 2 fix our messes!

    • peccavi says:

      Fair enough but I would strongly suggest that the failure to actually understand what they were doing in the Middle East led to the mess we ended up in

  47. ifiok umoeka says:

    The sudan doesn’t have flankers but fulcrums and fencers! Still a threat though!

  48. beegeagle says:

    Oga Asorock, if you actually use the latitudinal and longitudinal coordinates, you would find that between Cabinda Lat 5:00 South and Calabar (roughly Lat 5:00 N), it is actually no more than 750 miles; 850 miles to Bonny and 900 miles to PHC. The offshore oil facilities are even closer to Cabinda. Any Su-27/Su-30 can take out any targets within that arc and return to base on internal fuel. It is quite ridiculous to think about that.

    Personally, I doubt that the members of our Senate and House C’tees on Defence are getting any qualitative service from legilative aides who appear to be more of cronies than people with any technical awareness of the subject-matter. I doubt that they know that Algeria and Sudan are removed from our borders by only hundreds of miles and that they possess aircraft which can lap up a thousand miles ONE WAY.

    Ask our legislative aides which corps own 14 Bde, 22 Bde and 33 Bde and they would almost be clueless; ask them to name ten aircraft types in the NAF inventory..whossai; list five FOBs and seven different makes of platforms in NN service..no dice. In effect, they are not even familiar with the armed forces who they claim to provide legislative assistance in the interest of.

    But you can trust them to hang in there by fire and by force. That is why our country continues to be underserved.

  49. ifiok umoeka says:

    Someone said that a smart leader need not be the smartest man around but he who knows how to hire smart people! Now I don’t know who to hate on more, the dumb aides or the clueless legislooters who hired them in the first place!

  50. ifiok umoeka says:

    @ oga Peccavi, a quarter of the spanish Harrier jump jets are set 2 go on account of austerity!

  51. WachanGuy says:

    Fellow generals acquiring these (see link) as temporary lift till we can order more/replacements? I am aware of the shenanigans involved with Western purchases and the fact that NAF once tested and rejected the Chinook, but desperate times call for desperate measures methinks. http://www.theredstonerocket.com/tech_today/article_6169ab90-7878-11e3-a9aa-0019bb2963f4.html

  52. Are James says:

    I personally don’t like Chinooks, the twin rotors used to trip me years ago…. but now i don’t see a capability need that they can fill that would not be bettered by the Russian MI 17 machines.

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