EXERCISE OBANGAME 2014: “NIGERIAN NAVY SPECIAL FORCES WELL TRAINED, WELL EQUIPPED” – GERMAN NAVAL OFFICER ; SAYS POSSESS SKILLS SET UNAVAILABLE TO OTHER PARTICIPATING REGIONAL NAVIES

LAGOS, Nigeria (April 15, 2014) – U.S. and German service members discuss room-clearing tactics with Nigerian sailors (Special Boat Service commandos) during tactical moments drill at exercise Obangame Express 2014 (OE-14).

OE-14 is a Gulf of Guinea-based multinational maritime exercise designed to improve cooperation, interdiction expertise and information sharing among West and
Central African maritime forces in order to increase maritime safety and security in the region.

(U.S. Navy Photo by Mass Communication Specialist Seaman
Weston Jones/Released)

DEUTSCHE WELLE
Date 18.04.2014

Author Alexander Drechsel, Adrian Kriesch /jrb

Editor Sean Sinico

excerpts

A German officer whose name can’t be disclosed observes the scene. After 10 days of joint training, his initial doubts have largely disappeared.

Not only are the Nigerian boarding soldiers well trained, but Nigerian members of the Special Boat Service (SBS) are also well equipped. “Their boats, for instance, are powered by
250-PS motors,” he said. In these rubber dinghies, the SBS team members chase suspicious vessels in pursuit of oil thieves or pirates.

“This isn’t fun when it’s real,” one member of the SBS team said. The unit with about 200 soldiers is among the Nigerian (military)’s special forces.In the six years of its existence, the soldiers have boarded and
searched numerous boats.

Grateful for support

Other maritime units still lack this
experience, on the other hand, and are grateful for the practical support provided by German and the US teams. “Everything is fine; we came without anything but were equipped so that we can now search ships,” said one soldier from Ghana.

A colleague from Nigeria added: “We
have come together here to share
experiences – I really appreciate it.”

FURTHER READING

http://www.dw.de/germany-participates-in-west-african-naval-exercises/a-17577610

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  1. joe says:

    It is clear in the picture that the Nigerian service members are not all SBS, two of them have wings on thier shirt, which signifies that they are more than likely paratroopers, or something of that nature. and the other two have the SBS insignia.

    • Henry says:

      That is because they are parachutist. Nigerian navy SBS commandos also undergo airborne courses. The guys in the photos are all navy commandos.

  2. beegeagle says:

    Does not necessarily pan out that way. If you attend the 8-month SEAL course, the air component of same makes you a qualified parachutist.

    Commandos wear many stripes in sync with the number and scope of courses which they have attended.

    The only other possibility that I see is that they could be NAF QRF or NA SF commandos, who are also intensive on the paratroopers/airborne course.

    But these are most likely to be SBS commandos merely displaying their other badges of qualification.

    EXAMPLES

    STRIPES OF A NIGERIAN NAVY SBS COMMANDO

    https://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/07/19/nigerian-navy-special-boat-service-training-trajectory-and-stripes-of-a-commandoo/

    STRIPES OF A NIGERIAN ARMY SF COMMANDO

    http://www.beegeagle.wordpress.com/2012/11/29/world-exclusive-stripes-of-a-nigerian-army-special-forces-commando/

    To be sure, that ghoulish badge at the bottom as is sewn onto the sleeve of the Navy SBS officer is concurrently worn by many NA and NA special forces chaps alike. Yet those were the stripes of an SBS officer.

    • Joe says:

      sorry for my misinformation, it was because i saw this picture a few weeks ago
      http://postimg.org/image/9j81gd7t9/ and the guy with the woolen cap had the same insignia as this guy in the picture. And if i am not mistaken the picture was tagged as nigerian soldiers training with pakistan SSG or something like that

  3. Henry says:

    All thanks to Oga beeg we know how well trained and equipped our navy commandos are. This commendation from the german press is no surprise to those of us who were on the blog when Oga beeg first chronicled the unit.

    What an amazing week it was, back then in 2012.

  4. beegeagle says:

    Well, one is merely stating the obvious. The Nigerian Navy SBS commandos are by reputation, a crack unit – battle-hardened and well-recongnised for their professional worth. They pacified Okene in 2012 when terrorists tried to make nonsense of that large nodal town which links the north and south of Nigeria. I am also aware that they have been fighting in the Northeast since 2012 at the latest.

    Here is what the US NAVSCIATTS also had to say of the Nigerian Navy SBS

    QUOTE

    NIGERIAN NAVY SPECIAL BOAT SERVICE DESCRIBED AS “HIGHLY PROFESSIONAL, MATURE, TACTICALLY SKILLED AND
    RESTRAINED

    “We were very honored when asked to
    work with JMSTC as their personnel are
    primarily provided by the Nigerian Navy
    Special Boat Service, a group that is well-known for high levels of
    professionalism, tactical skill, and maturity as well as their use of restraint
    in complex situations,” said Cowan.

    https://beegeagle.wordpress.com/2013/08/04/u-s-navsciatts-nigerian-jsmtc-cooperate-on-tactical-riverine-operations-course-july-13-sept-6-6-patrol-boats-delivered-to-nigeria-nigerian-navy-special-boat-service-described-as-highly-profes/

    END

    MORE EXPLOITS BY THE SBS COMMANDOS

    http://www.beegeagle.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/nigerian-navy-kill-12-pirates-in-gun-battle-as-navy-dispatch-vessels-in-offshore-chase-thwart-attempt-at-hijacking-the-fuel-tanker-laden-with-17000-metric-tonnes-96527-barrels-of-product/

  5. Deewon says:

    Good day Gentlemen. Happy easter. I was just going through somethings now and I stumbled upon this. http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/turkey-donates-warship-to-fg-national-mirror.66329/

  6. Obix says:

    @Deewon, thanks for the news. But unfortunately no details on the ship is available yet. We know that aTurkish naval task force comprising of Frigates F-495 TCG Gediz and F-245 TCG Oruçreis are circumnavigating Africa with the corvette F-511 TCG Heybeliada and tanker A-595 TCG Yarbay Kudret Güngör and will take part in EXERCISE OBANGAME 2014. Oga Beag, any clues on the type of ship donated?

  7. beegeagle says:

    My measured guess is that it could be one of the 1,350 ton Burak-class corvettes which are on the cusp of being retired now.

    If it is a warship, that would be it. If the Shitta-Beys have anything to do with it, it would be a trifling speedboat.

    That is the reason why Turkey are in for Exercise Obangame for the first time. They have previously supplied Aryan 1300-series 13 metre patrol boats and in the deal for 204 Otokar Cobra APCs, they had their biggest sale to any African client ever.

    As the biggest African nation demographically and economically, a Turkey looking to make inroads like Brazil and China have, might just be motivated to donate one of those well-armed light frigates to a Nigeria which desperately needs oceangoing fighting ships.

    It underscores the need for the NN to explore all her options to the maximum. It is a crying shame that after 12 billion dollars worth of oil-related marine engineering and shipbuilding(super tankers) contracts entered into since 2000 with Korea, Nigeria could not get even three bare-hulled OPVs or a two used corvettes of Korea. It is nothing short of crazy.

    Ghana reportedly signed a contract for two 62 metre 500-ton OPVs valued at no more than US$75m but got a free ex-Korean 36 metre FAC to the bargain.

    Personally, I still do not understand how we signed a US$155 million deal for two P18N stealth OPVs plus another one on the expansion of naval shipbuilding facilities at PHC and could not get one used Type 53H2 frigate off the Chinese whereas they are offloading as many as 53 units to partner nations and to their coastguard. It is rather incredible. Countries such as Bangladesh and Burma have cashed in on that boon while even Egypt, Pakistan and Thailand who are a lot heavier on Western hardware systems all operate them.

    So what are we thinking really?

    • asorockweb says:

      “If the Shitta-Beys have anything to do with it, it would be a trifling speedboat.”

      I suspect it is a “trifling speedboat.”

      I have search the web for news on a gifted Turkish warship but the only sources are minor Nigerian newspapers.

      I can’t find any Turkish sources confirming the handover – it seems to be a publicity stunt.

  8. Henry says:

    Turkish participation for obangame contained 2 frigates, 1 corvette and 1 replenishement ship.

    In my opinion, I think the nigerian navy probably got one of the two frigates.

    The participating ships

    “The task force will contain the frigates F-495 TCG Gediz, F-245 TCG Oruçreis, the corvette F-511 TCG Heybeliada and the replenishment tanker A-595 TCG Yarbay Kudret Güngör.”

    1)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbaros-class_frigate

    2) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_A._Moore_(FFG-19)

    3)http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCG_Heybeliada_(F-511)

    My money is on the ex US navy frigate. In essence we got a 3rd hand frigate.

  9. ozed says:

    As they say half bread is better than none.

  10. buchi says:

    are u kidding me if so then my guess is that we have a new frigate then.and please why the differnce in insignia in the image.

  11. G8T Nigeria says:

    Wow, i wonder if warships are given away in such a manner as i read. If that ship was recieved by own naval forces then approval came from the FG.

  12. peccavi says:

    Off topic

    Analysis:
    Of bombs…: the VBIED that was detonated in Nyanya Motor Park was long in the coming and marks a good example of the dictum that the enemy needs to be lucky once and friendly forces need to be lucky all the time.
    There are several instructive things about the attack.
    Location: Nyanya is not in Abuja, it is a satellite town. The target itself was not a hardened government or military installation but an extremely soft target. That is rather difficult to secure, although to be honest it is not hard to completely redesign all Motor Parks to prevent VBIEDs gaining access. In other words despite the words and bluster, the enemy has still not yet managed to circumvent Abuja’s security apparatus. The other thing that is interesting about Nyanya is that it is close to both Southern Kaduna and Nasarawa States, areas that have seen an upsurge in armed activities
    Messaging: the claim of responsibility for this attack was almost instantaneous. One could even surmise that the video might have been made prior to the attack and then quickly mixed in with footage from the attack for release. However what is clear is that again Boko Haram’s messaging and media ops outperforms that of the authorities. In the week in which several Nigerian companies floated on the London Stock Exchange and Nigeria became the largest economy in Africa, the prevailing headline was ‘Car bomb in Nigerian Capital’. I doubt this was Boko Haram’s intent but it is an unfortunate coincidence, however the speed of the response corresponds with the theory that Boko Haram’s spectacular bomb attacks are essentially fund raising or PR campaigns.
    The use of Arabic possibly indicates that the target audience is in North Africa and the Middle East. There is still nothing in this video that can be interpreted as a negotiating position so one must conclude from the speed of the video release, the use of Arabic and the lack of an opening that Boko Haram is still planning and resourcing for a long campaign.
    The conclusion from this is that as much as force protection measures against obvious targets such as schools, motor parks etc are needed, a clever media counter offensive is required.
    … and boarders: somebody, somewhere thought it would be a very good idea to reopen a girls boarding school on the fringes of Sambisa Forest.
    Inevitably it didn’t end well for the students, an indeterminate number have been abducted (apparently almost a week after the attack no one can produce an accurate list of abductees) and by making a fairly catastrophic statement without carrying out the most basic verifications, the Military authorities have completely undermined their credibility.
    However there are several factors that favour the security forces
    • The enemy has ensconced themselves in Sambisa Forest Reserve. Despite the fact that it is vast, inhospitable terrain , it gives the security forces a finite area to target
    • Unconfirmed reports from returning searchers indicate they have been warned that the insurgents would kill them if they came closer, this demonstrates that not only is there a neutral civilian presence in the forests that can be exploited for information but also further narrows down the area in which the insurgents operate.
    • The enemy is mainly road bound, mounted in trucks, thus they will be based somewhere off the numerous tracks that snake through the forest.
    • Rainy season has started, thus the roads will be muddy, rivers will begin flowing restricting the enemies’ mobility.
    • The enemy has to transport, feed and guard alot of scared young girls. This reduces their mobility, resources, manpower and space.
    There are also several factors which do not favour the security forces
    • Hunters, parents and vigilantes have entered the forest to carry out a search. This would indicate that the forest has not been sealed off by the security forces and entry and exit is still possible by foot, motorcycle and vehicle.
    • There has been no communication that we know of from the hostage takers. What their terms will be is unclear but if a ransom or terms are demanded and complied with, it will encourage further attacks.
    • The insurgents have a very strong hand. They could break up into a series of small groups and spread out increasing the number of assaults that must be carried out simultaneously for a successful rescue or they could concentrate in a reinforced camp with the girls as human shields and resist any attempted attack. They have good local knowledge and are familiar with the terrain. They have a very emotive set of hostages for which most people will be willing to negotiate.
    • They have mobility provided by their vehicles, motorcycles and feet, with good cover from view provided by the forest.
    Hostage rescue is notoriously difficult for even the most sophisticated and experienced armed forces. A mass hostage rescue is even more dangerous.
    Rescuing small numbers of hostages by special forces such as the SAS or Navy Seals in relatively discrete, controlled environments has a patchy success rate.
    Rescuing large numbers of hostages such as in the Westgate Mall, Nairobi or in Beslan, the Moscow Theatre or the Budyonnovsk Hospital in Russia were all extremely costly in terms of hostages lives. Even the Moscow Theatre Siege which in reality was a well planned and well executed operation resulted in the deaths of 130 hostages after the operation ended.
    The most successful mass hostage rescue of recent times in comparable settings is Op. Barrass, the operation that freed a captured British patrol from the West Side Boys gunmen in a swampy Sierra Leonean jungle, that resulted in freeing 5 British soldiers, 1 Sierra Leonean soldier and 21 Sierra Leonean civilians for the cost of 1 hostage and 1 British soldier killed and 18 wounded.
    However the level of complexity and specific skill sets that made this operation possible from Signals intelligence, specialist recce troops, specialist assault troops, hostage negotiators, specialist lift and attack helicopters and pilots, advanced signals and surveillance resources etc and just as importantly the planning and logistics capability to bring all these moving parts together are not easily available.
    These are not skills that are developed overnight and most definitely should not be deployed ad hoc as the US experience with attempt to rescue the US hostages in Iran in 1979 shows.
    There are very few military scenarios one can think of in such terrain with such a large number of hostages and such nihilistic and ruthless that can have a high probability of success. It is in the best interest of all sides to negotiate a release of the hostages.

    • Are James says:

      Building on the foregoing, I would like to add the following:
      1. There may have been fear (or actual intelligence) coming into the BH camp of another wave of large scale attacks that would have been more far reaching and extensive than ever before, one capable of permanently destroying them as a military force for all time – this may have informed the need to grab hostages as a self protective measure,.
      Indeed the procurement by the NAF of more advanced platforms with higher ordinance delivery capacity and quality must have been viewed by BH with dread.
      2. It would not have taken a genius IQ to figure out that hostage taking was going to be one of the few remaining options open to the group. Given this, the State Gov’t. should be investigated as to why the decision was taken to call the poor children back to school to take exams that should have been arranged at state government’s expense elsewhere (the NE governors are sitting on unspent billions btw so the cost involved would have been negligible to them).
      3. The Nyanya Park bomb blast, as dastardly as it was may indeed have been just a distraction to divert security attention enough to permit the execution of this main objective – seizing the most fragile of hostages.
      4. The sad fact about Sambisa forest is that it is probably the most overflown, over-satellite -photoed, overmapped, over UAVed and over-debated piece of really estate in security circles in Nigeria yet a combination of ambivalent political leadership and a military constantly hoodwinking the CIC and the general public has led to a refusal to deliver the killer blow since 2010.
      Now the place has become a fortress and like the student who refused to prepare for exams weeks before, a crash program is now necessary..with probably even greater risks.
      5.There is a need to deploy into Cameroon right away -SSS, SFs, NIA agents should compliment regular Nigerian Army units in sealing off the other side of the border from inside Cameroon. This should hem in the insurgents and increase pressure to facilitate hard negotiations.
      6. The next moves are predictable; (i) proposal by BH for a trade of hostages for prisoners.-who are we holding that they want this badly? (ii) initial release of some hostages to whet our appetites. (iii) however the hostages negotiations go, the last persons to hear anything would be you and me.
      The war is being badly executed and badly led…..it is going to get really ugly in the coming weeks.
      People are putting their emotions into things, not letting their minds wander where they should and not asking the right questions.
      I once had a serious discussion with a knowledgeable colleague about the Nigerian situation and one interesting thing he had to say about Nigeria’s political leadership has always stuck in my head since then … “our problem is not just corruption but a lack of ‘exposure’ by people who have been voted into power”.
      So the Nigerian political office holder is a civil servants’ dream in terms of the way poor social services such (e.g defsec) being delivered to the Nigerian people are just accepted by political office holders without a challenge about value, effectiveness or quality.

    • asorockweb says:

      Thanks oga peccavi, for taking the time to write something substantial.

      But we haven’t established the simplest of facts: How many girls were kidnapped?

      The girls were only in the school to take exams.
      The number, 129 – came from the list of candidates for the last paper, physics, I believe.
      Some of those ran away when BH raid started, some may not have been in the dorms that night. Some escaped after the raid.

      Based on previous reports, BH a camp may have up to 100 insurgents in it – Op. Barrass is not a good example for our current scenario and I am not sure there is one.

      What will be of future interest is if the BH leader decides to pose with the girls. If he does, that will help establish his location, and I suspect, that will be his last video.

  13. Oje says:

    Many people do not realise Boko Haram is on the verge of complete defeat and nearing bankrupcy. Can the Chegdu J-7 be retrofitted to carry Napalm and Cluster munition? If so great. Get a couple of those, six J-7’s can turn the Sambisa forest into a Vietnam era napalm soup.

  14. peccavi says:

    Oga AreJames: I doubt the procurement news has had any effect on BH, they are operating at their own tempo, reacting as and when they need, there has been chatter of an attack on Abuja for months, they have finally managed to get through to a very soft taret, like I said, I believe its a fund raising video. Remember Shekau disappeared a while back, I suspect he has met AQIM and said look what we can do we are still able to target the centres of power.
    BH has been kidnapping for the past 3 years, alot of their funding has come from ransoms and protection rackets. However mass kidnapping is a rare and marks a new phase, lets see what is to come.
    Sambisa is a huge piece of real estate, a divisional task at least to clear it. however nothing being said is new. It should have been entered and cleared by now. this is why I advocate getting troops from outside the AO, training them up for a specific mission and then unleashing them. Once complete, bring in MOPOL to garrison the area. To be honest forget Cameroun for now. We do not have enough troops to clear the North East, much less the Middle Belt and the rest of the country before we talk of Cameroun.
    If it was down to me I’d have a dedicated task force with its own attack helicopters and aircraft, just 2 is enough, coupled with an SF company, that has small patrols along the border manning Observation posts that can bring down fire on BH convoys and force them to keep moving or using smaller size units. We do not have the forces to do anything intelligent or effective in Cameroun.
    @ Oga asorockweb:I don’t think Shekau is that stupid unless as I said they break the girls up and move them across the border. I too would dearly love to know who thought opening the school would be a good idea. If they had used it as bait and ambushed BH it would have made sense or even fortified the school but nothing.

    Oga Oje: Bombing Sambisa will not really do much, it takes a lot of bombs to carpet bomb an area, the only plane capable of that is the B 52, and even they could not stop the VC or NVA infiltrating SOuth Vietnam.
    The best equivalent would be a rolling artillery and rocket barrage from one end of the forest to the other, but allthat would do is kill the innocent peaceful natives and the hostages.

    BH is in a win win situation, if they are attacked the hostages die, if they are not they negotiate and get concessions, better to negotiate, get the hostages and the unleash hell

  15. Oje says:

    Oga Peccavi, Boko Haram is no wear near the capability of the Vietkong guerilla’s, you are talking about rag tagged brainwashed islamo thugs or mercenaries if you will. The Nigerian military has at its disposale arguably the most advanced remote intelligent gathering systems in SSA in the form of two high altitude surveillance aircrafts, 2 highly advanced remote sensing sattelite, 1 high resolution mapping satelite that can double as a spy sattelite, 2 commercial sattelite, one Isreali unmanned drone, 2 Gulma drones…… There is no country in Africa (including South Africa) with these assets at the disposal of the military, the Sambisa forest is very finite and no where near the thickness and vastness of the North Vietnamese jungle. Simultaneous bombardment from fighter jets and mobile artillery in a triangulated area is enough to make even the most hardened thug shit his pants. This will force them to move as you cannot sitout an artillery and aerial bombardment. Terrified, fleeing and in chaos they can be picked out by special forces and slower helicopter gunships and Alpha light attack aircrafts. Frankly speaking this is not rocket science. Let us employ Hitlers Blitzkreig strategy for once and see results.

    • Are James says:

      Concur with the effectiveness of air strikes and artillery barrages.
      In the artillery sphere at least no army is as skilled as the Nigeria Army artillery corps on the entire continent.
      The question is why we have left it so late until things are now more difficult with the hostages. Negotiation should be forced on the BH by hemming them in from all sides, if you don’t do this immediately and negotiate from that strength then i’m sorry the girls are gone forever. Married off to Islamic militants.

      If hemming them in is agreed way forward the only problem would be the terrain – forested mountains with hundreds of caves and you are the side that is climbing up to meet the enemy on the high ground in most cases. We are going to need thousands of boots on the ground with lots of back up from jets and combat helicopters.

      I still maintain we should have done this ‘homework’ years ago.

  16. Oje says:

    Oga James you are spot on, but I can assure you those girls are not in the Sambisa forest, you do realise that there are pockets of Special forces commandoes scouting the forest, keeping a hundred girls in the forest is too risky and a tactical liability as they are unstable and when frightened can easy give away enemy position. Encircle the Sambisa forest with a mixed unit of mobile police and infantry units to cut down fleeing insurgents. I have closely monitored their modus operandi and one thing is consistent, they rely on suprise and sheer numbers when carrying out attacks hence they attack loosely defended targets with numerically superior manpower. The military does not have to fight a stupid war of attrition with these guys. 24 hour round the clock artillery and aerial attacks will mess up with the mind of even Boko Yeye leader Sekau, the bulk of his fighters are just hungrey teenage kids. Americans are very good at phsycological warfare, Germans used it to great success in Europe – operation Barbarosa and Scorched Earth comes to mind, we can borrow a leaf from them and employ the same tactics.

  17. peccavi says:

    You’ve listed a veritable array of sexy items, all of which should give a first grade ISTAR capability, all of which begs the question, how come BH can move around in large convoys attack at will and withdraw in reasonable order?
    As has been said many times its not just about acquiring assets, its about how you use them.
    Even if the ISTAR assets are being used correctly how is the intelligence gathered being used?
    How is it being analysed collated, presented and used in the planning cycle?
    Do commanders know how to use or task the assets or how to use them to plan operations.

    This advocacy for bombing/ shelling the forest is interesting, does that mean you are willing to sacrifice the lives of the hostages?
    I’m not saying this in a negative way, because it is actually a valid military option. If you go in aggressively with overwhelming numbers and firepower, and kill most of the enemy, it teaches them that taking hostages has no benefit, it will also be a complete PR disaster and an act of significant barbarity and potentially a war crime.

    Jungle fighting or fighting in woods and forests are extremely difficult operations and manpower intensive.
    It would suck an entire division if dome properly and if the enemy is playing the game properly they can inflict heavy casualties upon the friendly forces.

    But come what may the forest needs to be cleared. And it has to be done properly, with blocking forces and sweeping forces. And it wont be done by drones or sattelites but by infantry.

    What DHQ should be doing is accurately mapping the forest and positioning troops at critical points where they can block the enemy and use constant fighting patrols and advances to contact to either force them to fight or push them into a position where they can be fixed and destroyed by fire.

    The BBc report is interesting but tells us what we already know, what we have been seeing for the past few months are mercs.
    The analysis in the thinkafrica piece makes sense but they are drawing a different conclusion. Boko Haram has had their urban networks destroyed and has repostured towards the rural areas, so it is a significant victory for the security forces in that they have defended the main populated areas and its the same point I made, they can’t get into Abuja hence the attack on a suburb, which is why the Nigerian media ops should have made sure that every report stating ‘an attack on the Nigerian capital’ was immediately rebutted.
    But the point is that they do not need to attack Abuja. They dominate the country side around Sambisa, Mandara/ Gwoza and Lake Chad. They can not threaten the seat of power but by making war on the people they are having just as significant an effect

  18. doziex says:

    Well my opinion is very well known.

    That is, until NA shows us different.

    As oga peccavi said, BH moving around in large convoys speaks of two opposing forces one NA the other BH, just launching attacks and counter attacks on each other.
    We have seen burnt out BH bases, but they have also shown us burnt out and captured NA vehicles and weaponry.

    Our spec ops in town should be able to ambush their convoys, just as they harass NA convoys.

    The issue of aerial and spatial orientation in this battle space is all out of whack.

    That is probably why artillery fire bases have not been utilized.

    A few tucanos if they are truly coming, would make a world of difference, as they can provide better aerial intelligence, and interdict these troublesome convoys that just show up at air bases, giwa barracks and at high schools.

    For now, the 2 sides have each other occupied in the NE, and this is after the new COAS have poured in units from across the country to relieve the 7th division.

    I don’t think we can afford to poor in more units into this disorganized meat grinder, until we have deliberately doubled or tripled the size of NA.

    General Ihejirika tried with his expansion, but in my opinion, it was not bold or audacious enough.

    Bold and Audacious, was what the NA forefathers did at the start of the Nigeria-biafran war.

    NA went from 10,000 men to 250,000 men. Arms were purchased from both the soviet and the western blocks.
    Advisers, pilots and the like were brought in to help were NA needed help.

    It’s like Nigeria gave Angola the blue print.

    Pilots from Egypt, south Africa flying NAF jets, and training NAF pilots.

    Yeah men my uncle, a biafran commander at the time, spoke of seeing the faces of some of these merc pilots as they flew low and unopposed looking for targets among the palm trees.

    I thought they were just war tales, until I saw the faces of NAF mig-21 pilots in Enugu circa 1981.

    • freeegulf says:

      bold and audacious ke. the NCW is a bad example to site. a war that could have been prosecuted to its deserved conclusion in less than 4 months, ended up as a 30
      months attrition warfare.

      i rather have a battalion of 900 properly equipped, well trained soldiers with core infantry and supporting elements, than a division of 12,000 poorly trained, poorly equipped with skeletal logistics

      yes, quantity is quality on its own. but logistics is so complex and a nightmare, that NA lines will crack under such pressure. the NA manpower strength should hover around 120k and should not exceed 150k, except in other cases.

      this is an operation other than war. 120K is about right for the task. raising troop strength comes with lots of fringes. the system always fare badly when it comes to support packages.

  19. Oje says:

    Well, for that kind of increment in size you need bomb attacks in Abuja, the national assembly, Abuja City center proper.. When the sit of power is threatened then believe me the government will stop this “police action” and move into a full time war mode. Boko Haram has been at this for 4 years now but for me living in Port Harcourt it could be happening in Syria for all I care. Like the rest of the world I only see this on TV and read about it on the internet. Nigeria has an active duty force of 150,000 men, 32,000 reservist and 180,000 paramiliary personnel: this is by far the largest armed forces in Sub Saharan Africa. Larger than the armies of all 16 Ecowas countries combined, three times that of South Africa. Boko Haram is not Biafra, they don’t number 20,000, we don’t need more men, what we need is more hardware and political will, maybe the success of the military to confine Boko Haram to the extremes of mountains and forests has made us all numb and complacent.

  20. Oje says:

    And we don’t need Tucanos, what the heck do we need Tucanos for in this era of 4th+ gen jets, we could as well but some P-51 Mustangs and Spitfires.

    • peccavi says:

      Oga Doziex: you still dey use style to promote your ‘foreign exchange’ programme!
      But I concur, the armed forces need to be expanded. Personally I would focus on expanding the police, mainly MOPOL and training them up to light infantry standard. This way once the crisis is over they can continue being useful as police officers.
      The difference between this and the civil war is that Biafra was a nation state with defined borders and conventional army. It had places and people it needed to defend thus it was fixed to conventional lines, making it an infinitely

      • peccavi says:

        (sorry pressed to early) easier conflict. In this case BH has nothing they need to defend other than themselves thus they can be anywhere and operate. Thus the main effort should be to restrict their freedom of movement which means more and more troops, in both fixed and mobile positions.
        Oga Oje: 4th gen jets are absolutely the worst platforms for this type of operation, in fact Mustangs and Spitfires are exactly what we need or more to the point, slow, well armoured, heavily armed aircraft with good range that can destroy small highly mobile targets

  21. ifiok umoeka says:

    I think we should first ask a 4gen bird is! Believe me, if u look @ it from outside alone, u will be deceived, try the cockpit or better, look under the skin. we do need the tucanos

  22. ifiok umoeka says:

    The tucanos will fall between the hinds and the alphas can stay airborne in theatre for hours which a copter can’t and can fly slowly which a typical jet can’t

  23. ifiok umoeka says:

    The question is how do you deploy it? The Brazilians used theirs within a system paired with drones and satellites. Perhaps we should expect that command center to be put to good use. in other words let the tucanos be airforce property under spec ops command. In my opinion we need two squadrons worth with spares for factor in attrition. then perhaps we should look at having Brazilian and colombian pilots for 3 months while ours get a crash course. I hope doziex is happy now. As for the mobile police, I’ve been asking about them for a while when i hear the ‘we should raise a 200/500k army’ argument. The truth is that we have too many soldiers doing what the police should be doing! Training and equipping the police right will free up the army. Moreover, even in the NE, there are situations that the police are best suited for. However, they need to be able to handle themselves whenever.

  24. ifiok umoeka says:

    That way we don’t waste money by demobilizing those we spent a lot to train

  25. Oje says:

    You know our airforce is nearing extinction when some people are actually of the view that 4th gen fighters are the worse platform. Does anyone notice how sucessful French 4th gen fighters were against Malian Islamic rebels? Hovering around a target with slow moving jet fighters is crazy, assault rifles and RPG’s can cause extensive damage to these fightes, moreso if Boko Haram gets hold of any standard anti aircraft guns you will see the futility of usinf front line fighters for low altitude straffing roles. These are the job of Helicopter gunships.

    The Nigerian airforce M series gunships body is heavily armored and can resist impacts from 12.7 rounds from all angles. If I am not mistaken there are 11 units in the NAF’s inventory. We don’t need the propeller Tucano’s. A time might arise where the Nigerian airspace is breached by enemy Supersonic fighters, with no interceptors what is NAF gonna scramble to intercept these bogeys, slow turboprop aircrafts? We need not be myopic but rather prepare for the future. Any airforce with subsonic plans as its primary attack/intercepor assets will be not last a week as they will be blown out of the skies.

    • peccavi says:

      Oga Oje you are mixing to issues, unless you think BH is about to deploy supersonic aircraft then I’m not sure what the latter part of your comment has to do with things.
      For close air support against light dismounted or mounted insurgent forces you need a Tucano or other slow, armoured aircraft that has the range and firepower
      Fast jet is literally fast, thus the pilot can has a very fleeting window to engage.
      Citing the French example is not accurate, first off the French were attacking a FIXED force, that had taken territory, had admin buildings, fuel and ammo dumps and other fixed structures.
      The French also had complete battlespace management and advanced targeting,
      When it broke into mobile warfare, it was ground fires, Tigers and Gazelles that were used in the main.
      The enemies main vehicle is a Toyota Hilus, which has the armoured capabilities of a wet piece of paper, thus you can use rockets, machine guns and cannons to destroy it, you don’t need a $20,000 laser guided bomb for that.

      Even the Alphajets are struggling, which again begs the problem of how resources are being used, this is why I keep asking if the drones are being used for artillery spotting/ fire control.
      To accurately use air dropped weapons you need to be guided onto targets. This can either be done by someone on the ground or someone in the air.
      I would suggest in the current situation the NAF try a combination of Helicopters and Alphakets or UAVs and Alphajets.
      The Oberver can be in the helicopter (maybe the Agustas, fast and unarmed) and direct the Alphajets onto the targetsor else better use of FOOs or FACs

      But in order to destroy a light mobile foe, you need something that can persist and destroy the enemy with equivalent weapons

  26. Obix says:

    “Why Navy needs better funding, by Naval chief”
    http://royaltimes.net/news/navy-needs-better-funding-naval-chief/ Now we also know that NNS Aradu is truly truly undergoing some refit!

  27. beegeagle says:

    Following on the heels of the purported donation of a warship to the NN by the Turkish Navy, I thought you would have noticed the following –

    * DINNER ONBOARD A TURKISH WARSHIP….the Naval Director MoD is unlikely to have had dinner on board the ships of all eleven participating non-African navies. So why THAT Turkish Navy ship in particular?

    * HE ASKED ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS of the ship…not really necessary unless you expect to be bearing those costs in a short while and need the stats for reckoning

    * THE SHIP is said to be comparable in size to the NNS THUNDER. It is therefore, almost certainly going to be the said ex-USN frigate, transferred to Turkey and possibly on its way to Nigeria. The corvette which I mentioned earlier on is not in Nigeria, so it is unlikely to be that.

    I suspect that, with the USA orchestrating things behind the scenes, the Nigerian Navy might be getting the TCG GEDIZ F495, an Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate.

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_A._Moore_(FFG-19)

  28. beegeagle says:

    I guess it is just another disjointed sneak preview of the shape of things to come. Personally, I no longer doubt that there is something brewing between the NN and the Turks. Here are my hunches in a nutshell

    – the said role of the MoD’s Navy Director in the unofficial assessment of operating costs of a Turkish warship which we do not own and as such, should not matter, majorly lends credence to the speculation.

    – the prominent role played by a hitherto unlikely Turkish Navy in EO 2014

    – the USA appear to want to substitute the USNS John McDonnell with something sterner, against the backdrop of complaints by Nigerian naval aficionados about the transfer of ‘stripped down’ vessels.

    – the US Govt might have become persuaded to do the needful because Nigeria have thus far made good with all the ships transferred to the NN..think the 1,041 ton NNS Kyanwa’s voyage to Brazil alongside NNS Aradu, the 1,041 ton NNS Nwamba’s role in the Joint Benin-Nigeria Anti-Piracy Task Group 11.1 and the recent voyage to Australia by NNS Thunder. The NN have proven their navigational prowess to the ends of the earth. Doubts have been cleared.

    – Turkey are stepping in to take away the expected moral burden of the transfer from the USA when spoilsport rabble rousers who like to call themselves ‘activists’ begin to spew their trademark drivel.

  29. Augustine says:

    The Turkish ship will help our coast guard duties a lot, but only NNS Aradu can save us in the day of real battle. FGN should please look for $55 million through CBN account and fully restore NNS Aradu to full combat capability, test fire the Otomats, Aspides, Torpedoes, decoys and all guns. Put in brand new engines, fresh sea visual stealth camouflage colours and radar absorbent stealth paint, test all radars, sensors and sonar, put in a CIWS and anti-torpedo decoys . Embark a torpedo armed anti-submarine warfare helicopter….

    Then I will sleep in peace anytime I come home to visit. I don’t want to be invaded in my own Lagos backyard by some intimidating SAS Drakensberg.

    As we are now, Nigeria is NOT safe without a fully battle ready NNS Aradu, all our oil and gas business can be destroyed in one day by a single angry submarine or missile frigate from whosoever we offend among the more powerful African navies.

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