Stijn Mitzer
– IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly
29 May 2014

Chad is in the process of procuring advanced MiG-29 multirole fighters from Ukraine, it was revealed when the first photograph of one of the aircraft was posted on the spotters website in late May.

In April 2009, the Chadian website Tchadactuel quoted President Idriss Déby as saying: “No African country except Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa has the weapons that Chad has today. In addition to what I have today, I am trying to acquire others. As I speak, my little brother Umar Déby, accompanied by the chief-of-staff of the air force,is in Ukraine, negotiating the acquisition of three MiG-29s, pilots, mechanics, and ammunition ”


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  1. jimmy says:

    i am happy for Chad that they are ACQUIRING airframes .I will be happier when the SAID PROCURED air frames for NIGERIA become a reality.

  2. beegeagle says:





    Good defence planning and posturing are PRE-EMPTIVE and not reactive. We need to keep that (in mind as we wait) for Chad to acquire MiG 29s before we fashion out a response. Ten years ago, Chad were already negotiating the sale of four MiG 29s. Has anyone at our sleepy-eyed MoD ever set eyes on a Su-27 sales team?

  3. beegeagle says:


    You took that out of my mouth, Doziex.

    There is no way in the world that they would have contemplated that with Algeria. When a nation invests sufficiently in its defences, it forecloses the likelihood of humiliating experiences befalling her and her sovereignty takes on a new meaning. Would they have contemplated that with smaller countries such as Burma or North Korea?

    In Nigeria, we have become so cheap that the acquisition of 4WD trucks and rifles is what we count as spending money on the defence and security forces. When that is not the case, they are thinking in naira and kobo and as such a system worth a few million dollars translates to a billion naira and we say ” ah, na big money o”. Poverty of the mind? Look how we are talking about Pakistan and Algeria, countries which Nigeria can afford to put more dollars on the table than we can.

    18 months after BH redefined her insurgency, it does not surprise you that the NA have not had even 200 units of new or refurbished MRAPs delivered to the institution which would be just about enough for an infantry brigade, never mind the sheer number of battalions and regiments which are currently on war footing on account of ongoing counterinsurgency operations upcountry? In a Nigeria which received her first-ever squadron of factory-refurbished MiG jets within 60 days of the start of the Nigerian Civil War in 1967?Did Ethiopia not receive her first-ever batch of refurbished Su-27 within 60 days of placing a $160m for eight units way back in 1998-99?

    Does the fact that Russia contemplated and Aussies actually carried out covert reconn on our soil not suggest that our defences are not sufficiently FORBIDDING? Well, blame that on a succession of clueless leaders who chose to bury their heads in the sand because they imagined that they only had to worry about Benin and Niger.

    We have said before that from the southermost precincts of Algeria to the south of Tamanrasset, the Nigerian border is only about 850-900km away. That is within striking range of a Su-30MKA and a MiG 29, both of which Algeria own.

    That prospect of a major embarrassment in the not-too-distant future would result in a massive polarisation of Nigerians against whichever government is unfortunate enough to be on the saddle when that happens and would create so much disaffection in the land that the love for the corridors of power would desert them. It would clearly and inescapably signpost incompetent leadership and the people know that the defence and security forces can only operate as efficiently as the werewithal at their disposal permits. It is the FG which is mandated to provide that werewithal.

    It is telling that the Russians were contemplating that and the Aussies actually came to these parts and got away with it. The shame falls to our leaders. Why did the Aussie adventurers not consider going to Algeria for the dummy run? Did Algeria not refuse to grant rights of passage to British and French special forces earlier this year? Why did they not just go in covertly?

    Nigeria need to steel up her defences. The day that foreign troops come in here unannounced to undertake whatever mission and successfully get away, whichever FG that finds itself on the saddle might never be able to regain its legitimacy.

    Money is meant to be spent. In Nigeria, we either enshrine it or we steal it. In no way whatsoever would I begrudge Russia or Australia. We made a soft target out of ourselves – by CHOICE since predators only come in the form of Chad and Equatorial Guinea as far as our myopic planners are able to see. Were we also not overflying the territories of West and Central African states during the 1980s becuase they laid their defences open to be pulverised. Good defence planning and posturing are PRE-EMPTIVE and not reactive. We need to keep that (in mind as we wait) for Chad to acquire MiG 29s before we fashion out a response. Ten years ago, Chad were already negotiating the sale of four MiG 29s. Has anyone at our sleepy-eyed MoD ever set eyes on a Su-27 sales team?

    We posted this thread – and the Aussie SAS one, not because we give a hoot about Britain or Russia but becuase we wanted to make known the fact that there are nations which have contemplated or have actually violated our defences on account of our penchant for indifferent provisioning. Enough said.

    • Nnamdi says:

      Clap! clap!! clap!!!

      Moving sober words. So True.

      By the way, if I have written the butt naked truth as above, Beeg would be on my neck and cursing SR. You see…?! 😀

  4. beegeagle says:

    Really? I thought we were massaging egos until you arrived? Tok anoda tin abeg..

  5. beegeagle says:

    Oga Henro,

    * they got them before we mustered the courage to reach for anything nearly as stern as that. That should never have happened. It proves conclusively that while we hide behind every reason under the sun to keep our NAF punching below Nigeria’s weight, our more ambitious little neighbours seek to establish dominance over us.

    * Thank God for this day in history. Our outmoded and unrealistic threat assessments can now be finally consigned to the rubbish heap where they belong.

    * expect that number to rise to six within the next twelve months.

    * the next ranking of African Top Gun Airforces shall feature CHAD while Nigeria shall remain outside of it. We really should be ashamed of ourselves for utterly lacking ambition. There are now TEN African Air Forces which own 4G jets while Nigeria is unashamed to belong to the second eleven.

    Darkness falls..

    • Henry says:

      Oga beeg, my man…… I had a genuine laugh reading this comment. We all are disappointed with our in-exhaustable pool of excuses, but we recently got Tucanos, that should count for something now…

    • jimmy says:

      In the immortal words of game of thrones “winter is here”.

  6. Colonel says:

    Nice one oga beeg. Its a pity most Nigerians still see the nigerian military as been superior without knowing the true state of things. If chad acquires such air capabilities, it means they cane refuse to listen to us. They will cease to do their bidding. Nigeria is gradually losing its place in terms of the 5 best equipped military on the continent. I hope that things change soonest. The day i dread is the day any african country breaches our defences and get away with it. We can still salvage ourselves. Its now or nevere. I hope the guys who can make things happen are reading this!

  7. Yagazie says:

    Na wa o! Even landlorcked Chad which has one of the worst Human Development Indices in the world and which as an oil producing country does not produce 1/10th of the oil that Nigeria pumps out on a daily basis is acquiring Mig-29 fighter jets, whilst Nigeria the self styled ‘Giant of Africa’ is thumping its chest that it operates the Chengdu F-7 fighters (clones of Mig 21s).

    Thanks to the stupidity and lackadaisical attitude of our Govt officials, the Chadians now have the aerial platforms which gives them the ability to ‘take out’ our current airfrorce and then go on to bomb Abuja, Lagos, Port-harcourt, Kano, Kaduna, Onitsha, Aba, Jos, Makurdi, Maiduguri, Sokoto, Lokoja, Bonny oil terminal,/LNG terminal, Ibadan, Abeokuta, Akure, Ilorin, Kainji (for the dam and the NAF Air Weapons Centre), Enugu, Umuahia, Yenagoa, Benin, Asaba, Ekiti, Awka, Calabar, Uyo, Jalingo, Yola, Dutse, Katsina and Abuja again for good measure (making sure this time they shatter all the windows and glass in the Aso villa and the National Assembly complex with their ‘sonic boom’ as they fly overhead) and of course not forgetting all our off-shore oil installations in the Atlantic and then fly back to N’djemina UNCHALLENGED , if they so choose.

    Make our Defence planners continue to dey look like mu-mu and continue to use Togo, Benin and Sierra leone plus Liberia and Niger as the yardstick for assessing our millitary strength. Common Boko Haram insurgents on our own soil – we no fit defeat. Even Cameroun is also quitely but steadily upgrading its military capabilities.

    President Idris Derby was being very kind to place us on the same millitary pedestal as Eygpt and South Africa- based on our current millitary ORBAT, we definitely DO NOT BELONG IN SUCH EXALTED COMPANY.

    Finally KUDOS TO CHAD – a poor country that takes the issue of training and equipping its millitary seriously. Maybe now our clueless Defence officials will wake up and do the right thing by our millitary..

    • Are James says:

      You are right my brother, look at the 100km search range and 70km tracking range on the radar system. It also engages multiple air targets at once. This acquisition of fighters to support existing ground attack capability in the SU 25 is clearly aimed at Libya (for historical reasons) and Nigeria for reasons not yet known. This was definitely not done to counter terrorism. Why else would a country acquire what in the context of the region could be classified as air superiority fighter jets?

  8. Are James says:

    Chad acquired MIG 29 jets?. That country’s economy is less than Lagos State’s in size.
    Beegeagle warned everybody years ago that this was going to happen so if anybody is entitled to anger and frustration about all the slow progress in the Nigerian defsec space it is @Beegeagle himself. We all must give him the deserved kudos for maturity and self control in the face of official lethargy and lack of strategic vision by people in power.
    As for the NAF, let them keeping supporting the NAOWA shopping trips and VIP transport with Gulfstream and Cessna Citations. Everything eventually gets rewarded according to the effort put out, national defence is not left out. I for one am not going to kill myself because I want my country to be strong safe and respected. I don tire. No more comments.

  9. beegeagle says:

    Before now, Colonel, they reached for six Su-25 Frogfoot also relegates our A-Jet to second best as far as ground attack assets go…

  10. beegeagle says:



    Mark my words, Chad shall soon reach for MiG 29s and we shall again enter into our usual “escapist mode” of burying our heads in the sand, rationalising the indefensible and HOPING that they do not have to use them

  11. beegeagle says:



    My personal observation of the NAF going back to the late 1980s when the late AVM Usman Natiti was the AOC Military Airlift Command and through the ECOMOG years/Bakassi Conflict suggests to me, based on the activities most consistently undertaken, the array of airframes acquired and their deployment, that the NAF are primarily concerned with

    – air defence
    – ground attack
    – transport and logistics

    As of that time, the NAF owned

    – 33 MiG 21MF/BiS
    – 24 Alpha Jet
    – 12 Aermacchi MB 339s
    – 24 L39 Albatros
    – 18 Jaguar jets
    – 9 C130/C130H-30
    – 5 G222s
    – about 24 Do-128-6/Do-228-212

    The NAF have always appeared poised for homeland defensive operations rather than for offensive/deep strike tasks. Back then and in even in our most strategic air corridor over Borno, it was an AIR DEFENCE wing equipped with MiG 21s which sufficed.

    Oga Peccavi, I do not know what you mean by “shiny toys”. There is nobody suggesting that healthcare and education should not be prioritised. Education continues to receive the biggest chunk of national resources even at the FG level. By the time you add the counterpart funding of same by the states and LGs, it probably dwarfs defence and security expenditure by seven times. My home state, and Rivers State too, consitently fork out over N100 bn naira (US$625 million) for education. Never mind the LGAs. So it is not nearly at token gesture at any level.

    The problem with most commentators is that they forget that Nigeria is a federation and that NATIONAL means FG+States+LGs whereas FEDERAL refers to the FG budget alone. So it was funky for clueless foreign journalists to say that a fifth of Nigeria’s 2012 national budget was spent on DEFSEC. That was a major gaffe.

    Yes, the FG spent US$6 bn of her US$31bn FEDERAL GOVT BUDGET on DEFSEC but that was only for a tier of government. Indeed, states and LGs spent US$55bn extra on roads, education, healthcare BUT NOT defence..which is the FG’s sole responsibility.

    Healthcare also gets major attention in the national scheme of things and the same pattern of FG/States/LG joint financing, being an expenditure head on the Concurrent Legislative List, suffices. You might want to look at the footprint of well-stocked Comprehensive Health Centres and General Hospitals put in place by state govts alone.

    Same goes for agriculture – funded joint by FG/States/LGs and where the Minister, Dr Adesina, is the star performer of this dispensation. Read up some additional stuff about the quiet revolution in our agriculture and its change agent. I want to believe that you are following developments on the ground as keenly.

    The funding of education and healthcare are not in dire straits.Sometimes, misapplication of funds, embezzlement and a lack of political will are what creates that impression.

    A few days ago, I drove through the rather horrendous Onitsha-Enugu expressway on my way to Enugu. On my way back, I used the so called ‘Old Road’ which was operable before the FG-owned expressway became operational in 1979. That Old Road, running all the way from Enugu through Udi to Oji River and on to Ugwuoba on the frontier between Enugu and Anambra States has been entirely resurfaced to the standards of an aircraft runway by Governor Sullivan Chime of Enugu, using the facility of a state budget which did not even peak at a modest N100 bn in any one year between 1999 and 2013. To make it as stark as possible, my own Delta State operated a N427 billion (US$2.75bn) budget in 2013.

    So how did Governor Chime, who is also resurfacing ‘Old Roads’ between Nsukka and Enugu, not to mention Achi to the state’s border near Umunze (in Anambra), achieve all that on such a tight budget? State of play.

    Well, the defence and security budgets are on the Exclusive Legislative List, funded by the FG ALONE. Why do you always make them appear to be the millstones around our quest for national development which they are not, given how much more goes to healthcare and education when the total national indices are collated?

    What is your gripe against MRAPs – even the UPDF use Casspir, GILA and Mamba types in Mogadishu as prescribed by their British and American trainers who came through Iraq and Afghanistan? Last I checked U.S JIEDDO stats for 2011-2012, the Nigerian Insurgency was the most IED-intensive in Africa?

    You often talk about threat perceptions shaping strategy and strategy shaping procurement. Fine..but could that be only the textbook dictum?

    You kind of raised alarm lately over Angola’s purported acquisition of an aircraft carrier. Well, Angola now own eighteen Su-30Ks which from their enclave of Cabinda, can attack Calabar and PHC and all our offshore oil installations.

    Well, Nigeria purportedly acquired Jaguar jets during the anti-apartheid struggle to counter the threat posed by racist South Africa to our offshore oilfields. SA are situated over 3,000 miles away at the nearest point whereas Angola’s Cabinda is barely 1,000 miles distant! Check out the distances and the reach of the deep strike beasts that are the Su-27/Su-30.

    South of Tamanrasset in Algeria, our NW border town of Illela in Sokoto is merely 850km to the south of Algeria. Algeria own Su-30s and MiG 29s. From our far NE border precincts, such as Ngala, El Geneina in West Darfur of Sudan is less than 950km to the east. Sudan own MiG 29s. They are not near enough or they are not poised aggressively enough as things stand or should we wait until it hits home like Angola? Well, Algeria and Sudan are situated much closer to our frontiers than are Angola. Check that out for veracity.

    Are you really suggesting that a pre-emptive posture for Nigeria is a no brainer or should we really wait until a clear and present danger emerges ala Angola and the purported aircraft carrier, then we can go into overdrive on the procurement front like you are suddenly suggesting that we do to counter the Angolan threat? How about the time necessary for training and mastering the ropes, an ill-affordable luxury when the danger manifests itself?

    Nigeria are frothing about Permanent Membership of the UNSC and you cannot see that it is not the perch for F7 operators? Look at all the aspiring members – Brazil (Gripen+frigates+subs), SA (Gripen+frigates+subs), India (Su-30s+destroyers+subs) and tell me that Nigeria have acted smartly in backing their aspirations with what the NAF currently operate. Noticed the timing of the Brazilian swoop on Gripen jets? We need to take ourselves seriously first if we want others to respect us for real.

    Good morning, gentlemen.


    Honestly, I think our threat perceptions have rested on faulty and inconsistent foundations for too long.

    That is why we see threats to national security 1,500km away in Monrovia but not in Angola whose enclave of Cabinda is not even that far away from Calabar. That is why we see the same thing in Freetown, nearly 2000 kms away but not in menacingly poised Algeria which is just 850km removed from our frontiers or Sudan which lies 950km away.

    We know our nextdoor terrestrial and /or maritime neighbours – Benin, Cameroon, Chad, Equato-Guinea, Niger and Sao Tome e Principe. Beyond these, which countries belong in our near-neighbourhood?

    If we choose to define our near neighbours as all the republics which are immediately behind our nextdoor neighbours, those would be Algeria, Togo, Gabon, Burkina Faso(whose easternmost districts are closer to us than all of Togo and lie less than 100 miles to the west of Kamba in NW Nigeria), Sudan and Mali.

    If , alternatively, we choose to define our “near neighbours” as all the countries which lie within 1,000 miles of our border, those would be Libya, Liberia, CIV, Congo Brazzaville, DR Congo (western flank+Kinshasa), Ghana, Chad, Central African Republic (which is only 400 miles removed from our borders), Algeria, Sierra Leone, Guinea, Togo, Gabon, Burkina Faso, Sudan and Mali.

    With the 3,500-4,000 km radius of the madly mighty Su-30/Su-27, perhaps we can see how exposed we really are.

    Mark my words, Chad shall soon reach for MiG 29s and we shall again enter into our usual “escapist mode” of burying our heads in the sand, rationalising the indefensible and HOPING that they do not have to use them

  12. drag_on says:

    Oga beeg,did you notice?
    Let me quote you……..

    “18 months after BH redefined her insurgency, it does not surprise you that the NA have not had even 200 units of new or refurbished MRAPs delivered to the institution which would be just about enough for an infantry brigade, never mind the sheer number of battalions and regiments which are currently on war footing on account of ongoing counterinsurgency operations upcountry?…..”


    Pakistan has a much smaller economy,but is far much more capable in defending itself from threats that we will crumble under.
    They build their own fighter jets ,tanks and missiles,have submarines,frigates,AWACS,Air tankers They have and have recently acquired more F16s than we have had fighter jets in our history.
    Let us keep playing around like boy scouts.

  13. Yagazie says:

    Until the NAF gets proper 4G fighters (like the Su-27/30) in sufficient numbers, plus the simulators and back-up equipment, AWACS (from either Saab or Embraer), in-flight refuelling planes, repair ALL our C-130s/G222s, repair our BO-105s and purchase a massive number of helicopters for attack, recon, medivac and troop transport, get all our drones (imported or locally built) repaired and operational and then UPDATE THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE with relevent information/photos (and not irrelevant pictures of NAOWA occasions or golf tournaments/seminars/NAF secondary school openings) etc, they should not even think of embarrasing us by having/organising an Air Expo..

    • WachanGuy says:

      They can partner with the Israelis and convert one of the PAF G550 aircraft into a powerful G550 AEW&C aircraft which offers superior endurance, range and radar capability while costing roughly the same as the Saab/Embraer models due to lower acquisition costs. Induction costs should also be relatively low as pilots are already familiar with the airframe and will just need differences training, along with training of fresh systems operators.

  14. Henry says:

    We should remember the Information minister disclosed on NTA Tuesday live( this past tuesday) that the NAF placed orders for fighter Jets 2 years ago, he said we are awaiting deliveries.

    Let us be patient, wait and see what was delivered to us. We cannot say for certain if he was or wasn’t referring to the Super Tucanos at this point.

    Oga beeg, would you attend the Air Expo later this year? The event should answer all our questions.

    • Russellinfinity says:

      It takes TWO miserable years (and counting) to get important assets required for the defence of our territorial integrity. How many years does it take to acquire or add a new jet to the presidential fleet? How many years does it require to steal money from the federation account? How was Ethiopia and Angola able to pull theirs off in months?
      SMH. Please wake me when this nightmare is over!

    • Are James says:

      The delay has to be related to some funny payment schedule concocted by those in government who think buying equipment for the air force is low priority. How come the navy gets its ships on time?.. because it is easier to justify in terms of oil and gas petrodollars. This is business men taking decisions affecting national security.
      The counter argument should be made that as far as the gulf of guinea is concerned, the NAF is just as important as the Navy not to talk of the N. Eastern demands on the force.

    • ocelot2006 says:

      Why do I have the feeling they’ll just be more F-7NIs? Maybe the JF-17. Oh well..

  15. beegeagle says:

    NN have invited us to see the SBS commandos and partnered us for the NO COT campaign; we have received JTF communique from Colonel Nwachukwu but the NAF are unique in having made no effort to reach out to us. I dunno why

    IF they invite us to see the AIR EXPO 2014 and make the logistics available (like they took journalists to MDGR in a G222), we shall answer the call to national service. With the number of global defense media executives who visit here, it can only impact the image of the NAF positively and help to create awareness.

  16. Russellinfinity says:

    Congrats to chad on its latest preemptive and smart acquisition. The balance of power is slowly but surely shifting in west Africa. This is what happens when there is a WILL. I honestly believe that successive administrations do not have the will to turn the fortunes of our military around. The usual rant of past service chiefs about the airforce being able to protect the Nigerian airspace (when it obviously lacks the requisite airframes) have compounded matters.

    Chad will obviously ramp up the numbers of jets over time. Ghana will soon reach out for F16s. The big question is: What is the Mod, NIA, NAF and other key decision makers going to do? Are they going to speed up the acquisition process of Aircraft and change the current attitude of buying in uninspiring numbers? What platforms can the NAF request for that will address its threat assessment, defend the airspace of the FRN and counter effectively any threat posed by the airforce of Nigeria’s neighbors? Obviously the NAF should be requesting for a sophisticated military radar, long range capable ground to air missile defence systems and ISTAR assets. Is there a will to do this? Only time will tell.

  17. Augustine says:

    This is a danger signal for Nigeria again. Chad with her MiG-29 Jets in its air force can send one loaded with two drop tanks and a rocket pod, fly from Chad Ndjamena airport to Abuja, humiliate Aso Rock with it’s weapons, and fly back to Chad safely escorted by the two other MiG 29 jets that will humiliate the whole Nigerian Alr Force in the eyes of the whole world if our NAF F-7 poor man’s jets try anything like defending Nigeria.

    This news is a mixture of sadness and joy, joy for Chad, sadness for Nigeria as our long time weaker neighbour has become more powerful than we are now.

    Gone are the days when General Buhari used Scorpion light tanks to chase Chadian rebels out of Nigeria and Air Marshals Yisa Doko and A.D. Bello sent MiG-21 Jets to drive the Chadian invaders away from Nigerian territory in the 1980s. Now the balance of power has changed, Chad is now the boss over Nigeria’s head with 4th generation air superiority MiG-29 Jets, so sad to see us drop down the ladder even locally in west Africa.

    Chadian Su-25 Frogfoot ground attack jets can demolish Nigerian Army on the ground while Chadian MiG-29 air superiority jets demolish Nigerian Air Force in the air. Danger has come.

    If Chad invades Nigeria again today, say if we anger them over Boko Haram issue and Chad tells Nigeria to shut up or get bombarded by MiG-29 jets from Ndjamena airport…..then Nigeria will run to France and United Nations to beg them to save our 170 million people from the hand of Chadian air force, abi ? Ah ! Chineke n’eluigwe ! Allah a cikin sama ! Olorun oba o !

    • Are James says:

      Humiliate Aso Rock with weapons you say?. You should ask Syria’s Hafez Assad during one of the numerous mini conflicts in Lebanon not too long ago, the guy woke up one fine morning to see Israeli warplanes doing aerobatic displays all around his presidential palace. A strong air force with good jamming gear and other technical capabilities gives you that kind of audacity and there is very little an opponent weak in the air can do.

    • Triggah says:

      I laugh… Surely cyberGenerals you don’t think 3 migs are a game changer? 3 migs should just raised eyebrows but 2 squardrons then you should worry. I’m surprised the way we dismiss the fierceness of our ‘giant’ strength. Haha! Chad has the fore-sight on getting a well balanced airforce, 6 SU-25 frogfoot, 3 mig 29 fulgrum. Good but not good enough. 3 bare-boned migs is just a white elephant, a figure head just for show and pychological effect. Did they get air to air missile? Anti-radar? What of integration with other military asset e.g ground based radar system, inter-service comms, ISR. There are gaps and missing links in their ORBAT, An airforce with just 300 personel and 20 aircraft is now the a ‘superpower’ all because of 3 mig 29 fulcrum. Ha! Just like Angola getting an aircraft carrier without proper naval/shipbourne airplanes, force projection and blue water naval assets. A true white elephant indeed. Just like Thailand. Where will they get the crew? Training, Weapons and the day to day maintenance? Our F7’s are even better with their modern 4G avionics and expert flight crew. Having a good platform without a good complementing system (avionics. Look down shoot down radar, Irda, navigation, targeting, comms, MAWS, Real time ISR and data sharing e.t.c) is better than not having any at all. I’ll rather have 12 F7’s with modern system than have 3 fulcrum without any support whatsoever. If the worst comes out we will send in our Special Forces which i believe is averagely good to saboutage them in a deep covert strike op. My main fear is if papa France should donate her complement of mirage f1 and mirage 2000 due to be decomissioned by september this year. Then i’ll start my fasting and praying. I’m not saying that Nigeria military is in top shape. NEVER! All i’m saying is 3 mig 29 doesn’t change the cat and rat game called WAR. Sun tzu says ‘if you know the enemy and you know yourself, the outcome of every battle will not be a surprise’.

      • Alibo says:

        Well said Triggah. I am beginning to believe that the Chadian MiG 29s are there primarily to provide air cover for the Frogfoots arguably one of the best ground attack fighters in the world. This also points to Sudan as Chad’s main headache with their frequent classes. I guess Idriss Derby still has nightmares of Sudan’s deep penetration into Chadian territory a few years back.
        As for the soon to be phased out French Mirage F1s and 2000s, there is nothing to fear here. I doubt that Chad can afford to fly and maintain stuff that the French cannot afford to. Also the problem with US and European weapons systems is that they come with all sorts of restrictions. This was what impeded the use of our Sepcat Jaguars.

    • Triggah says:

      I laugh… Surely cyber Generals you don’t think 3 migs are a game changer? 3 migs should just raise eyebrows but 2 squardrons then you should worry. I’m surprised the way we dismiss the fierceness of our ‘giant’ strength. Haha! Chad has the fore-sight on getting a well balanced airforce, 6 SU-25 frogfoot, 3 mig 29 fulgrum. Good but not good enough. 3 bare-boned migs is just a white elephant, a figure head just for show and pychological effect. Did they get air to air missile? Anti-radar? What of integration with other military asset e.g ground based radar system, inter-service comms, ISR. There are gaps and missing links in their ORBAT, An airforce with just 300 personel and 20 aircraft is now the a ‘superpower’ all because of 3 mig 29 fulcrum. Ha! Just like Angola getting an aircraft carrier without proper naval/shipbourne airplanes, force projection and blue water naval assets. A true white elephant indeed. Just like Thailand. Where will they get the crew? Training, Weapons and the day to day maintenance? Our F7’s are even better with their modern 4G avionics and expert flight crew. Having a good platform without a good complementing system (avionics. Look down shoot down radar, Irda, navigation, targeting, comms, MAWS, Real time ISR and data sharing e.t.c) is better than not having any at all. I’ll rather have 12 F7’s with modern system than have 3 fulcrum without any support whatsoever. If the worst comes out we will send in our Special Forces which i believe is averagely good to saboutage them in a deep covert strike op. My main fear is if papa France should donate her complement of mirage f1 and mirage 2000 due to be decomissioned by september this year. Then i’ll start my fasting and praying. I’m not saying that Nigeria military is in top shape. NEVER! All i’m saying is 3 mig 29 doesn’t change the cat and rat game called WAR. Sun tzu says ‘if you know the enemy and you know yourself, the outcome of every battle will not be a surprise’.

  18. Anas says:

    I weep 4 this country

  19. Giles says:

    pls happy new month to all in d house,as for our airforce wen dey ar serious we wil knw

  20. AY says:

    Oga beeg, this country need people like you as our military strategists/advisors!

  21. Number one says:

    Thank God,little by little all our excuses for underresourcing NAF are being fleshed out.

  22. drag_on says:

    A country which we have had border issues in the past with have got su25s and MIG-29 fulcrums.
    Lake Chad is shrinking and their is going to be issues/conflict of interest over water very soon.
    Chad has made the first move (Twin engine fighters).Oya Nigeria over to you.

    The relative peace we have had in West-Africa is all because of the procurements made in the 80s and to a lesser extent 90s. This region would have been very unstable if not for the decisions of Shagari and co to properly arm Nigeria. Our unmatched Military might meant that most Nigerians knew peace at home in the 80’s, 90’s and 2000’s while west Africa boiled and in the end it was us that brought peace to the region.
    If we allow a power vacuum we will pay for it heavily because we have the largest population in the region.
    More importantly,quite a number of our citizens are coming under increasing physical harm around Africa because we are rapidly losing political and diplomatic clouth simply because these nations are better armed and believe their troops to be better trained. We cannot hope to single handedly maintain a peaceful economic growth for Sub-Saharan Africa is we do not have it’s top Armed Force.
    More importantly, if we or are not clearly the most powerful nation in sub-saharan Africa, a regional war is inevitable. The arms race in East-africa sugests its only a matter of time. Nigeria has to overwhelm other African Nations to the point that they have to take directions from us if not they will fight each other for supremacy.
    Let us not fool ourselves, these nations are finding oil and getting richer.The fact most African Nations have backed us for the U.N. seat is as a result of the 80’s investment. Many African Nations that are dealing decisively with insurgents will be thinking twice now with the ongoing bokoharam debacle. They will listen to us less and less as they find out they are better equipped. If we told a country not to invade another will they listen?
    I don’t have to tell you what the Ugandan president thinks about us at the moment. He is the first leader i know to openly mock our country and leader.Why did he mock us?Well, check out his armed forces.

  23. drag_on says:

    Opps. he is the second leader in recent memory after Mugabe.

  24. rka says:

    I am keeping quiet at the moment and expecting something big regarding the order for new fighters 2 years ago. I will bite my tongue (keep my fingers in check) until we hear what “fighters” were bought/delivered.

    On another note, isn’t it time orders for military equipment like fighters, ships etc. be made public from the off rather than this antiquated method of keeping things underwraps? I don’t know who gains from it. Certainly not the military nor enthusiasts who are left to speculate.

  25. beegeagle says:

    I am hoping that one day soon, I shall find out why my country is so happy to be punching below its weight.

    At this point, the only way to go one up is for the FG to acquire Su-30s through the same method. The other day, we talked about the value of operable surplus equipment. Here we go again. We are still waiting to see the jets which they claim to have acquired two years ago (don’t tell me “Super Tucano”) while the Chadians have already made good their aspirations. This could easily have been Cameroon and they would have made some nasty maneouvres with these during the Bakassi conflict while we wait for aircraft which are still in the pipeline after two years?

    One wonders why the Minister did not find it fit to precisely name the aircraft. This cryptic method of acquiring hardware fails to aid accountability, whatever it is worth. For instance, is it not clear that while we were already clear-headed about what the Chadians were most likely to reach for, our own people in places that matter were probably ignorant of that possibility? Any other reason why we have been caught so flat-footed by this Chadian maneouvre?

    As we play “Secret Squirrel” to no determinable purpose, what if Nigeria which are content to be doing just as much her infinitely less well endowed neighbours, have again done the atrocious and settled for F4 Phantoms or Kfir C2 because we are the only dog which is wagged by its tail rather than the other way round?

    When shall far-sighted geopolitical considerations and shyness about doing that which is beneath us, become the propellants which guide the advancement of our national interest? Why is Nigeria a giant so hellbent on shrinking to the size of a midget? If that were us, the simple matter will get bogged down by “over analysis” of the inane – “e go cause arms race”, “our neighbours nor get am”, “are we at war” and all sorts of nonsense. What do South Africa’s neighbours in Mozambique, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana fly yet SA operate Gripen jets?

    Our loathing for defence expenditure is destroying this country and her national prestige by causing us to look big for nothing. Our minders have again delivered a low blow to our national psyche. We are apparently blighted on all fronts by the curious choices which we make. There is every reason to weep for Nigeria if CHAD can be this big-hearted. My country is implacably lethargic in doing the needful and in deep slumber.

  26. gbash10 says:

    Things are getting better,Chad to acquire advanced MiG-29 fighters,we should be on our knees praying for miracle to happen so that the mind and eyes of our leaders should open up .

    • Blackrev says:

      hehehehe.. oga ghash, if you know Nigerian politicians very well, you won’t even bother wasting you prayers.

      let chad buy, let Niger get some too, and worst off, Cameroon has started modernizing it’s armed force too. while the excuses our rich generals will continue to give is that we liberated SL and Liberia from civil wars.

      I just dey laff for the kin yeye leaders (both military and civilian) wey God use course this country.

  27. beegeagle says:

    I mean, two years and not even a token three units of whatever the minister knows that we supposedly acquired is visible on the ground? That is because we sign a contract and forget to fund same or sleep on it? Which country operates this way for God’s sake?

    Remember that the F7 contract was signed in 2005 and they only arrived in 2010? What kind of atrocious style is that…do we want to buy or not? Five FG budgets and we could not pull off a useless US$ 251 million transaction?

    Okay, we supposedly signed upgradation contracts for all twelve MB-339 jets to the contemporary CD variant ($84 million) and on five G222 planes ($69 million) since 2005. How come all MB 339s and G222s are not operable after a decade? The same absence of a sustained and prompt funding schedule or that got swallowed up by “competing demands” as well while we tried to gain the approval of international financial institutions, the same ones who are now turning around to see incapacitation in all things to do with the Nigerian military?

  28. beegeagle says:

    Our inclination towards seeing defence expenditure as anathema, not to mention usable outlays for hardware procurement, has seen our NAF robbed of its pedigree. We rationalise over the simplest matters which call for snap decisions? Our NAF Ogas are still threatening to defend our country with nothing more visible than COIN assets while TEN AFRICAN airforces fly either Su-27s, MiG 29s, F16s, Gripen and Su-30 jets? Did we not lay ourselves open to mockery by our insufferable outlook on that which we ought to feel ashamed about? Nobody thinks it is an affront on our national psyche that all the useful military establishments on the continent from which Nigeria should derive headsup and know what time it is – Egypt, Algeria, Ethiopia, South Africa, Morocco all fly 4G jets while some, such as Uganda, Chad and Eritrea, unnaturally (on account of their comparatively puny resources) know what is befitting for the image of a serious military establishment and have broken the bank to do the needful?

    In part, the military should be blamed for the situation which they find themselves in today. For indeed, when they could have provided for themselves by fiat all what they should know that they need, the same military actively emasculated itself by either trying to affirm their loyalty to one bloc and remaining empty handed or actually destroying the capacity of the institution on account of short-sighted political maneouvres.

    Why did the Abacha regime for instance, not acquire Su-25s and Hind attack helics, if not to prosecute the ECOMOG operations then to spite those who placed arms embargoes on gallant Nigerian forces doing the world’s dirty job in LBR and SLR?

  29. Colonel says:

    The ineptitude of government officials baffle me. What we lack is the will to get things done. During the war Gen Gowon ordered MIG planes and they were delivered within 60-90 days. I am suprised that an order placed since 2012 hasnt been delivered. As usual, we may have defaulted in payments. The obvious corrupt tendencies of most government officials is the main reason defence acquisitions are shrouded in secrecy. Our political class see no reasons to prepare militarily because they believe Nigeria is a friend to all. The world is changing, the threats are real and the earlier we do the right thing the better. By the time cameroun acquires such capabilities, we will be surrounded by neighbours who can pound us into submission. Congrats to the republic of chad.

  30. beegeagle says:

    I don’t know which is applicable to us – are we too afraid to succeed or just lacking in courage?

  31. Colonel says:

    Information on wiki says african countries have the super tucanos. Mauritania and burkina faso ordered 3 super tucanoes and 2 of the planes have been delivered to this countries. Senegal has ordered 3 super tucanos to be delivered soon. The site mentioned that Nigeria made enquiries about the super tucanoes last year but there was no mention of an order being placed. Even the US have placed an order for 200 units of the aircraft. Maybe the Nigerian government is trying to be secretive as usual. The price listing of the plane was 8 to 14 miliion dollars per unit. A dozen of that aircraft will aid our counter-insurgency operations. Anyway, lets see the deliveries that will be made.

  32. beegeagle says:

    ANGOLA also have those…6 units already delivered. That said, those are asymmetric warfare assets for us. There is a YAWNING GAP in our air superiority capabilities. We need to fix it immediately. Note that in the same year, Angola acquired six units of ALX Super Tucano and twelve ex-Indian Su-30K jets because ownership of one does not preclude the need for the other. Nigeria are fated to plug this capability gap regardless of the acquisition of ALX Super Tucano for COIN operations.

    A Super Tucano dares not takeoff when a MiG 29…never mind the mighty Su-27/30 are hovering to hit hard. That would be suicidal in both concept and action

  33. Alibo says:

    Link to the Chadian MiG 29 on—Air/Mikoyan-Gurevich-MiG-29…/2447014/L/.
    We urgently need the Super Tucanos now in the asymmetrical war we are engaged in. For a long time now, our Air Force top brass could not see any need for expensive air superiority aircraft. Chad is acquiring these aircraft to protect its Eastern borders from incursions by Sudan and not necessarily to compete with Nigeria.

  34. ozed says:

    Beegie, Just thinking.
    Maybe you need to form some alliance with the civil press, so some of the products of these deliberations here can find their way to the daylight.
    Some times i get frustrated when we do sound analyses on this blog and it is left to the few govt functionaries (whose real interests are really not clear to us) who visit this forum to escalate them to the rest of the nation.

    What i think is that if you did a periodic segment on defence and security in a decent paper e.g. Businessday, guardian etc. some of these analysis would be out there in the open and shame the policy makers and defence authorities into more transperancy and proactiveness.

    I would be happy to help in any way i can to make this happen if its something you are interested in.


  35. beegeagle says:

    It does not matter for whom or why they were acquired. If a shooting war with CHAD broke out today, do you imagine that they would not use them against us?

    And who says they are not competing with Nigeria? They suspiciously own Mi-171Sh Terminator, EE-9 Cascavel AFVs and BTR-3 APCs and have also acquired and modernised 82 Eland AFVs as counterweight to our Panhard AML 90s.

    Let us not be lethargic about this. That is the escapist mode which we should run away from. It does not matter why they were acquired…they were acquired on our borders. Good threat analyses envisage all possible existing and emerging threat matrices. We have to respond to this new reality in sync with our COIN challenges, none to the exclusion of the other since the threat matrices are multi-pronged….one full-blown, the other latent. It is a country with a rising military profile after gutsy outings in the region and we would be advised to be proactive…even if we have to make an effort to be that way.

    Please let us not make excuses for the untoward. That is what got us to this sorry pass where every Western media house have made an emotional punching bag of the Nigerian military.

  36. russellinfinity says:

    I can vividly remember the then CAS boasting on TV how The NAF has got its wings back and was capable of defending the nations Air space after reactivating the Alpha jets !!

    Please Sirs, can any one explain to me in clear military terms how the NAF intends to accomplish this feat. Is it me or are some of our service chiefs and national defence planners afraid of giving president GEJ the true picture of the state of equipments in our orbat?

    • Henry says:

      Oga Russel, the new CAS( Amosu) in clear terms has told the president and nigerians that the Air-Force is in a Bad shape. Let me see if I can find the link to his statement.

      The information minister on the same show, did say that the military was ill-equipped and there has been no comprehensive defence procurement for the military since the shagari era.

      • Russellinfinity says:

        You’re right Sir Henry. I had CAS Bade in mind. The current CAS has stood out and made a mark by telling the story as it is. I can only hope the Air force gets something reasonable to reply this challenge.

  37. Oje says:

    I made a case of why a country like Nigeria should not be buying aircrats like that propeller plane from Embrae that costs over a billion naira for one unit. I was slammed by the likes of Henry and co for lacking knowlee on military systems and their units. We spent several days on here lauding this as an accomplishment in the right direction. Today a country whose entire bufget is the size of the salary of our combined ministers is aquiring 4th gen fightets, they are not even on a war footing now. Ive said this and i will say it again: The Americans will be more than willing to sell us a dozen unit or more of thrir S-10 Warthogs which they intend sending to their aircraft graveyard in Tusvon Arizona for a fraction the price we are paying for that crap. If our Defense chiefs requests for F-16’s they will get it. Why will a country at war consistently snd delibrately sabotage the lives of our fighting men and women by refusingg to accept reality, that we are at war and mobilise fully for war.

  38. Oje says:

    Forgive the typographocal errors again.

  39. Augustine says:

    beegeagle says:
    June 1, 2014 at 5:35 am
    I am hoping that one day soon, I shall find out why my country is so happy to be punching below its weight.

    At this point, the only way to go one up is for the FG to acquire Su-30s through the same method. The other day, we talked about the value of operable surplus equipment.


    True and very true Oga Beegeagle, the only thing that can adequately protect Nigeria from Chad’s new superior air power now, is for Nigeria to buy Su-30 Flanker jets, and if possible the Su-30 MKI version and start training with India that has it.

    Chad’s MiG-29 maneuverability beats the JF-17 Thunder and i worry about air to air close range dog-fights, the JF-17 Thunder we buy, should be second-line multi-role jet fighters while Su-30 becomes our first-line multi-role and air superiority jet fighter, we need a mix of both including technology transfer on the JF-17 jets from Pakistan so we can build more locally here in Nigeria in a few years from now.

    Nigeria desperately needs Su-30 Flanker jets fighters today !

    • beegeagle says:



      IF we come good and get a startup haul of six Su-30s, we should endeavour to build that up to twelve units in total by 2015 – eight air superiority variants and four trainer variants. As one has pointed out severally, a Nigeria which share borders with the Gulf of Guinea, the Sahel, Central Africa and West Africa must position her airforce to operate across these theatres. So Su-30s with their staggering 2,000 mile radius need to be positioned at our extremes for maximum strike reach in the absence of in-flight refuelling tankers. Position the pairs of Su-30s at MDGR, CAL, SOK and LAG.

      Meantime, allow time for the JF17 Thunder Blk 2 to be perfected. We must not buy the comparatively rudimentary Blk 1 variant. The JF17 PROJECT should be the primary focus of Nigeria-Pakistan relations. 30 units of JF17 Blk 2 should be okay for 2016-18 because the NAF need not return to rot and should commence the gradual induction of Su-35s in quadruples by 2020. Leave Pakistan out of the T55 upgrade and let DICON’s partners, Poly Technologies of China,
      champion that effort.

      At the secondary level, with twelve Su-30s and thirty JF17 Blk 2 jets, Pakistan can now come in to support the expansion of what must become our third-tier jets…F7s. They have phased out squadrons of those as they took delivery of JF17 jets. Their BVR-capable F-7PG is arguably the most powerful variant of the AirGuard. If we can get 30 units of those for US$45-50 million, that would very cheaply expand our F7 fleet to sufficient numbers necessary to make a dent in the
      point defence role. After all,”quantity represents a certain QUALITY of its own” at some point.

  40. beegeagle says:

    Yeah, Oga Oje, you were not impressed by the Super Tucano whose acquisition for COIN operations was a smart move though. It does not remove from the continuing lack of air superiority assets in the NAF. Both aircraft types are needed at this time…none to the exclusion of the other.

    Forget about the F16s and A10s abeg. That is a pure wish list that is steeped in daydreams. What is the fixation with Yankee gear which everyone knows we shall not get anyway? Why not F22 Raptor? With all the bad press about rights abuses coming from HRW and Amnesty International and all, which America will sell us what A10s? I mean, they would not even train with a unit tainted by allegations of rights abuses! Are you keeping your eyes on the ball at all or you just have a romantic fixation with unattainable American kit?

    Ethiopia and Uganda have arguably served as proxy armies for the West after the collapse of the communist bloc. Ever wondered why they fly Su-27s and Su-30s instead of F16s? Perhaps the only reason why Egypt and Morocco got them at all is the Arab-Israeli detente. During the Cold War, socialism was hugely popular in the Arab World where monarchical regimes desperate for self-preservation naturally gravitated towards America. America which also wanted to have the Soviets checkmated in the region, also gravitated towards these autocratic monarchical regimes. That was the start of the warm relations which exists between America and the Arab monarchies. THAT is why Jordan, Morocco and the UAE all fly F16s.

    REALITY CHECK…ordinary CIWS was deleted from NNS Thunder before delivery and you imagine A10s and F16s from the same USA which would not be persuaded to supply DEFENSIVE EDAs such as uparmored Hummers and MRAPs? How does that work out now? Which America will sell A10s and F16s to Nigeria? Hmmn….hopes springs eternal.

    • igbi says:

      I often wondered if I were the only one who could see beyond the hype of the USA.
      Their actions don’t really depict them as our friends. China has been much more friendly to us than the USA. I bet if we had a sizable white population like south-africa then the USA’s behavior would have been different. So let us forget about the USA in business and in military affairs, the diplomatic relationship should be as little as possible as well.
      I also want to ask a few questions to those in control of our budget : Nigeria is slowly becoming the country with the smallest defense expenditure on earth, why is that ?

  41. Augustine says:

    rka says:
    June 1, 2014 at 12:58 am

    On another note, isn’t it time orders for military equipment like fighters, ships etc. be made public from the off rather than this antiquated method of keeping things underwraps? I don’t know who gains from it. Certainly not the military nor enthusiasts who are left to speculate.


    Oga rka, most countries all over the world announce their weapons/equipment purchases to the public who have a right to know how tax-payers money or natural resource money is about to be spent before and after it is done. Why hide jet fighter purchase after contract is signed, is it a nuclear weapon?

    See how Brazilians publicly debated openly for years about whether they should buy Gripen jet of F-18 jet, and final choice was made by Brazilian government then announced to the public in detail for accountability.

    Some people in Nigeria chose F-7 jets for us and never gave us a chance to speak our minds and opinion in a democracy, but now, Chad has told Nigeria we made a mistake, poor and less mineral endowed Chad is not buying F-7 old school jets, they are buying 4th generation MiG 29 jets.

    When will Nigeria ever learn ? Always ‘Fire Brigade’ approach that leads to regret and pains !

    • ozed says:

      My brother Augustine,
      unfortunately Transparency breeds accountability, which enforces responsibility.
      our defense decision makers (like most average human beings) will not choose accountability by them selves. It must be enforced upon them.

      If they had publicized the F7 deal ab initio, Beegie and and a number of other people on this forum would have been able to show every Nigerian the folly of that move. However, this would not have favored the plans of the greedy persons who planned that deal (because from all indications it was selected on the grounds of highest kickback realizable).
      To think that this F7 deal happened under the watch of a president who was a retired military man, and who saw first hand during the civil war how the poor soldier paid the price in blood for the procurement mistakes of the top brass. unbelievable !

      • beegeagle says:

        The use of middlemen in our procurement process smacks of sharp practice. MoD can deal directly with Suncraft, ISI, Norinco, Poly Technologies Inc, Rosoboronexport, BVST, TP Marine etc without using middlemen.

        The only fathomable role played by a middleman in the process would be to receive kickbacks and booty in the name of profit and transfer same to the greedy pilferers within

      • Solorex says:

        F7 were meant to be an emergency stop gap measure to replace Mig 21 ;a consortium Elbit and Eastern European company wanted over $200m to refurbish /upgrade our fleet of near scrap Mig21 then, and F7 thus became very attractive option then. Our Air force was just returning from the dead then ( they more like a VIP//passenger service airline before then) and Mig 21 was the only Airframe for which expertise was already largely available locally and least problematic to induct(turn out they were in-fact very wrong conclusions), China was also a very willing and “pushful” friend with great sounding added juices needed urgently to tackle Niger Delta Issues (small landing crafts ,AK 47s,Motar rounds e.t.c). We got the best/ latest available version with great western Electronics which will still be relevant in a decade then afterwards. Then a plan was laid down for the reactivation of several airframes and induction of others. There were countless number of trips to exhibitions, demonstration abroad and a few MOU signed. However, regime changes, political disturbances coupled with priority redefinition threw everything off balance and we are where we are today. We are getting our Swag back but it will take time. The message and the needs are well understood and hopefully we shall smile soon.

    • rka says:

      Oga Augustine, you are quite right. Most other countries with accountable procurement systems issue a RFI on, for example, a fighter aircraft that meets their specification and then even invite the competing companies to demonstrate their products as well as giving pilots a chance to evaluate them.

      Then there is the opportunity for off-set deals which is part of the selection process and you can then come to a well educated choice of the right platform for the needs of the air force.

      Alas, I am dreaming of the day of such openness and accountable due process. We prefer this secrecy, which adds to the conspiracy theories (or facts) about funds being diverted or eaten up by middlemen, hence the distrust of the average Nigerian in military matters.

      Wake up the powers that be and announce what has been procured and if it doesn’t meet the requirements of the country, explain what you intend to do to rectify this in-balance.

  42. Henry says:

    Oje, the A-29 super Tucano is a brilliant fighter, and the NAF made a brilliant choice acquiring those fighters, no question.

    We understand we require a 4th GEN.multi-role Fighter and beegeagle’s blog(bloggers) have continued to advocate for the purchase of this sort of asset for the Airforce.

    We’ll just have to wait and see what actual “fighter aircraft” the Airforce purchased or ordered for.

    For the umpteenth time, the U.S government would not sell the nigerian airforce or army or navy any “offensive” weapon. Your constant talk of A-10 thunderbolt and F-16’s for the NAF is absolute wish list.

    We might get “un-armed” patrol boats, vehicles or helmets, but anything with guns would not happen.

  43. beegeagle says:

    Oga Chucks and Oga Startrek…ref the big jets being refurbished in a small country outside Africa for the NAF, any updates? Handshake don cross elbow o…e wan resembul wrestling.

  44. Obix says:

    More info from Ukraine concerning the Chadian purchase: (Translated from Ukrainian language by me )
    “Chad is modernizing its armed forces and to this end the country decided to purchase multi-role fighters for the needs of the Air Force. After lengthy consultations, Chad chose to purchase three MiG- 29 from Ukraine.

    3 Ukrainian Air Force MiG- 29 are undergoing repairs and partial modernization at the ” Lviv State Aircraft Repair Plant ” .

    It is assumed that the Chadian Air Force signed the contract in 2009 with Ukraine for the supply of two MiG-29 multi-role fighters and one MiG-29UB combat training version. The contract also includes training of Chadian specialists and pilots in Ukraine, spare parts and ammunition purchases.

    One of the aircraft was recently photographed during test flight at the international airport of the city of Lviv. The Chadian MiG -29 Air Force was caught in lenses of local spotters was numbered “TT-OAP” and will soon be handed over to representatives of the Chadian Air Force.”
    Earlier, between 2008-2010 Ukraine supplied of Chad with five Su-25 and one Su-25UB jets.

  45. Martin Luther says:

    Dear All,
    Something is spooking me O, why are the African countries central and east of Africa as well as by the North and East of Nigeria ARMING UP and upping their game.

    I remember the 1st and 2nd Congo war and hope a mini world war is not coming somewhere close O!

    Very sorry to and for the big boys in the Military and MOD that may be seeing this, hope they are, I still cannot understand how BH have become masters of force maneuverability in the muddy NE train. Is it not the same terrain we saw pictures of on this blog, how does BH hit with enlarged teams and disappear.

    – It is only if they soak into the general population
    – If they have extensive tunnels
    – If they fly away
    – Or if they are not chased

    Which one Sirs
    Well pride is key for an armed force which is equal to moral

    Now see Chad, acquiring the power to strike any location in Nigeria within 45mins of their president’s decision. Again, if Museveni for example strikes any part of Nigeria by Air how do you hope to respond, how would you stop him in the 1st place? The Angolans are their too and all these guys are not exactly our friends in fact they are irritated by the name Nigeria and mock and jeer at any chance they find.

    How secure are my investments in Nigeria, if anyone can walk in and out because I do not see any capability of self-defense in Nigeria for now. Do not tell me there is because a show of force is part of the process of deterrence.

    I have a combination of SHAME and FEAR in my heart, what about you?

    • Are James says:

      Nigerian Kamajors. They are all bullet proof btw. Locally developed, all aspect bullet deflection and neutralization technologies backed by secondary, invisible, non invasive remotely operated surgical shrapnel extraction capabilities.

    • Are James says:

      Once again, everybody is riding on Beegeqgle blog’s proprietary information. About time to start charging money for all these information.

      • Martin Luther says:

        No sue instead abi Oga beeg u never do copy right? If you never, e go be like joke when some boys go claim say na them be u very soon.
        I no know you so I no go fit testify on your behalf o

  46. Alibo says:

    Unfortunately the Nigerian Army still behaves like the per Iraq war US Army. It takes a beating initially. It then turns around and over time subdues its opponent or reaches a draw. This is unlike the Israelis who hit hard from the git go. In our case it is corruption and mixed signals from the top civilian or military leadership. Abacha was only too happy to allow the Sierra Leone/Liberian wars to drag on. It kept his Generals too busy to plan coups. Hopefully the upcoming elections may force the civilian leadership to do the right things to subdue Boko Haram. Right now all we are doing is shadow boxing with some top politicians looking to profit from phoney settlements and amnesty programs.

    As for Chad, Sudan, Uganda etc, one, two or three examples of the MiG 29 does not impress me. It is difficult to train pilots and mechanics to fly and maintain the aircraft. Only countries with large numbers of civilian or military pilots and mechanics can pull this off. Namely Egypt, Ethiopia, South Africa, Nigeria, Algeria and to lesser extent Angola have the manpower and resources to pull this off. If Nigeria is losing the occasional MiG 21 or Alphajet then without Ukrainian pilots, you can forget about Chadians flying such a sophisticated aircraft. Remember the Ugandan Mil 35Ps that crashed en mass in Kenya while flying to Somalia? That was a serious dent on their resources and capability. Regards to you all starting with Field Marshall Beegeagle.

    • asorockweb says:

      “Ugandan Mil 35Ps that crashed en mass in Kenya”?

      Pray tell 🙂

      • Alibo says:

        Last year 4 or 5 copies were forced to land either due to pilot disorientation, a storm or operational difficulties. I cant renenber. Some if not all sustained varying degrees of damages in Kenya. They were on their way to Somalia to provide close support to Ugandan troops there. I am not sure whether they were Mil 24Vs or 35Ps. The net result was that they never made it to Somalia.

      • WachanGuy says:

        @Oga Asorockweb they famously crashed 3 in 1 day while en-route to an AMISOM mission in Somalia. See

      • asorockweb says:

        Thanks guys

  47. peccavi says:

    Well I have various opinions on one of the poorest countries on earth with virtually no roads or infrastructure beyond its capital spending money on strike aircraft and how they plan to maintain these highly expensive kit but I’m relatively sure they are of no interest to the house.
    What is of interest is the strategic implications of this move, i.e. why and what for?
    Why: In my opinion 3 reasons, France, oil and Sudan
    France has recently redeployed its forces to protect its interests and destroy terrorism in the Sahel. France has several reasons for this, the uranium mine in Niger, oil and gas in Algeria, Libya etc, protecting the regimes of its Francophone client states, preventing terror groups from getting a safe haven from which to attack mainland France. In the old days this involved defence pacts and basing troops in all its colonies. France can no longer afford this, so they are using a new model of limited direct intervention. However in order to intervene decisively they need spend and intelligence, which is why they have prepositioned forces and supplies in 4 locations in West Africa.
    However they also need dependable African allies to either do some of the legwork or get involved in their place and no one has been no more dependable than the Chadians who have tough, disciplined, troops who specialise in exactly the tactics needed to defeat light, small fast insurgents in the desert (considering the Chadian Army is made up of various rebel groups who perfected the rezzou rapid flanking tactics, this is not a surprise). An air wing capable of not just air superiority but deep strike to support these expeditionary forces is the next logical move. The Chadians are normally fairly good at releasing their statistics so if one could be inclined to wade through it would be interesting to see how they are funding this acquisition. It also gives the Chadians reach over Niger, Mali, Libya etc. Again it will be interesting to know the training package, are they focussing on air superiority, close air support, long range recce etc.
    The Chadian oil fields and pipelines running through Northern Cameroun are extremely vulnerable to attack from insurgents and also state actors such as Sudan or Nigeria if required, the Migs give them the ability to not only conduct air patrols, armed air recce, but close support and deep strikes to either neutralise or deter an attack on these facilities.
    Sudan’s airforce is one of the most active (due mainly to Sudan constantly being at war with itself) in Africa, Sudanese airpower has stymied the attempts by various Chadian backed groups to achieve victory, while these aircraft cannot redress the balance they at least give Chadian forces and Chadian backed forces an air superiority capability, causing Sudan to rethink its role strategically
    So what does it mean for Nigeria? Well depends on alot of factors but worse case scenario it gives the Chadians a new capability, the ability to defeat just about every air frame in the Nigerian inventory and conduct air strikes across Northern Nigeria if they are so inclined. Of course one must factor in traing, maintenance, experience, radar coverage etc but if Chad’s status changes from friendly to hostile then they are a fairly potent threat, but not a decisive one. There would be no harm however in drawing up strike packages for the NAF to destroy them on the ground, either with air strikes or SF missions, or to destroy the airfields. Not that its needed but its good practice to prepare for these things.
    Anyway he proof of the pudding will be in the next 3-5 years when they are going through another famine cycle, one would be curious to see how useful the MiGs are then

    • asorockweb says:

      Nice one.

      Abuja in vulnerable.

      We need to reset our Air Defence capabilities.

      SAMs and radars first (we do NEED 4th gen fighters as well).

      Without the radars, any new Air Superiority fighters or interceptors we buy can’t intercept.

      SAMs are cheaper to maintain than high end jet fighters and pilots.

      We also need deep strike capability to neutralize threats and create the certainty of retribution.

      Regarding Chad’s need for expensive weapons, let’s not forget that Chad has fought a series of civil wars. The latest ended just a few years ago:

      The current regime is trying to end that by building a strong military.

      Sudan has sponsored Chadian rebels in the past, so has Libya.

      The current Chadian regime is trying to build a military that will become invulnerable to cheaply sponsored rebellions.

      In their minds: ‘Regime Security’ before ‘Food Security’
      If the above paradigm works out for them, Chad may become a strong stable nation.

  48. AOk says:

    Farnborough Air Show is next month and I’m sure most of the NAF ogas are preparing to have a ‘jolly’ week there with zero intentions of looking for suitable platforms for us.
    What does having a fourth generation aircraft mean? It might sound more prestigious but can NAF personnel maintain and fly a bird like the Su 30 with its thrust vectoring abilities.
    I read somewhere here that NAF pilots had difficulty converting to the F7s, so what level of upgrade problems to more advanced 4th Gen aircraft?
    We have pilots training worldwide now and I wonder what percentage of them will be capable of performing combat tasks.
    Flying fast on display on Independence Day or Expos does not mean being capable of air combat manoeuvring and harnessing all systems to make for a formidable pairing of pilot and aircraft.
    How are we recruiting ab initio pilots, still from federal character? None of these 4th generation planes are solely for pilots with great seat of the pants flying, without the knowledge and intelligence to their formidable electronics platform.
    So, countries like Uganda, Chad and those that fly machines like the MiG 29 and Sukhois still have a strong foreign input into their operations. But for how long? What happens when the cash runs out? The Mig 29 has been flying for almost 30 years and I’m sure the Chadians will not be getting the current versions but the older marks.
    Will we look back in five years on this blog and see whether the refurbished Alphas, C130s and G222 are still flying?
    Before deciding on our fighters, let’s review the infrastructure to support it.
    Great dreams on the postings above on what superlative fighter we should purchase, but I think the problem is with our existing system of purchase full of secrecy.
    We should have had a fly off here in Nigeria for our potential fighters but hey, that means the 50 percenters will not get their cut. The manufacturers knowing that sales are on the line would have come here with their wares.
    But no, not us. Our dodgy system is not new, as older heads will remember the C130 purchase back in the 70s.

    We have a huge ego but are our mouths writing cheques that our bodies cannot cash?

  49. beegeagle says:

    They do not need to be at Farnborough for that hollow ritual which has never yielded anything. They should be talking to Rosoboronexport. Ethiopia outsourced the maintenance of their Su-27s. They have since gone on to produce female pilots for same. We only need to take a first step. The only impediment to advancement often turns out to be fear.

    The same Nigeria which threw up Beegeagle’s Blog, JayJay Okocha, D’Banj etc is bound to throw up great pilots in the mould of Ben Ekele yet again.

  50. beegeagle says:

    Yeah Asorockweb, three Ugandan Mi-24 Hind got lost enroute Somalia. They crashed in a mountainous area of Kenya and it was widely reported in the media at the time.

  51. beegeagle says:

    Yeah Asorockweb, three Ugandan Mi-24 Hind got lost enroute Somalia. They crashed in a mountainous area of Kenya and it was widely reported in the media at the time.

    • asorockweb says:

      What folly!
      They should have leased Antonovs to transport their gunships to the battle zone.

      • Are James says:

        Trust an African air force to attempt to put second hand helicopters on a six hour hike across some of the most mountainous regions of the world. No need for extensive root cause analysis; just think engine failure, lubrication system failure, gear box failure, rotor connector fatigue or pilot fatigue.

      • jimmy says:

        And this is the f___l that ismocking us . T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

  52. rka says:

    I am in two minds whether to attend Farnborough Air Show this year as it has been a while (I think 6 years ago).

    I honestly think we might be expecting the SU-27/30 as it is unlikely that the Super Tucano was what was ordered 2 years ago, although you never know.

    I seriously doubt it is the JF-17 as it would have meant we ordered the Block I as the Block II has only just entered production with Block III planned for 2015 which will incorporate aerodynamic and avionic alterations. Pkistan are only producing 20 a year at the moment and they have gone to the Pakistani Air Force, so I don’t know were the airframes would ahve come from.

    Then there is the L-15 which would be replicating the Alpha Jet in a way, although it is way more advanced (why upgrade/re-activate them if new L-15s were expected).

    Unless we have ordered another Chinese aircraft i.e. J-10, all other rumours point to the SU27-30. Surely there is no smoke without fire.

    I wait with bated breath.

    • Are James says:

      What if they burst our bubble and unleash L159 or indeed the Israeli Kfir C2 and tell us it is fit for our purposes. You never know with this people.

      • rka says:

        Lol. @Are James, I will return to my darkened room and remain there in isolation until they have a re-think.

      • drag_on says:

        @ james.
        hmmm. where i keep my palm wine sef. Just in case.

    • beegeagle says:

      J10….too short-ranged for our needs

      JF17 Thunder must not be attempted as our frontline jet and only the Blk II will be acceptable

      Su-27/30….100% endorsed for the NAF. Great speed, manoeuvrability and imperious 3,000-4000km combat radius. A beast by every definition of that word.

    • gbash10 says:

      @ rka,true talk about the acquisition of the fighter jets.

  53. drag_on says:

    What is my reason for wanting a su 30 fighter? 4G warfare capability. If the Chadians were to send mercs after our F-7s we are dead in the air. The F-7 we carry, are they BVR-capable?
    Do they have data-link?(not autopilot data link)
    Can they carry anti-radiation missiles? Do our pilots even know about the dangers of anti-missiles and how to react to them?
    What about IRIS/FLIR ? Do our fighter jets have these systems onborad?
    Do they have the capacity to carry jamming pods?How will they react to jets with PESA and AESA radars/jammers?
    For goodness sakes the F-7 is just a mig 21 fishbed clone. Its an interceptor not multi-role just interceptor.If the enemy is not detected by radar and vectored to the Migs they remain grounded.
    Yes Migs.
    Our air-force need not just an upgrade in fighter jet but also in fighting doctrine. What pilot would want to go in the air against a 4g fighter in a MIG? Are they expecting a close range dog fight?
    We are stuck drunk to the victories MIGs brought us during the civil war.

    • rka says:

      @ Drag_on, apart from the Italian Grifo radar, we have no idea what capabilities the F-7s came with.

      There is no doubt that our pilots understand the principles of modern warfare, afterall, most fighter pilots are trained abroad at the moment. The problem may lie with the older generation who may or may not have kept up with modern trends, but are the policy/decision makers.

      • drag_on says:

        That is the unfortunate part of our military procurement programme.we have no idea what we use to defend ourselves. But those MIGs cant give us air superiority without the aid of Ground based SAM battery back-up together with mobile and fixed radar units.

      • Triggah says:

        I don’t think the threat assessment has changed much in the mind set of our elderly ogas. The have’nt grasp the concept of air superiority or CAS. Remember the Iraqi invasion of Saudi arabia. (battle of Khafji) an entire iraqi armored brigade was destroyed from the air. We need younger military leaders.

  54. drag_on says:

    When i say MIGS, i mean the fishbeds(MIG 21).

  55. Henry says:

    I don’t know why, but I also have this feeling that perhaps we’re raising our hopes too high.

    I just can’t help but be pessimistic. They really know how to disappoint us.

    I just hope the information minister wasn’t referring to the Tucanos as fighter jets. It would be, well….. Not a disappointment to me, but to many other beegeagle’s bloggers.

  56. Henry says:

    Oga beeg, remember you ran a story, possibly early 2013 or in 2012 that the “NAF were in the hunt for an air-superiority fighter, most likely of western origin”.

    Could the minister’s claim of awaiting fighter jet deliveries be further proof of that 2012 snippet?

    • beegeagle says:

      Yes, I did. However, it does not now seem logical to expect that this shall be the case since it is impossible to keep something like that coming out of the Western world under wraps for 2 years. Full disclosure requirements make it so.

  57. ozed says:

    Other thing is that air superiority / dog fighting is as much an art as it is a science. Buying the technology is one thing, but actually developing the human skills comes from several hours of dueling in the air and firing actual munitions e.g. air to air missiles etc. like the US airforce does at their Top Gun school, or as the isreali air force does.

    This is where economics comes in both for us and for the Chadians, just fueling these aircraft can be expensive not to mention buying training missiles etc. or carrying out compulsory maintenance on the airframes.

    Na wa o. defending your self can be an expensive business.

    • drag_on says:

      Oga ozed
      You said something very true,but you don’t bring a knife to a Gun fight no matter how skilled you are.

  58. AOk says:

    We (at least some on this blog) will not know the F7s full capabilities, but foreigners will, because they supplied it. Hate harping back to the past, but in the 80s, the wild cats (Jaguars) did night patrols and used their radars to sweep for bogies and direct accompanying Migs for interdiction.

    Principles of air combat haven’t changed much but technologies have moved on.

    Agree with Beegs that the Su30 with its huge range and thrust vectoring seems fantastic on paper, but what of the human endurance? How sharp are you when you’ve been airborne for four / five hours in a defence role opposed to a strike one?

    A quick alert system utilising bases at 3 / 4 points of Nigeria means less fatigued pilots utilising maybe G550 radar systems or whatever.

    Is a shorter range fighter (cheaper) than the Su’s spread across bases in the country the way to go? Maybe our crews can sharpen up skills in exchange programs with the SAF on their Grippens.

    If perchance we go Sukhoi, they will not give us the full Monty but a much sanitized tamer version. No one has mentioned the Mirage 2000.

  59. Spirit says:

    I pity my country.

  60. Tope says:

    Hey Beeg Eagle bloggers, im honestly fed up with how our political leaders behave, its only when something attacks oil supply they will wake up, since we found out recently abati visits this blog, he has not even sent beegs a message to invite him…….again im very sure Labarun Maku or his aides visit this blog, because all of them roll together, my problem is this, why dont dey listen?. The Navy is the ONLY armed forces branch that has shown positive moves to partner with us and take us seriously even naming a ship from our suggestions( no mean feat) that there is the CLEAREST evidence that a major player of admiral rank level reads this blog, so I suggest that we only give or suggest ideas to the Navy, when the other two plus ministry of defence n oda security agencies and organisations are ready they should reach back stage to beeg n us.

    That said when and where is the Airforce Expo taking place I suggest beegeagle bloggers all go there and quiz the airforce flyers, luietenants, captains, wing commanders, air commodores and even marshalls on the need to have n acquire in nothing less than 3 squadrons Air superiority fighter jets like the Sukhoi 27,30,35 and Mig29 fulcrum immediately.. we can get for interceptors jf17 thunder block 2 and see if j10 can be added to the deal, for ground attack, get the L15 falcons, super tucano, upgrade the jaguars and remaining alphas and finally begin makingour own air supreiority fighters which we know Air force has partnered with 14 universities for, we need military satellite, radar surveillance and command n control centres before we begin talkin of ISTAR assets, long range rockets, air defence batteries, SAMs, TRACON, epe rocket project, air inflight refuellers, signal planes, bombers, reconnaisance jets and transport and utility Jets.. we know they need a lot but be like the navy outline EXACTLY what they need from now till 2020. Let it be clear and concise n get the needed private industries working.

    So guys its better to be a fresh movie to a deserving audience than a dead record player on repeat to stubborn people.

  61. startrek says:

    Apologies my cyber Marshal, as U must already know there is fire on the mountain. Not even the desk is speared at the moment
    Anyway no shaking my source was and is still solid.

  62. WachanGuy says:

    Don’t mean to derail the thread but I would like to attend the Air Expo. Please does anyone know where one can get more information? And do they allow photography? Although knowing Naija, I think I know the answer already haha

  63. ifiok umoeka says:

    Sorry guys, just got back from a trip last nite. Na travel hide me o!
    Greetings Beegeagle Bloggers!

    Oga Are James, U TOO GOOD
    Had a good laugh!

    ‘…and you imagine
    A10s and F16s from the
    same USA which would
    not be persuaded to
    supply DEFENSIVE EDAs
    such as uparmored
    Hummers and MRAPs?’
    Oga Beegz, PURE GOLD.

    Oga Solorex from what I remember, that deal was $160mn which included Israeli radar, missiles, engines, western ejector sits, digital cockpit with HOTAS and spares for 24 mig 21( the 24th a gift) which would have brought the fishbeds to the Indian/Romanian mig 21Bis/Lancer standard and the only advantage the F7 had was range!
    By the way, this is almost 10yrs since the decision was made and we are still STOP GAPING!

  64. jimmy says:

    for those who continue to OPINE that the f.g. does not have the money/ competing demands/ There is no money. I will continue to offer Real indices of how much money the f.g. and the richest state ACTUALLY collect in revenue, here is the latest. These are the big boys i.e the1% who pay the most in income tax revenue
    Remember this is cash paid to the coffers of the f.g .

    • asorockweb says:

      Great info.

      It’s good to know NLNG is paying it’s taxes.
      Not sure what you are saying though.

      • Are James says:

        Nigeria’s equity in the NLNG also ‘shits out’ about $1bn in dividend every year.
        The money paid by NLNG to gas firms in Nigeria, a good portion of that also goes indirectly to the FG, so both sides of the value chain in gas are profit centers for the FG.
        I am also going to mention the NPA which makes an unspecified but far over $3bn in concessionaire charges and tariffs every year.
        If all Nigerians know how much the FG makes per year (which should comfortably support a healthy defence budget) we would all get so depressed to eat would be a problem.

      • jimmy says:

        Let me say this with some form of credibilty. Mom worked for one of the biggest oil companies at that time in the world.One of the big three for close to 20 years worked her way up to director level (one of the first female in the early 90s). Met the henchman sanni himself was very pleasant to her. The point. I focus on so as to drive home the point is to explain how much the f.g is capable of collecting. Let me give another example the money that a certain dept for certain state collects in revenue per quarter exceeds 5billion naira.even if you divide 20 billion naira by 160 it is a heck of a lot of money for one department. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

      • Are James says:


      • jimmy says:

        Much respect for your comments .I will go a little bit further.The current CAS in one of his first statements went straight to the point of the airforce needing more funds and needing task specific equipment that needs to be purchased.The f.g including some of my respected bloggers have they they cannot afford such expensive purchases. However the credibility test begins to fail when : 1) just one of the big companies discloses that annually they pay $1 billion in taxes. 2) there are other big oil companies that pay similar staggering amounts. 3) We are facing a crisis where bombings are occuring on a weekly basis and yet we are still penny pinching. Dss should be ramped up. NA intel should be ramped up. 4) money real hard cash needs to spent to expand the airforce and to buy the airframes. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

      • asorockweb says:

        I see.

        I do agree that CAPEX on defence should be raised; since only about US$300million was officially budgeted for CAPEX, I would say it should be US$1.2billion – sustained.

        But budgeting is a zero sum gain.

        Since there is no line item in the budget for corruption, when defence goes up by US$1billion, that money has to come from somewhere else.

        If we can’t get rid of subsidy on fuel, or cut lawmakers’ pay package, then we are talking Agriculture, Health or Education.

        The alternative, which we are using now is to borrow.

        But, let’s do what we have to do – defence CAPEX has to go up. NA and NAF have to be re-capitalized.

      • asorockweb says:

        *zero-sum game

  65. peccavi says:

    Abeg leave Chad alone.
    Let them feed their population first, na to dey fight them sabi.
    We are still yet to see a Strategc Defence Review in Nigeria or even each service branch (except the Navy) performing a strategic review to define their goals and objectives.
    Thus saying which aircraft is which is a waste of time as we don’t even know our doctrine.

  66. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga Aok, I would like to think that the ‘foreign input’ is deliberate on the grounds of self preservation! Why hand over the most powerful weapon in ur arsenal when nationalism can inspire him to use on u someday! Its about control! As for the ‘foreign input’ as long as money talks, u have their loyalty!

    ‘…The Mig 29 has been
    flying for almost 30 years
    and I’m sure the
    Chadians will not be
    getting the current
    versions but the older
    Will we look back in five
    years on this blog and
    see whether the
    refurbished Alphas, C130s
    and G222 are still flying?
    Before deciding on our
    fighters, let’s review the
    infrastructure to support
    This is PURE GOLD

    The hind would have made it but for the paranoia of the Ugandans!

  67. ifiok umoeka says:

    ‘…The first constituent part of
    the NAF concept of
    operation is the Active
    Defence component. It is
    anchored on the
    maintenance of a credible
    defensive posture. This is
    derived from the national
    foreign policy objective that
    Nigeria has no territorial
    expansionist ambition, but
    would ensure that her
    territorial integrity is
    protected and not violated.
    It follows therefore that the
    NAF must be strategically
    defensive. This stance
    should act as deterrence to
    a potential enemy.
    However, should deterrence
    fail, the enemy should be
    subdued by the employment
    of air power. To accomplish
    this, the NAF must carry the
    war to the enemy, hence
    the forward engagement
    Forward Engagement is the
    other component,…’

    Oga Beegz, Oga Peccavi raised a very important point (an opinion I share) can we discuss based on this?

  68. beegeagle says:

    Carry on smartly…

    • peccavi says:

      For a article that was actually sane. But not saying anything we don’t know already

    • Alibo says:

      Some of the personnel of the Nigeria Armed Forces are muslims and Kanuris the dominant tribe in Bornu State, so it is to be expected that some of these people would sympathise and support with Boko Haram. The largest ancestorial grouping amongst white Americans are those of German descent. During World War 2, they were generally assigned to the Pacific theatre together with Italian Americans. Japanese Americans were assigned to the European theatre. Our top brass should temporarily reassign the Kanuri officers elsewhere until BH is subdued.

      • jimmy says:

        OGA ALIBO
        Please tell me What happens to a Kanuri born officer who goes into battle that is neither Christian or a Muslim DOES HE LEAD THEM INTO AN AMBUSH?
        Well half my family is Muslim and Christian.Sunday through Wednesday do I Fight for the infidel or Thursday through Sunday then I join the Jihad?
        To all my beegeagle brothers let us be very careful about what the western press writes about the Nigerian Army because :Not everything should be swallowed.
        1.Boko haram has shown a ruthlessness to especially kill Muslims more so than any extremists group outside of THE AQ in IRAQ
        2.There have been VERIFIED REPORTS OF soldiers who have been tried and convicted and COURT-MASHALLED those we do not need to give the benefit of doubt however for the rest of the KANURI speaking Muslim/officers of Borno descent who happen to be in the army We as Nigerians MUST show them 100%+ support until proven otherwise .
        3. The Japanese Soldiers who fought in ww2 belonged to the 442 regiment. They were ferocious in battle and in their Loyalty to America.THEY WERE THE MOST DECORATED REGIMENT AND THEIR MOTTO WAS GO FOR BROKE.
        4 One ARMY officer we know of ( a major) has died in this war ( SEE ABIYAMO ) he VOLUNTEERED TO FIGHT HE WAS IN THE ARTILLERY brigade He crossed over to help the sf because he grew up in these hills b/w Borno and Cameroon. .Why don’t western publications carry such stories why do they ALWAYS carry NEGATIVE STORIES WE ON THIS BLOG DO NOT NEED TO JOIN THEM.
        5 . Let us as Nigerians carry such positive stories these men and women who have died DID THEY DIE IN VAIN ? Does a bullet distinguish between Muslim and Christian Hausa,Yoruba and Ibo .
        6. It can be estimated by the time this war ends 90%+ of the victims will be Muslims – and from Borno State.
        7. A two star general who lost the confidence of his men was removed within 24 hours did they report that in a positive spin no , it has to be negative.
        IN CONCLUSION CRITICIZING is one thing CONSTRUCTIVE JOURNALISM is another during the Niger delta insurgency A western journalist wrote how Nigerian pilots couldn’t master the art of flying helicopters, we have a helicopter training school in Nigeria, we were told the training of HOW TO NAVIGATE THE SHALDAGS was tough in ISRAEL today , NIGERIA HAS 6+ .The one thing that has not changed is the venom . The one thing that does need to change is the Nigerian Army’s attitude towards social media, it is changing but not fast enough.
        Make i go cool of.

      • Are James says:

        This I believe is already being done.
        I made this exact deduction in an earlier post on this blog and somebody called me a ‘religious nutcase’. Every army tries to insulate its soldiers from negative messages coming from the enemy. I don’t know why truth and clear facts coming from events on ground should be obfuscated on the altar of meaningless theory and military doctrinal posturing.
        The fact that some of the soldiers in theatre are new to the terrain has already caused many losses from ambushes and clear cases of lack of cooperation even sabotage from the local population but that is a lesser risk.

      • asorockweb says:

        What happens to the Kanuri officer who’s village is wipe out by BH?

        If the Igbo version of the Lord’s Resistance Army spring’s up in Igboland do you transfer all the Igbo officers?

        Or is this a special case “for the not so small” ethnic groups?

        I am sorry but such solutions should not be considered – the negatives far out weigh the potential positives.

        Kanuris and Moslems are the real victims of this war – they have a right to fight for their loved ones.

        Don’t let allegations, some of which were started by Boko Haram, lead you to draconian, illegal and ultimately, harmful “solutions”.

      • igbi says:

        @Alibo, Get your facts right for starters.

  69. ifiok umoeka says:

    Interesting exchange btw Doyin Okupe with Steve Sachar (hope I spelled it right) on Hard Talk

    • Are James says:

      Do younhave a link?..
      Some of the more memorable interviews on Hardtalk in the last fifteen years have been with Obasnjo, and Buhari,.

  70. freeegulf says:

    Oga Jimmy, you are always a breath of fresh air. mucho gracias.

    COIN isn’t tidy. its far more difficult than deploying troops around fixed defined lines. what we are witnessing is just the beginning. Nigerians are not used to this kind of hardship.
    poverty, corruption, ethnic strife we can face and deflect. but, warfare and insurgency, this is way pass our psyche. so expect more of this emotions and confusion a’ plenty.

    being pushed to a wall and digging a hole in that wall to find another route is deeply embedded in us. well, unfortunately ( or should i say fortunately for the long term) we cannot dig and find another lane this time. we have to face it, just the way Algeria did, and we have to defeat this malaise. this vermin is way more than politics, tribalism or even religion. although these cliche might give a mainstream argument to the present insurgency, but the monster has far outgrown design and purpose.
    power is a greedy thing and it corrupts absolutely. boko yeye have taste just the tip of this intoxicant, and they are not going to let go. so this campaign is going to be tough and pure determination. the question is can we be steadfast in this crisis and do the needful?

    willpower is the keyword here. do we have what it takes to contend with these malign force and defeat them?

    as we approach presidential elections, the insurgency is going to get worse. and is so sad that our NIGERIAN FACTOR will always be a handicap to progress and logical actions.

  71. Oje says:

    Oga Beeg, let us not allow nationalistic sentiments cloud our sense of judgment. Where has 10 years of Chinese military aquisition gotten us do far? Two pilots were killed in trainng accidents with the J-7, that same year a the Nigerian sattelite launched into orbit by China fell back to earth, show me one regional military heavyweight anywhere in the world that had %50 of its arsenal made in China?

    It is not America’s responsibility to take care of Nigeria’ needs. The American tax payers did not elect Obama to build our defense. In the space of 5 years the U.S has given to us free of charge two Warships that currently beats anything we have n oyr arsenal. NNS Thunder is the Warship with the longest continous range in Africa. These two vessels cost hundreds of millions of dollars. Rather han appreciate thia gesture we are busy spewing condembation like gattling guns on the Americans for not doing this or not doing that for us. We are not the babies of this world.

  72. Oje says:

    The Philipino Navy was given a similar stripped down Dhip, rather thab complain they have fitted theirs with state of the art Navtronics and missile, they kniw the Chinese are coming. I adk you to name ONE country out of the iver 200 commitee of nations that had assisted Nigeria in the area of defense and training. We spent $260 million to buy a dozen J-7 and we call that money well spent visavis ” hyped American systems” If we say Yanjee systems are crap ok fine, why havent we turned our attention to Russia? just two months ago Egypt secured a $1 billion arms package with Russia,where is Nigeria ? When i speak you label me pro American like its a disease but tell me is it not madness that while our neighbors and potentisl adverseries like Cameroon, Equitorial Guinea and Chad are acquiring state of the act hardware designed to negate what ever superiority Nigeria has over them we are buying made in Brazilian turbo prop light skinned aircrafts.

    • Are James says:

      More than two decades ago when Air Marshall Alfa was CAS, Nigeria was going to buy
      Northrop’s F5 combat plane incarnation called the F20 Tigershark, the US gov’t completely refused. I imagine since then we’ve made so many other bids over the years to buy top of the line American equipment that have also been rebuffed (even outside the sanction years of Abacha). I suspect the main reason for this was that at the period in question and of all African nations we were probably the most politically emancipated in terms of being able to think in a nationally self conscious way with the clear danger of becoming expansionist …so the Americans have been wary of having another Iran type country in the region. I think more recently however, the US has been finally coming round to the wisdom of a more meaningful defence sales regime (not just joint training cooperation) with Nigeria. So for the US sales dearth, it has been their myopic world view that caused it but things will soon change.

      It is the absence of direct military sales cooperation with Russia that i still can’t fathom. Could it be related to the long waiting time for Russian platforms?.
      Buying the latest SU-3x and MIG-2y series aircraft for instance from the Russian original manufacturer would probably only be possible for countries like Nigeria 2017 as all planned production are probably tied up in contracts with China, India, Pakistan,
      S. Arabia and Venezuela for now. So what a country like Nigeria do for its short term combat aircraft needs?, Buy second hand, even from farthest XYZ-stan country that has been careful enough to cold store and preserve the much needed combat jets and are ready to get rid of them for the cash to secure much needed natural gas supplies or whatever national problem that are currently grappling with.

      I think Nigerian NAF and NA defence planners need to think more long term in their defence horizon planning just like the NN commendably did a few years ago.
      They also need to understand the aerospace and defence market and its cycles, so that their needs can be fed in a timely manner into FGs negotiations with friendly governments and the defence manufacturers that are pure commercial organizations with shareholders and corporate planning cycles. Put simply, we have to understand our that we have a supply chain management problem within a political problem. If we get things right we can avoid costly mistakes of buying the wrong defence materiel at outrageous prices, with questionable quality and also we avoid such ridiculous extraordinary measures as rushing a few Generals from the war front on emergency trips around the world looking to buy much needed MRAPs (for example) from the showroom.

      • jimmy says:

        Well said oga are james. Let me add a few pointers to your brilliant summaries.As a nigerian american, I can honestly tell my nigerian generals America is not going to sell anything meaningful to the army until. America realises it is in her best interests.The best thing that could of happened to Nigeria was America saying no in private and then the dam burst and it was made public,now they know where not to go when they need to buy lethal weapons for the army. Expect to see a waning in. Influence in American /Nigerian. Over security issues, expect to see things. Like a dilution in the bi national security commision when this chibok is over.Expect to see more interactions with the french ,the chinese.the israelies and the russians these are the countries who will end up gaining the most from this evergrowing chasm. Expect to see Nigeria spend close to $10b on lethal army related weapons between now and 2015 with these countries. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

  73. beegeagle says:

    Oga Oje, the fact is that you appear to look on all things American with rose-coloured spectacles? Was NIGCOMSAT unique in haven deorbited? No other satellites have? What is new on the Philippine Navy ships…missiles, torpedoes, SAMs or what? Whatever you make of Chinese hardware, it is on the strength of same that neither Russia nor America would dare to attack that China fielding “useless” Chinese-made weaponry. Figure it out for yourself

    Why won’t you be sometimes labelled “blindly pro-American” to the exclusion of your own national interest when you are on record as haven blurted out “F22 is the best fighter in the world” in absolutely unrelated circumstances? Is the NAF a candidate for the ownership of same? What does that have to do with Nigeria’s quest for 4G jets and a meaningful discussion of a possible choice between the attainable options that are the MiG 29 and the Su-30? I shall be no fan boy for any unattainable hardware system nor one which we receive with our arms tied to the sales table. I am sure that even given three free jets…a Su-30, F16 and JF-17 Thunder, the F16 will arrive as the most stripped down. So what do I need that for, added to the lectures, whereas I am neither star-struck nor sadomasochistic?

    Much more than YOURSELF, I have EXTENSIVELY dwelt on the gains of US-Nigeria military cooperation. I have thanked them vigorously and brought attention to bear on their benevolence. So because the NNS Thunder is temporarily our biggest seaworthy ship we should stay stuck in a time warp and not explore emerging opportunities, including those which are sure to land fighting ships? Is the Nigerian Navy stronger than those of Pakistan, Egypt and Thailand which field Chinese-built frigates?

    Sometimes, you sound star-struck about all things American to the point of jeopardising our national interest. It is unfathomable that after the Nigerian military was crippled by arms embargoes emplaced by the West, there are any who, pursuant to any flights of fancy, are still rooting for heavily politicised and perilous arms sales from that orbit.

    Since you probably do not know and are possibly too young to understand where we are coming from, please listen up. In the 1980s, today’s glib talk about corruption and human rights abuses did not mean anything to the West. All that mattered was the curtailment of the influence of the Soviets…the same kind of emerging paranoia about China which you lend yourself to. The same West propped up tyrants and/or corrupt regimes so long as they were willing to serve as bulwarks against Soviet expansionism. That was why Zia ul-Haq of Pakistan, Suharto of Indonesia etc got F16s. Not to mention African tyrants such as Siad Barre who got the sort of arms which Nigeria would not get from the USA even today.

    EVEN AT THAT, this same Nigeria, as long ago as 1986, requested the sale of F16s and KC-135 tankers. “What do you want to do with those?”, was the answer which we got. That was a Nigeria which was not so maligned as she is today, no thanks to the antics of HRW and AI. You just heard about how we also got turned down in our quest for F20 Tigersharks. And you can afford the luxury of time to sit and draw up wishlists around M1 Abrams tanks and F16 jets? It all sounds rather naive…sorry. I mean, even after our own establishment have uncharacteristically informed us about the refusal of their bid for DEFENSIVE equipment such as MRAPs, unarmed helics and uparmoured HMVVs? Please, come back down to reality and set aside pet peeves et al.

    I love America and have many consequential friends there, online and in reality alike. This blog is followed by big hitters even at the State Department and I can afford to play the sycophant just to curry favours like our so called sellout activists by turning this place to an anti-China ante room. However, playing fan boy will not materially advance the course of sustainable US-Nigeria relations. If I cannot tell them what they are doing wrong, I doubt that it pays them better. CHINA are currently engaging much better, unobtrusively, more respectfully, less sanctimoniously and they shall sweep away all competitors in no time unless some of the double standards entailed in US-Nigeria relations are set aside.

    By the way, while you dwelt extensively on the air crashes involving F7s, you forgot to mention that three of the fewer Western-made Agusta A109s have crashed? Selective amnesia? Feel free to wait some more for M1 tanks, A10 tankbusters, Apache attack helicopters and Arleigh Burke destroyers. Ten years from today, I ASSURE you that you shall still be waiting…like pro-Western compatriots have been rooting for F16s for nearly 30 years while running down even more potent competing brands to the extent that we now have what looks more like an Air National Guard than an airforce. Ethiopia and Uganda have lent themselves more to the advancement of U.S interests than Nigeria have. Why do they fly Su-27 and Su-30 jets and not F16s? Figure that out for yourself.

    Since I would rather not engage in an unproductive quest….not to mention being lectured on anything at all, I would take anything that American magnanimity yields while ACTIVELY seeking usable and potent alternatives from Russia, China and Israel. The packages will not be as bare-boned, there shall be no lectures on how to use them and I can get lethal and non-lethal systems with my money in hand. That suits me to a tee.

    SOME bizarre extremes of playing America’s bagpipe

  74. Oje says:

    Oga Beeg i am a realist and being a realist means thinking outdode ideological and patriotic sentiments. In the 80’s we bought a dozen Jaguar aircrafts from BAE and refused to honour our own side of the agreement with the payment, then the military took over and the rest is history. Now Nigeria was under the tyranical steel claws of IBB, Abacha and co, human right activists and journalists were killed, Nigeria became a Pariah state and it is this same period our military decided to go for American hardware?%80 of America’s military hardware are built by private companies but still under Congressional control hence they cannot fo business with Nigeria. Today things have changed, U.S Commandoes have been involved in training some of our military personnel, the State dept has repeatefly stressed the U. S will provide Nigeria with the necesary support in our uniformed interest of defeating terror. Theyve made seversl gestures including the transfer if two War Ships free.

    • CHYDE says:

      Oga Oje i really don’t think we are in the same country, don’t allow sentiments cloud your reasoning,

    • beegeagle says:

      The Americans have more access to me than you do, Oga Oje. If they need to set the records straight, we are open to bring carried along in that effort.

      But what we have just narrated to you is the march of Nigerian military history. No leader from Britain, America etc visited Abacha or welcomed him to their countries. Not so for IBB who met with the same leaders? Why? IBB was on the saddle during the Cold War and democracy was not yet a political virtue whereas Abacha came in after the collapse of the communist bloc and the push to win converts to democratic practice was on. So Abacha got closed out.

      If they imposed sanctions to fast-track the process of democratisation, then they must love us a lot. By the same token and knowing the comprehensive nature of the damage wreaked on our military asset base by sanctions, perhaps they should have helped to restore same to working order. Unfortunately, the West are only comfortable with prostrate military establishments in the 3rd World which they can ride roughshod over. That is why PREPARED nations such as Algeria, North Korea, Iran, Syria are not well-liked.

      NIGERIA MUST explore her options where natural bedfellows dither or play on our intelligence. This situation smacks of deja vu. It was a refusal to sell arms to the Nigerian military in 1966-67 which opened the way for the influx of the first-ever consignment of Soviet hardware into our stock holdings.

      The propensity of our Western partners to always want to impugn and deprive yet expect us to sit cross-legged until we show ourselves ready to meet their pseudo-idealistic standards and thereby qualify for the “peerless hardware” is what is driving Nigeria towards an unobtrusive China. They have only themselves to blame.

      We do not need the “best” weaponry. Only give us that which kills the enemy every time. Why do I need to be talked down on by anybody and still not get what I want when I can pass up Exocet, Otomat or Harpoon AShMs and get a C803 with a near-inescapable 97% kill ratio?

      There are potent options which can be sourced from elsewhere. I detest being harangued by anybody from WHATEVER nation. I would sooner seek out my options than waiting slavishly for any fantastic gear. Of the jets thus far sold to more than ten export customers, none beats the Su-27/30 in power and reach. Keep any Giffen goods else.

      We can attack any ship successfully using the C802 and defend same using the Barak SAM. In Africa, I am good to go against any army in T90 or MBT 2000 tanks. I am good to go in state-of-the-art Type 056 corvettes and Type 054 frigates from China and Daewoo LPDs from Korea. There is no reason to continue to listen to these annoying Westerners if all they do is deprive you of what you require and turn around to mock you if you are naive enough not to explore your options and sit waiting for validation.

      Our Western partners cannot continually seek to eat their cakes and have it or to hold all the aces all the time.

    • asorockweb says:

      The State department denied us non-lethal, excess defence materials that we could have used to protect our troops.

      Knowing the mind-set of some of our leaders, they may have been counting on a “yes”, and included said articles in our defence planning. That means we may have lost lives because somebody in Nigeria was expecting a “yes” from the US.

      Have’s the thing:

      US politics is complicated, and Nigeria’s politics is not easy. Expecting Nigerian leaders to master both US politics and Nigerian politics, before we buy desperately needed defence articles is not realistic.

  75. Oje says:

    Israel sold us two “piece of crap” called drones for $15 million apieace in 2006/7 yet demanded we pay for spares, fadt forward to today it us Americsn drones now doing RECON for us, where are the Drones? What happened to our own GULMA? Our military brass is siphonng billions of Naira for their pockets while buyng cheap crap which has seriously handicaped our military capability and made us a laughing stock yet you conveniently overlook that but instead you are citing America’s refusal to sell us F-5 Tiger sharks at a time when the geo political enviroment was very different from today..

    You keep making references to my saying the F-22 is the best fighter plane for now, yes that is true and for 15 years now its been the only 5th gen fighter in service. The PAK-FA is still in the drawing board. You as an expert n military hardware snd systems know this and pretending otherwise is futile. Now remind me again on how previous America’s refusal to sell us hardware and not our own incompete

    • asorockweb says:

      Oga Oje,

      It’s interesting that you blame Nigerians for the grounded Jaguars strike fighters, but blame Israel for the grounded drones.

      Just interesting.

      By the way, I blame Nigeria’s defence procurement practices for both failures.

  76. Oje says:

    tence is the readon for our militarys decline.

    • jimmy says:

      Couple of things you should know about the pedigree of some of us since you are new to this blog beegeagle’s parents studied in America and pardon me aburo for the liberty of saying this he has not only visited America but. as American friends and to the best of my personal knowledge does not have an anti American bone in his body he just states the facts.
      I on the other hand am a Nigerian American having lived even longer now in America than Nigeria .I do not know how old you.
      are but if you were around during the cold war you would see the hypocrisy and double standards of the us as it stands out even.The leahy upon which all this rubbish would dissappear before you could prononce. Barak let alone obama if nigeria gave the. us a mouth watering base in lagos.just imagine they allegedly would dash us humvee and the great mouth watering visit from potus himself just like he did recently with the filipino people where he went and christened a brand new base no?.I have. gritted my teeth because nigeria is the only corrupt country in the worl d.america does not sell weapons to nonhuman rights viola to rs like saudia arabia ooops my bad.
      The best thing that happened to the Nigerian _American relations was for America to turn them down next time they have
      $3m they spend it on the people who willsellthem weapons or mass produce their own igirigi.

  77. ifiok umoeka says:

    Oga Are, sorry saw ur request earlier 2day but was tied down! Here,

  78. Can somebody kindly wake Oga Oje up…it’s obvious he’s still in dreamland. Bros Oje, even in the light of overwhelming facts you still choose not to see reason why we should shop elsewhere . I mentioned somewhere in this blog that the US gave spare Humvees from Iraq/Afghanistan to Ghana(no beef there) but between Ghana and Nigeria who is in desperate need od those articles? We even said we would pay for them. I think its high time we stopped dreaming and do the needfull…look elsewhere for defence needs and others. 20 friends cannot be together for 20 years.

  79. yagazie says:

    Oga Oje….tje ‘Good Book’ says “Come and let us reason together…”. So let’s try.

    Politically, Nigeria has now been a functioning democracy now for 15 years- hell we even follow the American model of democratic governance. We also have one of the freest and most vibrant electronic/print media on the contient and also have vociferous NGOs and Civli liberty groups- that hold our Govt to account at every turn. Our professional millitary is also frimly under civilian control – remember the ‘doctrine of necessity’ saga?

    On the economic front, we run a ‘liberal/open-economy’ in which the private sector is allowed to flourish – again along American/western ideals of ‘free enterprise.’

    Yet now that we face the most deadly threat to our corporate existence since the end of the civil war in 1970, the Americans refuse to supply us with the lethal millitary equipment necessary to contain the BH insurgency- citing possible human rights violations by our millitary.


    ………However that does not stop them from supplying weapons to Eygpt (whose military carried out a coup and overthrew a democratically elected govt), Saudi Arabia (a bastion of democracy??), Bharain (another bastion of democracy??) or Morrocco (who have organised/held free and fair elections???). The same America that supported the then millitary dictatorships (who committed the most vile infringements of human rights against their citizens) in Latin America when it suited them.

    Oga Oje, please cast your mind back to the militancy in the Niger Delta. It was the refusal of the west to supply us with gun/patrol boats – despite the huge damage being wrought to our oil-infrastructure that necessitated our Govt turning to the Chinese – who then supplied us hundreds of gun-boats.

    Cast your mind back even further- we first approached the west to assit us build our Iron and Steel Complex- they refused asking what we needed such a complex industry for. Thus we turned to the Russians who built us Ajaokuta.

    Go back even further (maybe this time to the history books- depending on your age – no disrespect intended) – it was the refusal of the West to supply the Fed Govt with Arms during the Ngerian Civil War that prompted the then Govt of Gen. Yakubu Gowon to turn to Russia. In a nutshell- every nation acts in its own strategic interest.

    The West have their reasons (best known to them) for not supplying weapons to us.- even though we are prepared to pay for them. Fine no problem. That is their prerogative as it must be in their strategic interest to adapt such a posture.

    However it behoves us as a nation to act in our own ‘strategic national interest’ – and if that means turning to China, Russia, Pakistan, Ukraine Isreal and India etc for our arms needs, then we must do so. It is then up to our Govt officials (civilian and millitary) to put aside selfish primordial interests to get the best possible deal for our country when purchasing such necessary millitary equipment.

    China is currently the second largest economy in the World and they have embarked on a massive expansion/ upgrade of their millitary procuring very good indegenous/cloned equipment in the process- so much so that the Americans are now refocusing their strategic policy to piviot from the West/Atltantic towards the pacific region.

    The Chinese have made it abundantly clear that they are prepared to asist us in upgrading all aspects of our millitary infrastructure – so why should’nt we take them up on the offer – especially since they will supply us with the equipment we require and are prepared to pay for without imposing caveats/restrictions? Ditto the Russians, Pakistanis, Indians and the Ukrainians.

    Note that the Algerians, Ethopians, Eritreans, Angolans, Ugandans and Sudanese are amongt the african countries that have/operate some of the most potent fighter attack aircraft on the continent. Their figther jets (Su-27/30s and Mig 29s) are not Western. Even South Africa which for all intents and purposes can because of its history be classified as the most Westernized African Country, DOES NOT OPERATE AMERICAN fighter aircraft – it turned to Sweden for its fighter aircraft requirements.

    In a nutshell, we need to massively upgrade our millitary as it is in our strategic natinal interest to do so. We also have the financial wherewithal to fund such a massive upgrade. If the West in general and the Americans in partiular are for whatever reason(s) not prepared to assist us – then no hard feelings- we should move on and simply look east.

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