In countries in which the government is not as stupid as ours, capital spendings are at least 95%.
What this shows is that the military is underfunded. What I don’t understand is how we got to a level in which politicians salaries are actually competing with the defence budget.
This is why we continue to look to countries to dash us equipment, awoof, rather than budgeting properly for capital projects. And we wonder why some countries don’t take us seriously when we don’t take ourselves seriously.
May you live long OGA RKA. may you live to see your great grandchildren AMEN.
Amen O!, Oga Jimmy
This is PROFOUNDLY pathetic. It has gone on for over 20 years really and that is why we are where we are. Year on year, you hear about multi-billion dollar defence budgets yet we pick up factory-refurbished US$4m Hind helicopters in PAIRS while militarily purposeful countries such as Sudan, with less than one-eighth of our financial werewithal, pick them up by the DOZEN.
How does the National Assembly with less than 500 members in both chambers, including some pro-BH turncoats, have a budget that is larger than that of the NA with over 100,000 men and at a time of war? Yet these clowns keep on condemning each attack and summoning service chiefs to no decipherable end? Yet tomorrow Senator Zanna would run to BBC Hausa and CNN to proclaim that the NA are ill-equipped for the task, saying so with a finality akin to eureka and feeling good about himself BUT never telling them that his emoluments are one reason why money cannot be freed up to procure military hardware?
The cost of running this government is absurd and killing Nigeria, literally.
If so called civil society groups were serious, they should be camped out the three zones arms permanently till this legislooters take a massive cut in pay. Instead they are doing #
bringourgirlsback. Mtchew… All cos of 2015 permutations.
As the chart shows, the inadequate capital expenditure budget is also usually underspent year in year out. Someone should explain how the outlay for helicopters add up at all in the light of the prevailing prices.
Let me tell you what all these mean – Nigeria is just a country run by business men masquerading as politicians, a backwater country nobody loves and would do nothing to defend. Sorry for you patriots, you are already late to the party.
The heaviness of the recurrent expenditure is also instructive in the light of reports that field allowances are not paid regularly. So what happens to the money?. I will tell you. (i) resting in banks and sustaining the fragile financial system, please don’t ask about the interest accrued if you value my life. (ii) pension and gratuities for hundreds of young prematurely retired officers, (iii) you guessed it already-diesel, consumables et.c (iv) medicals (v) field allowances for NE deployed soldiers and UN / AU missions who would normally be paid first. The peace keeping allowances are refunded by the UN/AU with profit accruing to the MOD.
The people to blame have been rightly identified as members of the national assembly, members of the executive arm with something approaching complete defence illiteracy and the top echelon of the armed forces.
I was just coming to that. WHY all the lies and incongruency? When did it become a crime to acquire hardware for the military? A factory-refurbished Mi-24V worthy of acquisition would cost US$4m at the very least. So how do Mi-35s and Mi-34s in combo cost US$1+ million? A new Mi-35M would cost a minimum of US$12m. How come six cost US$11+ million. Why do we lie so much about everything? If that entails annual servicing costs, will those choppers be delivered to us before 2017 going by that laughable outlay? WHAT really is the matter with us?
Thank you guys
I was beginning to think I was going mad. OGA BEEGS knows me. I will speak always FROM A POINT OF INTEGRITY. These ba—–ds will CALL THE THREE SERVICE CHIEFS after each bombing to pontificate the three service chiefs should at the next meeting have one voice in unision since the Members of the NASS love Nigeria so much It is very Important each member DO THEIR national duty and donate 10 % of their entire salary allowances included to the WAR EFFORT.
i have had relatives in GOVT where OBJ ( He will rot in hell) seized the entire annual budget of the said state ( LAGOS) for two years the state survived.
You fellow bloggers if Nigeria spent $10 b on meaningful task specific equipment this year 2014 till 2015 ( july) ask yourself do you think Nigeria would survive ? how much IS THE F.G. of the day willing to spend to prevent ANOTHER BOMBING IN abuja ?or port harcourt? or ekiti ? nnewi?
What is the life of a wretched semi illiterate Nigerian hausa GIRL Born in Chibok worth? . i just want to know maybe we dash our way out of this crises.
Since we deal with REAL ISSUES THAT REQUIRE REAL SOLUTIONS HERE IT IS:
The federal govt needs to set us a defense PROCUREMENT fund ( $10b) NOW
1. The initial deposit will come from the 10% that the NASS MEMBERS will willingly donate out of their pocket
2. The rest will come from the F.G. in terms of borrowing , Accruing from the sale of f.g. assets and selling of oil and other products
3. The MONEY WILL BE USED IN A TRANSPARENT WAY TO BE DIVIDED equally among the big four ARMY, NAVY, AIRFORCE AND THE NSA
4. The money ( $10b) cannot be used for salaries or admin it need to be used for procurement and procurement only.
5 This should be repeated ever year for the next five years amounting to $50b of BADLY NEEDED EQUIPMENT OF THE LETHAL VARIETY.
Look at the recurrent expenditure of the office of the NSA. That money is a black hole backed by law. I assume presidential guards, some internal security missions and maybe a lot of political higgy hagga come in there… but that’s still a lot for a small department under the presidency.
Going forward, Mr President must not forward any defence budget which does not entail a minimum of 30% devoted to the PROCUREMENT OF ARMAMENTS to the National Assembly. It is either we downsize the military or we increase the defence budget.
God, this is so shameful. Don’t you see why years after IEDs have been prematurely dispatching troops in MDGR and DMTR to the great beyond, we are only now reaching for MRAPs? The NA in full combat operations setting aside a laughable 4% for the procurement of military hardware?
Like I said before, I blame the military for emasculating themselves. When we had FMGs in the 1980s and 1990s, the likes of IBB were either trying to advertise their pro-Western credentials and refusing to buy what was potent and attainable? As a boy, I remember hearing my elder brother in 1986 say that Zimbabwe wanted to buy “look down shoot down” MiG 29s. Nigerians were drooling over F16s to look more Catholic than the Pope and have remained empty-handed till date because we know nothing and learn nothing.
Abacha could not even be moved to buy USED Mi-24s as well, perhaps waiting to be sold Apaches? He was alive when Ethiopia acquired Su-27s but sat square and failed to smell the coffee?
Sorry, past military regimes were just as culpable in the under-resourcing of the military. It is even more unfortunate that theyò could have stocked the armouries without recourse to any oversight and issued a decree to that effect. They spent fifteen years INJURING our most sacred national institution.
It is a black day for a black man…
No be today this thing start, it’s only now we are beginning to feel the effects of such uncontrolled largese. A country where ‘budgets for 500’ +/- people outstrips that of a national army or whose presidential fleet has more brand new aircrafts than the Airforce is certainly spoiling for an embarrassing fate.
After all the shout of ‘oil money’ and ‘rich country’, infographics like these simply lay bare where the bulk of the money goes.
Stuff like revamping our steel complex, cutting frivolity, eliminating dodgy procurements of hardware to commensurate allocation of funds to where needed is what is needed right now plus more unwritten aspects.
The money keeps coming in,…… And the beat goes on.
South Africa ‘s economy is actually going to CONTRACT THIS YEAR by up 1% due to their recently concluded strike at their Mines. What is more baffling despite a raging insurgency Nigeria by the most conservative of ESTIMATES will see her economy grow by at least 6%
This is where we are at . The reality CONSTRUCTIVE REALITY IS WE NEED SPEND MORE and ask for less.
FDI in Nigeria is funny. I am sure it is not sistainable because a serious foreign investor is gping to ask himself- why ate things so easy, why am i bringing in $100m and making $150m in the first year?. why am i paying just the tax i can negotiate while thete are clear host govt needs like defence and security, infrastructure..et.c. So the next thing such investors do is to cpassify Nigeria as a high return high risk country because nothing that good lasts for ever. The standard for high return high risk is play it safe, dont over establish, dont employ much.l, stay ready to cash out.
Hmmn, I’m kind of developing a headache, need to sleep over this otherwise I’ll go nuts. See if I can make sense out of it later
Well, nothing new here but I will like to pour out my heart as I may not have another opportunity. My first comment when I joined this blog if I remember correctly, was this: why do all our retired service chiefs become multi-millionaires or billionaires after retiring? Well, there you have it. Need I talk about a retired admiral whose multi-million dollar apartment towers are being rented by an oil company in PH? This is just for defense, what happens in other government ministries is also bewildering. Isn’t it a shame that budget planners do not see this as a problem? Is it a shame that the army which is expected to stump terrorism is receiving 4% of the total security budget of which 95% is recurrent expenditure and a mere 5% for capital expenditure of which a part will be embezzled? You now understand why they cant go beyond hilux, Chinese 2-ton trucks, and rusty rifles. Another point to note however is this: If 95% of the army’s budget is for recurrent exp., why are our boys in the field still complaining of withheld payment of wages? Isnt it a shame that less than 500 politicians (thanks Oga Jimmy) are allocated more funding than the army in a time of emergency? This is crazy stuff and the funny thing is rather than probe this issue their most predictable action is to cover it up. Also, we shouldn’t shy away from the fact that apart from the navy that has spelt out in clear terms what they need by way of a strategic plan, other arms of the armed forces seemingly are not sure of what they need or are too shy to ask and include in the budget. Some bloggers may say they do but let me ask, how long will it take for a serious military (and government) to procure key defense equipment, upgrade trainers/light attack jets, procure fully equipped multirole jets and attack helics, overhaul and upgrade armoured vehicles or dispose of assets like the jaguar (which I’m sure will never fly again), and harness whatever satellite imaging capability our Nigcom Sat-X can produce to trace terrorist activities and stop the grand scale theft of oil in the Niger Delta?
Now our senators/house of rep members: Ours are a bunch of two faced greedy slimy hypocrites who do not have an atom of or desire for national interest and would rather run to the nearest foreign TV station or the US embassy to leak state secrets and criticize. I’m presently in a country which could be rightly defined as poor compared to Nigeria, but the level of national pride and patriotism here is amazing. I was asked why Nigeria has not been able to deal with BH, I didn’t know what to say and the guy told me, if this were to be his country they would have taken care of it and honestly, I had no doubt cos’ this country has a history, a decisive government and a very rugged battle hardened and tested military. Their defense inventory and military industry speaks to the seriousness of the government too. We need to be honest with ourselves, how long can our country survive the massive financial leakage and un-seriousness? Beyond defense, if recurrent exp., continues to hover at or above 70% of annual budget, should we expect to see real development keeping in mind the rapid population growth, dwindling oil revenue and increasing poverty?
The army and airforce beyond just coming to the front of TV to cry that they need money should in addition to what is immediately required to combat terrorism, like the navy, come up with their short, medium and long term strategic plans and goals, table their needs in front of the assembly. If they don’t have the capacity to do this, there are civilians in Beeg eagle’s blog that will do it for free for the sake of national interest, in all seriousness, no joke intended here. The CDS rather than being a friend and yes-man to the president should understand that he has the ear of the president in relation to defense matters and at the same time should serve as a strong advocate for the three services. If this is happening, only heaven knows. More to say but let me end here, I don taya to talk……..
Let me just finish for you by adding that no country in the world has our recurrent – capital exprnditure ratio in the defence sector. Not even Swaziland, Switzerland, Madagascat, Island of Samoa or any other peaceful gentle quiet country you might think of.
Flyaway cost of Globe Master 2; $225 M approx.
Military budget of Nigeria Navy Air-force and Army.$ 2.13B.
So our yearly defence budget is the equivalent of 10 globemasters?
Too many,dead,unproductive ‘independent’ states that leech on the F.G.’s budget and engage in practically no infrastructural development to improve productivity.These states use the money to pay civil servants engaged in little or no productive work, with recurrent expenditure eating everything.As the population grows with minimum growth in productivity the share of the cake(which we don’t even produce ourselves) that gets shared out to the population and its security services will drop leading to grave security problems.
This is not helped by an F.G. that keep giving tax concessions to its cronies.
F.G. get off your butts and start collecting taxes!!!
Oga beeg,Military Government to stock Armoury? lai lai. Coups plotters know that to remain in power you have to destroy the Machinery that brought you to power.
They are worse than democracy.
Our Governors and politicians are buying Luxury jets faster than our air-force can find el-cheapo dead fighter jets.
After-all, we are the Africa’s’ largest market for luxury jets
If our rich governors, bankers, pastors, ministers and music producers declare an air war on Boko Haram, dia own don finish be dat. …What!. 200 private jets and counting. All that is required is to rig them with air to ground rockets and bombs that can be dropped from the toilet mechanisms.
Even the air force has 3times more civilian jets than combat aircraft, if they get angry and change focus from NAOWA shopping to full scale civil jet attacks (dont ask me how), this nonsense war would be over in a week.
and this is why we keep experiencing coup after coup in this country.
I’m surprised it hasn’t happened yet with this level we have gotten to. look at this. the national assembly that hardly passes meaningful bills take a lot than the army who keep them there. pathetic
Are those figures real?
National Assembly $937.5m??
Please let this be a miscalculation
ItOga peccavi, I honestly wish I could tell you nah lie .however the sad thing is that it is true.The senate president earns close toN600 last year approx $3.5 million a year.@his house in benue state,his house stands out because it is one of those. Very few houses that has a helipad.
A brand new JF-17Block 2 – $20Mln-$25Mln
Used Entry SU27 jet – $25mln
Nigerian Millionaires jet – $30Mln -$50Mln
As Oga Beegs will always remind us; this is still a DEFSEC blog …..I think we need to thread on the political angle of defense carefully….I am just saying.
I agree Oga Ugobassey, however see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28042302 and understand how quickly the Iraqis are grasping reality and dealing with ISIS. Goes to show how much learning we still have to do as a country.
This is priceless
“I’ll be frank and say that we were deluded when we signed the contract [with the US],
We should have sought to buy other jet fighters like British, French and Russian to secure the air cover for our forces; if we had air cover we would have averted what had happened,”
He said that the process of buying US jets had been “long-winded”
Your damn right this is priceless. Big lesson for naija. Sometimes oddly enough US military assistance involves buying Russian gear for its allies just because of the long process and lobbyist actions for and against.
Yep. And the Russian jets will be delivered in 3 days.
No long ting.
Why again is Nigeria’s orders in a time of war taking forever ?
Here is a war-battered country which is practically being rebuilt from the ground up. Nigeria never ceases to whine about competing demands.
IN ONE MONTH and on account of the ISIL onslaught, an Iraq which already has an order for brand-new F16 jets KNOW that they need to reach for USED jets from Russia and Belarus. Real politik. For how long have I been saying “FG give us six used Su-27/30 jets and 24-30 new JF17 Thunder jets?” For how long has one been reminding us that to jumpstart the combat asset base of the NAF in 1967, the Gowon regime landed used MiG and Ilyushin jets in Nigeria SIXTY DAYS after the war commenced i.e between July and September.
During the Ethio-Eritrean War of 1998, the Ethiopians signed a deal for eight used Su-27 jets in April and they were delivered in June…SIXTY DAYS later. Now Iraq are on the cusp of reducing the workable delivery time to 30 days.
So what exactly is wrong with us in Nigeria? Is it cluelessness or discordant tunes by naysayers? Is it an indolent and corrupt buteaucracy? WHAT? The insurgency has been on for 45 months now. In 30 months, the Civil War had been won and lost?
In 45 MONTHS, we cannot saturate the frontlines with Hind attack helics? We placed an order for six Mi-171Sh Terminator assault helics in 2012. At a time of armed conflict, that token gesture has yet to materialise. At what epoch in the history of mankind are we going to show presence of mind and urgency in what we do FOR ONCE?
We do not have patriots in Government, as a matter of fact, we have never had a patriotic person in Government starting form the presidency. It ended with Gowon era. Government having a sense of shame and dignity also ended with Buhari in the 80s, that is why we are facing the current situation.
Talking about assets and acquisition, do you think the US gave us the non-lethal military aids just for nothing? I can boldly say that it is to tie down our procurements and make our contractors look to the US for acquisition of obsolete and redundant yet over priced equipment. We need not be impressed by their donation therefore.
I am sorely disappointed by the DEFSEC though,by now we should not be thinking of acquisition through contractors first of all, we should have signed short term acquisition pact with Russia Government to Government and military to military, just as China and India did and are today reaping the benefits. We should by now have SU-27s patrolling our skies. Also, we should have a medium and long term developmental arrangement with Russia and China in terms of joint military hardware developmental programmes for all arms of the military and DICON.
In my opinion, it is not too late to change now, let us keep up our lamentation and pressure here, may be those at the top would finally wake up and look up to Russia for equipment and modernisation of our military.
Did you notice this part-
He said Iraq was acquiring second-hand jet fighters from Russia and Belarus “that should arrive in Iraq in two or three days”
Imagine the speed of the procurements…
Really, it exposes the pedestrian response of Nigeria to the North-east war.
I am still of the opinion that with proper resourcing, Nigeria would have neutralized this Boko haram threat a long time ago.
Without all the insults from these western hypocrites and their media…
The platforms making a difference for Syria against insurgents are Czezh L39 jets that we have two dozen of and have been refurbishing for 3 years. Chad ‘s new MIG 29 jets are currently being flown by east Europeans whilst local pilots us are being trained. There are a whole range of options available to us to keep the NAF running while we are still on the queue for the gold plate platforms.
We have a serious procurement management problem that is related to MOD’s commercial incompetency, corruption and weak civilian control of the military related to fear of the uniform. Eventually, when the two sides get tired jerking each other off or BH achieves a painfully embarrassing succes, politicians will summon the last courage and start asking the right questions. For now let the mediocrity continue.
Here comes the US bashing again. In the last 6 months or so we have been blogging about the brand new equipment and platforms we procured from China/Turkey/India. How come suddenly US is to be blamed for us not winning the war on BH? Concerning Nouri Maliki; this sudden insurgence in Iraq wouldn’t have arisen if the guy hadn’t been playing sectarian politics since being elected. Sometimes the best equipment cant win the war especially when pitted against human tenacity and an unbending will to persist; That is what ISISL is doing to Iraq.
Oga bassey true talk.
But we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
we can opine on 2 different issues at once.
True maliki is a stubborn big headed leader, ( I remember clearly as various US officials warned him of what his policies would lead to ), but the US on the other hand is famous for stranding their allies.
The Pakistanis know about this.
They signed a contract to outfight and reequip the Iraqi forces, maliki’s misbehavior is no excuse to delay such a contract.
It is tantamount to undermining Iraq’s security.
If the promised f-16c/ds and the apaches had been delivered, Iraq would not be in dire straits.
When it comes to Nigeria, it’s true they owe us nothing, and our utterly useless leadership is to blame for our predicament.
But the US just released 500 million usd to the Egyptians yesterday. The Egyptian govt in turn jailed the al Jazeera journalists for 7 to 10 years on bogus charges.
When confronted about this, John Kerry made a distinction between aid to Egypt, and aid to it’s military.
So, I am asking why can’t the US make such a distinction between Nigerian’s politicians, arguably the worst in the world, and the fighting men of the Nigerian army who have sacrificed themselves in the attempt to save innocence ?
Bro. Vets are here begging in d US every street light the are there having shift turns and u think the US gov shouldn’t invest in deteriorating situation here,obamber is seeking 500m$ to syria rebels just yesterday and Detroit dont have water.is it soldiers benefits being sat on.no soldier i know is happy of d policies of this country poke nosing on everything.the main reason US oligarch need trouble everywhere is to keep soldiers from returning and seeing the have no future and no benefits,which can turn ugly and violent
Oga ugo bassey, this is not about U.S bashing.
These are the realities of america’s geo-political actions and it’s consequent inevitable ripple effects.
Anyway the west claims they are our “friends” but constantly denigrates Nigeria at every turn, so why should we not be blunt enough to tell our “friends” a few home truths?
We should all liberate our minds from the danger of mental slavery and a single, persistent, negative, western propaganda-cum-narrative…
Note that i am not anti-west or anti-U.S but i know the Chinese, russians and other eastern allies hardly abuse Nigeria as much as western government propagandists and their lackeys in BBC, VOA etc
It’s not even the negative news that is the issue, it’s the grinding, grating insistence on mis-represention and outright lies about issues within Nigeria.
Constantly pushing their own narrative and making clear attempts at historical revisionism..
Listen to the BBC and VOA about all issues Nigerian for just one day- U will understand what i’m talking about…
OBAMA SEEKS US$500 MILLION FROM CONGRESS TO EQUIP MODERATE REBELS IN SYRIA
Half of that money will end up funding ISIL or some other yet to be named extremist groups.
The only force that has a strong reason for fighting ISIL in Syria, is the Syrian Armed Forces – the unbelievers that would be slaughtered if ISIL ever comes to power.
But, it’s impossible for the US to reverse it’s Syria policy, and ISIL’s takeover of Northern Iraq requires that “some” action be taken; thus we have a plan to fund Syrian rebels that have been “vetted”.
There will be consequences, but the US will not suffer from it.
It will be the Iraqis, the Syrians, the Lebanese and the Jordanians that will suffer the effects of this infusion of cash and arms to so called moderate rebel groups.
They are smarter than we think. The problem is the US has many masters;- democracy as an ideal, the Jewish lobby, the GCC countries and their lobby and then the free market as an ideology. America is not 100% against ISIL, If the group emerges as a very effective bulwark against Iran, they will not destroy it completely. The ISIL itself is a mutant organism over reaching beyond what it was created for by its creators, the Sunni GCC countries as far as I am concerned. For the US it is a balance. The Al Qaida element of the opposition in Syria should not get the upper hand and threaten western interests/Israel and yet Iran should be contained.
During the cold war the USA used to call alqaida a moderate rebel group. They funded them and trained them and look at what we have on our hands. yet the USA keeps doing the same today. In 20 years time, we will be having hundreds of alqaida-like groups all trained and funded by the US. it seems uncle sam is funding chaos outside his borders.
Why don’t they leave syria alone, is that too much to ask ?
These our yankee “friends” no go kill person.
Moderate islamists??? What does that even mean?
The two words together in the same space is an oxymoron.
Deja vu all over again?No limits to western Hypocrisy…
Does anybody remember U.S funding of Afghani Mujahedeen back in the day??
Osama bin Laden was created from this kind of U.S policy juxtapositioning.
Guess where the money will end up this time…
Iraqi receives used SU-24s
Another reports says Su-30SM
I believe the Su-24s are more likely – they used to be in the Iraqi inventory so finding pilots should be easier.
This makes no sense. $11 billion for 6 Mil 35m helicopters. I do not think that this budget is accurate. 100,000 man army consuming $5 billion a year for recurrent expenditures. The US spent $20 billion to build up Iraq’s 400,000 strong army including 350 battle tanks and 4000 APCs. I smell massive fraud and corruption in our military.
The sum should read $11 million.
The US spent US$1trillion in Iraqi
During my tour in Iraq 07 there was word that massive amount were being siphoned as in the case of a ac-130 with $2b in duffle bags loaded from dover base but never landed for it’s use in construction of iraq,money never mentioned in any congressional hearing so corruption is everywhere and Nigeria top military men are assets to the west and they can do anything steal and kill.my head hurts for everything especially Nigerians havin no love for each other is a shame
$5 Billion is Security budget. Military Budget is $900 M.
$900M/ 100k =$9000 per head.
$9000/12 months = $750/head/mnth
Approx =N=124,000/head/mnth salary.
Even if we remove corruption,that is what a soldier should be earning,talk-less of officer.
Army budget is $900 M *
In your calculation I don’t see room for capital projects. You are going to need to provide the soldiers with equipment. So the reasoning is erronous and the conclusion is still the same: underfunded! It appears clear to me that corruption is a monopoly of the politicians.
5 billion is the security budget, not the military budget !
The Armed forces, police, SSS, NSCDC, Costoms, etc… get their budget from the security budget. That is more than 500 000 personnel. Moreover the budget is never fully implemented and the little remaing for the army is never fully implemented as well.
This is underfunding on steroids !
That is exactly what i mean,the Army is underfunded.
HUP in the last 9yrs if u investigate most top gen have taken a courses in fort bragg which mil uni teaches a lot of things u are witnessing today in many areas,
I digress a bit;
A picture in this article of a California National Guard member training Nigerian Rangers. While I am happy the Nigerian troops are at least kitted uniformly (no body armour as I expect they are just in training), but why still stick with the AK47 even for a Special Ops Battalion?
I know the qualities of the AK, but at least a more modern version with optical sights will be better surely.
you can see these guys during training having their webbing. the frustrating thing is why troops on the frontline aren’t being provided with same.
how can they carry much ammo, grenades, canteen, water, when the little ammo pouches they have is solely on the vest.
we really should learn how to apply force in a very efficient manner, its the main problem bedeviling us in every facet of our daily Nigerian enterprise.
Wow I amazed that national guard unit is training a specialized battalion for special tops….I am truly ashamed of NA military structure as a whole no sense no logic
$11bn of 6 mi-35 gunships?
Just a typographical error. It is US$11 million
$11bn for 6 Mi-35 gunships? Who will believe that? This report is either inaccurate or this budget stinks of Massive Fraud.
I honestly wonder at these people. how do they feel when they hear of the death and suffering going on in Nigeria and still have the ability to play these games?
Oga rka: the AK is the daddy of assault rifles. In Sambisa its exactly what you want. You are not going t be engaging in a dismounted role over 300m (most likely). Its rugged, reliable, good round, but light. the M4 is good but 5.56 does not have stopping power. I’ve used a bull pup rifle my entire career but if gven the choice would always go 7.62 short Ak 47
Oga peccavi, I am all for the AK for it’s ruggedness and also for the stopping power of 7.62mm rounds (5.56mm didn’t cut it for the SAS as you probably know), but either they have more modern ones with sights attached (or can be attached), or they go in with NVG on operations.
I don’t want to see lives wasted not for the incompetence of the soldier, but for being ill-equipped for spec ops, especially when you are meant to infiltrate and on occasions stand alone.
Anyway, I’m sure the US instructors will have their say.
The instructors wont have a say, they have 35 days to deliver training and then they will go home.
An Ak with optics is good enough.
We have to define what the SF troops are doing first.
If is recce, then they need to travel light. AK still works or maybe the M4. Are we talking about assault then you want a weapon with stopping power, again AK, 5.56 Minimi LMG and 7.62 GPMG (or PKM).
all in all I say AK all the time. Regular troops can have iron sights, SF optics.
The PR consultancy firm in the US is working flat out.
Currently Nigeria Manufactures the AK-47 under license with the wooden stock.However as recently as APRIL/MAY when I was in NAIJA I noticed that members of the ARMY and POLICE were armed with the A74 with ribbed ammunition Magazines. The reality on the ground dictates what can and should be used as oga Peccavi has alluded to and he will probably know more than any of us however, modernization needs to be part of this reality, i agree on one thing that we have been seeing more optical scopes and more emphasis need to put on SNIPING.
* AK 74*
Makeshift Boko Haram camp in Miyanti and Bulungu have been sacked –
June 26, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Hmmn, I’m kind of developing a headache, need to sleep over this otherwise I’ll go nuts. See if I can make sense out of it later.
Me, I have been rendered speechless by that budget diagram on top this page and the shocking realities it has exposed. Ah ! Nigeria rotten….am still speechless.
Air Marshal Beegeagle,
I am sure you will find the below link interesting.
@Bharat, I thought the Pakis have in serrvice JF-17 block II already, surprised to hear that they have none, I wonder if Nigeria got into a deal for the block I in 2012, it’s not a really good fighter, but still better than the F-7. Well, one hopes block I can be upgraded to block II.
What will India do with her BVR capable MiG-21 Bisons? PAF will retire F-7PG, maybe Nigeria should see what India will do with her Bisons and think along that line for our F-7NI.
Actually, Oga Augustine according to original plan they should have been but for delays, they plan to induct the first 2 late this year. So, the first squadron should be ready by ready by early 2016. This block is of 50 airframes. Also they plan to introduce Block 3 in 2016. ( I feel chances are that it might get a bit delayed).
If as pointed out in the other thread, if the airframes are delivered, then they are of block-1. But, they also can be evaluation pieces awaiting block 2 airframes. Also all Block 1 in PAF service are to be upgraded to B-2.
Second thing first, It will be quite a time before PAF retires the F-7 PG fleet. The first 2 sqd. of JF-17 replaced A-5 and next inline are the aging Mirage fleet.
India will retire Mig-21 Bis in 2019 and Mig-21 Bison in 2025. Though ‘Bis’ were to be retired by 2016, the delay in Tejas is causing the shifting of dates. There is not much life let in Bis fleet and same will be of Bison fleet by 2025.
If you are asking about further updates of Mig 21 Bison ( MiG-21-Bis-93), then there will be none. The planned MiG-21-Bis-97 update never saw the light of the day. If required air-frame life extension study will be done.
If NAF can’t get the JF-17 Block II or is to stingy for the Suhkois/MiGs, we might as well go for IAI Kfirs with their “F-16” like sensor suite since they seem to be dead cheap and the Israelis are guaranteeing delivery within 12 months with full options.
Moreover NAF senior cadre have been drooling over the F-16 from time immemorial. This might be the closet they can come to smelling that aircraft.
Thanks for the info, May I also say kudos to the DHQ for joining the social media age. I know for my GENERALS in the NA , NAF, and NN it may be a bit of a struggle it may even be puzzling and frustrating and something that is not right with what you were taught growing up in the 80’s where no questions were asked or no answers were given, however if you guys want a definitive answer ask your children
The DHQ needs to tell their story, they have to move into the 21 st century whether it is reporting ( hopefully) good news or regrettably bad news we aught to be able to access Their SOCIAL media
it is a start, of something we have long advocated, well done and more grease to your elbows.
I know friends working for BudgIT, they get their source DIRECTLY from budget office and Finance guys using Freedom of Information, so I believe 99% on their report. Now let me further blow your mind The Nigerian Extractive Industry Agency NEITI says Nigeria makes 30 trillion naira from Oil and Gas Alone, when I saw the figure I screamed, this is EXCLUSIVE of Mining Royalties oh, the report is on Punch I hope you can search for the link but after that I just locked up for Nigeria, we shall say our own and Pray to Almighty someone listens.
Anyone watching BBC right now?
Please what are they saying again o, I’m yet to get home
Same old. We are weak and impotent against the enemy and brutal towards our people.Nothing new really.
I’m beginning to see the expansion of US African command. This was one of the narratives the colonist gave for establishing protectorates since we could not protect ourselves. Make I no go into simmilarities now and then this early morning. God dey.
Guys check this out,
The Nigerian Army is struggling to flush Boko Haram Islamist fighters out of their forest fastness, but it seems snakes may be doing the job for them.
Two suspected Boko Haram gunmen captured by local volunteers in Maiduguri, northeastern Nigeria, said they had fled the Sambisa Forest because of “incessant snake bites”, the Vanguard newspaper reports.
One of the suspects, Kolo Mustapha, said bees have also been known to join in the attacks, often leaving their victims fatally injured. Some of his fellow-fighters think there is a supernatural aspect to the attacks, fearing that Boko Haram’s victims are wreaking vengeance on their killers. Mustapha said he was caught because, like many others, he was trying to sneak back into town “as we have nowhere else to go”. “Our leaders have fled to Cameroon,” he added, saying they had forced local youths to join the group.
The other captive, Umar Abor, said “almost all our comrades are leaving the Sambisa because of constant attacks by snakes and bees”. Many accuse Boko Haram leaders of having brought the plague upon themselves by kidnapping and killing civilians. The Civilian JTF volunteers agree that fighters have been fleeing the forest in growing numbers over the past two weeks, and were helping the security forces find weapons caches.
If this is not indicative that Boko Haram is on the verge of collapse then i dont know what is.
Back to our moribound airforce i have to say this: The “stop gap” aquisition of those propeller airplanes we call fighter effectively killed any hope of Nigeria acquiring any 4th Gen fighter for at least a decade or more. Nigerias airforce does have the second largest and most advanced Helicopter Gunships after South Africa. For airlift and transport Nigeria has the most Cargo/transport aircrafts with about 8 in service.
Oga Oje, na waah o ! How do you know NAF won’t buy 4th Gen Jet till 2024 ? ? ?
F-7NI is the stop gap, not Super Tucano. NAF paid for F-8 III with BVR capability, but cancelled the contract.
In my opinion, Algerian Super-Hinds are superior to the ‘No-where-to-be-found-in-moment-of-need’ NAF Mi-24/35 Hinds. Probably NAF’s best two Hind versions were the ones Boko busted right under our air marshals’ noses inside our own airbase.
ISIL war booty from Mosul and Kirkuk
The list of military hardware captured after Iraq’s troops fled Mosul and Kirkuk includes,
* 4,000 medium machine-guns,
* 1,500 Humvees and other military vehicles,
* 50 state-of-the-art 155mm GPS-guided artillery pieces which can “aim like a sniper rifle”,
* 50 T-55 tanks and
* two helicopters.
They are also reported to have seized an eyewatering $427m from Mosul’s branch of Iraq’s central bank, boosting their coffers to independence levels
The fall of Mosul will reverberate across the world for years to come.
How many Nigerians will die if/when BH gets US$70million from ISIL?
June 27, 2014 at 1:21 am
However see http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28042302 and understand how quickly the Iraqis are grasping reality and dealing with ISIS. Goes to show how much learning we still have to do as a country.
If the story below is true, then bad news for Nigerian hopes of grabbing the last 6 ex-Indian Su-30 Flankers from Belarus…not sure news because those jets get linked to a new ‘suspected’ buyer every now and then
Here is the news related to this
Iraq got Su-24 jets in the first batch.
The point here also is that those jets are not being piloted by Iraqis. If you are serious about providing air power for your COIN campaign in a context where the enemy is wasting hundreds of civilian lives every month, you don’t wait to get all pilots trained before acting. You can buy the second hand jets and contract the pilots in a PMC arrangement to deliver the blows while the longer term acquisition proceeds apace.
I withhold comments
Let me ask a question.
What exactly is the problem with air support to Nigerian forces in the North East?
Again I will repeat my mantra: Analyse the problem first, before rushing to a solution.
The Nigerian manner is define a solution apply it to the problem and worry about whether it is correct or not later or more to the point move on to something else.
What is the problem with air support?
I am not suprised at the budget. We spend more money on recurrent expenditure than capital expenditures. The truth is that, not all the money will be released eventually.
Fellow cyber generals, there is noting to celebrate about the US government giving us what they termed nonlethal military equipments. I want to believe that the NAF actually ordered the JF-17 Thunder fighter jet Block II instead of the Block I,hence the delay in delivering the platforms as PAC started the production of the Block II not too long.Is it possible to
deliver used-fighter jets in three days? hmmm …
Person no even know what to talk again for dis budget money matter. Where do I start, where do I stop? All these kind of mismanaging a country that makes the youths madly rush to foreign embassy for escape visa wrongly called visiting visa.
June 27, 2014 at 3:25 am
Oga rugged7, the RPG inside your budget analysis chart gave me a technical knock out, so I forgot to say good job and well done to you. May God bless you for this expose, sure some highly placed Nigerians will see this mess. Now I know why we see Vickers tank with heavily rusted body parts driving around the streets of Maiduguri….no wonder Shilka AAA failed to fire. No wonder Aradu steadily decayed for 10 years, no wonder we were ‘forced’ to buy F-7 jet in this age of stealth jet fighters. No wonder our army has no automatic 40mm multiple grenade launcher in 2014.
….We have senate and reps committees on defense, right?
To cough out $500m buy equipment, na im hard us so?
Leave dem..let them be flipping out calculators and doing forex rates conversion for fifteen years like there are any hardware systems whose prices are denominated in naira. Goodie-goodie wannabe pacifist republic.
Perhaps the strategic plan is to pay the salaries and bear the operating costs of the military while begging or waiting for cast-off military hardware from other countries. That way, they do not have to readjust the outlandish outlay splashed out on the maintenance of the ultra-posh lifestyles of the political elite.
The country is sick.
I don’t think we are getting the $1bn for defence procurement this year. This money which is just 1/3rd of NASS budget is not going to come out in full. Anybody wanna bet?
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