NIGERIAN SENATE APPROVE PRESIDENT JONATHAN’S US$1 BILLION LOAN REQUEST TO FUND MILITARY PROCUREMENT, TRAINING AND LOGISTICS

President Gooduck Jonathan

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25 September, 2014

The Senate has approved $1 billion dollar loan requested by President Goodluck Jonathan to tackle insecurity and terrorism in the country. The approval, however, did not come easily as some lawmakers argued that President Jonathan breached the constitutionally laid down process of requesting for extrabudgetary funds.

But the Chairman Senate Committee on Finance said President Jonathan is in full compliance of the law on this matter. President Jonathan had written a letter asking the Senate in July to approve a $1 billion (about N165) loan for the fight against Boko Haram.

The President said he needed the cash to upgrade military equipment and for training as well as logistics for the Armed Forces. This is in addition to N968.127 billion voted for defence in the 2014 budget by the Federal Government.

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  1. saleh says:

    time for the permutations to start

  2. beegeagle says:

    Snippets already handy suggest that 12 Mi-35 attack helicopters, possibly upgraded for night time operations, are a foregone conclusion. This is aside from another consequential order for more advanced Mi-35M attack helicopters and Mi-171Sh Terminator asaault helicopters already sealed with Russia.

    Lately, it has come to light that the NA are in the hunt for brand-new T84 Oplot MBTs. Today, we have learnt about the fact that brand-new T72 tanks are also destined for Nigeria.

    http://yablor.ru/blogs/lvovskie-t-72-dlya-nigerii/4682216

    Unconfirmed but normally reliable reports also indicate that the NA are in line to receive BM-27 Uragan and BM-30 Smerch MRLS systems.

    From the Streit Group, Nigeria are possibly looking to acquire the TYPHOON MRAP.

    http://www.janes.com/article/43448/aad-streit-outlines-key-customers

    What else do you know?

  3. beegeagle says:

    NEWS AGENCY OF NIGERIA
    25/9/2014

    * 12 Mi-35 ATTACK HELICOPTERS TO BE ACQUIRED FROM BELARUS (aside from the August 2014 RUSSIAN order for more advanced Mi-35M and Mi-171Sh Terminator attack and assault helicopters)

    The Senate on Thursday approved a request for external borrowing of not more than N1 billion dollars by President Goodluck Jonathan to tackle security challenges in the
    country. This followed the consideration of the report of the Joint Committees on Finance, and Local and Foreign Debts on the
    loan request at plenary in Abuja.

    The Chairman of the Committee on Finance, Sen. Ahmad Makarfi (PDP-Kaduna), who presented the report,said the facility was not a cash loan but supply of military hardware to be paid over seven
    years.

    He said in view of the urgent need to restore normalcy in the country and since the loan did not attract interest, Nigeria should take advantage of the opportunity.According to him, the requested loan was for helicopters, ships, armament and hardware.

    “The 12 nos. M135 Helicopters being requested for now are
    appropriate for the nature of the operation and the terrain.“Belarus has accepted to give helicopters on the condition of installment payment over a seven-year period.

    “Other hardware, armament and equipment will be bought on the same terms from other European countries,’’ he said.

    Makarfi further said the joint committee discovered in its findings that the number of helicopters in the fleet of the Nigerian Air Force was inadequate for effective deployment. He said the reason for inadequate helicopters was due to inadequate funds for maintenance and recent burning of two helicopters by insurgents in Maiduguri. He further said that no new helicopter had been added to the fleet since 1998.

    The News Agency of Nigeria (NAN) reports that the Senate, however, went into a rowdy session prior to the approval as the lawmakers were divided over the matter.

    While some lawmakers applauded the effort of the joint committee and moved for immediate approval of the loan in view of the security challenges, others raised concerns about the legality of the approval.

    Sen. Olubunmi Adetumbi (APC-Ekiti),quoting the Appropriation Act and the constitution, argued that approving the loan without following laid down procedures had consequences. “This request to the best of our ability and with the assistance of the constitution, has consequences for the existing Appropriation Act,’’ he said.

    “We do not question the right of Mr President to ask for money but there is a process that needs to be followed,’’ he said.

    In the same vein, Sen. George Akume (PDP-Benue) called for
    appropriate procedures to be followed by the senate. “Nobody is against the fight against insurgency. My concern is that the appropriate thing should be done,’’ he said.

    The Senate President, Sen. David Mark, however, doused tension by explaining that the senate was not flouting any legal or constitutional provision as the borrowing was not in cash to attract any further procedure before approval. “ I will suggest that we go ahead and approve this without raising any issues that will have any security implications.

    “This is my appeal on this matter,’’ he said.

  4. CHYDE says:

    Since this doesn’t involve immedeate use of cash or ‘borrowing’ per say , its a very good idea, give me what I want and I’ll pay you within a period of 7 yrs, what I am not sure of is how ships fit into $1bln, I wonder what type of ship we are talking about.

    • ugobassey says:

      Patrol Crafts possibly.

      • beegeagle says:

        Not a chance.

        NA lined up for Oplot MBTs, T72 MBTs and Smerch MLRS, NAF for 4G jets and state-of-the-art gear and you think the NN would settle for anything less than a frigate and two corvettes?

        If the FG want to go on the cheap but with multi-tasking in view, the NN component could be either

        * a new Type 054A stealth frigate and
        * two new Type 056 stealth corvettes

        at a cost of about US$400m

        OR

        * a used German Type 122 frigate
        * two new Type 056 corvettes
        * three new Damen 8313-type 1,500+ ton OPVs (which would cost a total of about US$75m incl. 57mm main guns and 20mm cannons)

        at a cost of about US$275m

      • Are James says:

        Why am I so reluctant to spend so much out of this money on the navy?.
        Maybe because I am thinking that half of what we want to achieve with these floating high maintenance platforms is also possible with two squadrons of C802 equivalent-armed
        SU 30s aircraft in Benin and Uyo and batteries of land based Chinese anti ship missiles off the coasts of Lagos and Kula in Rovers state. That and Submarine in the medium term can secure the gulf of guinea…. just saying.

      • Are James says:

        *Kula in Bayelsa State*

      • jimmy says:

        The N.N . is the most progressive and technologically advanced of all the armed forces. There is an important dynamic going to play out come 2015.Lagos will become the 11th oil producing state.These Oil platforms alone based on the last one built costs $1.2B.There is no telling how much natural gas in proven commercial quantities and the security implications are sobering.The N.N needs to follow through on acquiring according to their own S.G.02 to S.G. 03 T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

      • drag_on says:

        Oga AreJames
        Na millitary politics o! You think navy go sidon look as Army and Airforce the share capital votes?

      • Augustine says:

        Oga drag-on I tried replying you but my comments fly up to the middle of the thread. No proof of new navy acquisitions beyond mere OPV.

      • Augustine says:

        Oga Are James, air force is not a replacement for the navy.

        Your Su-30 jet can loiter for 30 minutes at the edge of our EEZ then fuel is finishing, but a frigate will sit down there for 30 days and fuel still plenty. Frigate will do anti-submarine work for you, and transport troops/SF for amphibious landing with sea to land artillery fire support.

        NAF and NN are not interchangeable, let us get one good guided missile frigate and one good submarine, plus two anti-submarine helicopters….there will be peace.

      • Are James says:

        Valid point on EEZ patrol but when you are in the SU 30 league, you are already talking mid air refuelling capabilities which Nigeria should acquire one year after the SU 30 jets. Besides I don’t know if you really want to even use SU 30s for patrolling EEZ. I would use ATR 42 elint, data linkable to SU 30s. Now the C802A missile range is 500km. All you actually need to do is to conduct exercises and test those missile launching capabilities twice a year and everybody will be taking permission to approach your EEZ from hundreds of miles away. Who wan see fire?.

    • Are James says:

      This credit acquisition only applies to the choppers from Belarus I imagine. Belarus have no immediate threat. The country’s defence is being managed by Russia as far as I concerned so it makes sense to load off the unused stuff.

      • smartboy2000 says:

        My Lord CyberGenaral Are James, I totally agree with you. If we are going to procure eastern products, we might as well go to an eastern country that is stable. Belarus seems to be a stable country, hence procuring assets from them with technological exchange and maintenance is ideal. Ukraine seems to have assets we require, but the instability in the country makes me feel a bit uncomfortable in relying to much on assets from them. I believe our decision makers on Military Planning and Procurement would make the right decisions that would make us complete the military mission. God Bless The Federal Republic of Nigeria !!!

      • Augustine says:

        Nigeria has a ‘Defense Pact’ with Ukraine.

      • Augustine says:

        We don’t even know the sharing formula for this loan between army, navy, air force. Is it equal sharing?

      • Nnamdi says:

        In my opinion, I think we should use this new awakening as opportunity to start laying foundation for our foreign policy use of military. We all are aware that our national foreign policy takes care of West Africa and whole of Gulf of Guinea region as area of responsibility of some kind. So as we rebuild our Navy and air force on particular, home defence is highest priority yet regional protection is a natural responsibility we can’t shed off.

        To the west, we owe some kind of responsibility to as far as Sierra Leone’s western edge of EEZ, and to south east, all navies home to Gulf of Guinea should have minglings with us up to Angolan boundary.
        1/2

      • smartboy2000 says:

        Agreed My Lord CyberGeneral Augustine, but this pact was signed when Ukraine wasn’t in a state of war. Now that Ukraine is in a state of war, they are going to find it hard to export military assets and fulfil their commitments when their own military machinery is suffering from asset supply shortages. Without a shadow of a doubt, they are strapped for cash especially now that the price of gas supplied directly or indirectly from Russia has skyrocketed and winter is almost here, but I still believe their parliament might not sanction export of vast amounts of military assets in their own time of need. God Bless The Federal Republic of Nigeria !!!

      • Obix says:

        @Oga Augustine, what do you mean by a defence pact? Can you break down for us the details. I know of an MOU signed and not a comprehensive defence pact.

      • Are James says:

        There is no defence pact that says Ukraine will send troops to Nigeria Air must supply weapons to Nigeria Willy nilly. I believe @Beegeagle has some details on the MOU but I actually think it is a commercial MOU arrangement that has informed us buying a lot of wares from them first that could also have been bought from Russia. Also a lot of training and maintenance stuff were included. Very good YOU for Nigeria, congratulations to DHQ for signing it.

      • Obix says:

        Yes, Oga Are James. There’s no defence pact with obligatory terms.We have a robust MOU that can get us what we want at any time if the terms are acceptable. We have the same with Belarus and Russia.

      • Henry says:

        The MOU with belarus can be best seen with the current very flexible loan agreement for the delivery of 12 Helicopters to Nigeria, with payment over a 7 year period, and the BVST MIL maintenance facility in Nigeria.

        Oga Obix, for the BTR-4E IFV’s, do you have any idea on the actual numbers to be Procured?

      • Obix says:

        Oga Henry, not yet. Due to the public outcry, information is still sketchy. I’m still on it.

      • Augustine says:

        Oga Are James, as I said in my comment about what Obasanjo signed, no detail was released to public. Also, not all defense pacts involve sending troops to help in war or selling weapons by ‘force’ . There are loose defense pacts in modern times very different from the idea people have about 1940s type of bonded defense pact.

        Nigeria has one with ‘Defense Pact’ Pakistan, but are they sending us troops to fight Boko Haram ? No sir, there are many modern types of defense pacts that mean different things based on details of the document, usually not published page by page in most countries.

        “Nigeria and Pakistan yesterday pledged to strengthen military ties and sustained the defence pact they both signed two years ago.

        The Minister of State for Defence, Erelu Olusola Obada told a delegation of the Pakistani National Defence University who were in Nigeria on study tour that both countries have a very cordial military links since 1960.”

        http://allafrica.com/stories/201204110277.html

      • Augustine says:

        Oga Obix that is why I put it in quotation marks ‘Defence Pact’.

        Since we don’t know full details of the deal, I personally refuse to call it Defense Pact…..I call it ‘Defense Pact’….as it may not be a pact in the real sense of it. True details remain classified. Obasanjo was said to have signed ‘Something pact-like’ when France-Cameroon alliance was in hot threat over Bakassi, details of the signed documents were also not published by Obasanjo. NIPSS strategy experts in Kuru Jos, said off-line that it was to guarantee a Biafra War type of emergency arms supply to FG if Bakassi matter went wild…..and we may be seeing the benefit of it today in Boko Haram war.

      • Obix says:

        Oga Augustine, it sounds clearer now.

      • Augustine says:

        Yes sir Oga Obix

      • Augustine says:

        Nigeria should NOT complain o !

        Why are we just waking up? All these struggle to buy arms now and getting blocked in South Africa, blocked in Washington, blocked in Singapore, blocked in Ukraine… all because Nigeria does not listen, when this Beegeagle blog was screaming years ago about modernizing and rebuilding Nigerian military, our government refused to listen until now after Boko Haram has killed 13,000 innocent Nigerians, then we rush for weapons and get frustrated by blockages.

        Let me not sound like a stammerer, but I am one, so I repeat this maxim

        Best time to prepare for war time is peace time.

        (Extra caution for those who say Nigerian navy does not need submarines of missile frigates now, when you need it desperately, this is how you will get blocked like ice block.

      • Are James says:

        We need a Submarine and maybe a missile frigate that is netter than Aradu. That is it.
        Money is finite so a lot more capability gaps can be plugged by 4th Gen/4.5 Gen combat aircraft which are multi role and can cover all geographical theatres.

      • Augustine says:

        This thread having tech hiccups, can’t find some of my comments. I was trying to ask why we are just thinking of BTR-4E when it was available since 2006, we should not have bought the BTR-3U with it’s ‘toy guns’ that will run away from Boko Shilka four barrel 23mm guns with 7km maximum range and 3km effective range.

        Okay make nobody do us Cobra APC wayo again o !

        BTR-4E cost per unit was only $1 million in year 2009-2012.

        Iraq bought 420 units of BTR-4 and spread payments by installments over a four year period.

        Nigeria should buy full options please I beg you o !

        The BTR-4E has awesome speed 110 km/hr close to Otokar Cobra at 115 km/hr.

        BTR-4E with smoke dispensers, anti-tank guided missiles, 30mm cannon, 120mm cannon, double 23mm cannon, 30mm automatic grenade launchers.

        $250 million will get us 250 units of BTR-4E mixed high calibre weapons options.

        Nigerian army has NO REAL NATO STANDARD Infantry fighting vehicles today o !

        If we don’t want to spend that much for only 250 vehicles, we can buy 1,000 units of Cobra APC for the same $250 million armed full options in mixed equipment versions with 30mm cannon, 40mm automatic grenade launchers, smoke dispensers, anti-tank guided missiles, ground surveillance battlefield observation radars, amublance-MEDEVAC, 81mm mortars, command and control, remote control weapon stations, with all kinds of ammunition….bullets, high explosive, incendiary, armour piercing, etc.

        1,000 such heavily armed Cobras unleashed on Boko Haram all over the North East war theatre will match and over-match anything Boko Haram has to offer. Guaranteed !

      • Nnamdi says:

        2/2

        I believe we should be able to set up naval air stations in territories of Sierra Leone , Equatorial Guinea, Liberia (?) , Benin Republic, observatory posts off Sao Tome & Priccipe , and one or two more islands in Gulf of guinea zone. Bight of Guinea (Biafra) should have offshore observation stations (which I believe Nigerdock can construct locally right now) at definite intervals to watch movements around the zone.

        2/3 Helicopters and an observation / reconnaissance turboprop planes plus a platoon of SBS team and support troops for each air station on rotation. Add ability to get back up under 30mins from NNS Quorra in Lagos or Calabar Naval base. A major base , size of Maryland Cantonement in Ikeja for mixed services, in Sao Tome to house a frigate , 2/3 support boats, maritime helicopter group and equipment, a NA support brigade with her SF complement. This should be easily reinforceableb from PH and Calabar. Same replicated in S/Leone reinforeceable from Lagos.

        These will be detterent/ stabilization forces for those major FOBs. These are as far as maritime duties are concerned.

        Much have been suggested for land boundaries and neighbourhoods by other respectable bloggers. So I won’t bother repeating here.

        Bottom line of my opinion is that the naval and air assets required to meet out domestic and regional obligations far outnumbers the few we currently possess. It is either we live up to those obligations or other foreign powers do that to out security disadvantage. We have the foreign policy in place, we must now follow up with the military backing. That’s the only way we can command the influence and respect we deserve in Africa and UN. Anything short is irresponsible and only rewardable with such disgrace as we have faced in recent years by continental rivals and world powers.

        Simply my opinion.

      • Augustine says:

        Oga buchi happy birthday. May you celebrate the next one without fear of Boko Haram. May you celebrate the next one with a photo of Nigerian navy’s first ever submarine NNS Nigerian-Pride.
        Amen.

      • Augustine says:

        Are James says:
        September 27, 2014 at 7:41 am

        There would never be a land war between Nigeria and South Africa. A naval war is a possibility but very remote. Nigeria as far more innate humans capabilities to win any war against S. Africa many times over but all these facts are not relevant because it just will never happen in our lifetimes.

        Reply

        Oga Are James, I need 50 strong prophets with 50 year 100% track record to convince me of your above predictions.

        5 years ago the people of Ukraine will not believe they will be waging war against Russia in their own lifetime. I have checked war history from 100 years ago till date. Nobody can predict anything about tomorrow once human beings are involved…..and the Devil pressing remote control buttons.

      • Are James says:

        Sweet

      • Kola Adekola says:

        Oga Augustine, instead of buying huge numbers of Otokar Cobra, we can put high calibre weapons on Igigirigi and up production levels. I’m all for local sourcing.

        My oga’s, below is my two Kobo to the most important components of any military budget, Research and Development (R & D) and high tech combat capabilities.

        Why is no one talking about UUV’s? They can offer a shot cut to matching (or even surpassing) belligerent, but more advanced neighbours. They should give us stealthy, nimble and highly mobile underwater capabilities at low entry cost. We might even be able to get a head start of sorts from the OpenROV project (an open source UUV started by NASA engineer, Eric Stackpole), even though its little above a toy.
        For communications/detection, our fleet of UUV’s can rely on small (and difficult to distinguish from random jetsam and flotsam) mobile floating buoys or Unmanned surface vehicles (USV) that are self-powered by wave energy or (and) solar power and can remain at sea with little maintenance “till death do us part.” In the absence of a satellite, the buoys or USV’s can communicate with land based systems for accurate bearing and range references.
        With this sort of set up, we can quickly attain detection and deterrence in our EEZ for cheap.

        Talking further about drones, a gun or missile totting HELICOPTER mini drone would be highly effective for aerial reconnaissance, “shoot and run” or “shoot and hide” harassment tactics to shape the battle field against guerrilla forces like boko haram. Take asymmetric warfare to its limits against the mongrels.
        We have heads in the Gulma etc teams that can knock this sort of thing together out of existing civilian helicopter drones. R & D should be heavily represented in any military budget going forward, so that we are never caught napping again.

        Also, for our purchase of tanks. Every time I see Russian tank drills these days, they seem to be accompanied by attack helicopters. My Oga’s, is this to cover for some shortcoming that we too should be covering?

      • Are James says:

        Another area we could help the government with suggestions in the area of tech personnel is to have a small referral thing whereby smart automotive, aerospace, ballistics, electronics and data engineers anywhere in the world would have their CVs sent to DHQ for research, employment or consulting work with AFIT, DICON, AB UAV CENTER, NAEME and the similar departments in the Navy.

      • Obix says:

        @Oga Are James, the foundation is ready for that. A few years ago through NIDO (Nigerians In the Diaspora Organization) the diaspora data base was successfully launched and it brings together great Nigerians worldwide. The FG just need to set up an ambitious plan in the lines you suggested and get the logistics in place and things will start happening.

      • Augustine says:

        As Nigeria shares this $1 Billion loan like sliced bread for our three armed forces long neglected for 30 years, I don’t think the navy will get much because they have no direct involvement in Boko Haram war. I wish for equal sharing formula, but I don’t think FG and MoD will agree

        My guess is army takes lion’s share $500m, air force $300m, navy $200m.

        Well, if it is only $200m gets to the navy, they will now be the least powerful in conventional war firepower among our three armed forces, despite the fact that they have been the most innovative, creative, and technology driven

        I think the navy should just go buy one second hand Chinese Song class Submarine for $180m and use the balance to provide harbour submarine facilities. At least they will not look like an ordinary coast guard anymore and can be a deterrent to any country planning to harass Nigeria’s oil and gas business in our rich oceans where our national cake comes from

        Then Nigerian government/Navy should please work on Chinese government/Navy to give us one of their second hand 1990s model Chinese decommissioned Type 053H3 Guided Missile Frigates fully armed as an ‘appreciation’ gift and deal sweetener for the second hand Song Class submarine we buy from them.

        Just thinking that the navy should be sadly left behind and short changed, they are the ones that guard Nigeria’s oil and gas business that feeds the whole nation from Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri

      • Augustine says:

        If the above is done, we can leave NNS Aradu in the hands of the honourable Minister Of Defense Senator Musiliu Obanikoro who has personally lamented the ‘loss’ of NNS Aradu to decay, and vowed to revive the flagship of Nigerian navy. Baba mi ni Eko, oloye Obanikoro, NNS Aradu wa ni owo yin o, gasping for breath in a state of coma !

      • Still Martin says:

        Right now, giving the resource at hand (not potential) I don’t think getting a SUB would be wise. Yes its has the cool factor of including us in the list of nations which operate subs but there are still some gaps in our navy which needs to be filled before we can venture into the expensive business of running a sub (and all the added current expenditure it would bring to our budget) for now we need platform that would be able to meet our current challenges at sea. More of the Chinese OPVs (at least 2 more) and at least 1 Powerful Frigate (in name and armiment).. most one area we are lacking servely is in the area of LST.. I don’t know whatever became of the NNS AMBE (last I heard the NNS Ofiom was scrapped for parts which was used in repairing Ambe) Considering the role NNS Ambe played during the ecomog ops both militrary logistics (lifting men materials and tanks from 5 Ecowas nations to Monrovia) and Humanitarian (lifting 72000 refugees from Liberia to Lagos) .. Last I heard of NNS Ambe was a fire incident which destroyed most of the ship. Currently we have no LST ship which is a huge hindering factor on our ability to conduct joint operations and even extend and project our national interest. LST are the C130 of the navy and we seriously need to working towards filling that gap.

      • Bigbrovar says:

        Right now, giving the resource at hand (not potential) I don’t think getting a SUB would be wise. Yes its has the cool factor of including us in the list of nations which operate subs but there are still some gaps in our navy which needs to be filled before we can venture into the expensive business of running a sub (and all the added current expenditure it would bring to our budget) for now we need platform that would be able to meet our current challenges at sea. More of the Chinese OPVs (at least 2 more) and at least 1 Powerful Frigate (in name and armiment).. most one area we are lacking servely is in the area of LST.. I don’t know whatever became of the NNS AMBE (last I heard the NNS Ofiom was scrapped for parts which was used in repairing Ambe) Considering the role NNS Ambe played during the ecomog ops both militrary logistics (lifting men materials and tanks from 5 Ecowas nations to Monrovia) and Humanitarian (lifting 72000 refugees from Liberia to Lagos) .. Last I heard of NNS Ambe was a fire incident which destroyed most of the ship. Currently we have no LST ship which is a huge hindering factor on our ability to conduct joint operations and even extend and project our national interest. LST are the C130 of the navy and we seriously need to working towards filling that gap.

      • igbi says:

        There are two subs in the gulf of guinea, and those subs might be used for covert operations against us (eg: to provide weapons to mend) or to help south africa smuggle our oil. It is not about being cool, it is about a real threat. We need subs because we need supremacy in our waters.

      • Bigbrovar says:

        Right now the biggest threat we face in our waters are Piracy, and stealing of our oils (including illegal fishing from out EEZ) We will continue to lose billions until we fix this loop holes. The LST is needed in case we need to deploy troops and materials to Bakasi to protect Nigerians there😀 … The sub can come.. at least part of a mid term plan but for now I think we need to get the obvious threat fixed first.

      • igbi says:

        I just hope we can do both at the same time, but i will argue that our economy depends on our waters and that our waters depends on our supremacy in the golf of guinea. So we can’t let a foreign power outclass us in the golf of guinea. So we need subs. Don’t forget that those pirates are backed by countries and south africa could use its subs to help make piracy safer for thhe pirates. South Africa is not very comfortable with being second best. just beware of economy sabotage.

      • Augustine says:

        My ogas in the house, the final push is imminent we all know. Let us put ideas together for this final offensive and we can advise our army and air force on October one independence day. Just saying sha.

      • jimmy says:

        oga that goes on in every armoury in the world it is just not publicized.

      • asorockweb says:

        I read the twitter chat that the DDI had with members of the public and the press. It wasn’t as sensational as the PunchNG.com headline.

      • Are James says:

        Annoying.

      • Manny Aydel says:

        Gentlemen, knowing how the domestic press (and its lack of sophistication in reporting defence matters etc) could have leveraged that matter, I personally would have preferred Gen Olukolade not mentioning that at all in his tweet or using another line. Coming after the victories in Konduga and environs, that wasn’t something savvy at all.

      • Are James says:

        A submarine is definitely a requirement that would actually cut down on the number of surface assets you need to deploy. When adversaries know you have a submarine there is that air of danger like walking into a minefield when approaching your waters. Even with all the ASW stuff around, a skilled sub commander can do major damage. The Nigerian Navy is ready for submarine warfare in terms of organizational discipline and technological savvy but the FG is definitely not. I don’t think there is an appreciation at upper levels of gov’t of the new maintenance and safety assurance imperatives that is required for operating subs. We need to avoid killing hundreds of young sailors hundreds of metres below surface because an oxygen generator or ballast pump failed to operate failed to operate for instance because they were not maintained because money was not released because competing requirements did not allow because ….
        To put things in perspective, we need to remember the instance of the Russian Kursk submarine sinking and the operational reality that even south Africa’s subs are almost always in the docks ( 75% of the time).
        All those talking about second hand Chinese subs should rethink. I would prefer brand new Chinese or second hand German.

      • Oje says:

        Not sure you know what a defence pact is. Having a defence pact with a country in far away Eastern Europe with a quarter the size of Lagos and a basically small defence force?

  5. ugobassey says:

    If Every citizen and multinational company were taxed 5% for the next 4 years and the funds set aside as ‘Capital Expenditures on Security’ the FG might be able to raise over 2-3 Trillion Naira at the end of 4 years. We can then go Shopping:
    1) 25 Jet Fighters (Textron AirLand Scorpion )
    2) 100 T-72 Tanks
    3) 2 additional Frigate (The Type 054A)
    4) 1 Submarine (Type 036 Song Class)
    5) 50 short range SSM
    6) Increase our armed forces strength to 250,000

    • Are James says:

      Good man. You are one of the best bloggers here. This is a concrete, actionable idea instead of all the mushy ‘we love you all’ kisses blown at billionaire public office holders around here sometimes.

      The taxation is even necessary for the mere fact of making all Nigerians stakeholders in the National defence and security project and would further mitigate corruption and waste. People put an eagle eye on defence expenditures when the deductions from their pay checks are seen every month. The figure you quoted is accurate for realizable revenue from the tax. Nigerians spend half a trillion naira on recharge cards alone who knows how much more on beer. I don’t agree with the Scorpion jet, it is too pricey for a cut and join solution to COIN, let me remind you that SU 30s can also do ground attack very well with their IRSTs and its panoply of certified missiles, glide bombs and the few available Russian short range cruise missiles. They and the Super Tucanos are just right for that role. The SSMs should be long range, hope you are not confusing them with MLRSs, if we have long range SSMs Cameroon and Chad will not allow BokoHaram bases on their soil.

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      Dear Sir,
      Forget anything American including Air Scorpion, it would rather be mothballed if it does not win the US MOD competition, just like the Tiger shark F22 of the 80s, than sold to Nigeria. All happenings are no accident.

  6. jimmy says:

    I want to digress a little bit to the unseemly for some our politicians who spent the better part of the last six weeks overseas in countries that have no insurgency this is unseemly this loan request and in essence is a security financial request for the security and integrity of the continued existence of Nigeria is just does not seem important enough, this letter was sent in late July early August but the legislators were too busy on their first class booked vacation to consider it all the rules were followed for what is rightly considered an international emergency war on terrorism, thankfully the Chairman Senate Committee on Finance lived up to their word : They got back from vacation and asked for one week to review the bill this was last week everybody who was on the ctte had a chance to view the requests and since everything was properly done as I predicted the loan was secured.
    LET ME NOT FORGET MY MANNERS BY thanking my ABURO TO OPEN A THREAD . Please as one of the SELF APPOINTED BIG BROTHERS ON THIS BLOG , NO DERAILMENT, PLEASE LET US FOCUS AS OGA HENRY SAID WHAT WE ARE TO WITNESS HONESTLY IN TERMS OF REARMING THE NAF/ NA/ NN IS GOING TO BE MORE HISTORIC THAN WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE CIVIL WAR.
    END PART 1.

  7. Tobey says:

    Oga beegs, will this “grant” replace provisions for acquisitions in subsequent budgets? I just hope we get our T90s and Tucanos…also, a revamping of the NAF is of primary concern…we need SEPERATE strike aircraft, dedicated air-superiority fighters, and trainer aircraft…Not just buying fancy fighters…ill still keep hammering for Su-25s! for strike air craft…For Air superiority fighters, Our Su-27s should do just fine…As long as they have BVR capability, we should do just fine….As for our alphas, they should be relegated to training roles..This imminent spending spree will surely rival that of the Shagari era…Oga beegs, let the recommendations begin…We all know that DHQ top brass visit your humble abode from time to time.

  8. demola says:

    if the t-84oplots are new then why is the public fuze obix talked about in ukraine

    • asorockweb says:

      It’s just local politics – if the Ukraine wanted to have 500 Oplot’s they would have paid the factory to build it. Everything else is just eye service.

    • Obix says:

      @Oga Demola, just like Oga Asorockweb mentioned, it’s local politics. The Ukrainians don’t have enough tanks on the frontline so the masses don’t understand why the country should be exporting tanks.

      • Obix says:

        @Oga Demola, a few days ago the Ukrainian national guard got 10 units of refurbished and upgraded T64B tanks meant for export to Congo. According to the head of the national guard ” These tanks were to be exported to Congo, but the decision was made that you don’t sell such hardware when you are in a war”. This is the mood in the society.

      • jimmy says:

        OGA OBIX
        This is my first post concerning my worries about the Ukrainian Deal. T HE UKRAINIANS must of collected a down payment this is the second set of tanks we have heard from you are being stalled are they now just collecting money from AFRICAN COUNTRIES AND NOT ABLE TO DELIVER. I hope Nigeria has other countries to buy tanks from apart from Ukraine o Nah wah this Ukraine don become basket case o.
        So 4 X t-72 are stuck and 2X T 84 are stuck so weitin remain for them to give us?

  9. asorockweb says:

    What I would really like to see is a squadron of Sukhoi Su-34 patrolling our oceans and reminding everyone that, even if you strike at our assets, we can respond and sink your ships.

    When a potential adversary is building a base, they would ask: “what of Nigeria’s Sukhois, How do we protect against that?”

    When they are planning an expedition, they would ask “do we need to inform Nigeria?”

    Only the naïve will not try to cover all bases.

  10. asorockweb says:

    What I would really like to see is a squadron of Sukhoi Su-34 patrolling our oceans and reminding everyone that, even if you strike at our assets, we can respond and sink your ships.

    When a potential adversary is building a base, they would ask: “what of Nigeria’s Sukhois, How do we protect against that?”

    When they are planning an expedition, they would ask “do we need to inform Nigeria?”

    Only the naïve will not try to cover all bases.

  11. freeegulf says:

    well said oga Aso Rock.
    @oga Are James, you touched on a very vital issue – the air force v the navy battle plans. while a reasonably equipped air force, optimized for maritime warfare will be cheaper to operate than a dozen frigates and destroyers, however, do not forget the immense importance of the gulf of guinea to our national economy.

    airpower can easily deter would be adventurists from our coast and shoreline, but you will need the navy’s frigates and submarines to project this power beyond our shorelines and even far from our EEZ. the frigates and LPDs are just as important as the SU-30s and SU-34s.

    our immediate attention might be simply to secure our coastline. but once we are satisfied with that vision, we will have to look at the big picture. we have to look carefully at the gulf of guinea nations, and how the affairs in any one of these countries of the gulf affect us. this is where the navy comes in. so yes, i would say on the short term, get 4G jets and bring back the old maritime strike group. for the mid term, we need frigates, submarines, and LPDs. without these, there will always remain a threat coming from more powerful states with no territorial boundaries around the gulf.

    on another note, we need to start watching the activities of the Americans in Niger republic, and that of the french in chad. UAV overflights into Nigeria should strictly be controlled. yes, the current campaign in the NE is distracting us, but we should quickly get our act together and restrict overflights from these countries. we cant be another Pakistan, hell no. we don’t need the Americans in our backyard snooping with ISA, enough of all that smoke and mirrors.
    these countries would never be comfortable with a strong and self reliant Nigeria. our future lies here with us and not in Brussels, Washington, London, or Paris.

  12. jimmy says:

    Part2
    Going back to last week, the main Russian govt sanctioned Robo Export in a well timed statement disclosed that Nigeria has signed contracts to be supplied with a lot of Helicopters possibly based on the mi17 and 35.
    This week in a well timed statement the Ambassador of Russia stated the obvious we will give you what you need and want just do not take us for granted.This is not to play one country against the other, this is for Nigeria to get its armed forces act together as well as to prosecute this war to its justified conclusion. What honestly does Nigeria need from Russia.Let us also not be naive what does Russia need from Nigeria? Objectivity I.e do not follow the west blindly make decisions based on your best strategic interests at heart
    A country that will go out of its way to justify not selling you a hummer , should be aware that Nigeria has the right to look for its equivalent the Btr 6×6 or8X8 should and does require special attention. Useless speeches by some flunky from the American embassy signify nothing except that they have finally realizedNigeria has joined the billion dollar club of arm buying nations They missed out on a golden opportunity after gradually losing Egypt. They now stand to lose out on Nigeria oh well they can look on the bright side they dashed Ghana some export version Hummers.

    • chynedoo says:

      @Jimmy
      Well said brother.
      @General Beeg
      Pls open a thread for the experts on this blog to discuss the sort of hardware the Nigerian government could request/procure from Russia military, navy and airforce and the police not just for this insurgency but to also reposition our armed forces for the next decade at least.
      It has become necessary for any hardware procurement by the government to be built into some kind of strategic plan whether to meet short or long term needs. Again the government needs to realise that being the largest economy in Africa
      Pls oga Beeg we need this thread on serious discourse on how Nigeria should make the most of the government to government contact the Russians are offering Nigerian as regards upgrading our armed forces.
      Thank you sir!

      • chynedoo says:

        …being the largest economy in Africa, we need to develop a more strategic thinking and approach in terms of defence issues. If our economy is growing and we are overtaking countries that are traditionally seen as better armed, and better organised than us, then we need to equip our armed forces to be able to defend the economy and wealth we are creating as well as be able to counter both internal and external aggression that may sabotage the country’s progress.
        Although on paper we are surround by friendly countries (to some extent) but we also need to look at the scenario they might want to take or destroy what we have in other ways. Not just our neighbours, there are powerful countries in other places that may be uncomfortable with a country like Nigeria with a large young population, a sizeable Muslim population, a resource rich African country with the rate of economic growth seen in South East Asia and the like, a country that may not easily be beaten into line. We need to look at all the scenarios and build this into our threat analysis and do our hardware procurement based on immediate and longer term threats…

  13. Augustine says:

    Hey, me I have been shouting o ! Nigerian Navy should NOT remain a cheap-weak Coast Guard, better federal government buys at least a guided missile stealth frigate, a diesel-electric submarine, an anti-submarine aircraft or a couple of anti-submarine helicopters. Not only will they seize your $9.3m cash, they may one day seize your offshore oil rigs.

    South African navy to deploy guided missile frigates and submarines to Gulf of Guinea 2015
    =====================================================================

    One day there MAYBE another SAS Drakensberg type conflict, Nigeria Vs South Africa again on West African coast as it happened in Ivory Coast 2011 war, the weaker navy will be the one that will kneel down and beg even when it is being cheated. When submarine and missile navy shows up, OPV navy will run across Ahmadu Bello Way like a Crab avoiding capture on Bar Beech sand in Victoria Island . This time it will not be a supply ship SAS Drakensberg, it will be a Valour missile frigate with Super Lynx ASW Helicopter and Type 209 Attack Submarine Vs Ordinary Gun Boat OPV.

    http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=36370:africas-west-coast-is-next-navy-anti-piracy-deployment&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233

    He that is fore warned, should be fore armed. A word is enough for the wise. Avoid an ocean based ‘Boko Haram’ surprise in the near future.

    • jimmy says:

      Oga Augustine
      Man see the article this mornings.I honestly wrote a few lines then.I scrapped it I thought how cash strapped south Africa is that they could not even send a ship to Australia.Instead it is now confined to that tiny channel called Mozambique.I thought how affirmative action has so much destroyed the navy that due to crashes their subs are constantly being repaired.One was in dry dock for seven years
      My conclusion is two fold not everyone is going to sing kumbaya with us when we get out act together.Can they sail down the West coast yes they can it is a free ocean.Can they sustain a submarine voyage that long? very doubtful.The Nigerian Navy and the Airforce just got another reason to up their game.
      However the author was just trying to stir the pot.

    • igbi says:

      Who said we didn’t need submarines again ?
      Who said the threat could only come from our neighbors ?
      Here you have it, a nation with submarine is threatening us directly!
      I guess some people understand now that when threat is absent is when you arm up, we need a strong military ! Even when there is no threat.

  14. doziex says:

    Pardon me Gentlemen, this is NOT going to derail this thread.

    I am usually critical of our establishment, because some of the Bone headed policies that emanate from them.

    These folks are not even trying to pay attention at their very critical functions for our nation.

    So whose decision was it for Nigeria to take sides with Ukraine against Russia ???

    I don’t care how much of a bully the Russians have really been.

    Have we heard of India’s opinion ? Have we heard of china’s opinion ?

    Don’t hold your breath waiting, they are simply too sophisticated to put out any rigid stance.

    They will call for peace, and urge restraint, but would side with no one.

    Unless they have a national interest at stake.

    So how did a Nigerian official get to mouth off a position on this issue ?

    I am sure it is some know nothing at the UN at the behest of the US.

    The same US that is allowing us to twist in the wind with no weapons to fight BH.

    Nigerian officials should learn diplomacy 101.

    Empathize with Ukraine, hold their hands if you must, BUT DON’T TAKE NO DAGGONE POSITION OR VOTE AGAINST RUSSIA UNLESS WE HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT.

    UKRAINE is the one that has done damage to Nigeria’s foreign policy in the recent past.

    I have spoken many a time on this blog about VIKTOR BOUT the LORD OF WAR.

    WHO opened UKrainian soviet era arms depots, to UNITA, RUF and any African rebel group with some diamonds.

    Bout was an ex soviet colonel who ran an air freight company, which he used to ship all manner of weaponry to blood thirsty African rebels.

    That is why the americans have him locked up. Well, technically for arming Colombian rebels.

    But Africa is where Viktor Bout in connivance with Ukrainian authorities did his most damage.

    In one scenario, Viktor Bout’s air freight company purchased an ex NBA seatle super sonic team plane. Which he used to load up weapons, anti air craft guns, PKMs, RPGs, mortars and AK-47s, you know, the usual BH special.

    He did not even bother to paint over the logo of the NBA team.

    This plane flew several trips from Ukraine to Burkinafaso. It was offloaded there, then trucked with Charles Taylor timber trucks to kailahun (the AFRC/RUF) base in sierra leone.

    This was the genesis of the rebel counter offensive that culminated in the dec98/jan 99 freetown invasion.
    NA casualties and KIA was in the several hundreds, sierra leoneans died and were maimed in the thousands.

    Ukrainian officials were never held to account for turning a blind eye to viktor Bout’s activities.

    And now some Nigerian officials are backing Ukraine in their spat with moskow . A fight we have no dog in.
    SMH !!!

    • igbi says:

      I believe that our UN official’s stance on the ukrainian crisis is the reason RT went rogue on us in one of its articles. That woman needs to be removed. She can stay in the US and serve her real masters, let someone who has Nigeria’s interests inmind serve Nigeria in the UN.

      On an other note Oga Beegeagle, why are my youtube videos not appearing ? They were absolutely not out of topic.

      • Bharat says:

        I think it’s pretty unjustified on the part of RT. Business relationship and moral standings are two different aspects. See for example Nigeria and India.
        Nigeria is a part of OIC and constantly votes against India on Kashmir issue. She even voted for appointment of a special envoy for Kashmir by OIC in 2009 to take the case of Kashmir forward.
        But, still we are one of the largest trade partners of Nigeria. Similarly for the case of Saudi Arabia.
        Russia mustn’t mix the two, she can’t say she will enter into business relationship with only those who support her Crimea stance.

      • igbi says:

        I understand your meaning but my opinion is that all this is connected. For example, look at the US UN embassador’s actions whenever the subject is israel. Nomatter what Israel does the americans will veto any sanction against Israel and they will justify Israel’s actions by the now famous phrase: “israel has the right to defend itself”.
        Nigeria’s UN embassador takes decisions which don’t hold Nigeria’s national interests.
        Nomatter what she thinks is justified, we can’t allienate Russia and stand with the west which keeps showing us that it doesn’t value us and doesn’t take us seriously.
        As an Indian you can say Russia should make the distinction between moral standards and business, but as a Nigerian I can’t make that statement, all I want is for the alliance with Russia to go on. ( about a year or two ago I already knew that Russia was going to be a better and more reliable partner for us and I expressed my disenchantement about the west and the US right on this blog, but then the mood was verry pro US and I was called out for outstanding anti americanism, fun memories, the point is that at least now it is starting to enter the mindset of Nigerians that Nigeria’s interests are paramount.)

    • asorockweb says:

      Oga Doziex,

      I completely agree.

      No thought was applied to our Ukraine policy.

      We have no business take a stance. It is their conflict and they have been inter-twined for decades.

      Ukraine does not deserve special consideration. Weapons from the Ukraine killed dozens of Nigerian soldiers in Liberia/SL.

      Nigeria must remain neutral in this matter.

    • jimmy says:

      Preach!
      What you have just described is the doctrine of pragmatism.It is not in Nigeria’s strategic interests to get into these Silly spats between brothers( half of the people in Ukraine speak Russian) or between the US and Russia that is their own palavar. The policy makers and the Military advisers should always be governed by what is in Nigeria’s best interest it is not snuggling up to Russia or being a dependable vote for the US it needs to be said HOW MUCH does Nigeria need to gain form taking a stand.
      Last week THE US had a meeting with the coalition of the unwilling over ISIS@ that meeting it was the King of Saudi Arabia who was doing the most talking according to Time Magazine the US sec of state was told that if IRAN is invited to any consequential meetings all deals on the table are off. Nigeria needs to get a steel spine to act in their own interests. Egypt rebuffed AMERICA by indicating that any reference to Human rights would mean an early exit from the party and also they are more concerned with their local problems in the Desert where a low level conflict is brewing as well as the situation on their doorstep in Libya.
      Again Nigeria needs to focus inwards and stay neutral with these two countries when they decide to go toe- toe.

    • Augustine says:

      Oga doziex, well said. Nigeria remains neutral in Russia Vs Ukraine politics and war. Wetin concern fish with raincoat? No be inside water him dey live?

  15. drag_on says:

    The Navy should think carefully what they want.If the money isn’t much($300M for navy) they should go for:
    *The type 041(s20 export,no AIP but can be added afer-market) sub being ordered from china by pakistan,so that they can start operationaly use of subs. Dockyard may be a problem?
    *Reactivate and upgrade the lynx helicopters.
    *Buy 2 z-9EC anti-sub helios for the corvettes.
    *Implement arming of the Hamiliton class cutters with anti-ship missiles,torpedoes and CIWS as was the case with USCGC Mellon.
    *Partialy or Fully arm the Corvettes.
    or
    Splurg the entire money as part payment for the German type 212 (U212A,$500m).

  16. egbeigwe says:

    I have a strong suspicion that the whole money has already been spent. This approval is just to regularise the transactions.

    • Are James says:

      Very insightful observation.It is possible that this is all to service the payments for procurement contracts already signed with suppliers. That would even explain having a loan ontop of the previous $1billion special grant.

    • asorockweb says:

      Yes, I believe you have a case.

      The approval by the senate is about funding expenditures and contracts already signed.

      But we still have to let the powers that be know about the possibilities in terms of equipment and doctrine.

    • Augustine says:

      Me too Oga egbeigwe. I think the cash is already gone, but our suggestions might influence some changes for the better.

  17. beegeagle says:

    KILLING 2 BIRDS WITH ONE STONE…dual-purpose CONVENTIONAL AND ASYMMETRIC WARFARE equipment

    ISRAELI CARDOM 120mm mortar

    ISRAELI ORBITER UAV

    TURKISH TR-107 (copy of the Chinese Type 63 107mm multiple rocket launcher)

    ISRAELI SHIPYARDS SUPER DVORA MK.II 25M FAST PATROL CRAFT

    SOUTH AFRICAN MARAUDER MRAP

    SOUTH AFRICAN MATADOR MRAP

    • Are James says:

      All these are supported, thr UAVs mounted on land rovers are an amazing idea. Range restriction is almost eliminated. The S.Africah MRAP design is thoughtful, hope the gun has remote op capability. Their capacity to manufacture and deliver in time is also a concern.

  18. Augustine says:

    Oga jimmy, good morning sir.

    Please let Nigeria not make this same mistake again, we under-estimated Boko Haram threat and we got more humiliation as our reward of negligence in one year than we ever got in one hundred years of Nigeria’s existence, 2014 is our nation’s biggest public humiliation.

    Don’t joke with South Africa, I will speak from hindsight view of war history. Anybody can become your enemy tomorrow even if he is your friend today, that is the human world of global politics for you.

    Russia was Germany’s biggest ally against Britain in World War I, but same Russia was Germany’s biggest enemy and killer in World War II. Russia and Ukraine were blood oath brothers for the past 100 years, but Russia and Ukraine are enemies today. Nobody knows whom his next enemy will be. I need someone to give me a proof with 100% prophetic assurance that Nigeria and South Africa will never have a military confrontation, maybe not a war, but a face off and one of both sides will lose face because might is always right. South Africa has 5 million whites and Obama visited them while he snubbed Nigeria. Guess whom the west will support, surely Zuma not Jonathan.

    Nigeria has learnt a land war lesson from Boko Haram, don’t wait to learn a sea war lesson from South Africa, the ocean of oil and gas mining and shipping is Nigeria’s life-line for survival, without it, we will almost die of hunger.

    It is easier to order emergency T-72 tanks from Ukraine, than to order emergency guided missile frigate or the Song Class submarine from china, when you have never used a submarine before.

    South African navy submarines train in war very recent games with NATO/USA warships done twice already and they beat the American and European navies in those two encounters. Nigerian navy will be a toy for South Africa as at today, they have the power to bring us to our knees and we will even dash them the $9.3 million and possibly add extra more to it as ‘pacification’.

    Do not make a mistake to think South Africa is weak, they are the most advanced country in Africa and manufacture missiles they sell to Europe. South Africa is NOT broke, it has $40 billion cash reserves and it is one of the richest countries on earth by mineral wealth.

    What happens with their military is that they have too much modern equipment they do not need to use for now, and have a lot in storage to avoid wasting money driving them around. The submarine they put in dry dock for 7 years is coming back to full operation this month September 2014 as news was published. They had no hurry to repair it, they have 3 of the world’s most modern and ‘undetectable’ submarines, so one in dock is not big deal as they don’t even need to use it at that time. They waited 7 years and repaired it by themselves with South African engineers using very very little help from German manufacturer. If it was Nigeria we would have tug boated it to Germany. We don’t even have a submarine since 100 years of Nigeria, South African navy submarines fought against mighty German navy in World War II.

    Annoy South Africa in a military face off today, and you will see the most modern African military force looking you straight in the eye and let us see who will blink first !

    South Africa is sending guided missile stealth frigates and submarines into Nigeria’s Gulf of Guinea front-yard and economic life-line zone next year, that is a fact we have to live with if we have any national pride and foresight left after this Boko Haram mess that we failed to deal with in infancy and prepare for before it became an octopus that killed 13,000 Nigerians according to President Jonathan’s figures in his speech at the UN meeting this week.

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      Gentlemen of extra ordinary patriotic vigour,
      What happened to buying made in Nigeria armoured cars, What happened to the 5 x Chinook helicopters bought in the early 80s, for which NAF sent engineers to the US to train, ( The NAF C130s are the Civil version, the SepeCat Jaguars came without proper armament delivery systems, I personally know that an electronic professor offered to design a made at home system which he eventually took to India, there was also a retired RAF pilot/ Nigerian and name withheld, who was involved in the designs and offered his expertise – author of a must read fighter pilot book and military manuals in UK circles was also rejected, who later took employment in the gulf states) the fact is that the US/UK and their lap dogs would not sell any lethal military weapons to Nigeria, there is a grand new order rolling into place as mentioned by the Russian Ambassador, An organized Nigeria is a threat to total domination of a peaceful or warring African continent, more so Nigeria is seeking a security council seat ( which means you are a world power of some sort, even without Nuks). Any equipment or component belonging to these countries are stripped from the platforms. the full capability of the empty shells are full know ( So never a threat to them especially the 40 yr old naval platforms), training provided to Nigerian students is just basic Sun Tzu, be close to your perceived enemy and bring them closer, trainee pilot dossiers on capability are electronically kept and updated. Gone are the days of the aggressor squadrons of Yola.
      Nigeria has to start breaking out like Brazil or S.Africa, at least buy your own made in Nigeria armoured cars and establish a dedicated line of manufacturing ( which could produce a geo terrain designed tank and a strong line of maintenance. Primary issue in sustenance of a viable fighting force is maintenance, adapting and self production. A race that depend on others for everything is eventually going to be extinct. let’s take a cue from home grown Keshi and the green eagles, the team that has been the highest we have every been in a world cup series.
      Reply

    • jimmy says:

      OGA AUGUSTINE
      It is not that i do not want to respond to your Email, however insightful they may be @ the beginning of this thread that i instigated OGA BEEGS to create I promised to make sure the thread does not derail. In the future we will discuss this issue but for now let us agree to disagree and shelve it till we get a thread involving S’ Africa and Nigeria.

    • Are James says:

      @Augustine
      There would never be a land war between Nigeria and South Africa. A naval war is a possibility but very remote. A proxy war in a central, south african or west african country is admittedly a less remote possibility. Now, I have seen threads on nairaland where you over a course of about 2000 webpages indulged in this un rewarding speculation and arguments with a south African national over national military prowess. Let me just say that we as Africans are getting more highly evolved than all the **ck measuring that you guys were doing. S. Africa is far more advanced in aerospace and defence technology than Nigeria. Nigeria as far more innate humans capabilities to win any war against S. Africa many times over but all these facts are not relevant because it just will never happen in our lifetimes.

  19. Augustine says:

    We have not seen any proof of Navy acquisitions beyond OPV.

    If there is no plan for that, better we urgently refit NNS Aradu, add modern anti-torpedo decoys, and two CIWS anti-missile guns, plus one working anti-submarine helicopter. Then test fire all her old guns and missiles, replace whatever is necessary, maximum we spend $80 million for all that including the two brand new engines. We have Aradu for another 15 years full and perfect service.

    Then meanwhile we can plan for submarine and guided missile stealth frigate purchase according to what Oga Beegeagle has been listing on this blog for the past 6 months as Nigerian Navy needs.

    An unfriendly black African military power is sending missile frigates and submarines into our region of economic strength soon.

  20. Tobey says:

    The Navy has been doing fine so far in terms of acquisitions from its yearly budget..this largeese should be for the Army and the NAF…the NN should stick to its yearly budget.

    • jimmy says:

      oga rugge7
      Once again for your precise analysis.
      I am putting the finishing touches to my next article it is titled N.B.A. and it is not about the National BasketBall Association.
      i hope you do not mind if I use some of your links.

      • rugged7 says:

        It’s not my analysis actually- Hence the link.
        It’s open source from Freedom of Information U.S congress…
        So u should be free to use…

  21. Franky says:

    I think we need not worry much about SANDF, we all know we had/have NN ratings training in pakistan under sub warfare, i think DHQ had SANDF in mind. Dont be flabbergasted when you see an NN sub pop out of the waters when push comes to shove.(Who knows, Nigeria might have traditionally secretly acquired a sub or two)

  22. G8T Nigeria says:

    Several South Africans with high knowledge on military hardware were boasting on Nairaland some months back that they have started hyping SA mil capabilities even to our famous beeeagle blog. I laughed over it but now suprised how every comments now attracts a reasoning, analysis with SA. Algeria, Morocco, Egpyt and in some cases Tanzania are indeed a mighty force in Africa. SA will loose in milllllions if they try any nonsence. If u even go close to them then u understand they have assets but weaker, non challant air and naval personnel. Stop throwing so much on the govt who have just started doing what many others ought to have done in the past. The hype on SA is growing more than a threat. I know so much about SA to tell you they will LOOSE in all fronts. It’s a pity we have lost faith in Nigeria. We have allowed ourselves to become judges who only see the errors and never the gains. SA will not, cannot, would not succeed in a confrontation with Nigeria.

    • Augustine says:

      Oga G8T Nigeria, when men’s ego is involved, thought about economic gains can be thrown away, thanks to the Devil. Hitler did not care how much he would lose, same as Saddam. South Africa does NOT need Nigeria to survive sir.

  23. Prinx Arthur says:

    For guys talking of submarines we should first re arm and refit NNS Aradu add 2 or 3 anti submarine helicopter (Harbin) negotiate song class submarine through promised Chinese credit of $.500 million to Nigeria+ more Chinese MRAPS ,return to US for 4th gen night vision Goggles for our soldier.

  24. buchi says:

    my sincere estimates fingers only the NA and NAF in new acquisitions…but i think NN will get a heavy one(possibly the German retired frigate)
    everyone seems to have forgotten that we got a Turkish and Chinese unknown ships/opvs any news one that?..my ogas tomorrow is my birthday

  25. jimmy says:

    This is what I mean when a govt is being serious and it is looking after it’s own interest.
    http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/terrorism-400-nigerian-security-personnel-leave-russia/
    GENTS you may recall last month at what i believe was the 62 nd regular POP of the Nigerian Defence Academy GEJ pledged to form a special brigade, well this appears to be it.
    However what is unusual about this is the brigade might be composed of the three services ARMY / NAVY/ AIR FORCE.

  26. Blackrev says:

    Terrorism: 400 Nigerian security
    personnel leave for Russia

    http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/terrorism-400-nigerian-security-personnel-leave-russia/

    this is what we should have done a long time ago. the russian special forces got my love since their last operation in Crimea including some clips of their operations in the northern caucasus.

    The police SOF should be modeled after either ALFA or the turkish police SOF. these police unites integrate well with the army SOF in COIN operations in these countries and they seem to be doing fine.

    i hope more will be sent as well.

  27. Obix says:

    Ukrainian politicians complaining against the sale of T-72 tanks to Nigeria. And o yeah, Nigeria is also in the hunt for the new Ukrainian BTR-4E APC. Confirmed!

    • Henry says:

      Oga Obix, thanks for the snippets. However, I don’t understand the rationale behind buying military equipment from the Ukraine at this time. Ukrainian army is under-funded and under-equipped, I’m also with the ukrainian people and politicians on their frustration on exporting when they’re obviously in need of these equipments.

      I also doubt the Ukrainian ability to deliver on all these orders. Yet again, these events has nailed home the need for us to develop our defence industry.

      Just imagine a world in war, where then would we turn to in the face of an imminent and raging insurgency

      • asorockweb says:

        Oga Henry, Ukraine has not ordered for these equipment (the tanks and the APCs).
        If they actually ordered for these vehicles themselves, then their factories would manufacture and deliver.

        But the Ukrainian politicians have no money to buy the vehicles. Yet, the fact that your army is in need and you are exporting to a 3rd country will always create political heat.

      • Are James says:

        We are not taking free stuff. We are buying to keep an Ukrainian company afloat. They are also selling to Iraq so they must have some capacity to meet orders.

      • Henry says:

        Oga Asorock, I know ukraine has no money and the BTR-3U, other than these my knowledge of the Ukrainian defence industry is quite limited.

        So my concerns are from a very limited knowledge of the Ukraine.

      • Augustine says:

        Oga Henry, no shaking. Ukraine has more than enough weapons to defeat the rebels today, but the fear of Russia is making them fight like Sallah ram that keeps running backwards from superior horns, claiming it moves backwards to gather momentum forward.

    • asorockweb says:

      That’s a capable machine.

      Here’s an interesting link, it looks like Ukraine might end up buying the DOZOR APC instead though – it’s cheaper!
      http://snafu-solomon.blogspot.ca/2014/06/ukraine-switches-to-dozor-apcs-dropping.html

    • jimmy says:

      oga obix
      My b.p. was up but as usual it is all in the money.
      http://www.punchng.com/news/eu-hopeful-of-gas-deal-between-ukraine-and-russia/

      • Obix says:

        Very simple- Russia is blackmailing Ukraine with gas. The price for Ukraine is over %50 higher that that for the EU.That’s why some EU countries are reverse pumping Russian gas to Ukraine (In fact, usually the gas transits Ukrainian to the EU… and now back)

      • Are James says:

        Someone should stick an LNG regasification terminal in Greece, Italy or Macedonia then build a pipeline so that Nigeria can supply them cheaper stuff from our NLNG. I am sure some half used pipeline exists within western Europe they tie into Ukraine so the capital cost is reduced. EU needs to think out of the box for the energy needs of eastern Europe and it is not an economic issue it is political.

      • CHYDE says:

        Oga Arejames nice idea but hope you read what the Russians said abt Nigeria, one must be careful, they seem willing to help, so we should make decisions based on our interest o

      • igbi says:

        Oga Chyde, many Nigerians still don’t understand that the west is not their father and that they owe no loyalty to the west which enslaved their cousins and humiliated their kings. What I mean is that there is nothing binding us to the west, so only our national interests should be considered. Some people will take more time than others to process this.

  28. Blackrev says:

    Terrorism: 400 Nigerian security
    personnel leave for Russia

    http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/terrorism-400-nigerian-security-personnel-leave-russia/

    this is what we should have done a long time ago. the russian special forces got my love since their last operation in Crimea including some clips of their operations in the northern caucasus.

    The police SOF should be modeled after either ALFA or the turkish police SOF. these police unites integrate well with the army SOF in COIN operations in these countries and they seem to be doing fine.

    i hope more will be

  29. Blackrev says:

    sorry, the double posts were uninteded

  30. smartboy2000 says:

    My Great Lords CyberGenerals, I have being following all the various threads over the last 2 weeks and I’m more than convinced that we Nigerians have what it takes to solve our problems. In any kind of Modern Warfare, ISTAR Assets are the first tools for terrain analysis followed by information de-cyphering by Military Intelligence. The US/UK/Israelis have provided us with enough information for us to now take full control of our theatre. When it comes to procurement of military assets, we are a Federation which means we can buy our assets from anybody who is willing to sell us products to finish the our military mission. So we shouldn’t be worried whether we buy our products from the east or west, what really matters is that we have the technology to locally maintain whatever product that has being procured, and we have the technological knowledge exchange to be able to produce some of these assets locally. God Bless The Federal Republic of Nigeria.

  31. Augustine says:

    Video of Nigeria’s first units of upgraded T-72 tanks in Ukraine, notice the added ERA armour like the Indian army tanks….

    • asorockweb says:

      obix, abeg, what are they talking about?
      Are the tanks shown in the courtyard the ones that have been waiting for delivery for 18months?

      • Obix says:

        @Oga asorockweb. Yes, these tanks have been awaiting delivery for 18 months. There are rumours that Nigeria refused these particular specification and production stopped. The director also showed turrets on the shelves that were for the Nigerian order. He said “They were meant for the Nigeria order” (meant- past tense).

    • Are James says:

      This factory has hundreds of sq metres of unused capacity and young ‘skilled-looking’ workers who need to remain in employment. I imagine tens of these kind of settings in Ukraine. So who is still doubting that Belarus and Ukraine can meet the orders?. The entire western Europe was military hardware production area for the soviets. That and their peculiar defence manufacturing knowhow is currently driving a lot of their economies.

  32. Augustine says:

    Oga Ugobassey, please don’t ask hungry and unemployed Nigerians or struggling businesses that have no electricity to operate to start paying tax of 5% for war funds. Voluntary donations are welcome, not tax on the poor people please. Visit Ajegunle and see suffer-head plenty. Makoko and Okokomaiko are suffering zones, how to you tax them in poverty?

    Nigeria has about $35 billion cash reserve, we can ask national assembly to pass a national emergency revenue use amendment bill to withdraw $5 billion out of it and buy new modern equipment/weapons for Nigerian armed forces.

    • Are James says:

      A $5billion depletion of external reserves will depreciate the Naira appreciably. We are entering N175 to the dollar territory if we withdraw that much. However a tax if carefully done won’t even be felt much. I agree however that rich people should pay more.

  33. Augustine says:

    Typhoon MRAP why? Can’t we buy more CS/VP3 Big Foot MRAP we already have? I fear the way me mix small quantities of many different equipment/weapons together when Nigeria is not a technology giant….maintenance issues. Why don’t we standardize? Now we have mixed T-55+T-72+T-84+Vickers….four different tank types.

    Why not just T-72+T-84 and we sell off the other baggages?

    • Are James says:

      You already know the answer even before you asked the question. When you have urgent requirements for large numbers of MRAPs you cannot wait to fill all requirements quickly enough with just one type. Sometimes A,B,C and D come faster then 4 x A.
      There is really not much known about MRAPs to standardize so to avoid standardizing on one brand let us use all for sometime, later we can procure only upgrades of the best brand.

    • asorockweb says:

      We should not be selling any hardware.

      Army Reserve has nothing.

      The old tanks and IFVs/APCs should be refitted and used to stand up Army Reserve.

      We need reserves.

  34. Dear Fellow Generals,

    Its Simple Ukraine needs cash to produce Weapons to defend itself from Russia, we have the cash and need Mordern Arms to defend Nigeria……deal is done, with Cash Ukraine produces tanks, APCs n co for its Army n saves them also removing pressure from EU/Russia Tug of War for Gas.

    Ukraine needs to talk to politicians n settle it within themself by providing draft of future job opportunities per location n unit making sure Pro Russian Rebels dnt increase Ranks etc., As for Russia we can order More Helos with more cash simply put, we dip from both sides n get hardware n training like we are doing n give money to both sides, we just need to play the tune of both sides and make it clear that both sides shouldnt pit us against each other.

    SNIPPETS OF NIGERIA MILITARY ACQUISITION (CONFIRMED AND RUMOURED)

    Russia: 4 Batches of new SF Brigade being trained since February, Russia willing to upgrade the Army, BM 27 Uragan, BM 30 Smerch MLRS, New MI 35M Helicopters, AK 74 stocks,New orders for MI35M and MI 171Sh Terminators (possibly the 40 attack helos)

    With mounting Pressure USA will want to supply us Military Arms to counter Russia purchase with Tech transfer ( Seeing as they are training our Rangers confirmed by everyone) or keep quiet n play Janus (2 faced politics) while China has brought us Bigfoot MRAPs, Dragunov Sniper Rifles, Newer RPGs, AGLs, New OPVs, Possible Submarine Contract, Possible ASW Helicopters and SF Training.

    UK has sent a Warship for Joint Exercise and it wasnt Fire Drill

    Belarus supplying us 12 MI35M, talks of Training of 4g Fighter pilots

    Ukraine T84 tanks ,T72 tanks (upgraded) meanwhile Tanks dey land Lagos ooo( we dont know what they are or from where!!!! pls someone shuld find out the mystery of these new tanks sighted last month), BTR 3s etc.

    Sightings and Test Evaluation of 4G Jets round Nigeria which we hear Snippets are JF 17 thunder Block 1 or 2, SU 27/30, Kfir Block 60, Tornadoes…….Super Tucano Confirmed Sighted in TAC, Markudi.

    Regular Info of Heavy Firepower being crated and supplied t TAC

    AFIT launching FARAWA 2( New Light Trainer Jet ), Igirigi Mk 2 dat has seen battle in Borno ( Budget in 2014 is to produce more), Seaward Defence Boat 2 nearing completion, Typhoon MRAP, New UAV Made in Nigeria undergoing Sterner upgrade, Anti Bomb Robots

    NIMASA Launching Satellite Surveillance Centre and may hv gotten more ATR 42-500 Surveyors

    US Delivery of Vehicles including more Otokar Cobra, Transport Vehicles, Comm Gear etc.

    China/Turkey dashed Warships to us plus Spotted F91,F92 Sailing to Nigeria. NNS Okpabana from USA has crews undergoing training.

    THE FLURRY OF ACTIVITIES AND STATEMENTS SHOW THAT NIGERIA WANTS TO MORDERNIZE AND WILL DO SO AT ALL COST….things arent so secretive like before we are clearly seeing a Country willing to Mordernize ,issue is to see it through Completely so let us realistically add info Minus the ones signed for already by budget and since 2012 what we should get with the 1 billion dollars, if it has already been Spent evaluate what was bought and do cost estimates and ADVICE What to include in 2015 Budget that will soon be released to Budget Office, the ADVICE must be that Military Expenditure must have 60% Hardware, Training and 40% Welfare….to Support .this we will have all 36 states contribute to Military hardware at a Voluntary contribution model this is sourced from Private Companies and Individuals and Internationals.

    • igbi says:

      We can’t actually be helping ukraine against our number one ally at this moment (Russia). And francly I wish Russia luck in its affairs in Ukraine, because once Ukraine becomes completely western, guess what, they won’t sell us weapons anymore.

    • Are James says:

      Very good summary @ekundayotemitope61.😃

    • asorockweb says:

      Things of note:

      The “Tornadoes” that were sighted or mentioned were probably related to the surveillance air assets the Brits deployed to Chad.

      The “US supplied” Otokar Cobras’, were just NA vehicles that happen to be in the same photo as the US supplied equipment (mostly toyota land cruisers, a few trucks, and some spare-parts)

  35. Henry says:

    The MOU with belarus can be best seen with the current very flexible loan agreement for the delivery of 12 Helicopters to Nigeria, with payment over a 7 year period, and the BVST MIL maintenance facility in Nigeria.

    Oga Obix, for the BTR-4E IFV’s, do you have any idea on the actual numbers to be Procured?

  36. rugged7 says:

    Nigeria: Unga – Nigeria, Russia in New Deal Over Hardware Assistance
    http://allafrica.com/stories/201409260547.html

  37. rka says:

    “The source said that the military authorities became worried when the US authorities, who did not oppose the nation’s request for unspecified number of attack helicopters, kept mounting obstacles on the part of the military to acquire them six months after.

    “Investigation revealed that a ship load of arms and ammunition meant to prosecute the ongoing fight was being delayed in a port Singapore.”
    http://www.today.ng/news/boko-haram-nigeria-us-relations-may-strain-over-arms-purchase/

  38. Deltaman says:

    At MMA2 – 2 C130s parked, one just landed. Oga Beeg, How many do we have in service?

    • jimmy says:

      We have five C-130S that are in service right now I cannot remember all their designated number but here are some NAF#913, 917, 918, 923, i cannot remember the last one.

  39. Augustine says:

    Nigeria should NOT complain o !

    Why are we just waking up? All these struggle to buy arms now and getting blocked in South Africa, blocked in Washington, blocked in Singapore, blocked in Ukraine…..it’s all because Nigeria does not listen, when this Beegeagle blog was screaming years ago about modernizing and rebuilding Nigerian military, our government refused to listen until now after Boko Haram has killed 13,000 innocent Nigerians, then we rush for weapons and get frustrated by blockages.

    Let me not sound like a stammerer, but I am one, so I repeat this maxim…

    Best time to prepare for war time is peace time.

    (Extra caution for those who say Nigerian navy does not need submarines of missile frigates now, when you need it desperately, this is how you will get blocked like ice block.)

  40. egbeigwe says:

    The daily post has been reporting about another battle in Konduga. Now the leadership Newspapers has posted this
    http://leadership.ng/news/385348/konduga-soldiers-boko-haram-terrorists-killed-renewed-attacks
    According to the leadership the battle appear to have been going on for two days bit most news channels seem to be quiet on this.
    It appears like our troops seem to have carried the day again.

  41. jimmy says:

    oga augustine
    I beg make we face RUSSIA squarely for the cobras it is enough We need the btrs now.

  42. Buchi says:

    Tnk u oga augustine..and my other cyber generals….the news of the about to be botched T-72 tank deal did not do my day any gud…however we had better start ramping up the acquitions now…silent sanctions and frustrations are creeping up..all in a bid to slow our efforts down..i pray that we purchase the right mix of weapons with full capabilities.no limitations.

    Ifv btr-4E in large nos

    Our aeromach jets havent yet arrived y?
    Tucano where them dey?

    All the list of weapons we need.that we have screaming for..we need not just to arm for the present but this should serve as a template and lesson for us.never use ur neighbours strenght to guage urs.our threats are gradually revealing themselves…
    It id time also to get our recruitment policy right the NA nd other arms have seen the destructive effects of backdoor personel.give aspiring patrotic nigerians the equal unBashed oppurtunity to serve this country.the attitude of my junior office shld not know more than me shld stop hence forth.rather than stiffle harness their ideas.innovation and improvization is the key..

    Ehm oga I did a little research on akarsh ADS and I think it will serve our purpose of medium to low air defence..the absence of SAM sites is still a big minus to us..we need to rectify it fast…if we intend to ask the yanks to quit flying drones over our airspace(which we shld do now)and get serious with it..a single sub will go a long way to instill a level of fear on intruders attempting to penetrate our EEZ..we need to give our boys training in pak the real deal..

    For the airforce,my favorite as usual..they shld be no slacking.the platforms may be slow in arriving and we pray for more.in as much as we continue our ATG offence we shuld start adequate training for ATA offence cos the way things are going.we will soon be engaged in dog fighrs soon.as we await new air frames I strongly advocate as usual that we use what we have to the fullest..our jaguars are still packed something can be done abt them.18 units no be small joke nos HAL of india is still very much active.i dnt advice this but if we can upgrade a couple of air frame worthy mig-21 to its recent gekas version via ther greeks..it wouldnt be bad but still I prefare nw frames

    Nigeria u are giant act like one bare ur fangs..nigerians we are our worst enemies and our best friends if we destroy nigeria let us be prepared to face what the somalians are facing today.no matter how rich u are in ur new country of abode u will always be insultex hence.let our ideals be nationalistic.

    this is my special birthday admonition..thnk u beegs

  43. Are James says:

    Some young, nosey parker Nairalander posted this port landing of some APCs.
    http://www.nairaland.com/1923238/picture-military-machines-arriving-today

  44. Are James says:

    Happy birthday @Buchi.
    May you grow in stature and affect your generation and your country positively IJN. Amen.

    • asorockweb says:

      These either our old MT-LBs or some other nations MT-LB, given or sold to us.

    • jimmy says:

      Actually these are the Btr that they have been shipping from the Sudan.We talked about this about a month. The shipment that should be of major concern is when the Antonovs and the Ilyushin-76 jets start to touch down. Not to put a dampner on things but .Nigeria has a critical decision to make and based on what is being reported and what went down@ the SIDELINES of the meeting, Nigeria may have to bite the bullet and buy their Tanks fom Russia .Hold the Emails it just might come down to Reliability.More on this later. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

      • Are James says:

        Why would APCs from Darfur come in by ship?. That’s some weird circumnavigation of Africa.
        Maybe it was donated stuff or careful careful camouflaging to prevent sanctions or donated stuff from friendly countries from their ex UN peace keeping stocks like you said.

  45. Oje says:

    Another reason why Nigeria should start preparing for a post Boko Haram offensive on Cameroonian targets and interest. Not satisfied will the deliberate confusion and uncertainty orchestrated by Yaounde to take the shine out of the monumental achievement by the Nigerian armed forces in killing that She Cow they are again on another media offensive, claiming to capture a Boko Haram Commander alive. Since when did 16 year old boys commandeer a 30,000 strong extremist group?

    http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/26/cameroonian-military-capture-boko-haram’s-top-commander-abakar-ali

  46. Oje says:

    Another reason why Nigeria should start preparing for a post Boko Haram offensive on Cameroonian targets and interest. Not satisfied will the deliberate confusion and uncertainty orchestrated by Yaounde to take the shine out of the monumental achievement by the Nigerian armed forces in killing that She Cow they are again on another media offensive, claiming to capture a Boko Haram Commander alive. Since when did 16 year old boys commandeer a 30,000 strong extremist group?

    http://saharareporters.com/2014/09/26/cameroonian-military-capture-boko-haram’s-top-commander-abakar-ali

  47. beegeagle says:

    Oga Are, those are almost certainly pre-owned Nigerian Army MT-LBs returning from either Liberia or Sudan. To be sure, we have had some of those in Liberia since the successful ECOMIL intervention of August 2003.

    Post-2007 and after the indifferent performance by some non-tropicalised wheeled APCs in the desert heat of Darfur, MT-LB were moved in even greater numbers, alongside upgraded BTR-70s, into that theatre.

    India field MT-LBs and BTRs for PKOs but these are almost certainly not donated equipment from anywhere. I suspect that they are about to be painted in desert camo and moved into the Northeast…as was the case with the earlier photos of MT-LBs seen in Lagos traffic and then seen repainted around Mubi as they were being driven into the AOR on tank transporters.

    And why do the most ignorant Nigerians have a limitless capacity to self-deprecate? One would have thought that after 4-6 weeks at ports and on the high seas, the effects of salinity on a white-coloured APC would be evident to any literate Nigerian? What was that guy on NL railing about?

    OK…back to our typically clueless journalists. This one wanted to make headlines about a scam methinks. First, it was Belarus do not make helicopters. True. But twelve Mi-24V/Mi-35P are coming from there…refurbished and upgraded for night-time operations in line with battlefield exigencies and the financial outlays which suffice. What is wrong with that? The brand-new Mi-35M and Mi-171Sh Terminator attack/assault helicopters are coming from the MAKERS in Russia.

    And who said a used Mi-35 (interchangeably known as the Mi-24V but not to be confused with the 30mm cannon-armed Mi-35P) costs 35-40 million USD? Sans upgrades, that should be an affordable 3.5-4 million USD. This is how they heat up the polity with useless talking points just to gain political mileage.

    Not even a brand-new, state-of-the-art Mi-35M would cost US$20 million.

    READ

    http://leadership.ng/news/385339/1bn-arms-loan-belarus-helicopter-manufacturing-country

  48. ugobassey says:

    My Ogas, in the meantime while we shop from other nation to boost our defense capabilities, I would like to urge the FG to have DICON, INNOSON, PROFORCE, indigenous electrical and engineering firms partner up. Let DHQ select some Army, Navy and Air force platforms and have these partnership group reverse engineer those platforms so that we can fast track local production. The funding could either come from cooperate taxes and/or sovereign wealth fund. Yes they initially may not be as good or reliable as the imported ones but once we achieve such a feat, innovation and adaptation comes easier.

  49. ugobassey says:

    Sorry my post was moved up but my Ogas, in the meantime while we shop from other nation to boost our defense capabilities, I would like to urge the FG to have DICON, INNOSON, PROFORCE, indigenous electrical and engineering firms partner up. Let DHQ select some Army, Navy and Air force platforms and have these partnership group reverse engineer those platforms so that we can fast track local production. The funding could either come from cooperate taxes and/or sovereign wealth fund. Yes they initially may not be as good or reliable as the imported ones but once we achieve such a feat, innovation and adaptation comes easier.

  50. Oje says:

    Chai ! Oga Ogor-stine, you have started lol. Ukraine was never free from Russia’s sphere of influence, which should it? 20 years ago they were one country. After Georgia the Ukranians knew they were next. It baffles me how Putin scaled down his rhetoric in the face of NATO infantrymen training in the East of the country. One time he was on air telling the West to remember Russia is a nuclear power, the next week he is distancing himself and proposing “talks”……

    • Obix says:

      Oga Oje, there’s more to the crisis than people hear in the news. Yes, Putin will not compromise Russia’s interests in Ukraine but he needs these talks and ceasefire just like the Ukrainians because there’s a ‘time bomb’ ticking under him . I’ll derail this thread and blog if i start writing on that🙂 . It’s time for a comprehensive peace plan in the crisis.

      • Are James says:

        It will greatly weaken Russia to persist in the war against Ukraine. It is very unwise. The two peoples are dangerously close. Too many secrets shared, too many possible inroads into the Eastern European socio political complex by the west. Even if Russia invades and conquers the whole of Ukraine which in possible in 6days. What next?. How do they digest it?. How do they cope with the militias?. The CIA and Western European intelligence agencies will merely rub their hands together in relish as plans begin to take down the Russian empire finally.
        An internal virus is more dangerous to a giant than a competing giant by a factor of 1000. Always wisdom trumps aggression, belligerence and displays of power.

      • jimmy says:

        Some of the views here are very interesting by looking @ the dynamics of the East versus Western politics from the Nigerian perspective.I expect the war to be over except for meaningless skirmishes on the Eastern border to persists,.The booty for Russia has always been Crimea with full unmitigated access and control to the black sea.For Ukraine it will be the eventual price several years from now of joining the E.U. as a second class member.They will also learn like Georgia did the U.S. has no intention of allowing Ukraine to become a part of Nato.Meaningless military gestures are fine but going to war against a country that has nuclear weapons over a country that is deeply enmeshed in debt are too different things entirely. This thing will end not because one side is stronger than the other that is quite evident .It will end because money talks and bullshit walks.Ukraine will settle it’s $1.5B debt to Russia it will then need to turn around and sell thos tanks gathering dust .Those tanks the longer they sit do not make any money for them. The E.U. will give Ukraine loans putting them further in debt a fact not lost on their billionaire biz President.Russia on the other recognizes the poorer Ukraine is the more likely they are to renege on paying.France stands to be sued and be liable for breach of contract if they do not give Russia their $1B ship.Winter is coming and no they do not want to turn the tap off in Ukraine,they want it on full blast so they can make solid cold cash.This is what will end the war. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network

  51. Oje says:

    Ogor-stine, the downsizing of our military was borne with political reason and not ineptitude..The scale and size of our military was an overkill relative to our neighbors. But now a sleeping giant has been awakened. The world is watching “sturned” how virtually overnight the Nigerian military has been able to hit the terrorist hard to the point they are either running to Cameroon or surrendering their weapons with many seeking asylum in Cameroon. $6.5 billion, this is easily the biggest defence budget in subSahara Africa. Even as at now our military capability far out matches anything our neighbors can muster. Professionalism will be back, once again an invaluable battlefield experience will be unmatched. Not many of you know that the Nigerian airforce power projection asset is still unmatched. SA has two Hercules C 130, we have 6. We have ELLINT Asset other countries including SA can only dream off. Do you know the kind of advantage having 5 satellites in orbit rigged and integrated to our armed forces will give us? This guerilla warfare business is crap. Lucky for us Boko Haram mistook our previous setbacks as weakness and decided to engage the Nigerian armed forces in a conventional battle field, taking up territories they must have to defend. …too late, they goofed, now they know what real war is like. They are good at hide and seek.

  52. Augustine says:

    As Nigeria shares this $1 Billion loan like sliced bread for our three armed forces long neglected for 30 years, I don’t think the navy will get much because they have no direct involvement in Boko Haram war. I wish for equal sharing formula, but I don’t think FG and MoD will agree.

    My guess is army takes lion’s share $500m, air force $300m, navy $200m

    Well, if it is only $200m gets to the navy, they will now be the least powerful in conventional war firepower among our three armed forces, despite the fact that they have been the most innovative, creative, and technology driven.

    I think the navy should just go buy one second hand Chinese Song class Submarine for $180m and use the balance to provide harbour submarine facilities. At least they will not look like an ordinary coast guard anymore and can be a deterrent to any country planning to harass Nigeria’s oil and gas business in our rich oceans where our national cake comes from.

    Then Nigerian government/Navy should please work on Chinese government/Navy to give us one of their second hand 1990s model Chinese decommissioned Type 053H3 Guided Missile Frigates fully armed as an ‘appreciation’ gift and deal sweetener for the second hand Song Class submarine we buy from them.

    Just thinking that the navy should be sadly left behind and short changed, they are the ones that guard Nigeria’s oil and gas business that feeds the whole nation from Lagos to Abuja to Maiduguri.

  53. buchi says:

    it has been revealed that we formally asked for help from the Russians at the un summit .hope dis is a sign of gud things to come

  54. Oje says:

    I hope we remember our defence budget is not $10 billion? How do we even attempt to make all these acquisitions with a $ 2 billion capital expenditure?

  55. Oje says:

    Crazy Ivan. We should aquire the Akula subs then, We can hold the entire coast of Africa hostage with the capital of each African country written in each of its missiles. Yarounde will be written in 6 missiles.

    • igbi says:

      Francly the statements you keep making are disturbing. First you suggest we attack cameroon (our ally against boko haram), then you suggest we hold Africa hostage.
      Please bloggers either you hate my guts or not, could you react to these statements ?
      “Crazy Ivan” indeed !

    • igbi says:

      what does “Crazy Ivan” mean ?

  56. jimmy says:

    http://odili.net/news/source/2014/sep/28/307.html
    The fallout between the UNGA agreement between the Foreign Minister of Russia and the Foreign Minister of Nigeria is forming a nucleus of what is appearing to be a solid , serious agreement some of this is cut and paste news but what caught my eye is the fact that the number of personnel has risen from what was supposed to be 400 + to what is now 1200+ it must be very apparent that whatever training the first batch received………. ( classified) it was deemed and an IMMEDIATE decision was made to screen,/ vet and increase the personnel
    There is most likely going to be some procurement and training from ISRAEL and some European country, this much is becoming apparent.

  57. Oje says:

    Unbelievable

  58. Deway says:

    Lets cool down on the submarine issue. The navy’s long term strategic plan provides coverage for submarine procurement. I’m sure its in the works as we speak. it requires long term planning, training and logistics. We don’t even have a naval base that can house a sub. The threat of a fellow African country coming to our backside with a sub is real. So I understand this as well, but for now I’ll rather be thinking in the direction of submarine hunters – ASW helicopters, Frigates or OPVs with anti-sub detection equipment and torpedoes, reconfiguring 2 of those executive Beechcraft King aircrafts for anti-piracy and sub surveillance.

    • superboi79 says:

      Yes ASW choppers are what we really need and one of the best platforms out there right now is the 3 engined AW 101. Wish the presidency can get like 5 more for the Navy, considering the fact they have good(??with the way they handled the 109s should I be using good?) Experience with Agustas Westlands.(A109&Lynxs)

  59. Deway says:

    (Appeared elsewhere above not sure why) Lets cool down on the submarine issue. The navy’s long term strategic plan provides coverage for submarine procurement. I’m sure its in the works as we speak. it requires long term planning, training and logistics. We don’t even have a naval base that can house a sub. The threat of a fellow African country coming to our backside with a sub is real. So I understand this as well, but for now I’ll rather be thinking in the direction of submarine hunters – ASW helicopters, Frigates or OPVs with anti-sub detection equipment and torpedoes, reconfiguring 2 of those executive Beechcraft King aircrafts for anti-piracy and sub surveillance.

  60. Oje says:

    Igbi, enough with your conspiracy theory postulating, South Africa has bigger things to worry about that sending submarines to assist pirates off our coast, dont you see how ridiculous that sounds? Like it or not Nigeria owes a lot of our economic ascendency to South Africa.

    • igbi says:

      I presented no conspiracy theory, perhaps you should learn the meaning of that expression. I presented possibilities, threats. The way you think is amazing, are you sayig that Nigeria should not prepare because you hate my guts and I said Nigeria should prepare ? Or do you have a genuin reason ? It was stated by the Nigerian navy and by President Jonathan and confirmed by some foreign intelligence ( I can’t remember which country) that these pirates work for well established companies abroad. The business of those companies have an influence on the economy of their respective countries.

  61. Oje says:

    There is a long history of French betrayal, including in the Nazi wars. And these were not only of foreigners but also of friends and family. I am definitely not going to stereotype a people or nation based on culture and language, and then, our neighbors, Cameroon and Chad, etc are not French but only partially French cultured; however it is becoming critical to analyze and review the attitudes and policies of Nigeria’s neighbors in view of the fight on terrorism. Cameroon threw out a blatant lie when we killed Abubakar Shekau II. I first received the picture of Shekau’s dead body a day after the war and two days before the Cameroonians claimed they killed him. When I got the picture, something struck me in it as being a “familiar” face. It was sent to me not as the body of Shekau but just as the body of a dead Boko Haram commander. Apparently the Cameroonians too received one of the pictures early and promptly identified it as Shekau II. And they decided to lie. They immediately sent out this same picture I had received from Nigerian sources and claimed they had killed Shekau II. The world bought the lie; more eager to believe Cameroon than Nigeria; thanks to a woeful President like Jonathan at the helm. By the time Nigeria first announced that we had killed Shekau at Konduga, Cameroon had already run with half the glory. Little did Cameroon know that we had video evidence of us interviewing him alive and several more pictures that had been taken from the first day. One wonders whether it is the paltry $7 million reward they were pursuing, or they just wanted to appear useful after years of failure. It is a shame, a big shame at that that derides our relationship with our Eastern neighbor. Cameroon has a lot of interest in Nigeria. Nigeria recently foolishly submitted itself to a Hague biased judgment tampered in favor of Cameroon by its Colonial master, France. Many do not know that the judgment placed not only the Bakassi peninsula but parts of oil rich Borno and Adamawa states, the states today plagued by Boko Haram, under the ownership of Cameroon. Cameroon and Chad are eagerly drilling of the same oil Nigeria owns from explorations from shared pools at the Bakassi and Lake Chad/ Chad basin. Cameroon, Chad and Niger have always tolerated Boko Haram training camps and the supply of ammunition to Boko Haram terrorists through their territories. Most Boko Haram commanders are French –speaking citizens of these nations. In fact, the truth about Boko Haram II terrorism is that it is foreign bred and a francophone invasion of Nigeria, permitted and allowed by our Presidency and corrupt and senseless entities that our President dines with, enriches and protects for his own political and tribal reasons. Today Cameroon has proven itself to be a treacherous neighbor that cannot be trusted. It is time Nigeria reestablishes respectful, comprehensive regional security cooperation with the States it shares boundaries with and ensures that it deals with its neighbors from a position of strength and with cautious presentiment. These are not however attributes Goodluck Jonathan has or can feign. Nigeria awaits a replacement leadership that will establish English-speaking Nigeria’s position among its francophone neighbors and respond sharply and deliberately to all forms of complex foreign threats, regional or Global.

    By Dr. Peregrino Brimah

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