BATTLEFIELD IMAGERY: NIGERIAN ARMY MT-LBs UPGUNNED

PROPS: HENRY
TECH SUPPORT: MCSHEGZ

About beegeagle

BEEG EAGLE -perspectives of an opinionated Nigerian male with a keen interest in Geopolitics, Defence and Strategic Studies
This entry was posted in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink.

84 Responses to BATTLEFIELD IMAGERY: NIGERIAN ARMY MT-LBs UPGUNNED

  1. asorockweb says:

    12.7mm HMG.

    Can’t quite place it. Looks lake the NSV or the Kord.

    • asorockweb says:

      *like

    • Are James says:

      Commendable. A long range HMG is just a quick response weapon anyway, at sound of the first volley of shots, every trained man inside that vehicle is out in 30seconds anyway with RPG launchers (the rockets wont be kept inside) and other HMGs to engage the enemy and clear the way.

  2. Augustine says:

    I have always loved the MT-LB armoured personnel carrier for some reasons. It’s not very fast at 60 km/h road max, but :

    1. Cheap, $100,000 in year 2003 for unarmed or lightly armed units. $150,000 in year 2012 for Iraqi variant with twin 23 mm ZSU-23-2 cannon, but to fully modernized with good targeting sights for day night combat, some units may go up to $200,000 per unit.

    2. Armoured to resist light arms/rifles/etc and shrapnel, basic protection like Otokar Cobra.

    3. Fully amphibious swimmer. Tracked for mobility, MT-LB will do well crossing lake Chad, water, mud, sand and terrain where a Cobra will get stuck.

    4. Work horse, hard labourer, many kinds of variants and many different types of armament including 12.7 mm, 14.5 mm, 23 mm, 30 mm, 40 mm cannon, AGL, ATGM, SAM, 120 mm mortar, cargo/resupply, etc.

    5. Surplus Russian stocks available in reserve, Russian army has about 5,000 units of MT-LB in reserve not used for anything.

    Nigeria could have 250 units for only about $50 million, fully modernized/upgraded and armed with twin 23 mm cannon or twin 14.5 mm cannon plus night vision combat capability, it will defend a base, do battlefield cargo/resupply to front-line troops with ammo, food, medics, etc. Firepower like a Shilka, won’t let Boko Haram win any fight, it’s cabin can hold lots of extra ammo instead of troops, sustained fire for enemy suppression while the enemy hopes endlessly for it’s ammo to run out, but cabin is loaded with extra, it won’t ! Monguna was said to have fallen only when NA Shilka 23 mm guns ran out of ammo.

    MT-LB with twin 23 mm cannon…..NA and FG, there is your tracked COIN vehicle to bash any Bokos that wants to take on the giant of Africa. I don’t see why Nigeria should not be producing it under licence instead of the Steyr APC.

  3. Kay says:

    Video from Michika

    • igbi says:

      Why do the americans always feel the need to insult us ?

    • igbi says:

      While talking about the usa military do we always call them “usa homosexual army” ?
      Francly I wish we would just send their ambassador away and call ours back and I am not the only one thinking this.

    • rugged7 says:

      @ 0:58
      Why are they using cement blocks in defensive positions?
      Is that enough to stop high calibre munitions??
      What happened to sandbags and Hesco barriers???
      Surely a Nigerian company should be able to mass produce such an elementary defensive equipment?

      • asorockweb says:

        They are just unready.
        And nobody is making sure that they are ready.

        Old habits die hard.

      • Are James says:

        This is not standard Nigerian infantry procedure my broda. Somebody was just being Lazy.

      • egbeigwe says:

        [IMG]http://i57.tinypic.com/2znzjft.jpg[/IMG]
        If you look at the video again you would notice the troops are dug in.
        It appears to be some sort of fox hole\ living quarters. The blocks, sticks and rug are for the soldiers Comfort and protection from the heat. There seem to be a roll of them. Clearly some lessons have been lent.
        Considering that bh come with AA guns mounted on hilux trucks, In situations where they have enough time and resources to plan their defense. they should seriously consider building physical barriers like earth bund walls with bulldozers round their bases.

      • Are James says:

        Sandbags is our SOP for completing a trench based emplacement. If there is sand packed into the hollows of the blocks then we are okay. If not then a mistake has been made.

  4. Kay says:

    Don’t know if anyone saw this extra footage from Jonathan’s frontline visit.

  5. rka says:

    http://saharareporters.com/2015/03/10/jonathan-awarded-500-million-defense-contract-arthur-eze-purchase-refurbished-helicopters

    Apologies for digressing, but further info on that Puma & SU-25 contract. Bear in mind it is SR, but thought might be insightful.

    • igbi says:

      sahara reporters is never insightful, try and see if credible source are reporting it independently. On an other note:

      ABUJA – Following the air and land bombardment to flush out Boko Haram terrorists in the north east,hundreds of the terrorists fleeing from the onslaught have met their waterloo in Gombi town, Gombi Local Government Area of Adamawa State Monday evening. The terrorists according to a statement signed by Colonel Sani Usman, Acting Director of Army Public Relations, “were engaged by troops of 23 Brigade Nigerian Army in a gun battle that led to killing of quite a number of them, destruction and recovery of vehicles, motorcycles, various calibre of weapons and ammunitions”. “These include 4 Hilux vehicles, 3 Anti-Aircraft guns and one .50 inch Browning Machine Gun. Others include 5,000 rounds of 12.7 millimetre ammunitions, 2 boxes of .50 inch ammunitions, 1,000 rounds of Light Machine Gun ammunitions and one Rocket Propelled Grenade 7 tube, as well as one General Purpose Machine Gun”. “Unfortunately, one soldier was wounded in the encounter and he is responding to treatment”. “Troops are mopping up the area to prevent further incursions by the terrorists” he added. – See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/army-kills-scores-of-terrorists-in-adamawa/#sthash.GBdnM5nw.dpuf

    • Kay says:

      Treasonous actions during wartime. This people should be executed but no! Impunity is the order of the day. Man, I’m tired. That’s it for me.

      • mcshegz says:

        which people are we executing sir?

      • rugged7 says:

        Take sahara reporters reports with some caution

      • Are James says:

        My Brodas, if people are stealing money they are stealing money. It does not matter where the news is coming from. Every news involving corruption is occult anyway and you wont get at the truth from official sources but to suggest we should discountenance it and leave it at that because it is coming from SR is cowardly. The perpetrators are the financial Boko Haram that we are talking about. A group capable of this would do anything to prolong a war even if it involves donating equipment to the enemy. The devil wears blue jeans o.

    • Henry says:

      I hope we don’t go forward with this deal, it is just baaad!! On so many levels. It just isn’t worth it.

    • Kay says:

      Eurocopter upgraded 24 RAF Super Pumas to Mk2 for £260 million.
      NAF was once crated and revamped by same EUROCOPTER company. Not sure who did the upgrades but please 6 upgraded choppers for over $400 million…?

    • asorockweb says:

      We have already discussed this “contract”.

      Bloggers in the know said that it was squashed. I hope that’s true.

      This is just a reminder – if one is needed – that only well connected people can instigate high-value military contracts. The NAF didn’t instigate this contract. The NAF didn’t instigate the Cobra contract either.

      We need a formalized, transparent military procurement regime. individuals can’t keep making money from the blood of the people.

      • Kay says:

        I remember now, from the initial Israeli reporting backstage to Beeg about it. I sure hope it never went through. Apart from the 567 with rocket pods looking a bit like an uparmed SOCAT variation, I don’t know what upgrades the 565 went through again after the initial refurbishment and upgrade in 2012.

      • asorockweb says:

        The arming of 567 and 565 can’t possibly be part of this overly inflated contract, could it?

      • igbi says:

        I don’t remember Beegeagle cllaiming that he got the report backstage. To the best of my knowledge he read it on a paper like all of us and its veracity was doubtful and is still doubtful.

      • Are James says:

        This deal has already gone through and the money has been chopped. The napkins have passed over smacked lips and we are just in forensics phase now with all these comments. We saw the tame Pumas being tested in Lagos (they will almost certainly not see action) and soon we will see the SU 25KM ground attack jets take to the skies. We have been had. Sorry o.

      • asorockweb says:

        Those cannot be the pumas.
        The pumas being tested in Lagos were bought by Nigeria years ago.

        Unless of cause, the meant the Gazelles.

        The only reason we don’t have transparency is to make it easier for our leaders to steal money.

    • Deway says:

      We head this hyper inflated treasonable deal before only that the person behind it wasn’t mentioned. I hope it was scuttled. That amount is enough to get us 10 used Su-30 air superiority multi-role fighters and another 10 used Mi 28 night attack helicopters. lets not go wrong this time. By the way, what’s the info on the Gazelles? Where were they procured? How many? What weapons do they carry?

      • ocelot2006 says:

        I don’t think the Gazelles are armed. One was used during GEJ’S visit to the front lines and didn’t carry any pylons or armament.

    • Kola Adekola says:

      Sahara Reporters is best known for LIES.
      They are a big part of the campaign against Nigeria.

      • asorockweb says:

        SR is filled with lies.

        But why can’t we have transparency?

        Why are the simplest of things so difficult?

        We can’t we draw lines – “yes it happens in Nigeria, but at the Ministry of defence.”?

      • Kola Adekola says:

        Oga asorockweb, it is because structures that define due process do not exist for the reason of identity issues. Wherever there is an “anything go’s” society, there is thriving corruption.
        We need firm laws that define the structures upon which we can base our identity and from which due process derives itself naturally. It is all about delineating a Nigerian identity and the rules, expectations and responsibilities (state to citizen and citizen to state) that goes with it.

      • Are James says:

        Where is the lie sir?. We heard about the Puma deal last year as a rumour and discussed it on this forum many months before SR released their story. NAF tested Pumas in Lagos just weeks ago. I just looked at the SR site and photocopied memos exist as auditable trail of documentation to prove their story . Sometimes in life we need a not too nice animal, the mongoose to handle another objectionable animal, the poisonous Adder. After the mongoose kills the snake we can trap it and put it in a cage and two nuisances have been eliminated. Anybody expecting these kind of stories to come from ThisDay or Guardian newspapers before it gets the stamp of credibility is not been fair. ThisDay is unrepentantly pro government.

        There are technical positives to the deal (SU 25KMs are capable aircraft and the Pumas are coming with PGM delivery capabilities, expedited delivery also as I think we have started receiving the ammo elements of the order as we speak) that is what I expected from your comment and not denial because of the source.

        In any case this story should be downplayed as far as possible and filed secretly somewhere in our collective unconscious so that it does not in any way distract the forces from the current objective of booting out the insurgents from even the minutest real estate belonging to Nigeria before 28th March.

    • Kay says:

      Go read June 2014 counterinsurgency thread @ Igbi.

    • Are James says:

      This one is bad.

    • Deway says:

      This one is Kenyan with a South African home office and strong links to UK’s Guardian. Need I say more? Well, going by most open source info, we can say that the reputation of the NA has been seriously called to question if not damaged. Its easy to tell the repeated stories of failure but turn a blind eye when there are successes. But we brought all of this upon ourselves, no doubt. However, we will continue to maintaining the current tempo regardless of what is being peddled out there.

  6. Military procurement should be left to the military and professionals. only proposals from companies and consultants with a proven track record should be accepted and we should as much as possible cut out third parties, the always lead to inflated costs

  7. Deway says:

    I am interested in seeing when those heavy duty SAMIL technicals will be put to use. I won’t be jealous of the unfortunate folks on the receiving end.

  8. jimmy says:

    According to a Red Neck anytime he see s me he says i hope you are not getting your news from SR O with a laugh!
    Understand this deal was discussed a length just as we discussed the raggedly ass KENYAN SHIP. Nigerian Airforce will not be buying any of this raggedly REFURBISHED whatever.
    Let us move on I beg make man read something better o jare
    Anything from GWOZA or Bama?

  9. beegeagle says:

    My sources indicate that it is 23mm Samil truck-mounted ZUMLAC which the NA are looking to incorporate.

  10. igbi says:

    I just wanted to say this: guys if you spot a terrorist sympathizer, then please report to the authorities. Even you are in the usa or europe and you spot one. We all have our roles to play against terrorists.

  11. KKY says:

    Notice snipers in Ghillie suit from mark 0:14

  12. asorockweb says:

    Not so related, but interesting.

    “In 1976 a decision was taken by the APLA High Coomand, Central Committee and the Military Comission to train aviatiors. A group of 22 were identified and sent to the Nigerian Civil Aviation Training Centre at Zaria. Fourteen pilots and eight aircraft engineers were trained. One of those was Deputy Chief of the SAAF, Major General Gerald Malinga”

    http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38312:saaf-museum-aims-to-provide-history-of-non-statutory-forces-air-wings&catid=35:Aerospace&Itemid=107

  13. doziex says:

    If this corrupt deal was indeed allowed to go thru, may God punish every greedy and treacherous soul involved.

    They throw away half a billion USD on this crap , when this blog was admonishing NAF for years to buy the 18 ex indian air force SU-30k plus upgrades at a fraction of the price.

    An Absalon destroyer no be 200 million or so ?

    How many 4 million usd a piece T90 tanks could we have gotten for half the money involved?

    This thieving generation of Nigerians have to be destroyed Rawlins style, for nigeria to have a future.

    And most importantly, young nigerians must develop a disgust for such deals and dealers a like.

    Just think of the opportunity cost ?

    These are the types responsible for all the international humiliation nigeria is suffering today.

    • cerberus89 says:

      amen brother

    • Kola Adekola says:

      My Oga, you are basing all your arguments on “if.”

    • asorockweb says:

      The days of Rawlings style actions are over.

      Can you believe that Ghana was more corrupt than Nigeria in the 70s – that is a fact. But they got Rawlings and we got IBB, and the rest is history.

      All Nigerians, not just young Nigerians, must develop a disgust for such deals.

      We don’t have transparency just so that corrupt can thrive.

  14. KKY says:

    Oga Jimmy,
    Just seen you have posted same

    Respect Sah

  15. igbi says:

    TROOPS of 7 Division of Nigerian Army in Borno State on Tuesday recaptured Bama in one of the “swiftest and fierce ground battles” against the occupation of the border town by Boko Haram insurgents since last September.

    The military’s recapture led to resultant jubilation inside the Maimalari Barracks, headquarters of the 7th Division of the Nigerian Army as Bama, the second largest city in the state has suffered serious setback in the hands of insurgents.

    Bama’s reclaim, which was led by the General Officer Commanding (GOC) of the Division, Maj-Gen. Lamidi Adeosun, was said to be a very “fast and secretive” one in which the officers and men had to toe the line behind the infantry general into the town without knowing his next moves.

    “The GOC did not meet any serious resistance between Konduga and Bama indicative of the fact that the insurgents who are now in confusion had actually retreated and galvanized arsenals in Bama town waiting for the show down to finally reclaimed the captured town last September,” said a Bama resident that came to Maiduguri Tuesday afternoon.

    – See more at: http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/national-news/201299-military-recaptures-bama-town#sthash.xr8QHMbA.dpuf

    • Kola Adekola says:

      Very good! Just Gwoza as the only main base of the vermin left now.
      God Bless our gallant army.

    • asorockweb says:

      “The GOC did not meet any serious resistance between Konduga and Bama indicative of the fact that the insurgents who are now in confusion had actually retreated and galvanized arsenals in Bama town waiting for the show down to finally reclaimed the captured town last September,”

      What does the above paragraph mean?

      Are they saying that Bama LGA has been reclaimed but not Bama town?

      • colloid says:

        It’s likely oga asorockweb. But, we should take into consideration too that the journalist may not have taken into consideration all the info. But, it’s more likely the whole of bama have been taken over by the Army. One thing remain undisputed, “Bama had been recaptured”. Bama LG or the whole town, NA is surely having the upper hand and that’s something to celebrate. Even if it’s just the LG, it’s still a victory–one that will finally led to final liberation of the whole town

      • asorockweb says:

        Agreed.

        It’s a sign of progress. The corruption story got me into a bad mood.

        To the troops in the frontlines, thanks!

  16. hannibal says:

    Gallant warriors on the march

  17. beegeagle says:

    ROSCOE CHIPPED IN AS FOLLOWS:

    The procurement story should be watched carefully, if we start seeing used frog foots and refurbished super puma’s it may be time for us to remove the current Sovereign. NO Matter what good he has done, nobody should play with the 1Billion for procurement, the blood of the men who have died in the NE theater will curse them, and the hands of the living should vote them out. Lets make a big hue and cry over this so that we never see the air craft, and if we do… Then the die is cast and we know that even the executive cares more about lining their pockets than the military capability of Nigeria. This would be a scam too far if true.

  18. beegeagle says:

    ROSCOE WROTE IN AS FOLLOWS

    I doubt Bama town has been taken yet. Olukolade and defence twitter will confirm once the battle is over, reports have been indicating around once weekly attacks on Bama since late December (probing attacks by NA to figure out where defenses are probably).

    It is clear now that Bama is the next target, with the threat of attack on Gwoza the opfor may not be able to re inforce the town, The size of the town and the predominantly urban environment may lead to a long battle as Boss Asorockweb predicted when I asked about the shaping of the battle space. BH will have mined the town as usual and will try and funnel NA troops, Nigerian troops will use maneuver warfare to attack simultaneously on two fronts, backed up superior air power and arty ??and?? Will Chad press from Banki at the same time?

    Once the access roads are cleared then it will become house to house fighting. Does intel know how many BH in Bama? any friendlies that will strike from within (surviving CJTF) . One of the reasons Bama was attacked by BH (apart from staging for Maiduguri) was to decimate CJTF ranks and destroy civilian Morale, this failed and CJTF actually became stronger. There is a chance that Al Barnawi is either in Bama or Gwoza, I think his death or capture leading to his death will be a bigger loss to BH than a false Shekau. Since Barnawi’s faction has responsibility for that AOR.

    Once Bama falls then I forsee Gwoza as next if this is an offensive that has to end before the 28th, then Sambisa last before the rains. By then BH will be a singularly dismounted infantry force. Any truth to rumors I hear that there are actually military bunkers in Sambisa? large networks of Tunnels and emplacements which have been co opted by BH? Said tunnels and bunkers were used for NA exercises in previous decades? Any ex military in the house that can shed light on this.

    • jimmy says:

      OGA ROSCOE
      I can almost be certain that there will BE TUNNELS
      @ Both BAMA Gwoza and Sambisa
      With the Enemy no longer able to move in LARGE CONVOYS freely without quickly getting snuffed out they will resort to tunnels
      As a Civil Engineer, I will say there are a couple of ways to find out
      1a) Evidence of LARGE mounds of Freshly DUG earth moved to the Side.
      1b) Areas recently cleared if the mopping up is coming across a lot of PICK AXES AND SHOVELS AND A LOT OF EMPTY CEMENT BAGS AND NO NEW BLDGS ARE BEING BUILT. Too much discarded wood
      2) Bring in MORE DOGS sniffer DOGS please i am begging they can hear TEN TIMES WHAT WE can’t they can smell TEN TIMES what we cannot smell. PLEASE bring them into GWOZA/ BAMA/ SAMBISA
      3) Cars/ Shatterd APCs parked ODDLY . A car/ truck parked somewhere where it just seems odd it does not quite belong
      4) Freshly swept areas/ or areas with Road kill dead animals thrown across an area to throw people away because of the Smell.
      5) Check under fallen large BRANCHES/ Tree Logs where ESPECIALLY there are no large trees around
      6) Very important :Tunnels have to / must be dug in areas of STRONG SOILS not clay areas ( RED/ BROWN) because of Trench Collapse which can kill they tend to be dug in hard SAND ( brown/ black) . Please note it is not that they can’t be dug in clay areas but they tend to be more Dangerous.
      Lastly the person who tends to know where the Escape hatch is is the EMIR
      Those that are captured need to be Encouraged.
      The Emir/ traditional head of BAMA/ GWOZA/ will know who the well making families are they need to make them aware that they are doing a service to the fatherland by pin pointing the most recent “wells” they have dug in the last one year.
      I cannot stress how important this it this people have to be treated with care ” follow the water literally and you will find them, these places are not on MAPS YOU CANNOT GOOGLE THEM
      Point to ponder:
      Saddam Hussein hid in a make shift tunnel for days .
      From now on approach each well with Caution.
      If I can think of anything else I will let you know.

    • asorockweb says:

      Oga Roscoe, recall that the Chadian said they found tunnels in Gamboru.
      Although they didn’t make clear if these were fighting tunnels, transportation tunnels or escape tunnels.

  19. beegeagle says:

    MC USMAN SENT THIS

    The Battle that would seal the doom of Boko Haram is the Battle of Gwoza and Gwoza hills. As long as those two axis are still in the complete control of Boko Haram then the figt is still very very very far from over.

    Intelligence report indicates that lunatic Abubakar Shekau is hiding somewhere inside the caves of the Gwoza hills or the Mandara mountains. The Gwoza mountains are huge and spacious, I have made 3 different jungle survival drills on that mountain during my MOPOL combat operation course.

    • asorockweb says:

      We will have to clear the Mandaras Mts. again. If we do, then it would be for the 3rd, if not the 4th time.
      SBS and the NA SF mountain, duty calls.

  20. saints says:

    http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/2150835_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188 a low lying base like this is what we need for our conquered territories

Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out / Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out / Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out / Change )

Google+ photo

You are commenting using your Google+ account. Log Out / Change )

Connecting to %s