PROFORCE DEFENCE (NIGERIA) CONFIGURED THESE FOR THE 4 MECHANISED BRIGADE, NIGERIAN ARMY; NOW VISIBLY ON PATROL IN DELTA STATE

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85 Responses to PROFORCE DEFENCE (NIGERIA) CONFIGURED THESE FOR THE 4 MECHANISED BRIGADE, NIGERIAN ARMY; NOW VISIBLY ON PATROL IN DELTA STATE

  1. saleh says:

    cool, I think they should do same with some IVM vehicles too

  2. Henry says:

    I think it’s cheap.

    They should instead have purchased the Proforce Leopard LAPV. Egypt, Ukraine, Chad, Romania all field similar LAPV’s for their militaries, why not Nigeria.

  3. am guessing these are for urban patrols only. they are not fighting vehicles. wondering if they are armoured cos they are riding high on the chasis.

  4. igbi says:

    The only ereason for having Proforce work on the vehicles is to get them amoured.
    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgqzyrNthc

  5. igbi says:

    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzgqzyrNthc

  6. seen now. reason for my assumption is that armourd vehicles typically ride low on their suspension cos of the weight of the armour. also the hiluxes in the videos also have grille protection,which these do not. the clearance of these seem like a typical hilux even considering reinforced suspesion. but then just thinking out loud

    • igbi says:

      1) the vehicles in this picture are still in the factory so assuming the job was finished before this picture was taken is wrong.
      2) what you consider high is relative, you need a point of comparison.
      3) the only purpose of sending the vehicles to proforce is for them to be armoured.

    • saleh says:

      up-armoured vehicles generally have their original suspensions changed to compensate for the added weight.

  7. Oje says:

    Nothing but an act of desperation to become relevant. Too late. Too bad the pitiable shape of the global economy means they have run out of Virgins in Paradise….

  8. Oje says:

    Those amoured vehicles are crap and will not survive 30 minutes on the battlefield…unless those rubber tires are replaced with reinforced tubeless or tracks.

    • mcshegz says:

      Battlefield ke? says at the top “ON PATROL IN DELTA STATE”. hehehehehehehe.
      I think we need to continually appreciate efforts by Nigeria’s private military contractors.
      Oga Oje. i respect your hustle sir.

      • Are James says:

        The owner of this blog has dedicated many a thread to railing against these Toyota Utility vehicles being fielded on the battlefield.

    • Are James says:

      They will not even get to the battlefield. Thank you for your candidness.
      These vehicles are for urban quick reaction in Maid and Damaturu.

    • Deway says:

      Let us be frank. Less armoured ones than these were used to deploy troops into battle in the NE.

    • Roscoe says:

      I am calling it now, this is thieving in action, Like Henry said… Why not a ProForce Leopard LAPV? Does this add value? We know this will see the battlefield in the event of a conflict, soldiers may lose their lives over this.I would prefer to see just one MRAP vs all this thin skinned show vehicles.

      May be good for civilian security details though, not for anything else. Patrols my foot. We are facing enemies(in the delta) who use IED’s and LMG’s,RPGs and we roll out bullet proof trucks

  9. Oje says:

    The title indicates it was originally configured for the 4 mechanised brigade. This is Naija, soon money for real armour will be used to purchase these under the guise of “boosting domestic building capacity” and the money saved will not see the light of day…

  10. drag_on says:

    By Joe Nwankwo Ab
    Uja — The Nigerian Air Force has identified the use of modern technology as a
    necessary boost to its operational capacity just as it declared that it would
    have saved a lot of resources and would have been able to bring the
    operation in the Northeast to a quick conclusion.
    The force also commended the efforts of South Africa and two other countries
    in the war against Boko Haram insurgency in the country,
    The Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Adesola Amosu, told Journalists,
    Thursday, in Abuja at a press briefing as part of activities marking the 51st
    anniversary of the Institution in Nigeria that the adoption of the Network
    Enabled Capability (NEC) “is going to really change the sequence of things
    with the Nigerian Air Force”.

    He stated that with the limited capability of the Air Force now, it was difficult
    for it to carry out some of the operational needs that would have enhanced
    operations in the Northeast, noting that with the acquisition of the NEC and
    other technologies, they would have been able to have an effective down
    streaming to enable them actually see the battlefield as it where, even with
    few aircrafts.
    According to him; “with NEC, we can see battle area from Abuja; we can be
    able to control, sometimes make interjections when we see the footages. It is
    huge because it will make your responsiveness to be more effective. Don’t
    forget if you have that technology going if you can have it twenty four hours,
    the enemy most of the time will have to change position and communicate,
    within the network enable capability you will be able to detect those
    movements and those communication.

    abeg,as the as oga CAS has found out how valuable such net-centric warfare is to them, let them understand that it’s degradation is one of first acts of a future enemy.

    • drag_on says:

      By the way,welcome to the 21st century NAF. Try and drag your colleagues ( those that don’t want to join) in.

      Edit,
      The link.
      allafrica.com/stories/201505080573.html

  11. Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

    Hope ours is coming and would be new, serious numbers and potent ( enough missiles bought) with combat simulators to give the pilot training time.

    Angola To Receive Upgraded Sukhoi Combat Aircraft

    Angola is set to be become the third operator of the Sukhoi Su-30 series twin-seat fighter jets in Africa, following Algeria and Uganda. Six former Indian air force Su-30K (mod) aircraft are due for delivery in the second half of this year. Originally destined for the Belarus air force, they have undergone a major overhaul and repair program at the Aircraft Repair Plant no. 558 in Baranovichi, Belarus, arranged by Sukhoi. This repair plant is seeking business from other Su-30 operators and was an exhibitor at the recent LIMA airshow in Malaysia, which received 18 Su-30MKMs.

    The African continent is considered a potentially big market for the big Sukhoi jetfighters, mostly used ones, which are going to be withdrawn from service in other parts of the world and thus become available cheaply. Few potential customers in the region can afford brand-new airplanes of that size and complexity, but the vast expanse of the continent and ambitions of some local leaders generate an interest. Irkut hopes that the Angolan Su-30K (mod.) will serve as a good example of how used Su-27/30 series aircraft can get a new lease on life through cost-effective modernization.

    Back in the days of war between Ethiopia and Eritrea, a handful of Su-27 single-seat fighters took part in combat operations; these were bought on the secondary market and flown largely by foreign pilots. Then Uganda received six Su-30MK2s new from the Komsomolsk-on-Amur factory in 2011. Oil-rich Algeria operates more than 40 Su-30MKA multirole fighters, delivered new from Irkut in two batches. The latter “A” in the suffix refers to customized Algerian version, which is broadly similar to Indian air force’s Su-30MKI.

    Angola signed for its 12 (some sources say 18) ex-Indian Su-30K (mod.) aircraft in October 2013, part of a larger, $1 billion (U.S.) deal with Russia. Being a poor country, Angola can afford to pay only in small quantities over time, hence the slow execution of the contract. Under a 1996 contract, India bought a quantity of Su-30Ks from Russia, with shipments from the Irkutsk factory taking place from 1997 to 1999. The Indian air force operated them till the middle of 2011. Meanwhile, a major deal was struck between Moscow and New Delhi for the Su-30MKI; a total of 274 are being delivered from Russia or assembled locally at HAL’s Nasik facility, of which nearly 250 are now in service. India returned all of the earlier Su-30Ks to the manufacturer with their residual value deducted from the bill for newly produced Su-30MKIs.

    The Indian air force flew its Su-30Ks extensively, especially after the news came of their return to the manufacturer. Airframes going back to Russia had between 1,000 and 1,500 flying hours, with some showing signs of overstress after extensive flying with high g-loads.

    Having inspected these aircraft, the manufacturer arranged the overhaul deal with Belarus. In addition to beefing up the airframe to ensure a meaningful residual lifetime, the Irkut-controlled Russian Avionics company added some“technical insertions” from the Su-30KN and developed other “added value” programs for the ex-Indian aircraft.These include replacement of some analog instruments with MFI-68 multifunction 6- by 8-inch displays. The airplane’s targeting capability is improved by an additional module in the N-001 radar, referred to as the bypass channel. This add-on has its own data-processing capability through the use of a modern onboard computer belonging to the Baget series. It allows for introduction of additional working modes, including simultaneous firing at two airborne targets with guided missiles; digital mapping; and “ground surface observation” modes. The Su-30K (mod.) can also carry an expanded range of air-to-air and air-to-surface guided munitions, turning an air superiority fighter into a multirole aircraft.

  12. Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

    Asking Price and Operating Cost some military heavy metals
    Asking price average cost per Flight Hour
    Predator – S13M $1500.00
    A10 WartHog – $19M $11,500.00
    Osprey V22 – $72.4M $72,000.00
    F35 – $101M $32,000.00
    F22 – $144M S44,000.00
    F16 C/D – $45M $25,000.00
    F16/Blk52 – $50/45M $ 5,000 (flying only 200hrs a year)
    B2 – $810M $144,000.00
    Mirage 2000 – $5;000.00
    Rafale – $220M $14,000.00
    F15 $17,000.00
    Gripen NG – $3,000.00
    MIG29 – $5,000.00
    SU27/30 – $50/79M $17,000.00
    Euro Fighter – $73,000.00

    2000 Prices No cost of Operation
    A-10 Thunderbolt II ——– FY82 ————— —– $12.1
    A-4 Skyhawk FY77 $2.8
    A-6E Intruder FY88 $55.5
    AH-1 HueyCobra FY95 $11.275
    AH-64A Apache FY94 $16.76
    AH-64D Longbow appr. $15.2
    B-1B Lancer average $178
    B-2 Spirit FY93 $872.25
    B-52 Stratofortress 1961 $5.4
    BAe Hawk 1996 $9-15
    Boeing 767 AWACS 1997 est. $400-500
    C-141B Starlifter Modification program cost over $400 for a total of 270 aircraft
    C-17 Globemaster FY98 $241.0
    C-5B Galaxy FY87 $92.25
    Dassault Mirage 2000 1997 appr. $35
    Dassault Mirage 50 appr. $7.75
    Dassault Rafale B 1996 $64.4
    Dassault Rafale C 1996 $60.6
    Dassault Rafale M 1996 $65
    Dassault Super Etendard 1980 appr. $10.5
    E-2C Hawkeye FY96 $55.27
    E-3A Sentry FY83 $111.9
    EA-6B Prowler FY89 $47.7
    EF-111A Raven $21
    Eurocopter Super Puma/Cougar 1996 military models $7.0-15.0
    Eurocopter Tiger 1996 est. 13.5-14.0
    Eurofighter 1997 est.$54.5
    F/A-18 C/D Hornet FY96 $44.27
    F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet 1996 $48.5
    F-111 1973 $14.6
    F-117A Nighthawk Program unit $111
    Total program costs $6.56 billions
    Unit flyaway $42.6 according to the Air Force

    F-14D Tomcat FY91 $71.9
    F-15 Eagle FY91 $42.875
    F-16 Fighting Falcon FY96 $25.67
    1996 Unit flyaway est. $71.2 for the planned buy of 438 aircraft .FY96 Total program costs est. $71 billions

    F-5E/F Tiger FY83 $11.1
    Harrier II Plus 1 997 (new build) $29.75-34.5
    Harrier/AV-8A 1988 $6.7
    Hercules AC-130U FY90 $53.0
    Hercules C-130H FY93 $35.9
    Hercules C-130J Fy94 $44
    Hercules HC-130H FY90 $42.6
    Hercules KC-130T FY93 $35.0
    Hercules MC-130H FY90 $84.6
    HH-60H/HH-60J Jayhawk FY94 $15.1
    CH-46 Sea Knight 1987 $6.0
    CH-47 Chinook new production $15.9-20.2
    CH-53E Super Stallion FY94 $28.25
    JSF USAF version $28
    JSF USMC version $32
    JSF USN version $35-38
    KC-135 Stratotanker appr. $20.5
    L-39 Albatros 2000 $1-4
    L-159 ALCA 2000 est. $12
    MH-53E Sea Dragon FY94 $28.25
    MiG-23/MiG-27 Flogger 1996 est. $15
    MiG-29 Fulcrum 1997 $15.5 (fully-equipped in lots between 25-100)
    MiG-29 Fulcrum 1997 $24-31 (fully-equipped in lots of 10-25)
    MiG-31 Foxhound 1997 est. $57-60
    P-3 Orion FY87 $50.4
    Panavia Tornado ECR 1997 $38
    Panavia Tornado IDS/ADV 1997 $32-33
    RAH-66 Comanche FY95 est. $13.0 (with research a. development est. at $34.4)
    Saab JAS-39 Gripen $20-25.75
    Sea Harrier 1988 $14
    1991 $18
    SEPECAT Jaguar 1997 $15.5-16.5
    SH-60B Seahawk FY94 $30.81
    SH-60F Ocean Hawk FY93 $22.86
    Su-24 Fencer 1997 est. $24-25
    Su-25 Frogfoot 1997 est. $15.0-15.5
    Su-27 Flanker 1997 est. $30
    Su-32FN 1997 appr. $36
    UH-60L Black Hawk FY97 $8.26
    Yak-141 1997 $ 45-47
    Yak-38 1996 est. $18.5

  13. Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

    Asking Price and Operating Cost some military heavy metals
    Asking price / average cost per Flight Hour
    Predator – S13M / $1500.00
    A10 WartHog – $19M / $11,500.00
    Osprey V22 – $72.4M / $72,000.00
    F35 – $101M / $32,000.00
    F22 – $144M / S44,000.00
    F16 C/D – $45M / $25,000.00
    F16/Blk52 – $50/45M / $ 5000 (flying only 200hrs a year)
    B2 – $810M / $144,000.00
    Mirage 2000 – / $5000.00
    Rafale – $220M / $14,000.00
    F15 / $17,000.00
    Gripen NG – / $3,000.00
    MIG29 – /$5,000.00
    SU27/30 – $50/79M / $17,000.00
    Euro Fighter – / $73,000.00

    Sorry on the formatting on my LP not good

  14. STARTREK says:

    well so much for encouraging the local content bla bla bla.
    why will a company that wants to be taken seriously accept to undertake such degrading deal ? it simply makes nonsense of the company’s profile…
    any ways just woke up from a 7week deep sleep perhaps not fully regained my…

    • G8T Nigeria says:

      Wow, if we don’t encourage our own efforts then expect no miracles. Every nation starts local military equipment manufacturing from a process. From bows and arrows to nuclear weapons. The gradual local manufacturing of military hardware in Nigeria today is useless to you but certainly a bigger and more advance enemy considers that a threat. U may ask why some foreign companies wud rather kill the Ajaokuta steel complex rather than reviving it. Nigeria may start slow, weak but we end up strong. Even under unannounced embargo on weapons acquisition, we have demonstrated strenght and within a short while we all are waiting for shekau next video but I guess he is very busy. Nigeria wants to build satellite, military equipment like weapons, drones, field obs systems and very ambitious motorised manufacturing. The Nigerian Army Igiridi is scattered all over the front lines, our local military industrial complex is growing. The govt is becoming aware of these companies and very soon, just a few partnership deals with friendly foreign companies will land us locally made jets, helos and others. The greatest evil you can commit is for a third world country tryiing to be independent. What you choose not to value in Nigeria may be a serious threat to some companies and even governments. PROFORCE carry go. Welldone

    • Na wa! A company has to make money and. Its not only by doin high end jobs! This shows versatility it also tells potential small customers that the company can do jobs for them and is not focused on only Big military contracts. Bottom line is an expanded customer base and besides its a growing company, one of a kind in Naija, cut them some slack!

  15. Sir Kay says:

    Shekau flees Nigeria

    ■ Military deploys special forces to track fleeing Boko Haram leader

    ■ Drops Thuraya phone line to block traces

    ■ We’ll hunt him down – Army

    http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=118681

    • chynedoo says:

      Is it not a shame that we always hear of terrorists fleeing even when the whole area is saturated with troops. The BH has been on the back foot since Feb this year, how could we not have at least put in place all the measures and counter measures that would ensure he is captured and swiftly brought to justice so that other savages who may wish to step into his shoes will understand they too will be caught.
      Compared to the number of Boko Haram operatives captured in Nigeria, we should have cracked this BH group by now in terms of being able to predict their moves. All the same, we are making progress even if at an irritatingly slow pace

    • Naijaseal says:

      Which of the incarnations of shekau is this?

      Whoever this dude is, he has to be captured. I hope DSS and NIA are on his track

  16. Number one says:

    Mortars (82mm and 120mm).the NA should please get more of them.

  17. chynedoo says:

    All the 3 services in military need UAV/Drone units. But NA in my opinion needs it most because of the operational value it adds to NA missions, plus the added firepower and the deterrence which could likely save lives of frontline troops and increase operational capabilities.
    Ideally, the NA could establish a UAV/Drone unit based in TAC, Makurdi. It could recruit science, geography, engineering students from all around the country on the basis of practical projects in the area of drone/UAV technology, geospatial science, and optics. Getting into this unit should only be reserved for the best of the best. NA could start with acquiring civilian drones to build up the knowledge base and expertise of these group.
    This NA drone unit could be build up expertise by applying their skills to a wide range of civilian issues, riots, floods, air mishaps, road accidents, urban over-watch, or neighbourhood over flights, sports activities etc. If you look closely all these civilian activities require similar expertise and skills. As a experimental group, once all the right skills have been sufficiently acquired, the NA could customise these skills to the practicalities and peculiarities of its operations. This unit could then move into the next phase of building and adapting the acquired expertise and skills to the current and future operational challenges of the NA.
    Given the unpredictable and fluid nature of modern combat situations, the NA MUST have airborne capabilities.
    I think one of the problems we have in Nigeria is we do not seem to ever aim to bring the best of the best in our country together to execute a single, unified purpose for the greater glory of Nigeria. We love mediocrity and have measures and yet wonder why everything is going backwards instead of forward. To show how bad things are, a man who led the country in a different century, 32 years ago has come back to lead us and we are clapping. Where are our best at any time?
    This is seriously affecting us. The Japanese are rebuilding their armed forces in the face of Chinese nationalism, and suddenly they sent out a battle cry, with a warning that only the best will be recruited. The SAS are regarded as one of the best in their class because they only take the best. One of the most feared units with the KGB/FSB is the Spetsnaz because they only take the best.
    I can’t remember the last time Nigeria did anything by presenting its best brains whether in sports, politics, military, education, and even the judiciary. At this rate will end up as the backwaters of Africa.

    • Naijaseal says:

      NAF has about 30 Msc and about 8 PHD guys from Cranfield University in the UK in the field of UAV/aeronautics from what I’ve been able to gather.

      What these guys need is serious funding. Nigeria has the manpower for this technology either based in Nigeria or in the diaspora.

  18. STARTREK says:

    My Boss pls don’t read me wrong
    Am all for local growth and its many benefits
    however robbing Pete to pay BULUS is not my understanding of the CONCEPT.
    why can’t PROFORCE for example sign a deal of advance credit line with THAT UNIT ARM to supply the required number of vehicles in the custom made models already available with it . rather than the vehicles purchased by another, upgraded by another, and yet again serviced by another meanwhile the trademark symbol that is its marketing authority has been reduced if not completely lost. …

  19. Sir Kay says:

    At least the pain job is awesome, like the glossy look. Perhaps they can help the Nigerian police properly paint their vehicles and remove those ugly white NPF paintings on them.

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      Reason that Angola is looking at Aircraft Carriers, if you do not establish your space and guard it ( Land, Sea, Air and the resources.) other nations would encroach and lay their flags. Japan /France guarding an economic entry point. Submarine fleet is more fearful presence than non-missile equipped surface fleet.

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      OOOh ka hefi, Big Matter

      • Eeben says:

        He lifted most of his report off the SOFREP website, added his imagination to it, credited someone as being a “co-founder” of Executive Outcomes (when in fact he wasn’t!!) and demoted me in the process. And then they wonder why no one wants to talk to them??
        I am so sick of the laziness of some in the media! Yet these “journalists” taint the many good ones out there as they are too lazy to do even the most basic of research. I suspect some actually want us to write their media reports and simply allow them to get paid for it.
        The same media that now wants to sing the NA’s praises is the same media that made use of every opportunity to belittle the NA. Sickening in my opinion.
        Rgds,
        Eeben

      • Some journalists still dream up an imaginary shortcut to a pulitzer prize. The article shows no journalistic quest for knowledge and very little research done. Kudos to u and ur team Sir!!

      • Eeben says:

        Thank you Adetayo’s Blog but the credit must go to the likes of Private Jeremiah and his comrades for hanging in there and accepting that we were there to help.
        Rgds,
        Eeben

      • Eeben says:

        I forgot to add that one only has to look at a slant of a “story” to determine who the shadow paymasters are.

  20. Colloid says:

    That’s what happen when one does “copied-and-paste”. The journalist was even writing as if hd really had a “one-on-one” interview with Eeben. I could figure out some politically motivated words.

    • Eeben says:

      He contacted me on Twitter and I told him to speak to the NA. I have been emphatic that any victories by the NA were NA victories and not STTEPs. He, as many other journos, do not want to give the NA any credit.
      I have asked the question to them why they do not investigate the “training” the NA got from the other foreign trainers for several years and why that training was so ineffective. It seems this is something they desperately wish to avoid.

      • Kola Adekola says:

        Thank you, Oga Eeben. They are vultures.
        We have Africa to build, even if our first steps are stuttering, we will get there so long as we remember to put one foot in front of the other.

        You did brilliantly with 72 Mobile Strike Force and deserve every commendation.

      • Eeben says:

        Thank you Kola Adekola, but any such effort can only succeed if the desire and will is there to succeed.
        Rgds,
        Eeben

      • jimmy says:

        Thanks

        Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

      • Eeben says:

        If we do not help ourselves, no one will.
        Rgds,
        Eeben

      • rugged7 says:

        Kudos Oga Eeben.
        Tanx for bringing some dimension and clarity to the matter.
        We have the greatest respect for u in these circles…

      • Eeben says:

        Thank you rugged7. I also wrote about some of this on my blog…
        Rgds,
        Eeben

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      They failed to talk of cocpit/crew protection, because their is none, This plane has not undergone an weapons testing flights. It offers nothing much better than an upgraded Alpha Jet and it will not fare any better, I believe it will soon start having wing stress problems once flown outside the test environment in operational squadrons ( if it get that far) , for the price of 1 x $20M, we can get at lest 3-4 Scorpion upgrade battle tested SU25s, with the cost of a squad of at least 6 = 120Millions, we should be able to by up 18/20 SU25 plus adequate ordinance to conclude on the NAFs ground strike, combat interdiction, requirements. We will be killing cheap targets (Toyota trucks and maybe some IFV/unprotected tanks). Finally the US would not sell to us,.( We still have the sale 4 x Chinooks with held since the early 1980s).

    • gbash10 says:

      The NAF should not use our pilots to experiment that inferior aircraft, Scorpion!

  21. buchi says:

    The US government lied to the world about how Osama bin Laden was killed, skewing the facts so Obama could claim political glory, an investigative journalist has claimed.

    It is alleged that the Pakistani government had been holding the 9/11 mastermind in his Abbottabad compound – located in a residential area known to be vastly populated by military officials – for years.

    The CIA learned of his location after a high-ranking intelligence officer in the country tipped off the US in the hope of claiming a $25 million bounty, the report claims.

    In his investigation, Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh also alleges that the Obama administration negotiated with the Pakistani government and its intelligence officials from the ISI ahead of the raid, but then later claimed it was a secret infiltration mission.

    Hersh, citing an unnamed source, says that Pakistani intelligence services cut the power to bin Laden’s compound ahead of the raid to aid the SEAL team in avoiding local military intervention.
    There was no firefight, the report claims, and the only bullets fired were those that killed the terror chief.

    Barrack Obama concealed the truth about the raid one year before an election in a bid to boost his administration’s popularity, it is claimed.

    The article, published in the London Review of Books, says that bin Laden was also not buried at sea as previously claimed, and that he was in fact buried in Afghanistan.

    Hersh says that Obama’s speech informing the American people about the sucsessful raid was “put together in a rush”.

    He added: “This series of self-serving and inaccurate statements would create chaos in the weeks following.
    “[Pakistani troops] were under orders to leave as soon as they heard the rotors of the US helicopters.

    “The town was dark: the electricity supply had been cut off on the orders of the ISI hours before the raid began.”

    In the article he quotes an anonymous source as saying: “The fact that there was an agreement with the Pakistanis and no contingency analysis of what was to be disclosed if something went wrong – that wasn’t even discussed.”

    The US claimed to have found important documents at the compound – something Hersh’s source disputes.

    The source added: “The White House had to give the impression that bin Laden was still operationally important.

    “Otherwise, why kill him?

    “A cover story was created – that there was a network of couriers coming and going with memory sticks and instructions. All to show that bin Laden remained important.

    “The SEALS should have expected the political grandstanding. It’s irresistible to a politician. Bin Laden became a working asset”

    A series of “lies, misstatements and betrayals” were concocted, the source claims – which have had an inevitable backlash.

    They added: “We’ve had a four-year lapse in co-operation. It’s taken that long for the Pakistanis to trust us again in the military-to-military counterterrorism relationship – while terrorism was rising all over the world.

    “They felt Obama sold them down the river.

    “They’re just now coming back because the threat from ISIS, which is now showing up there.”

    An unnamed Special Operations Command consultant, also quoted by Hersh in the article, says that the assasination of bin Laden was “political theatre designed to burnish Obama’s military credentials”.

    The White House is yet to comment on the claims.

    Rob O’Neill, a former SEAL who claimed to have fired the fatal shot that hit bin Laden in the forehead in Pakistan three years ago, spoke out about the raid last year.

    Now a motivational speaker, he told CNN: “When I’m out speaking, I never mention the bin Laden mission.

    “But any time anyone says, ‘You know my brother died at Cantor Fitzgerald’, one thing I tell them is, ‘All right, Osama bin Laden died like a p***y. That’s all I’m telling you. Just so you know.”

    “He died afraid. And he knew that we were there to kill him.”

    • Colloid says:

      ***START OF QUOTE***

      “If Mr. President had not taken that laudable initiative, you all know what would have happened now. Nigeria is still living in peace, you all are living in peace and that would not have happened but for that laudable initiative he took.
      “So I came to congratulate him FOR LEAVING A LEGACY NOT ONLY FOR NIGERIA BUT FOR AFRICA AS A WHOLE.

      ***END OF QUOTE***

      Lol… See who’s talking! So Derby knows that Being a “Democrat” is beautiful,honourable than being a “Dictator”.
      I hope he is planning on following the “legacy” than just talking and commending.
      And to the AU RRF, i don’t think those four country will be the only “response force” as Egypt is also fighting insurgents in the Sinai, Kenya fighting Al shabab etc. BTW, a RRF would be of countries with military strength(manpower and materials), countries that have experienced insurgency,that have trained personnel in CTCOIN. So, in this regard, the Force won’t be a combination of Four nations alone.

      • Are James says:

        Deby came just to ask why the money supply is slowing down. Pure and simple.

      • rugged7 says:

        That duplicitous nitwit of a boko haram sponsor called Derby.
        He is owing Nigeria in cash and BLOOD.
        He will pay, no matter how long it takes…

    • Sir Kay says:

      Whoa, wait people, so we have 2 countries called Nigeria. Interesting. lol

      “President Idriss Derby of Chad on Monday said a multinational force consisting of Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad and Nigeria”

  22. Kola Adekola says:

    Embarrassing question’ sends Deutsche Welle out of Aso Rock
    From JULIANA TAIWO-OBALONYE, Abuja

    The State House correspondent of the German Radio Deutsche Welle correspondent, Ubale Musa, accreditation tag has been withdrawn.
    The Chief Security Officer to Nigeria’s President Goodluck Jonathan, Mr. Gordon Obua, heads the Villa security.
    Ubale’s accreditation was withdrawn shortly after the visit of the President of Chad, Idris Deby to the President Jonathan at the State House.
    Ubale had asked the visiting head of State the where about of Abubakar Shekau, the Boko Haram leader, since he had earlier claimed he knew his whereabouts as well as the relationship between the multinational task force fighting in Lake Chad and the South African mercenaries fighting with them in Sambisa forest.

    Deby had responded that he was not aware of the presence of mercenaries in Sambisa fighting alongside multi-national troops.

    Ubale was first called aside and questioned after which he was escorted into a waiting van and driven out of the Villa.

    He was later allowed to come back escorted by a security personnel to pick his belongings in the press gallery and his car and driven out of the Villa.

    With the withdrawal of his accreditation tag, Musa can no longer report the activities of Nigeria’s President for Radio Duetsche Welle from the Presidential.

    http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=118993

    • rugged7 says:

      I don’t understand….
      What is wrong with that question???

      • Sir Kay says:

        You are not alone lol, i don’t get it either. useless people

      • asorockweb says:

        It’s a nonsensical question.

        There’s a queue for accreditation as a presidential villa correspondent.

        If he is going to waste everybody’s time with questions like that, maybe his spot is better filled by someone else.

      • The journalist asked a direct Q, nothing wrong with that. He clda just done d lazy thing and printed d rumours he had been hearing. Real Journalists ask hard Qs. Nothing embarrassing in this, just looking for clarification of a rumour, @ least he dint go to press with the rumour.

      • I wanna beleive someone had a bone to pick with the reporter cos d question is nt enough to get hime expelled in my opinion. Yes the lies about merceneries is annoying but the reaction ws overkill.

  23. gbash10 says:

    @ Captain Tobias Wilcock, the whole data you posted here is outdated, the price tag for platforms, and the operating cost.
    If we want to get a platform that has a low operating cost, then let the government acquire WW2 Spitfire fighters if that would satisfy the conservatives.
    To get modern war fighting platforms,we must spend money!

    • Capt Tobias Wilcock says:

      That is true, most of the aircraft in the long list are no longer in production, but the list below and operating costs are a very close estimates, of cause the hourly cost would drop with increased utilization, but the cycles would be high, causing scheduled maintenance before calender intervals. Any serious nations cuts it has their pocket is or you would you rather storing assets and no properly experienced pilots to fly them like S.Africa and us too in some cases, We are better off, matching our assets to meet the threat. Where does the money come from, it come from the commercial businesses of the state, In the old days the military took all assets of area they conquered to fund their military and purchase better arms. The last was such events was Nazi Germany. Nowadays that would be called looting, hence we have to generate the funds as a nation and apply as per adequate budget ( not N500 million on refurb 2 x Pumas and 4 x Su25s. As for WW2 Spit fires, they are actually very difficult to acquire and expensive to maintain, more over we do not like our pilots to fly with “gunshot wounds”.

      Asking Price and Operating Cost some military heavy metals
      Asking price / average cost per Flight Hour
      Predator – S13M / $1500.00 per hr
      A10 WartHog – $19M / $11,500.00 per hr
      Osprey V22 – $72.4M / $72,000.00 per hr
      F35 – $101M / $32,000.00 per hr
      F22 – $144M / S44,000.00 per hr
      F16 C/D – $45M / $25,000.00 per hr
      F16/Blk52 – $50/45M / $ 5000 per hr (flying only 200hrs a year)
      B2 – $810M / $144,000.00 per hr
      Mirage 2000 – / $5000.00 per hr
      Rafale – $220M / $14,000.00 per hr
      F15 – / $17,000.00 per hr
      Gripen NG – / $3,000.00 per hr
      MIG29 – /$5,000.00 per hr
      SU27/30 – $50/79M / $17,000.00 per hr
      Euro Fighter – / $73,000.00 per hr

      This should give an idea how much we need to have budgeted to make the pilots operational proficient and with necessary flight and weapons experience to be operational sound.
      Apart for type rating and conversion time, each pilot should be able to put in at least 200hrs per year. A squadron of 12 platforms should have at least a minimum of 18 set of crew (dual seat cockpit) or 18 pilots (single seat). maintaining a bigger pool of pilots would be great for meeting up with any platform increase. Considerations should be ? do we want a larger number of platform which might equate to less funds being available for actual pilot flight time/experience/training, expend more money on large maintenance costs, spares, etc or do we have a moderate and compact fleet that matches our envisaged and present challenges, with more funds for pilot to fly more operational sorties, a bigger pool of trained pilots that can be deployed to our cutting edge platforms. In most global forces the adequate time considered for a front line pilot is 1000 hrs total time (with a lot of fast jet experience inclusive), anything less than this is courting and asking for a high rate of losses through attrition, the same goes for pilots flying medium Utility platforms (Mi- 171, Mi-35, Pumas) and less time ifs generally for lighter helicopters (attack or scout), they are more forgiven during maneuvers. control input’s response inertia is less. Also in this process the technical and engineering personnel get to know there assets more in terms of dispatch reliability and spares to be kept to counter AOG
      situations
      Assuming a squadron of 12 aircrafts
      18 pilots x 200hrs/Yr x $3000 = $10M or N2.345 Billion for flight hours (NG Gripen).
      or
      18 Pilots x 200hrs x $17,000 = $61M or N19 Billion ( SU 27/30).

      When the Alpha jets were bought, the general principle was that they were low cost platforms in peace time for NAF pilots to acquire experience by training on modern western cockpits, low intensity/show of force sorties and effective CAP sorties, their core design and deployment was for training, the heavy metals were the MIGs and Jaguars ( which showed muscle in Togo during the Ghana/Togo border incident)

      We could be decked out with
      Ground Support Assets – SU25 (dedicated ground strike and COIN support)
      Multirole Fighter – Gripen or F17s
      Air Superiority – SU30 ( It is electronically touted as defeating the Rafale)
      MU Helicopetrs – Mi171 series
      Attack/Tactical Helicopters – Mi 35 series.
      Scout/Recce/Attack Helio – T129
      Heavy Lift – C130s, G222 and also acquire a squadron of Brazilian KC390s for continental and strategic ops
      Strategic deep strike bomber – With ample war load to take out runways and strategic structures in one strike ( of cause with proper ordinance type), the best still remain a refitted or Indian upgraded Jaguar, could be extremely manually aggressive employing it’s low level high speed penetration capability carrying serious ordinance load. This ability depends more on pilot training than electronics, If you train well and focused enough, you can even beat the manufacturer at his game.

      Most of the other fighter/bombers rely still on electronic counter measures that are available to any buyer and as such the vulnerable and weak spots are available to our adversaries as well. most fighters considered still lack the ability to do high speed punch/penetration and ultra low levels into hostile environ. We need to look at the order of battle of such militarizes operating medium to high altitude strike aircraft.

      1) They first field assets to attain and hold air superiority.
      2) The have capability to carry out “serious home grown” not “open market” bought electronic countermeasures to jam radars, anti aircraft batteries.
      3) Then they bring in aircraft to inflict strategic damage on their adversaries. through a clean channels they have secured

      Except our militarizes have started working with local/domestic Profs in electronics,avionics to create jammer pods, it will be an up hill task to carry out this strike activities beyond our borders. ( Terrorist desert training camps in the Sahara )
      We need to get our guys some serious training time and flight experience, because we would be meeting in almost all the fronts, Mercenary ex- soviet era pilots , who have years of experience and intimate knowledge of their platforms (Ukrainians MiGs & SU pilots in Chad, same in Equatorial Guinea, the Cameroonians train in France and acquire experience on rotation slots in Gabon’s Mirage F1s .
      I am not opposed to top notch platforms, it is just that we must budget to enable ti to serve us well, when required ( How many of our platforms are grounded due funds and lack of adequate planning and budget).

  24. STARTREK says:

    that report about that JOURNALIST is not the fact after the matter, However since I cannot divulge… I rest as a personal argument for the record.

  25. doziex says:

    Oga Eeben, I want to personally say thanks for your intervention, albeit an 11th hour one.

    Remember, I advocated STTEPs involvement for damn near 2 years on this blog.

    I was actually called all sorts of names for this effort.

    As a student in real time of your past exploits, and also a student of the problems that has bedeviled NA for the last 20 years, I knew this was a perfect fit years ago.

    The opposition I encountered on this blog, I consider very unfortunate, I remember telling some bloggers that they would have the blood of innocent Nigerians on their hands, for opposing my advocacy.

    I predicted the military “bases and towns” would be overrun, and Nigerians would pay a very high price that we may not soon recover from.

    It’s all in the archives of this blog.

    NA needed reorientation in their TTPs, and STTEP finally provided it.

    The govt also finally decided some military procurement was necessary and way past due.

    Kudos would always go to NA troops, who when given the right training/mentorship, and the right equipment, are as good as any out there.

    My only regret is that my PMC advocacy wasn’t heeded by GEJ’s administration earlier.

    Thousands of lives would have been spared.

    The whole Chad/Niger insulting saga and the field day that was had by the western press could have been avoided.

    Tragedies like Baga would NOT have happened.

    But here we are, we waited for BH to do the foreseen damage, before someone decided to do the necessary.

    • rugged7 says:

      Oga Doziex, leave this matter.
      Hindsight is 50/50 abi na 20/20.
      Western media will have their derogatory saga about anything Nigerian or African, even if its a cock and a hen in spiritual copulation.
      I do recall ur insistence on the matter, and at a time i actually wondered if u had some serious vested interest in the matter.
      Anyway, water under the bridge…for now.
      Kudos to u Doziex, Eeben,
      But especially to our RUGGED boys in army camouflage who lay down their lives daily that we may revel in democracy and freedom.

      A great man once said…

      The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil
      Is for good men to do nothing.
      – Edmund Burke

      • Eeben says:

        Whereas I appreciate the thanks from everyone, Doziex – the credit goes to the men of the NA and let no other story cloud that fact.
        The media are out to create perceptions but do not be fooled by them.
        Rgds,
        Eeben

      • jimmy says:

        You have said it all Oga Rugged .Nigeria has to move forward.

        Sent from AOL Mobile Mail

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