Another unfamiliar helicopter with unfamiliar markings emerges, albeit inadvertently
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Field Marshall Beegs, the helicopter is Eurocopter AS350 Écureuil (Squirrel)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocopter_AS350
ABSOLUTELY correct.
Yours truly is correct as well. That airframe was not known to be in the inventory of ANY of the military services until TODAY.
These are the Helicopters we were interested in during the Yar’Adua tenure Oga beeg. Late President Yar’Adua had signed a contract in France for the delivery of 12 Fennec Helicopters, but they were never delivered.
That is precisely what I was thinking…Ecureil or FENNEC? I recall and hqve stated so copiously on this blog that President Sarkozy approved the sale of twelve FENNEC helics, four patrol craft and thirty inshore patrol boats to Nigeria. That was around 2009-10
But I thought those were meant for the Nigerian Navy, not Airforce.
PMC aircraft?. AS 530 is very close to the Gazelle.
It has NAF markings on it. I think I can make out NAF 201 on the Helicopter.
Looks like NAF 301.
Would be interesting to know what lurks beneath the “Blue LYLON” wrap
They are Rocket pods.
rocket pods most likely @KKY
most probable 7.62mm or different calibre machine gun pods
At least this chopper will do hot and high without problem. Cheap as well.
I take it also that Super Puma Helicopter inventory has also increased by two (2) at least.
I think Nigeria’s insistence on holding on to command of the MNJTF is in order. It would not make sense to have it any other way
And I am sure the idea of rotating the command was Idris Deby’s…
i couldnt agree more. in btw Oga Beegs can u look into your crystal ball and let us know the details of the aircraft in the Military’s inventory. numbers and type?
Here we go. Uncanny similarity to the chopper in the picture. I could be wrong though.
http://www.airbushelicopters.com/website/en/ref/H125M_45.html
Click to access AS550C3e-MP-06%2014E.pdf
Seems the French know how to make very simple designed but durable/rugged/capable helicopters. Hope we pile them in numbers as easy replacements for the 24 MBB Bo 105s.
since te design is simple, why don’t we reverse enginear them ? Are we that lazy ?
It is the same Airframe as show, Ecuriel, in the 80s AERO contractor operated and mastered this helicopter type, they ran full convertion, ground school,flight training in house in Lagos/Warri.
If purchases in correct number (12), placed in the correct role, carries the ordnance as shown, It would be a perfect COIN platform as Recce, Light Armed ,etc and can play combat interdiction roles .
It is simple enough to fly for a fledgling Army aviation unit without clashing with NAF or roles occupied by other platforms. They would be very valuable as armed air assault to responding NA conveys to BH attacks ( Ultimate Ambush Busters, as done in Afghanistan by the Soviet Air Units). the brochure show it is quite “Spartan” in ground turn around and support. this helicopter does not replace the Mi25/35 heavy delivery and armored protection of the crew in a heavy AA environment., but if operated with cun and utilizing it’s maneuverability and stealth ( tree top hopping and “nap to earth” ), it might increase it’s actual survival index above the Mil series in a ManPad (active) environment by denying the SAM the ” line of sight” required for a lock on with it’s ultra low level tree top tactics, the top mounted optics would further enhance this viability, if flown well..
According to Premium times the. Army Aviation unit is headed by a two star.
What can $30million buy in terms of weaponry?. Obviously air elements are out of the MNJTF orbat . The Europeans may also have agreed to shell out some money as well.
I think is for overhead because PMB said each country will be responsible for arming its contigent
The 30 Million is fto equip the HQ nt to equip the forces
https://www.facebook.com/DefenceInfoNG?fref=nf
HEADS OF STATE AND GOVERNMENT OF LCBC COUNTRIES AND BENIN APPROVE IMMEDIATE DEPLOYMENT OF NATIONAL CONTINGENTS
The extraordinary summit of the Heads of States and Government of LCBC member countries and Benin Republic ended in Abuja with the approval of the immediate deployment of the national contingents to the Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF) Headquarters at N’Djamena to staunch the momentum of the fight against insurgency in the region.
The summit tagged “The Security Situation And Emergency Plan For Development In The Lake Chad Basin” offered the leaders the opportunity to adopt the emergency plan for development in the Lake Chad Basin, to fund it with $63.2 Million and finalize the instrument of MNJTF to be based in N’Djamena, Chad and also all emergency development programs of the commission in favour of the vulnerable population in the region in order to fight the root causes of insecurity relating to poverty.
In a communiqué signed by the leaders at the end of the summit, the leaders therefore approved the concept of Operation and Strategy, Operational and edited document of the MNJTF and the deployment of the national contingents including the sum of $30M for the installation and equipping of the headquarters. The Heads of States and Government also approved the establishment of the executive secretariat at the headquarters of the mission with the secretary of LCBC as the Head of Mission including the nomination of three key posts of Force Commander (Nigeria), Deputy Force Commander (Cameroon) and Chief of Staff (Niger) to be rotated yearly.
They therefore requested the support of the African Union, strategic partners like the European Union, France, United Kingdom, United States of America in favour of MNJTF, and sought a declarative statement by US President, Security Council in support of the operations of MNJTF against Boko Haram.
Our lazy , incompetent journalists are at work again.
Whenever Military Action is being taken across what is recognized as international borders between Countries who could be operating conducting such Military actions in another Countries even if there is an agreement between both Countries there has to be some form of paperwork filed not just with the UN security Council but also the AU.
“and sought a declarative statement by US President”, this is becoming a comedy.
I didn’t know the usa were an international agency like the UN.
Okay. I agree with you on this one. Asking for a declarative statement from Obama is unnecessary rubber stamping. We have lost thousands of civillians to Boko Haram, we dont need validation by any American President to tell us that the operations to kill everyone of the terrorists is a good thing and should go ahead. Having a bounded/matured relationship with the west is acceptable but this is beginning to sound like ‘kinky sex’. Excuse the expression gentlemen.
No not an international agency, just an arm of the Nigerian govt!! afterall they asked us for a shopping list and we dashed home gleefully to go prepare one.
perhaps someone said “US” mistakenly while he meant “UN”.
Yes maybe UN Security Council President was what was meant but the principles remain the same. The UN does not need to validate us killiing the killers of our children.
The NAF serial Numbers 201,202 and 203 have already been taken ( Catalogued) for the ISR BEECHCRAFT KING PLANES that the outgone GEJ administration bought early 2014 .Owning to their success according to the testimony of the CAS and OGA HENRY at leat three more are expected based on these positions, I would say this is the first of at least a minimum of three which logic dictates will be catalogued as NAF301, 302 AND 303.
Here is where it gets tricky the CAS reported at least three already FOBS :BADAGARY, SOKOTO, and the third i forget at that time I personally thought they will be home to the recently acquired Gazelles of the now active ARMY AVIATION UNIT …… Right now I am not sure.
What i am sure about is that based on NAIJA’S PROCUREMENT History of French Helios there is at least two more somewhere in Nigeria.
Hmmm, I had no idea the Beechcrafts were ISR planes. interesting. What other stuff do they have on board?
Cool they are for ISR. Always thought they were for VIP transport
Oga Saleh, NAF has beechraft for ISR and VIP. Both types are in NAF service.
The 3rd FOB,that should be Mubi.
Thank you .
Sorry *at least*
http://www.thecable.ng/minimah-visits-borno-adamawa-motivate-troops
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/boko-haram-joining-cameroons-forces-as-they-take-on-the-islamist-group-10311358.html
why do these “journalists” keep dashing Nigeria’s war archievements to any country or even entity they interect with ? This report says Nigeria doesn’t allow cameroonian soldiers on Nigerian soil, yet the same report claims that it is chad and cameroon who forced boko haram into the sambisa forest. How did the cameroonians archieve that without being on Nigerian soil ? I really wonder if facts do matter to “journalists”. And as for cameroon, Nigeria also has a spy network even in biya’s palace. And I take it as a great insult that cameroon would be saying that it needs Nigeria to accept foreign troops into Nigeria. Cameroon, the same country which refused Nigerian troops the right to hot pursuit into cameroonian territory. Cameroon, what goes around, comes around.
And for the claim of boko haram attacks on cameroon coming from across the border now as opposed to when it was coming from cells in cameroon, I just have this to say:
When was that ? camerron never aknowledged that boko haram were operating bases in cameroon and always said after each attack that it was coming from across the border. The cameroonians are full of lies.
Also I don’t understand the correlation with suicide bombings and an imagined consolidation by the boko haram terrorists. Because the last time I checked, suicide bombing didn’t require the terrorists to be mobilised in great numbers and didn’t require the terrorists to hold territory. suicide bombing is only the result of the terrorists losing the war and being desperate to make headlines.
Don’t mind the Cameroonians and their noise making. Are they now saying the suicide bombers will dress up in sambisa and move tens of kilometres from Nigeria into Cameroon. They are just jokers seeking attention
Nothing’s being said about the North Central…..except the report on the soldier and policeman who were killed in Zaki Biam! Also the 6 soldiers who were gruesomely killed in Jos or Taraba and the villages overrun and sacked in Benue….I’m not sure the STF in Jos have enough capacity to flush out the herdsmen, rustlers and gangs there!
They will put that under local intra-state politics and use some funny joint internal security task force to tackle it. After that it becomes a mere budget sub head and gets managed in a routine way until mischievous elements exploit it for their own purposes.
U have a valid point regarding NC, there’s a lot of carnage going on there too
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/life-as-a-boko-haram-captive-story-of-kidnapped-tribal-chief-and-family-gives-an-insight-into-workings-of-islamist-organisation-10306123.html
http://www.punchng.com/news/russian-oil-firms-plan-10000-jobs-in-nigeria/
great new the Military as compiled a list for onward transmission to G7 nations of the logistics and hardware necessary to finish off Boko Haram amd to keep them finished! My guess is that we shall have several Tokunbo APCs and aircrafts, lots of Comms equipment and PGMS. Any guess?
So they basically denied us offensive weapons when GEJ was in power, now all of a sudden you think they will now give us offensive weapons because we have a new President? That’s petty of them, isn’t it? Let’s not forget, we have a new leader, but our soldiers remain the same, nothing has changed, so why give offensive weapons to the same military you once denied offensive weapons to?
So if they give us, that means their grind was with GEJ, and that’s pretty petty.
Yes
Sir Kay. I respect your hustle sir.
Anybody who knows the world of Geo-politics will clearly see the signs on the wall; Nigeria must bow or pretend to bow to international pressure, convey some kangaroo court and publicly shame its Generals just so as to garner few points, and possibly heave a sigh of relieve, even if its temporary. Is this a shame? time will tell what Nigeria’s real strategy is, because I’ve always believed that the way you fight a hydra-headed morally corrupt bully is not through open confrontation and palpable defiance but through surreptitious tactics; i.e, play along but do what you have to do until you have the major balls to confront.
THIS IS WAR.
Well, as the newspapers have reported recently Nigeria’s AGF’s first assignment would be to probe AI’s report
Nigeria is been demanded to show where its allegiance lies; she will be asked to compromise and sacrifice to prove such allegiance, in exchange for a bowl of porridge; Nigeria’s only savior is Nigeria, increased local capacity for sustained national defense, we cannot keep bowing down backwards to either the east or the west, for how long; for how long. As for me and my house; Nigeria has no choice but to play along while building up serious capacity to project force deep into the coast of Libya. Nigeria must seek to join this PROXY-WW3 in an offensive capacity; Note: this WW3 is been fought by proxy, militia, insurgents, and so called terrorists. Nigeria must start to support parties albeit secretly, that can send her messages loud and clear; YOU SUPPORT TERRORISTS IN NIGERIA, NIGERIA WILL SUPPORT TERRORISTS IN YOUR COUNTRY.
http://www.punchng.com/news/agfs-first-assignment-is-to-probe-ais-report-buhari/
AGF’s first assignment is to probe AI’s report – Buhari
President Muhammadu Buhari on Friday said one of the first assignments for whoever he would appoint as the Attorney-General of the Federation would be to investigate the report released recently by Amnesty International.
The report indicted top officers of the Nigerian military of gross abuse of human rights.
The President, in a statement by his Senior Special Assistant on Media and Publicity, Mallam Garba Shehu, insisted that his government would closely study the report.
“The president is quite disturbed by the allegations contained in the report. The next step is to look into the allegations and confirm or disprove the disturbing details,” the statement read.
Shehu added that once the AGF studies the report, he would give the President advice on an appropriate course of action.
This, he added, was in addition to the internal inquiry Buhari had asked the armed services to undertake by themselves.
The presidential spokesman also restated the President’s commitment to human rights, and his promise that there would be no human rights abuses under his government.
“Any allegation of human rights abuse that takes place during the tenure of President Buhari’s government will be swiftly investigated and dealt with,” he said.
Th politics is very complicated, its not something we can discuss without here without stirring up very strong not too good feelings;however that is behind us now-we have now joined the elite team of countries that will receive western military aids-weapons for free.
Things from thousands of MRAPS,APCS,traning,intels flights e.t.c are up for grabs for free!
Look what AI wrote about the war in yemen. Notice that AI is blaming the deaths and chaos on the use of anti-aircraft weaponry, rather than the bombings which are devastating yemen right now ! Read this and then tell me again that AI is fair and doesn’t have a western agenda:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/articles/news/2015/05/yemen-scores-of-civilians-killed-and-injured-by-anti-aircraft-fire-and-airstrikes-on-weapons-depots/
Also compare that with reality on the ground:
So according to AI it is anti-aircraft equipment which is destroying yemen, not the airstrikes. This AI is so full of it !
Yep, it is official AI is a propaganda tool.
Also notice the soft talk of AI on saudi arabia and the avoidance of use of words such as “war crime” and “human rights abuse”. How on earth can amnesty international share the blame of the carnage on those being bombed and those doing the bombing ? Do they really think those reading them are idiots ? I post this to further expose AI.
Oga Igbi. I respect your hustle sir.
Only mind slaves dont believe that AI is nothing but a tool in the armory of decadent and morally bankrupt powers, seeking to hold onto the world order as it is.
Nigerian govt. bans police, other para-military agencies from use of camouflage uniforms
The use of camouflage uniforms by various security agencies other than the Armed Forces namely the Army, Navy and the Air Force has been banned.
The Nigerian Police will however use the uniform when in Joint Operation with the military or on special operation such as specific anti-riot missions, a statement by the Director of Defence Information, Chris Olukolade, said Friday.
Mr. Olukolade, a Major General, said the new rule followed the directive of the National Security Council approving the recommendations of a committee on measures to streamline the use of camouflage uniforms.
This, he said, was in view of the security implications and concerns raised on the clamor, duplicity and proliferation of camouflage uniforms in the country.
“The use of camouflage/fatigue is therefore restricted to the military and for occasional use by the police henceforth,” the statement said.
Mr. Olukolade added, “The directive also stipulates that the military is to adopt only two types of camouflage for the three arms of the Armed Forces.
“All para-military agencies using various camouflage/fatigues uniforms have up to January 2016 to withdraw such materials currently in their inventory.
“With this development, the Ministry of Justice along with law enforcement agencies have been tasked to ensure that extant laws guiding the use of uniforms in Nigeria are strictly enforced.
“In the same vein, the Office of the National Security Adviser has been vested with the authority to vet and clear any production and supply of camouflage uniforms in Nigeria.
“The proliferation and imitation by criminals and impostors using uniforms especially the camouflage have been generating some concern in national security circles.
“The development has been communicated to all the agencies by the Office of the National Security Adviser.”
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/184908-breaking-nigerian-govt-bans-police-other-para-military-agencies-from-use-of-camouflage-uniforms.html
Is there really a point in this banning of camouflage? What’s with this obsession of banning things? In many countries, I have seen ordinary people, especially those in blue collar jobs dress in full military fatigue and they are not even from the police. US para-police in some southern states dress in full military kit during special operations. In fact, the MOD has an online shop where you could by current British army gear, uniforms, jackets, ceremonial army uniforms, the whole set even tactical vests, mag pouches etc.
Problem with misuse of camouflage in Nigeria has to do with the mind-set of Nigerians, rather than security. Once we see anyone wearing a camo in naija, we belief they are automatically from the military. In fact misuse of camouflage goes to the misuse of uniform and the abuse of authority that goes with it by most personnel of armed uniformed services in Nigeria from police to military, customs to immigration and even civil defence. Whether camo is banned or not, nothing stops a criminally minded individual from dressing in military uniform to fleece unsuspecting citizens, or engage in all manners of criminal activity.
What is the point?
You can buy full British army kits here
http://www.ex-mod-textiles.com/
let us go back to the basics-
(1) Wilitary wears camo to actually attempt to hide from the perceived enemies ( not hiding parse,but not to at least be in the full glare of the bad guys looking for you)-Police do not really have that job description- we are meant to be comforted by the fact that they are around and visible.
(2) A man will not change his bad ways when he is poorly paid,his pension is routinely stolen ( he dosen’t have too much hope in the future);He has no assurance of appropriate reward for handwork due to nepotism that is wide spread in the force and he has not be properly trained to face the ever present challenges-simply because you changed his clothing. In Russia police have terrible fashion sense with an awkward looking cap-they have more respect on the street than soldiers- i mean this!.
(3) In UK ,bank robbers,pipeline vandals,terrorists,kidnappers e.t.c. have not formed the habit of wearing military uniform to facilitate their evil mission-chiefly because the military to civilian relations is great and civilians do not fear the soldiers on the street-they love him! He never whips anybody and he is not available for hire to harass people or break the law-looking like him will further complicate the mission of a criminal in most instances. Here it is the opposite.
(4) The Fg is not banning the camos completely in NPF- it can only be worn during joint military-police missions or military style missions that actually requires a camouflage from the perceived enemy
(5) This was really not properly thought out by the police top brass- it was copied from middle eastern countries most of them that seek to keep trouble troublesome citizens at bay by fear and intimidation-since their citizens do not have too much deep respect for the police any longer. it is a badly planned attempt to cause the regular police pertain in military prestige and glory
The dressing means little-overhaul their minds by better pay,better basic training and CPDs,better housing,keep their pension and stamp out corruption and they wont need a new fashion to perform.
Dear Solorex,
Very important is the Civil military relationship, and this has to be worked on and improved by the Officers.
The origins of the Nigerian Army was based on the being colonial master’s enforcer, they were meant to be unfriendly and isolated from the populace, it was made clear that by associating with the colonial powers (white people) they were a notch above the “Natives”, whom they were ordered to violate during for tax collections or brutalized for planting food crops instead of cash crops (in the early stages of the colonization, the ” Bature/Oyinbo” Masters in order to get the message across to the natives ordered that farmers be beheaded and their heads left on a stake on their farm as warning for planting wrong crops in designated cash crop areas) . This attitude seems to still be sub-consciously planted in the mind of our uniformed men/women, most joined thinking it would save them from harassment they had earlier faced or chance to subjugate and do the same to the civil population, hence anything goes.
Record show that Civil/Military relation ship plays a part during conflicts, Eg Falklands, the conscripted ground forces though outnumbering the British refused to put up a show based on their relationship with the Military Government. in contrast to the Brits supported by every village, Successfully military s, in this days of asymmetric warfare have to be owned and loved by the populace and vis visa, another example is the Israeli military during their wars ( Yom Pour, 6 day war), from the wars of independence it was built as a peoples militia/army, no gaps between the civil populace both with the on objectives and focus. The American Military was also formed on a bound between the Military and civil populace – Minute Men ( private individuals that promised to mobilize within a minute of being called), during their war of independence against the British.
Also the villagers in our N/E towns should to be armed at least with Double barrels, with their larger numbers and knowledge of the terrain they would be able to hold off BH at close quarter during urban fighting at night in their villages ( this guns offer no threat or open field dangers to the regular military)..
The way it should be is that once a Nigerian sees a Nigerian military officer in our uniform, all his fear should go away, because he should see him as his champion and defender . In Israel people give up their seats in public transport for a uniformed soldier, in America showing up in a military uniform at the airport means you would be upgrade, All being out of respect not fear as it is done back home, this we are the conquers attitude and the civilian populace are the vanquished need to go, and the disciple of steel need to be brought back by the Officers, cheering should be done by Nigerians as a whole, the military should not be cheering it’self or turned cheer leaders.
Also the maintaining, on time salary, pension, insurance and integrating the housing of the police within the populace would be a great incentive for these men to stay within the law or breaking the law means you lose it all.
Nice try, Igbi.
I would love to see you make AMNESTY blush some more on Twitter. Hoping to read an interesting exchange
Their handle is : @amnesty
thanks Chief, I’ll try
@solorex@ and Capt Tobias Wilcock
The uniformed officials in Nigeria need to work harder at building warm relationships with the civilian population, a relationship built on trust, respect and equality. We do not need to fear our uniformed officials especially those bearing arms. Much of the suspicions and mistrust of uniformed officials stem from a lack of respect for fellow citizens. Security is not about fear and aggression nor is it the sole responsibility of the armed forces and the government but every one of us. Banning camouflage is simply a cosmetic approach to a perennial problem. It would have been sensible for they army to explain to Nigerians that wearing camouflage does not make an individual a police or military personnel. Until Nigerian uniformed personnel change the mind-set of master-servant relationship, the idea a bloody-civilian must defer to a armed uniformed personnel, the abuse of military and police uniforms by impostors and personnel of these services will continue. Politicians also appear to promote this myth of superiority of armed uniformed individuals, you only need to see what the uniformed security details of some of our politicians do on the roads in Lagos, it is even worse in Abuja, and many of the states in the SE and SS, the treatment of other Nigerians by these uniformed bodyguards, mainly soldiers and police is simply unbelievable. Uniformed personnel of the Nigerian armed forces ought to know respect for the uniform is earned not given.
the soldiers who have given their lives so thzt you can live, have they earned your respect yet ?
I doubt you grasp the logic of the issue raised nor the substance of the point made
you are entitled to doubt me, I am not a God.
@chynedoo, you are certainly very arrogant. I only wish you could be as accurate as you are arrogant.
People, you guys should calm down a little bit. First of all, for having lived in the barracks and for having traveled to a lot of countries, I can tell you that nowhere in this world have I seen an army which welcomes so many civilians into its barracks as the Nigerian army. You guys just like to complain and condemn and make allegations. But when there is a violent riot, where do civilians run to: they run to the army barracks. So take it down a little bit.
@Igbi
You are so good. Yes, so very good. In fact, I must admit, you are quite talented, extremely intelligent at being rude 🙂
Anybody who thinks the Nigerian military, after all its operations abroad and in Nigeria, still doesn’t deserve their respect, can just go t the north-east and join the civilian jtf. Survive and then come and tell me about respect. I don’t know if you actually get this, Nigerian soldiers have a job in which they run into “the fire” while us civilians run away from it. Do you actually think there would still be a Nigeria without the sacrifices of the armed forces ?
If anybody sees a military personnel misbehave, then all you need to do is report him.
If you see the punishment these guys get when they misbehave, you might hesitate before reporting.
And you have seen them being punished?
http://saharareporters.com/2015/06/13/why-nigeria%E2%80%99s-army-chiefs-nsa-need-go-now-peregrino-brimah
first they tried to get rrid of the service chiefs with fake amnesty reports, now they are using sahara propaganda. These foreigners !!!
The americans want to be able to chose our service chiefs.
Igbi! Nobody disputes the fact that soldiers lay down their lives for us but that’s what they’re trained for! Truth is our “uniformed men” in Nigeria don’t respect civilians and the uniform they wear…Many become above the law and lack decency because of that uniform and the guns they carry! Imagine if every youth in Nigeria had real military training to SF level and everyone have koboko and military belt in their ppocket, who will soldiers find to harass? Why should I be harrased when I wear camo shorts, why will a soldier beat up a father in front of his child for unknowingly splashing water on him while riding his Okada? Even women are not spared! Remember the case of the lady who was beaten up by airforce personnel in Lagos, a security staff in OAU ife was beaten up by airforcemen about 2-3 years ago….imagine what some soldiers we picked up at Ikeja cantonement were saying about how they went to harass and beat up some motorists to make way for their senior officer in a convoy!! You say this because soldiers haven’t humiliated you or anyone you know….who’s suppose to battle insurgents, is it the police? Is it not soldiers? Abegiii….I must confess, before this Boko Haram war, I had zero respect for our security people, I was happy with the Niger Delta militants giving the military a bloody nose back then! Now I’m learning to respect them but it pains me whenever I hear about soldddiers behaving badly like the burning of those BRT buses etc
Look, Nigerian soldiers are not a different race of human beings, they are not foreigners, they are Nigerians. This is the 3rd time I am hearing about that video of the airmen and the lady. And let me repeat myself by telling you that if you see any soldiers misbehaving then report him. He will be severly punished by other soldiers and he might be let go off the service. Now I don’t think it is fair to tell me that I don’t agree with you because none of my relatives has had any problem with soldiers. Indeed should I be mad at the soldiers while they did me no wrong ? Did any soldier actually do anything to you ? If anybody had a problem with a soldier, then please report him and sue. If your son becomes a soldier would you automatically start cursing him and disrespecting him ?
Very recently a tourist couple which were driving across Africa had problems in Nigeria, and it wasn’t the soldiers, neither the police, it was civilians who killed the man, injured the woman and stole their money. In the other countries they had no problems, but once they got to Nigeria one of them got killed and their money stolen. IS it possible that many Nigerians have problems following abiding by the law ? Might that be one of the reasons we resent those who enforce the law and the soldiers who are often sent to help the police ?
It is incredible that we can’t even realize that our attitude towards men in uniform is very problematic. When our people go abroad, they try and replicate that same behaviour, and they get beaten by the locals.
This fellow did you just say you were happy with the ND militants giving the military a bloody nose. Are you aware. The bloody nose meant some personnel were being killed. Please watch what you say.
Yes! I’m aware of what I said!! NIGERIANS died on both sides…
Your reasoning beats me then I guess you preferred they allowed the militants to have a free hand. Won’t be surprised if you prefer the police to allow armed robbers to have a free hand too since they are also Nigerians or BHT since some are also Nigerians. Are you even a Nigerian
Reading from a comment you made a while ago, I understand you are or were a soldier BUT read my comment and understand the context of what I was saying. This has nothing to do with allowing militants or robbers free hand to do whatever they like so don’t be SENSATIONAL! Of course I’m Nigerian! Point is, the uniform you wear and the arms you carry gives you no right to abuse people at the slightest lamest provocation not because people are just criminally minded like IGBI mentioned earlier!! Believe it or not there’s a lot of animosity towards men in uniform, whether you’re a soldier, policeman, airman, naval officer or paramilitary! That people FEAR you because you’re a “Force Man” doesn’t mean they respect you especially when they see some of you mistreat people in public! Because of this fear nobody will cooperate with you, most times, they’ll abandon you when help is needed most! You need to feel the reaction of people whenever they see uniformed men misbehaving whether its a senior officer driving against traffic or junior officers assaulting or beating up people….its animosity all the way! Yes, I mentioned the Niger Delta issue because that was how I felt initially at the time..I had ZERO respect for military men not because I supported the chaos there but that I felt the militants were able to fearlessly face them head on! Now I know better….. Nigerians have died on both sides, that uniform does not make you more Nigerian than those who’ve died
You have issues with generalisation. I am sorry for you.
@Emmanuel, the militants are nothiing more than criminals, this is the attitude I am talking about. It is sad to say it but many Nigerians are criminally minded. And that is why we get lynched abroad. That is why each time drug dealers are being executed abroad, you can guess that half of the drug dealers are Nigerians. You have to understand that soldiering is a job, you son could join the army, your nephew could join the army. Don’t start wishing people evil just because they joined the army, especially when it is the army that keeps shekau’s knife far away from your neck.
IGBI, you whine a lot about people insulting you on this blog when you also do the same!! Majority of Nigerians are criminally minded according to you! Fine, no wahala….The highly trained, highly esteemed uniformed men are also criminally minded too….why should a senior officer drive against traffic, as if its not shameful enough, his sentries abuse and harass people when they are against the law without remorse! Junior officers abuse people at the slightest sometimes “lamest” excuse! If people who should be respected by virtue of that uniform behave in such a manner why should you be respected? RESPECT is key here! People may fear you but without respect, you’re a sitting Duck!! This has nothing to do with wishing others bad but reminding the men in uniform that that uniform and arms they carry gives them no right to abuse, harass and bully civilians! Like I said before, if all Nigerians were well trained like the military to SF level, they will think twice before bullying anyone! I mentioned the Niger Delta issue because that was what I felt at that time, I didn’t like our militarymen for anything and I had no interest in the Nigerian military till this Bokoharam war escalated…..Now I know better and I’m beginning to respect them!! The fight against BokoHaram has revealed a lot about Nigeria and I hope we learn to respect each other especially the relationships between uniformed men and civilians
@Emmanuel, I never said majority. I said many. And no, soldiers and policement are not particularly criminally minded. As I keep saying, if you see one soldier misbehave then report him. The same with the police.
Mr Emmanuel, I have a lot of respect for you and I think you are being sincere. But please understand that our armed forces are the result of our collective efforts. It is our sons, our fathers, our uncles and our sisters, mothers and brothers serving in that uniform. So please if you have any feeling that any fellow disrespected the uniform then report him and help us make the armed forces as good as possible. I admire your courrage at saying things the way you feel. But please understand that you also have a responsability in the wanted improvement of our armed forces. In a few words, the armed forces and the police belong to us. We also rely on them to get rid of the chaos and to protect us. Let us all join hands and help make them the best. We all have a role to play. Thank you.
But let us remain fair to the soldiers and policemen who keep giving their life so that we can live. Let us protect our armed forces. Let us encourage our armed forces. Let us show the world that we are all potential elements of our armed forces. Let us contribute for good. Let us not tarnish the image of our armed forces just because of a few disgruntled elements whom we should be reporting to the armed forces for disciplinary action. Let us be wiser than our ennemies who want our armed forces destroyed.
Sure! Nobody’s tarnishing the military’s image, I’m not saying these because of Amnesty international’s report, I’m just asking for a review of the relationship between civilians and uniformed men because the people are the greatest assets not even equipment or technology, if you don’t have the trust and respect of people, you’re a sitting duck and you’ll be abandoned! Its a major “let down” when those who re suppose to protect and enforce laws are seen breaking them, even abusing those who are defenceless! Their sacrifices are acknowleged, forget what the media says! Don’t know if you were here in Nigeria before Zaki Biam, did you see that newswatch magazine that showed and described in graphic detail how those 11 soldiers were killed by locals who thought they were fighting with Jukuns….there were images in grayscale showing before and after they were killed, they had their hand tied at their backs and you could see fear and hopelessness in the face of the soldier captured on camera…the image with with them killed showed a man pulling at a dead soldier’s severed stomach and another with a smashed face in the background! The airmen who were beheaded alive by BokoHaram, the 6 soldiers in Jos whose eyes and tongues were poked out, then beheaded to name a few…..Also a colleague of mine who worked with Julius Berger in Delta during the time of the Niger delta crisis described an encounter with Special forces units in the JTF who engaged militants. They gave notice of when they were going to attack! As they were approaching in 2 speedboats, jtf snipers were already positioned on high cranes ,all the militants were killed by clean headshots….another incident he witnessed was a beatdown of some Germans who disrespected some disguised jtf members in a bar in PH! Another colleague of mine who’s an Architect and civilian designed the IGIRIGI APC with NAEAE in 2012….so its not about image bashing the military, there are many out there who want to work with the military! A high level consultant in charge of drone technology for the US military is a Nigerian, did you know that?
@Igbi, the problem is, our men in uniform have a very bad reputation, or have you forgotten that not too long ago Nigeria had a military dictatorship for a very long time? Or have you not seen soldiers molest people on the street by physically assaulting them simply because they didn’t get out of their way while driving on the street. In all your travels, and in France, have you ever seen French soldiers brutalize their own people in broad day light for the simplest mistake?
So that lack of trust and respect people had for the Military is self inflicted by the military, nothing else.
Not long ago there were soldiers who beat up police officers, That ever happened in France or the USA? Because in those countries for example, soldiers have no authority over the civilian population or the police, its the other way round.
But up till this day, there seems to be no clear instructions for these soldiers on how to behave and relate with the public, or perhaps they just chose to ignore such directives. Cops can detain/arrest a military man on the street, but not in Nigeria.
So if you have numerous incidents of soldiers physically assaulting the people, then word will spread and before you know it people will be scared of these soldiers and won’t care much about whatever hell they are going thru, that’s the problem here.
The men in uniform must be called to order, train them well on how to relate with the people, otherwise that bad rep they have in the eyes of the people will remain.
I haven’t finished reading your comment yet, but I can tell you that french soldiers especially the french foreign legionnair love to fight. Don’t come to france and get one angry, he might kill you.
The French Foreign Legion is not regarded as a disciplined force. You can do your research on that. In all the militaries in the developed world, it is only the French foreign legion that will recruit individuals with criminal records, or criminal past. Many people in the French foreign legion wont even make it into the regular French army, nor even the gendarme. So using the French legion as a yardstick is terribly flawed. Besides, the French foreign legion has no authority in France. The French foreign legion, to call it by its real name, is a madhouse for messed up kids who are offered a second chance. In reality, it is not a disciplined force because of the background of the people who comprise the force: ex-cons, and people looking for a second chance, drifters, and individuals almost at the end of their tether.
@chynedoo, you see, earlier I talked about being accurate. And you have got it terribly wrong about the french foreign legion:
1) the french foreign legion is the elite of the french army
2) all you said about the french foreign legion is partly outdated, partly totally false.
3) indeed if you have had problem with the police and the problem is not too serious ( not violent ) then that would not make the FFL throw away your file.
4) The french foreign legion is famous for recruiting foreigners and french and its entrance test is the most difficult in the french military, and that is why most people who manage to pass already have served in foreign armies.
5) the french foreign legion is actually considered one of the best fighting forces in the world
So at the end of the day, its simply a problem of either lack of adequate training or a very weak chain of command, that is soldiers doing whatever they want without anyone being in charge of those bad behaviors or to even call them to order.
And the police have the same problem, now there are good and bad officers every where, and there are certainly great ones in service right there in Nigeria as well, but the few give every other person a bad name.
Not long ago a cop beat up a female smoked fish seller in broad day light simply because she wouldn’t give him free fish to eat. Again, in what developed country will you ever see that? While other cops stood there and watch. Or the female who got stripped and beat up by the police in broad day light simply because she didn’t move her vehicle out of the way fast enough. I mean, do you really have to brutalize a citizen over that?
So we need to talk about the good and bad, not deny the bad, because its there.
I actually know of many occurances of soldiers being arrested by the police, even very famous ones Dimka.
About five years ago, I spoke with an other Nigerian who has a nice job in europe and he told me about what happened to him once, when he traveled back into Nigeria to meet his relatives. Guess what, he had no problems with the soldiers and none with the police, but a friend of his got killed by an armed rubber who politely wanted to “buy” their belongings for 0 naira.
Funny how diasporans eerily are the most patriotic, at least online, Culture shock homesickness or genuine?
People tends to be very critically ptriotic when they are abroad. Maybe this Igbi has to return to Nigeria, when he receives ‘police is your friend’ slap once maybe his brain will reconfigure back to Naija settings.
I know that Nigerian military is trying their best ‘battlewise’, but in Military-civilian relationship they have ZERO. That’s the FACT.
You can’t be in Europe and know more than us in Nigeria.
Lol
@Igbi
Did you really say the French foreign legion is ‘elite’ to the French army? Incredible! Saying French foreign legion is ‘elite’ to the French army is like saying Nigerian civil defence is ‘elite force’ of the Nigerian police, or joke apart, it’s like saying kpof kpof is a sumptuous meal
@chynedoo, you are too arrogant for your own good.
The FFL is the elite of the french army. Why do you talk about what you do not know ? In your earlier statement you didn’t even realise that a part of what you were saying was actualy the french foreign legion of more than 200 years ago. And the rest was totally false. Please someone else with military knowledge take it from here.
Please don’t force me to bring out video-documentaries on the FFL. And stop confusing the FFL of today with the one of about 200 years ago.
Force you? Why would I want to force you to prove nothing?
Oga Beegeagle, please can you educate chynedoo about the FFL ?
@chynedoo, you are fast exposing your ignorance.
@Igbi just do some research on French foreign legion, there is a lot of information out there on about them. If anyone needs educating on this, it is you. I have seen dozens of documentaries on the French foreign legion. I admit the training regimen is tough but that doesn’t make the legion elite nor a disciplined force. It is just a place for people with very few choices or none at all to try to reinvent themselves while being exploited to the maximum by France.
DO you even hear yourself, I am in france. Why are you just so arrogant ? If I want to know anything about the FFL, all I need is to go to a french army recruitment center, and I have done just that. If you are not aware, I actually considered joigning the french military at some point and I documented myself a lot about the french military. And many of my info are from actual french military officers. You have a problem dude. You like to think you know better, but you are very much clueless. I repeat, the elite of the french military is the FFL.
Whether you are in France or Sapele, that doesn’t change the facts about French foreign legion, which is, it is just what it is, a colonial force at the beck and call of France
@Gen Igbi.
Quoting you “DO you even hear yourself, I am in france. Why are you just so arrogant ?”
We still, actually, currently live in NIGERIA and WE witness the atrocities of thugs in uniform, be they Military, Police, Para-military or even council security men. I believe those on ground are in a better position to state the day to day activities in their locale.
Look, 99% of my relatives are in Nigeria, I have an uncle who is a Mobile policeman. My dad was a Nigerian arrmy officer. My grand dad fought in ww2, I have an uncle who retired as a colonel in the army. One of my Dad’s best friends was Lt Nicholas Odeh. My dad still has his former colleagues on his facebook page and those guys are above the rank of colonel now. You referring to soldiers and the police as thugs is a terrible behaviour, and I can tell you that in other countries it is the common Nigerian civilian who is considered a thug, and this attitude towards men in uniform might be the reason. Armed rubbers, drug dealers, bandits blowing up pipelines, thiefs, murderers, all that you don’t consider thugs, but soldiers and police are the thugs to you.
Travel a little bit and see the look you get when they know you are a Nigerian. I went to an interview with a maths professor and on my CV I wrote that I was a Nigerian, that got him worried.
I have had enough of this discussion, I am myself a Nigerian civilian, and so are the family members of Nigerian soldiers. And Nigerian soldiers are recruited among civilians and when they retire they become civilians again. It is time to give respect to those who have chosen a life of sacrifice, rather than calling thel thugs. As i have told you several times, if a soldier misbehaves then report him. Trying to alienate soldiers and policemen is not a normal behaviour. Without those guys it would be anarchy all over. Look at the bad name Nigerians have all over the world, that has nothing to do with the military, nor the police. Rather it has to do with our own attitude. Many of us are so criminaly minded that to them the criminals are the guys eforcing the law and the soldiers who often give help enforce the law.
eforcing:=enforcing
Check your facts first sir…..https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=French_Foreign_Legion
Oga chynedoo, the French Foreign Legion is an elite force. The argument that they aren’t shouldn’t even arise.
They are comparable to the British SAS. If we were a French speaking country, we would most likely know them ahead of the SAS. They are badarse special forces (excuse my Latin).
French foreign legion is nothing near being an elite force
How do you even compare the French legion to the SAS? It is like saying every unit described in Russia as Spetsnaz is elite given the fact many small compact Russian police and army units tend to be described as Spetsnaz. However, the elite Spetsnaz is the one run by the FSB. In the same way, you cant say regular US Marines are an elite because they are just a normal force but there are small units within the marine corps that have special skillsets that regular Marines don’t have or any other US force for that matter. That’s when you start using ‘elite’ for a force. Having a tough training regimen doesn’t make a force ‘elite’ per se. A force is elite if the doctrine and the skillsets acquired by soldiers are so advanced and specialised beyond the capabilities of an average soldier. The information out there on the French foreign legion is widely accessible. Just a few hours research will convince you French foreign legion is nothing near the word ‘elite’
chynedoo, you really like arguing sha! Even when you are so visibly wrong.
Lets stick to the argument and leave eave Spesnaz, US Marines out.
The French Foreign Legion is an elite force and they describe themselves using the word “elite.” Just like everyone else does. In all military forums, propaganda videos etc, they are described as elite.
The French Foreign Legion are the commandos France sends into the toughest of tough battles.
Maybe there is a brand new, esoteric, yet unknown definition of elite force. I am always willing to learn.
It is something of a disgrace that the discussion about civilian-military relations was galvanised by Amnesty Internationals prejudiced report, which is a direct assault on our national sovereignty.
This outcome is only possible because, there is a widespread uncertainty amongst Nigerians about their identity (for example, someone mentioned how he chaired the army on against the Niger Delta militants). This confusion about identity is a profound chasm in the victims psyche that commonly expresses itself as an inferiority complex, hence some might side with Amnesty International or Niger Delta militants against our beloved country and its army.
Please don’t get me wrong. Relations between civilians and the army are not what they should be, but it is not just civilian-military relations, it is relations across the full spectrum of our society. It is not unusual for a well off person to get out of his car to deliver a mind altering slap to a poor man; right in front of the babe the poor man is posing for, then declare; “do you know who I am? I will jail your family!” We are not talking about soldiers here, just behaviour that is common to the majority of us. So why single out the army or police?
We will not get rid of this problem until we fix the architecture of the Nigerian state. Right now, our identity is a soulless thing that is governed by little more than how much of the rent money our individual states can get from oil.
There is no creed binding citizen and state, no creed defining the responsibility of the state to the citizen, nothing defining a citizen and their responsibilities. Further, there is nothing binding Nigeria’s numerous cultures as a resource for national pride, growth and completion. Nothing in our patchwork federalism defines value of the individual, indeed there is even an “anti-rape” bill that seeks to make 11 years the age of consent for girls.
The end result is a nation of floating people who value little outside their immediate orbit. There is a void where a rich identity should, violence, chaos and corruption fill it.
The current Nigerian constitution is a burden to the citizen and a security risk to the nation. THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM.
What I expect us to do as proud Nigerians, is to first kill the Amnesty International report which is a direct assault on our national sovereignty, then we can raise a much wider discussion on our national architecture within which societal relations can be properly defined.
Pointing a single aspect of society as bad, instead of the entire edifice that stands on one crooked oily leg, is either laziness or insincerity – both are dangerous.
We will lose everything about our beautiful country if we continue kicking the ball up the road, taking short cuts, pointing fingers, blaming the police, blaming the army etc. Here is a short poem that succinctly summarises the attitude of the average Nigerian to our national problem:
For want of a nail the shoe was lost.
For want of a shoe the horse was lost.
For want of a horse the rider was lost.
For want of a rider the message was lost.
For want of a message the battle was lost.
For want of a battle the kingdom was lost.
And all for the want of a horseshoe nail.
This is very GOOD. You have pointed at the genesis of the problem. A lack of CREED.
Why single out the army or the police? That’s a joke right?
The army and the police are supposed to be well disciplined and have rules they must follow, that’s why they have authority to perform certain responsibilities, that’s why they have guns and power to arrest and detain, don’t ever compare the behavior of the police with the civilians they are supposed to serve.
They are supposed to be above whatever nonsense a civilian might do.
If you have a police force full of irresponsible men and women, then say , “Well its okay, because the people are irresponsible as well” .That’s not a good argument.
Cops and soldiers are supposed to lead by example, and obey the law, you can not be an enforcer of our laws and have zero respect for it, that makes no sense.
apt straight foward precise and complete, we lack a general understanding of who we are and what we stand for.From the basics of our education Nigerian kid are placed on autopilot till they become adults,they are simply taught that nigeria is a jungle with no rules(forgive me for saying this).the state and its structures are a distant philosophy to their ears.money,riches,etc etc prevade their mind by hook or crook ..the only time you feel a sense of being nigerian is when there is a national tragedy or the national football teams are playing every other day we deny the existence of our dear nation.some times i look at the defense of stanlingrad now volvograd and ask myself if nigeria were to be invaded can we make sacrifices and fight for our nation or do we just find the nearest exit.people create embers of conflict in the nation with personal ambition topmost on their mind.ask a typical nigerian.define your Nigeria and you will get sterotype answers.
For any creed to work, we must correct the root of our mistakes our beginning for our kids,the social rules and code of conduct must be made a compulsory subject up until SSCE..we must imbibe the virtues of being a proud nigeria overcoming the obstacles bedeviling us rather than those living in a cage looking for the nxt avaliable traffic position to libya then europe(it actually irks me)
as for the military am going to be sincere with every one,the military was always bulit to alienate the civilian population,they were created to put civilians in check rather than defend the nation,however along the line,independence came,and we struggled to change our identity.the civil war came and the military seemed to graps it roles as a defender as it began to relate well with its occupied and free civilians in their control
Military rule came ,then we lost it, the rule of supremacy or the bloody civilian mantra became the new order.as we evolved into the new civilian dispensation again the military struggled to revive its relationship with the civilian population,the fact remains that one basic component for which the military can use to improve its CIVIL-military relationship has to imbed itself in activities that will put them in contact with the civilian population on a constant basis and on a social scale,My dad have always told me of stories of his days at 81 division Lagos in the good old days as a 2nd lieutenant in the early 80s of the consistent roadworks and street sanitation they embarked on with gusto and how civilian came out to join them in these community services,today he would bitterly remind me of how NA has lost that culture,
reviving the military’s culture of servitude on a weekly if not daily basis will turn even the most hard hearted NCO or CO to see things in a different light,the fact that people do not see the army serve the general public gives would be aspirants the feel of invisibility when in uniform hence the perception that they will be demi Gods when they eventually get in. the military should go back to the basic ideals of social servitude on a consistent basis and not a ceremonial basis..
re-orientation is a gradual process both the civilian and military population need to review their perceptions of each other.
one wonders why Gen olukolade had trouble finding his feet early on in this campaign.the Military should realize that they are the fabric that hold decenting views together and so must strive to improve relationship between itself and the civil population..
National re-orientation is the key. if Nigeria’s can believe a doctored report from AI hook line and sinker then what will happen if we engage let say Niger or chad in combat,they will sell us off.w must mend this issue especially with the new challenges at our door steps. in a state of animosity a cage challenger profits
on the issues of fatigues or camos i believe it is cosmetic,it wont solve ziltch but still i wonder why Defense HQ can not shell out a good sum and gone on the airways with a dedicated advert indicating how to identify real camos for the tri service branches and how to identify fake one just as the police gave clues on how to identify fake police officers using their serial numbers.
if we strive to become a better nation , we must to learn to move from our comfort zones and make uncomfortable decisions
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/06/look-beyond-g7-foreign-aid-experts-tell-buhari/
Kai Oga Kola Adekola I salute am for U wallai.
ko ba daidai ba daidai ne…
http://voicesforpublictransit.org/blog.aspx
Sorry first link was wrong – Kenya’s Uhuru Kenyatta urges Africa to give up aid
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33108716
@ Capt Tobias, d Kenyan president is right on many fronts. Aid acts like shackles eventually. Just holds u down stops you from pushing urself
We have not had any news out of Sambisa in a while, has the NA taken d entire forest or what? Progress reports hv literallly dried out. I hope its nt back to the days of extreme secrecy. The Hit and run tactics of BH hv become worrying and the NA proly cant respond in tym cos news gets out when its too late. Anyone with news on Sambisa shld pls inform us
Sudan’s Bashir banned from leaving S.Africa until arrest ruling
http://news.yahoo.com/international-court-calls-africa-arrest-sudan-president-072203661.html
This is not wise at all
This man should head for the Sudanese embassy immediately and stay put inside there until the long drawn out legal tangle plays itself out.
South Africa, last i remembered was a sovereign country and can decide to undertake any actions it so deems fit, albeit considering the benefits and repercussions of such actions. All we can do as Africans is to continue to encourage Nations to take actions in their national interest, but ultimately in Africa’s interest. 🙂 South Africa: DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
Sir Kay. I respect you hustle sir.
it is a waste of time, the ICC cannot force an country to arrest anybody, they can only bring it to your notice that you have the obligation to do so, more-so there is no penalty for not heeding to the advise-you will only be reported to UN. SA government already knows. The government will appeal the local court order and the summit will have finished before then-bear in mind that immunity to all attendees is built into AU summit protocol ( used to be-don’t think it as been revised).
Bashir has done some really bad things. I think he has taken the place of Gaddafi in terms of fuelling conflicts across Africa, tunnelling arms to groups that cause trouble around West and Central Africa. In Sudan, he midwifed (and still does) the mindless killing of anyone who opposed him, he financed Janjaweed, and has a hand in the current conflict among South Sudanese forces. There are also insinuations Boko Haram has received some form of help from Sudan, arms and training. In all fairness, Bashir deserves to be tried by a competent court. The ICC, if one is honest, is simply a political paw of some world powers to hunt down individuals accused of war crimes from smaller, less developed countries without extending the same measures to all countries. While I do not condone what Bashir has done, but if Bashir must go to ICC, why has same ICC refused to issue arrest warrants for Tony Blair and George Bush? Why has no single American general, and a list of CIA director generals who oversaw the US rendition of suspects from 1995 onwards? Surely Bashir has done terrible things just like Blair and Bush. Why issue arrest warrant for one war criminal but not the others?
Good open convo on Nigerian society and relationship between civvies and military, also good point about the relationship between civvies generally and the lack of a national creed.
Part of what I believe is the issue here is the militarization of the civilian psyche, the might is right mentality has diffused into the larger society from military leadership (or was already present and expressed itself in coups).
Nonetheless I have mentioned it on this blog before, the relationship between civvies and the armed forces has to change, or else the hearts and minds will not be won. We can argue about whats patriotic and AI aside, the relationship must change, BRT bus incident, Naval incident, I can sit here and regale you of at least 3 instances where I encountered soldiers on the streets of Lagos (enlisted men not officers). In which they assaulted a friend or threatened violence on my person (once with a knife), and it was not because I was rude or truculent, it seemed to just be a power trip for them.
This is the opportunity to get this out there, the AI issue is separate and frankly should be investigated and at least a report generated, typically in other countries there is little to no censure (see My Lai, Abu Ghraib and reports of atrocities by Special Forces agents in Afghanistan) But the process is followed.
Eventually clear ROE need to be stated and the men held responsible for following.
You hit the nail on the head. As you rightly pointed out, there is a militarization of our national psyche. Might is right thus becomes a national creed, a pattern of relationship between those in authority and those on the fringe, this pattern is also visible in the conduct of daily life in Nigeria, within families, extended social networks, semi formal and formal social groups. The source of this problem, an ingrained psyche of violence, is the family which is one of the most important social units in any society. So whatever is wrong within the larger social grouping in Nigeria, such as might is right, should be traced back to the family unit. Parenting in Nigeria is all about might, power, control and very little choice for the little voices in the house. I don’t know if there are any psychologists and sociologists on this blog they might offer better expert insight on the issue.
If any soldier misbehaves, all you have to do is report him, disciplinary action will be taken.
I don’t really understand the urge to not report a soldier who misbehaved only to go and post it on a blog that a soldier did misbehave. Why don’t we hear about your report to the military or the police about what happened ? Why don’t I hear about how you sued the guy who misbehaved ? If you are serious about helping the army improve then why don’t you report the bad apples ?
Have you ever walked the streets of Lagos and gotten into an altercation? Conflict resolution with armed forces personnell does not involve sharing of names, units and serial numbers. Believe me if I knew who the soldiers were and where they were barracked , it would have been addressed in every means legal and up to battalion disciplinary level. Na naija, every one on this blog has armed forces bona fides, from our peers to peers of our parents, you know when I stopped getting bothered, when my family worked our of Ikeja cantonment and posted military stickers on every single damn vehicle we own. Don’t let’s act like you can get extorted in a road corner by a man fatigues and have legal recourse, that soldier is a bloody armed robber in a uniform. He knows it, you know it, and everyone standing around you knows it.
Look people, there are also a lot of criminals imperonating soldiers. So try to not let them fool you.
Man what are you talking about lol.
I’ve seen a truck load of soldiers in Akure who left their barracks to whip and molest people at a gas station, i guess those weren’t real soldiers huh?
Ever asked yourself how that many soldiers could leave their barrack and head out to fight civilians? Who gave them the permission to leave that barrack? Where is their chain of command and who is in charge of such men? Because if you ask me, no one seems to be in charge, otherwise that wouldn’t have happened.
and that’s just one example. They aren’t perfect, let’s not act as if they are, they need more training and especially how to deal with civilians.
You will never get the support of the people if their opinion of you is that of a mindless brute. That’s why they need to do more.
Hell they can organize a simple food drive, feed the hungry, the homeless, drop off water to motherless homes. These little things will make the people actually like and trust the military and police.
did you report it ?
I also hear about the Nigerian military providing free medical care.
Well, that’s more like it, if they engage in community services more and more, then people will start seeing them as one of them and not some aliens.
Did i report what. Were they ghost? Or they jumped the fence and left their barracks unnoticed? dude telling me if i report it, to who? I remember when my bro was taken away from his high school by Soldiers, at the order of one of his friend’s father.
The friend stole his dad’s money and spent it with his friends, my bro included, the father responded by flooding the school with soldiers and took away all his son’s friends, my bro included.
He was illegally detained, by the time my dad got to the barrack, my brother was hung upside down from the ceiling, and we are talking about a teenager here.
But unfortunately for the father, he had no idea he just messed with the wrong person, my dad had him arrested immediately. No joke. So ask yourself, why did bunch of soldiers invade a secondary school illegally early in the morning and kidnapped bunch of teenagers all because some idiot told them to? Where were those in charge of those soldiers, where was the rule of law? So when i talked about a break down of command, that shit is real.
And i repeat, not all soldiers are bad, as i said before, the bad give the good ones a bad name and that’s why people never truly appreciate the sacrifices these soldiers are making.
And if the media will constantly report on their heroism, that will also help sway public opinion.
So when people like myself and others talk about bad behaviors within the military, never question it, we experienced this, not some made up story
I should report it and then disappear, right? No thank you. Maybe in the future when i see concrete steps being taken, the big men within their ranks arrested for bad behavior, you know, true accountability, then i might report something, until then, no
This sentence makes me question your entire claim “So when people like myself and others talk about bad behaviors within the military, never question it,”
And also I find it cowardly to not report the claimed bad behaviour when it happened, and then go and blabb about it online. Now instead of the few alledged bad apples getting their punishment, you have extended the punishment to the entire military and country by extension. How do you expect any action to be taken if you are too afraid to report misbehaviour ?
As a citizen, you have the responsability to report misconduct when you see one. How do you expect to make the army better if you refuse to report the bad apples ? Instead you are going online writing about stories, and tarnishing the name of the entire institution, while you could have reported very easilly. Instead you chose to be fearful and not to report ! Now instead of the few bad apples getting punishment, it is the entire military which is getting its name tarnished. This doesn’t give a good account of your claimed will to make the military better.
@Igbi, Doubt my claim? Its not a claim, i was there, and if you can read, i never said all men in uniform are bad. You do seem to like argument, Read my comments.
Cowardly to not report it? You must truly live in fantasy land dude.
And all might depend on location ( my opinion), that is, you might find out that soldiers in Lagos or Abuja are more disciplined and put on a shorter leash than those in smaller places like Akure for example.
So you might report something in Lagos and Abuja and all will be fine, but in smaller cities with little oversight, you might just be risking your life.
I was born and raised there, don’t act like you see every thing or know it all.
Do you know how many prisoners that has disappeared from our prisons in Akure without a trace? In your fantasy world where no officer do wrong, this must be a lie.
I say it again, not all are bad. But never question other people’s experience or what they’ve witnessed, its a simple common sense, i was there, you weren’t. So who are you to tell me you doubt my claim? Unreal.
You are a guy who thinks every thing is perfect, you are either delusional or you live in a box, no offense.
Report it, smh.
And i did not say this happened yesterday. I mentioned earlier the legacy of military rule and how people don’t have full trust in them yet, which was why i suggested more community interaction.
But, not going to engage in endless discussion with you, you thrive on that, so will leave it alone.
No reporting bad behaviour doesn’t constitute a risk to your life. If you see bad behaviour, then report it, if any soldier is involved, he will be punished. But if you don’t report it, then I don’t understand what you are complaining about. Even my mother wasn’t afraid to report bad behaviour when she was a little girl, just man up and do your civic duty.
I think you’ve been away from home for too long. Go back there and face reality.
And stop your report it stance. Report to who? Police? What a joke, like they have the power to go to the barack to arrest soldiers. The police will be the 1st to tell you to get lost. Stop comparing our institutions to that of developed countries, i think that’s why you think the way you do. Ours need lots of work that might take decades to get right. Enjoy your day
I have had great interaction with the military, around 2000s at idi Araba there was significant conflict between the northern cattle traders settlement and some tribal militias, it escalated to arson lynching burnings and home invasions in the area.
A jtf cohort was deployed there and ran patrols, kept the peace and ensured curfews were kept. There was a day me and some friends trekked from mushin to surulere through idi araba and got into a communication snafu that escalated into tensions. Up popped a small squad of lightly armed infantrymen in the shirts who defused the situation and even walked with us for several blocks, those dudes were cool dudes. They were champions and peace keepers/enforcers.
Well there you go, not all soldiers are crazies lol. So stories like yours is what will change people’s minds. That is, we need to hear more of it and less of the bad
Mugabe Blasts Nigeria At AU Summit For “Betraying” Africa
Johannesburg – Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe blasted South Africa and Nigeria at the African Union summit this weekend, saying Africa would never agree to them getting permanent seats on the UN Security Council.
This was because they had both voted for UN Security Council Resolution 1973 in 2011, which authorized military action against the regime of Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.
They had betrayed the continent which could never trust them, sources reported him as saying.
Mugabe intervened in a meeting of the so-called “Committee of 10” at the summit on Saturday which was discussing possible amendments to the “Ezulwini Consensus” which stated Africa’s position on reform of the UN Security Council.
The 2005 Ezulwini Consensus was that Africa should demand at least two permanent and five non-permanent seats on the council as part of the protracted, wider reform to make it more representative of the world.
The consensus also demanded that the two permanent seats should come with the same veto powers as were enjoyed by the five current permanent members, the US, UK, China, Russia and France.
This demand for vetoes had effectively stymied Africa’s chances of reforming the council. And so the South African government was calling for Africa to adopt a more flexible approach by dropping the veto demand.
This was what the so-called G4 group of nations – Germany, Japan, India and Brazil – who were also seeking permanent seats on the council had done, as a tactical manoeuvre to try to diminish resistance to their bid.
Last year South African President Jacob Zuma said: “Africa needs to compromise – not reiterate fixed positions as it has done for the past nine years.”
And he organized a retreat of African Foreign Ministers in February 2014 to review the Ezulwini Consensus.
South Africa also intended to raise it in the Committee of 10 meeting here on Saturday. The Committee of 10 was appointed by the AU many years ago to pursue the UN Security Council reform.
But one regional official who was in the meeting said he believed that Mugabe’s attack on South Africa and Nigeria had seriously damaged South Africa’s case for reviewing the Ezulwini Consensus.
The official said Mugabe had not mentioned the two countries by name.
But it was clear to all in the room who he was referring to as he referred to African governments who had been on the UN Security Council when Resolution 1973 on Libya was adopted in 2011.
South Africa and Nigeria were both on the council at the time, occupying two of the ten, non-permanent, two-year seats. South Africa’s vote for Resolution 1973 was highly controversial even within South Africa.
But the South African government justified it on the grounds that a foreign military intervention was necessary to prevent Gaddafi’s forces slaughtering his opponents in their Benghazi stronghold, as he threatened to do.
Pretoria later condemned the Nato-led military coalition for going beyond the mandate which was to protect civilians, by helping rebels overthrow Gaddafi.
But South Africa suspects that countries like Zimbabwe are avoiding review of the Ezulwini Consensus and insisting on a hardline, maximalist position on UN Security Council reform because they don’t want bigger African countries like South Africa and Nigeria to get permanent seats on the council.
G4’s plan of action is that, along with the G4 nations 2 African nations be included in the expanded Security Council (SC).
India is pushing that this year being 70th year of establishment if UN, the reform process of UNSC should kick start from this year.
Although, I believe there is slim chance of this happening this year, still it would be good to know who the two representatives of Africa are by name.
As, your post suggests, there is considerable difference among AU members over this.
But, still Africa’s approach towards UNSC reform is more structured than others.
All G4 members face opposition from their regions but in Africa the two members selected through deliberation wouldn’t face that.
But, the deliberation it seems is taking a lot of time.
But, my suggestion would be to do that quickly, so that the picture gets clear who the nations are and a concentrated effort can be done towards the reform of UNSC.
Also, it isn’t clear, what is the view of AU towards G4. Whether they want to join ranks or have a separate approach.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185035-buhari-orders-release-of-n4-billion-to-fight-boko-haram.html
Good response by peccavi to ai. In summary, we can’t ignore the allegations, has to be addressed. They may be building an icc case against our officers.
A thoroughly professional and offensive reply to AI accusations without needlessly emoting the issues. These guys have a clear anti-middle power, anti nigerian army agenda but it is best to fight them in the world of ideas and information whilst doing corresponding in house cleaning within our armed forces at the same time. It is also important to TRIP them offensively with facts about their non existent reporting of human rights abuses in the middle east, Afghanistan, Iraq and Israel by western vassal nations. The erosion in value they are causing to the organization by being used as a tool by western intelligence agencies with connivance of their leaders and clear statistics that human rights abuses and political repression have actually blossomed in the last ten years that they have been making the most noise targeting effects within the third world whilst ignoring the obvious causative agents in first world policies.
People tends to be very critically ptriotic when they are abroad. Maybe this Igbi has to return to Nigeria, when he receives ‘police is your friend’ slap once maybe his brain will reconfigure back to Naija settings.
I know that Nigerian military is trying their best ‘battlewise’, but in Military-civilian relationship they have ZERO. That’s the FACT.
You can’t be in Europe and know more than us in Nigeria.
If a policeman slapped you and you didn’t report it and you didn’t sue, then you deserve an other slap.
Thank you ooo oga. Imagine the argument the guy was making. And he kept talking about report it. You gonna report cops to fellow cops, in naija and you expect them to do what? Forward it to the commissioner or who? Police chief? Lol. Reality my friend. Naija is a different environment.
Anyways, morning all.
Oga Trigger. I respect your hustle
Your categorical statements fly in the face of reality
“but in Military-civilian relationship they have ZERO. That’s the FACT.”
This is certainly not a fact but a mere conjecture, summoned up to buttress a rigid line of reasoning. And all this talk about “Hard slap and military slap” I think people have just listened to so many I-GO-DIE jokes, because i doubt 0.01 % of military personnel go about slapping people in the face just to make a point. Some Nigerians just take delight in tarnishing whats theirs, there’s no law against it, you can say what you need to say, but when you generalize about the military based on a personal experience that’s where we err, because when humans are driven purely by emotions, they tend to throw majestic reason out the window.
@mcchegz, you have a point, but also, as i mentioned before, we Nigerians had formed our opinion about the military during their reign in power, and fact is, their reputation back then was awful, agreed its a long time ago, Ask yourself why people generally run when they see large number of troops in their locale? They are our troops, right? Yet we run, haha, i wonder why, its the reputation. So that mentality is still there among some soldiers that they can do whatever they want without consequence, so it will take more time for things to be properly structured.
I shared my own experience with you all because someone claimed we have the perfect military and they can do no wrong. That’s simply why i shared my own experience, so people will stop living in fantasy.
And there is nothing wrong with criticizing one’s country, if every one shut up, then those at the top will assume everything is alright and nothing will change.
Hiding our flaws is the wrong path to getting things right.
And i also said it a million times, There are awesome officers in Nigeria, but like everything in life, the few bad ones give the entire institution a bad name.
Sir Kay. I respect your hustle sir
“Ask yourself why people generally run when they see large number of troops in their locale?”
Here we go again with the overt generalizations, when you say people, you mean all Nigerians? and when you say locale, you mean, all of the territorial Nigerian soil? and humans truly behave this way? even when they do, is it all the time as to warrant this statement
“Ask yourself why people generally run when they see large number of troops in their locale?”
See, this is what we mean, when we say emotions cloud judgment, in fact most of the time it impairs reasoning; to the best of my knowledge no one ever said Nigeria is perfect in anyway, but to conclude and pass a guilty verdict based on nothing but perception is radical; yes we all know perception is one thing, but that’s different from reality, Some people perceive Africa as a country, doesn’t make it so.
Yes Oga, there’s nothing wrong with criticizing, but as homo-sapiens we have to try to be circumspect in our criticism lest we seem no better than apes who sling mud at a particular direction without aim. That’s why we need names, and identification so as to either report or publicly shame, we cannot aim to achieve any progress if we keep on with the mantra of “the military is corrupt, the military is unprofessional” there are 100’s of thousands of personnel in the security services, but i totally agree with this statement though
“And i also said it a million times, There are awesome officers in Nigeria, but like everything in life, the few bad ones give the entire institution a bad name.”
I go further to assert that majority of our security personnel do their jobs to the best of their ability, why don’t we fish out the crooked ones
The problem is that he has this image of perfect Nigeria in his head and he don’t want to let go. You can’t be in abroad and want to be the local champion in Nigeria. We in Nigeria knows where the shoe hurts and we’ve made our position known. Which is the REAL fact. You cant just wish for a perfect Nigeria without working for it.
CHAD: MANY KILLED IN SUSPECTED BOKO HARAM TWIN ATTACKS ON N’DJAMENA POLICE
Ludovica Iaccino
By Ludovica Iaccino June 15, 2015 12:55 BST
Many people are reported to have been killed in twin suicide attacks outside the police headquarters and academy in N’Djamena, the capital of Chad.
Who are Nigeria’s Boko Haram terrorists?
Boko Haram (recently renamed Iswap) fights against Western influence in Nigeria and aims to impose its version of Sharia law on the country. The group declared an Islamic caliphate in Gwoza, along the Cameroon border, in August 2014.
Boko Haram has raided several cities in the north of the country in a bid to take control of more land.
Three states − Adamawa, Borno and Yobe − have been under a state of emergency since May 2013, due to Boko Haram’s attacks.
The group has killed at least 2,600 people since the beginning of 2015. More than 180 have been killed since the beginning of June.
The government convened an emergency meeting following the blasts, which are believed to be the first of this kind to ever occur in the capital.
It is not clear how many people were killed in the blasts. According to AP, there have been 10 casualties, while unconfirmed reports on Twitter allege some 30 people died in the attacks.
No group has claimed responsibility for the attack, but suspicions are likely to fall on Nigeria-based terror group Boko Haram, which attacked a village in Chad last February, killing dozens of people.
France condemned the attacks, with the foreign ministry saying the country “stands alongside Chad and its partners in the fight against terrorism”.
Chad is part of a five-country coalition — together with Nigeria, Niger, Cameroon and Benin — aimed at strengthening efforts to stop Boko Haram’s deadly insurgency in north-eastern Nigeria.
N’Djamena is the headquarters of the regional force.
According to the N’Djamena Post, Boko Haram openly criticised the country for sending troops to Nigeria and warned attacks will be carried out following the deployment.
The group is believed to have issued a statement issued both in English and Arabic in February, in which it said: “So we are ready to move our battles from Niger to the lands of Chad even if that costs us so much.”
According to the SITE Intelligence Group, the group’s leader Abubakar Shekau said referring to the deployment: “You sent 7,000 of your soldiers. Why didn’t you send seven million? This is few… 7,000? By Allah, it is small. We can capture them in an attempt or two.”
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/chad-many-killed-suspected-boko-haram-twin-attacks-ndjamena-police-1506189
So what are we buying exactly? . Are we buying nothing?
Pakistan wins first jet order at Paris Air Show: spokesman
Pakistan has won the first order for its JF-17 Thunder jet fighters, an air force spokesman said Monday, a long-held goal for the nation which wants to boost its military exports.
http://news.yahoo.com/pakistan-wins-first-jet-order-paris-air-show-000305121.html
Relax, not us lol
😀 😀
i hope given the rumours for jf 17 sales that have been flying about for the last 5 years
somebody actually buys it.
it will be then possible to get a clear idea of the capabilities of jf 17 from being operated in the hands of the new owner.
nothing new about the afore said asian buyer.
the asian country buying it is 99% chance : myanmer and that too directly from china,the chinese have a soft loan arrangement with them to acquire the the jf 17.
they have been in talks for the past 1-2 years or so.
maybe the latest indian military ops into myanmer made the chinese rethink and clear the deal to boost their military cooperation with the burmese.
So what are we buying exactly? . Are we buying nothing?
@Oga James, the thing taya me no be small. by mouth we seem to have bought various fixed wing assets. meanwhile other less endowed, less envied and less threatened nations are snapping up potent assets in great deals.
@all
the report about jf 17 sales are not clear, at best it is ambigous.
it qoutes a pakistani representative at the paris air show.
who refused to name the country buying it,mentioning only that it was a asian country.
i would rather take it with a pinch of salt unless the country buying it issues a statement.
now list of countries which were rumoured to buy jf 17 extend from egypt to bulgaria to aizerbizan to sri lanka to bangladesh to myanmer to latin american countries to african countries to middle east countries.
thats a big list.
and mark my words any country buying jf17 ie if they buy it, will enter into a G to G deal with the chinese because china is in a position to sweeten the deal with soft loans etc.
this is the main reason in the first place a LOW FINANCIAL BUDGET.
wonder why did the egyptians got the rafales instead of jf 17 ?
because the french gave them soft loans and because rafale is way better than jf 17.
this trend will pick up with euro fighter,gripen,su 30,su 35 etc
infact the gripen deal with brazil also involved a soft loan agreement with sweden.
all aircraft manufacturers are struggling at the moment and their respective govts will back them up with soft loans etc.
and so it is right moment for nigeria for selecting a fighter
if i was the president of nigeria 😀
my choice would be
1.gripen NG (workhorse) 35-55 nos to be bought over a period of 5-7 years.
2.su 30 MKN (customized version of su 30 mki or mkm) 30-45 to be bought over a period of 5-7 years.
3.3 mid air refulling planes
if the jf 17 is preffered then it will replace the gripen NG
Yes. The Grippen is now more likely with all the talk about wish lists
I just get the feeling that the pakistanis are not marketing this JF17 jets optimally.
Wouldn’t it have helped them if they had given out a free examples of the jets to countries undergoing counterinsurgency ops(Nigeria, Egypt etc) or wars to utilize free of charge.
That way the platforms can be show cased in action adequately?
Sudanese dictator snubs South African court and leaves the country
Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has left South Africa, a Sudan minister said on Monday, defying a Pretoria court order for him to remain in the country until it ruled on an application for his arrest.
Bashir, who was attending an African Union summit in South Africa, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) over war crimes and crimes against humanity.
On Sunday, South African judge Hans Fabricius ordered authorities to prevent Bashir, who is in South Africa for an African Union summit, from leaving the country because of an international order for his arrest, human rights activists said.
The judge ordered the South African government to ensure that officials at all border posts enforce the court’s decision, according to Caroline James, a lawyer with the Southern Africa Litigation Centre, a rights group. The court is expected to rule on Monday if al-Bashir should be handed over to the International Criminal Court to face charges of alleged genocide and human rights abuses.
Kamal Ismail, the Sudanese state minister for foreign affairs, told reporters in Khartoum that al-Bashir had received assurances from the South African government prior to his visit that he would be welcome and was expected to return to Sudan on schedule.
The African National Congress, which is South Africa’s ruling party, said the South African government granted immunity “for all (summit) participants as part of the international norms for countries hosting such gathering of the AU or even the United Nations.”
Even before Sunday’s events, the African Union had asked the International Criminal Court to stop proceedings against sitting presidents and said it will not compel any member states to arrest a leader on behalf of the court.
HAHAHAHAHA, Paper Tiger Judge Hans, you no get fed-govt backing, you dey denge 🙂
http://www.businessinsider.com/sudan-president-detained-may-be-charged-with-genocide-2015-6
Sudanese dictator snubs South African court and leaves the country
hehehehehehehehehe
Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir has left South Africa, a Sudan minister said on Monday, defying a Pretoria court order for him to remain in the country until it ruled on an application for his arrest.
Bashir, who was attending an African Union summit in South Africa, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court (ICC) over war crimes and crimes against humanity.
On Sunday, South African judge Hans Fabricius ordered authorities to prevent Bashir, who is in South Africa for an African Union summit, from leaving the country because of an international order for his arrest, human rights activists said.
The judge ordered the South African government to ensure that officials at all border posts enforce the court’s decision, according to Caroline James, a lawyer with the Southern Africa Litigation Centre, a rights group. The court is expected to rule on Monday if al-Bashir should be handed over to the International Criminal Court to face charges of alleged genocide and human rights abuses.
Kamal Ismail, the Sudanese state minister for foreign affairs, told reporters in Khartoum that al-Bashir had received assurances from the South African government prior to his visit that he would be welcome and was expected to return to Sudan on schedule.
The African National Congress, which is South Africa’s ruling party, said the South African government granted immunity “for all (summit) participants as part of the international norms for countries hosting such gathering of the AU or even the United Nations.”
Even before Sunday’s events, the African Union had asked the International Criminal Court to stop proceedings against sitting presidents and said it will not compel any member states to arrest a leader on behalf of the court.
HAHAHAHAHA, Paper Tiger Judge Hans, you no get fed-govt backing, you dey denge 🙂
http://www.businessinsider.com/sudan-president-detained-may-be-charged-with-genocide-2015-6
I was a bit shocked when i heard the ruling of the judge. my immediate reaction was that no country, at least no African country will arrest a serving leader and hand him over for prosecution. I knew he would leave early just like he left Nigeria early last year or so, when there was a clamour for his arrest. If the ICC wants to prosecute dem go grow small grey hair on d matter. The AU almost always stands by its own and are even very slow to criticise, sometimes its a good thing and sometimes its a bad thing. @ MCSHEGZ no mind the judge, e wan flex puny muscles
The AU, just like the EU is an organisation based on the illusory theory that a United Africa will speed up development and trade in a continent of 52 countries, 1 billion people and a collective GDP less than the size of New York. We are just wasting money and resources and becoming more a continent of beggers dependent on aid. Even the AU headquarters was given as a gift from China. We’ve been singing a “United Africa/Intergration” mantra for 50 years with little achievement, it’s time to take a new direction.
“in a continent of 52 countries, 1 billion people and a collective GDP less than the size of New York.” ? Factual suicide Oga,
Sub-Sahara African GDP is > $1,643 trillion
http://data.worldbank.org/region/SSA
That of New York is $1,350 trillion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP
At least make we try use google small na, before humans display such levels of wanton ignorance.
“We’ve been singing a “United Africa/Intergration” mantra for 50 years with little achievement, it’s time to take a new direction.”
What do you suggest sir ?
Slavery, Continuous Plunder, Unending wars on false pretenses?
Oga Oje. I respect your hustle sir.
“in a continent of 52 countries, 1 billion people and a collective GDP less than the size of New York.” ? Factual suicide Oga,
Sub-Sahara African GDP is > $1,643 trillion
data . worldbank . org / region/SSA
That of New York is $1,350 trillion
en.wikipedia.org /wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP
At least make we try use google small na, before humans display such levels of wanton ignorance.
“We’ve been singing a “United Africa/Intergration” mantra for 50 years with little achievement, it’s time to take a new direction.”
What do you suggest sir ?
Slavery, Continuous Plunder, Unending wars on false pretenses?
Oga Oje. I respect your hustle sir.
Oga Adebayo, we cannot “buy” our way to victory, if it’s possible the West would have crushed ISIS by now. You cannot defeat an unconventional enemy with conventional weapons. Even if we buy the F-15 it will be completely useless against ground personnel without massive civilian casualties. The present stock of Nigerian milirary hardware represents a massive “overkill” against an adversory with no Tanks, airforce or Navy.I’ve said it before we need to invest heavily on Counter Intelligence, HUMINT/ELINT capabilities and a charm offensive. For starters to get Amnesty off our back we must find Shekau, find their source of funding, find their arms suppliers and KICK OUT FOREIGN ELEMENTS FROM NIGERIAN SOIL. If we dissolve the MNJTF (which our adversary uses as a front to keep Boko Haram supply chain neat the border open) we shall witness how hard it will be for BOKO HARAM to bounce back from a heavy defeat like they seem to be able to do no matter the heavy casualties in man and material we inflict on themy.
Buhari is to visit Cameroon over boko haram.
Mali purchases 6 Embraer A29 super tucano
http://www.journal-aviation.com/actualites/30125-bourget-2015-le-mali-commande-six-a-29-super-tucano
Abeg how far for 9ja? NAF???
Without meaning any offence i would say that sone Nigerians have shared, chopped and digested the funds earmarked for combat aircraft. The last regime had some funny “business orientated” public servants within it. I won’t put anything past them. We kept shouting ourselves hoarse, quarreling everyday out of the different perspectives that we were expressing our patriotism from but the “rent seeking antedullivians” in government were probably even extremely scared of the love of country they saw behind the words. The most expensive figures we threw around for the most expensive jets was $1bn for a squadron, the last regime was paying that every fortnight (bypassing council meetings for approval) for fuel importation.
BTW These Tucanos also do netcentric and deploy in a faster way the capabilities we have decided to carry components of on helicopters and slower Beechcraft platforms .
http://www.nta.ng/2015/06/15/attack-by-boko-haram-on-yobe-cost-the-terrorists-lots-of-lives-and-weapons/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/23-killed-101-wounded-in-suicide-bombings-on-chad-police/
http://www.today.ng/news/u-s-vows-to-work-with-buhari-to-defeat-bharam-donates-5bn-to-mnjtf/
That is a whole lot of Money.
Things just got very interesting
I wonder what price we are paying for this sudden and unusual “generosity” from a country which has spent most of its time undermining our efforts against bht and telling the world it was helping us.
We are losing our pride as a so eyeing country.
Possible thread-offs:
-US may request Nigeria to cease its opposition to US African command expansion
-Possible building of a permanent US base on the Gulf of Guinea
-Possible request from US for Nigeria to address American concerns about China’s growing strategic relationship with Nigeria
-Request by the American government for Nigeria to allow American armed drones to patrol the NE and possibly engage BH
But then $5 billion would be too small for all these, wont it?
This is major bucks. Almost unbelievable.. Why the sudden love and affection?. What interests have they identified in the region?. Let them release all blocked weapon purchase requests now that the man they dont like has left office .
That is bribe money. When it is all done, the same US will turn around and scream about “corrupt Africa.”
Isn’t it funny they can be claiming to be giving MNJTF $5billion when they haven’t given Ukraine a dime? When its too good to be true, know its because its poison.
Its wise up time.
Dear Ogas, This amount ( $Bs) is what is stolen during fuel deals in a couple of months, don’t fall for it. they just increased the size of the bait, 70% of this amount is used to service their own country, by giving contracts to friendlies ( Payback to companies that supported during the Donors election) at donor countries, which eventual directly or indirectly end up in lobbyists pocket. 20% to take care of the small westerners/troops ( Hotels, Accommodation, air conditioned rides – preferable SUVs, rotation tickets, phones, special allowances, expatriate life style, girls and night clubs included, etc this will keep their western boys happy and elite) going on this Safaris to supervise the Africans (whom probably has see more action than them), They would teach the most important techniques of increasing the speed of his trigger finger, the secret tactics of how to hold and aim his rifle, how to use objects including parked cars as cover during fire fights and to include reasons not to stand upright in the hail of gunfire.
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/2015/06/look-beyond-g7-foreign-aid-experts-tell-buhari/
Kenya’s Uhuru Kenyatta urges Africa to give up aid
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33108716.
We deeal massively with BH on our soil and improve our Intel and border security plus Government social infrastructure and services within the area, we utilize the CJTF intelligence network as the first point of contact within urban areas and the most important resource in any COIN/Asymmetric operation is the taken for granted CIVIL / MILITARY interaction
I humbly request a new thread to discuss Uncle Sam’s new offer.
Seconded sir
Yes o, new thread. But its an acknowledgement that the issue has spilled over, with Chad and Cameroon in the cross hairs, the region needs to be pacified from Terrorists and France may be backing off.
I do not think we have seen the beginning of BH in the far Nord, Cameroon is not in a good position right now.
US donation of $5 billion to MNJTF may well point to American rapprochement with Nigeria. Perhaps the ‘wish list’ is not after all a gimmick. The funds should be applied to the critical needs of the MNJTF. However, Nigeria should thank America but also thread with caution because this is coming barely days after the Nigerian government pledged $100 million USD and requested immediate disbursement of $21 million to the multinational force. Either Uncle Sam is convinced the change in leadership of MNJTF means business and so the money was given in good faith or it might be one of the usual American juicy fish-bait on a hook. But didn’t the Americans release $35 million to France not to long ago to fight Boko Haram?
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/185108-u-s-donates-5bn-to-joint-task-force-to-fight-boko-haram.html
http://www.nta.ng/2014/09/12/nigeria-russia-sign-contract-for-supply-of-mi-171sh-mi-35-terminator-assault-helicopters/ is this deal still on track??
Not with American Money at least
Don’t celebrate yet- it is called military aids and its got alot of strings attached-They are not going to do cash transfer! Bulk of the money will go into logistics and training effort and the disbursement may take 5-8 years! Only a small amount will end up been donated as weapons. Boko haram is a serious threat to the west and their interest in West African Subregion,, This is not really a new found love for Nigeria- it is more of a necessity to
(1) Curtail the Boko Haram menace before we become mass exporter of terrorism like Afghanistan and Iran- It takes billions to deal with these countries exports yearly!
(2) Whittle down Sino-russian influence in the largest economy in Africa-They know that this Government is not silly politicking and would invest greatly in whatever will destroy Boko haram- The American hate to see a $1b Russian weapons loan,Sino-Pakistani equipment bought in large quantities because-it makes these countries more indispensable at Western expense. We are about to get the Egyptian treatment- so-long as you are a good boy-we shall ensure you remain a big boy with lots of cookies.
(3) We are really the only guy that can pull these off ( irrespective of the former F..K ups) You cannot deal with emerging terrorism threats in Sahara and West Africa without us, if it were possible- it would have been done.
(4) If we fail everybody will suffer! We are a country that can produce 10,000 + terrorist within 2 years from our own people in our own land .If we are eventually overwhelmed-we can guarantee the world of yearly production of about 5,000 terrorist! That is more than the military expansion rates of most countries here.
(5) In all honesty the past administration is very difficult to deal with-the political leadership in particular.Very soon you shall hear procurement corruption stories that will hit your hear drum like a dagger through your chest (2pac). Why they wont sell 30years+ Cobras, Textron Scorpion,refused approval for Tucanos…….
Oga Solorex, you are really in the know of things and your analysis is spot on.
So right.
E.G $1b could easily be to fund increased satellite overflights across the NE, or to fund a dedicated squadron of AWACs operating from out of the UK to provide ELINT services. Plus the ever present capacity building, where they will spend the money teaching our troops how to keep their kit clean, polish their boots, rifle cleaning etc.
We see this all the time in the NGO business.
My theory is this. There are g lobalists at work who want to decimate all notions of the ethnicity based nation state. They want to organise the whole world into economic and political blocs which are more manageable and so they would always support multi lateral action over unilateral national action. Also wars make nations stronger and thats a second reason to only fund joint actions over unilateral national action.
In their world, in the next ten years would be bloc of countries, global non-profit organizations and global profit making organizations .
Dear Ogas, This amount ( $Bs) is what is stolen during fuel deals in a couple of months, don’t fall for it. they just increased the size of the bait, 70% of this amount is used to service their own country, by giving contracts to friendlies ( Payback to companies that supported during the Donors election) at donor countries, which eventual directly or indirectly end up in lobbyists pocket. 20% to take care of the small westerners/troops ( Hotels, Accommodation, air conditioned rides – preferable SUVs, rotation tickets, phones, special allowances, expatriate life style, girls and night clubs included, etc this will keep their western boys happy and elite) going on this Safaris to supervise the Africans (whom probably has see more action than them), They would teach the most important techniques of increasing the speed of his trigger finger, the secret tactics of how to hold and aim his rifle, how to use objects including parked cars as cover during fire fights and to include reasons not to stand upright in the hail of gunfire.
Kenya’s Uhuru Kenyatta urges Africa to give up aid
We need to deal massive blow to BH on our soil and improve our Intel and border security plus Government social infrastructure and services within the area, we utilize the CJTF intelligence network as the first point of contact within urban areas and the most important resource in any COIN/Asymmetric operation is the taken for granted CIVIL / MILITARY interaction
LOL…i love the part about “the secret American developed techniques of sqeezing the trigger”.
@ Capt tobias, Its to be expected, no will give aid just for the sake of it, there has got to be something in it for the donor. Regarding the skills you described, by now I dont think our men dont have such skills, a lot of what they will teach has come from experience and constant review of engagements and reasoning out a way to do things better. We had had our experiences but it appears that our tactics did nt change much and we do not take full advantage of the benefit of hindsight. There appears to be very little flexibility in military doctrin and tactics in our armed forces…..or should I say inadequate.
During the war with georgia Russia realised that they had serious defeciences in their war machine and the y decided to address them, thry looked inwards and now we can see hw well oiled d machine is now.
Oga Adetayo, I was being sarcastic about the triggers and all, I truly agree with you that we have learned a lot , with the way the BH was dealt with in 6 weeks, what we need tom do now is retain and maintain the knowledge for future application in the last exercise in Chad, what major changes did it make to the goings.
@ Capt Tobias I realised ur sacarsm shortly after but ws no longer in a position to acknowledge it. Took ur statement a bit outa context. I salute ur hustle
1) IMHO, The US govt has decided they will rather deal with this PMB administration than have a hands of approach
2) I hope OGA BEEGS will start a new thread.
3) The $100 Million that Nigeria pledged to the MJNTF of which $21M will be spent this week was what the US was waiting for so as not to upstage the AU mtg and PMB they waited at least 24 hours before announcing this deal
4) I HONESTLY ( Capital letters mine) do not know what is in the deal specifically for Nigeria but this deal does not go through without Nigeria being at it’s center, let me explain America is not going to give MR IDRIS DERBY $5B
5) The US govt for the first time have explained in detail how they are very interested in working with the Nigerian Govt which will imply they are already working with the Nigerian Govt
6) It also implies for the first time Ammnesty International will not be able to hold this deal up.
7) It as it correctly implies will be a G2 to G2 deal so all this mind over matter salacious Details is a little to much.
You are very optimistic. First, it has to be clear that this is a clear move to dissuade Nigeria from continuing further alliance with Russia and China. Meanwhile, in my humble opinion, the US pledge will come in tit bits over a period of a few years. Most of it will go to “training” costs. Expect non-lethal aids like a few trucks, some kits e.t.c at some point too. We need to remember that the MNJTF is not a Nigerian force even though Nigeria is leading coalition. Next, the US will once again be our favourite market for buying weapons with downgraded, limited capabilities.
I am neither anti-US nor Pro Russia, I am only interested in the independence of Nigeria. Nigeria will be shooting herself in the foot if it follows the dangling carrot and turns her back in haste on Russia and China, these are allies that have stood by Nigeria when the rest of the world betrayed her. Nigeria needs to strike a neutral working balance with US, EU, China and Russia. Nigeria together with her neighbours need to accept this pledged help with a lot of gratitude, meanwhile Nigeria needs to continue to lead the coalition, bearing the bulk of the responsibility as was demonstrated with the immediate release of $21M out of a pledged $100M by the Nigerian government to support the coalition. Nigeria should follow through on her existing partnership and deals with China, Russia in terms of equipment acquisition as well as troop training with Russia, Pakistan and India.
eanwhile, where are the SUs and gunships and Tanks people are clamouring for on this blog? 🙂 I am really curious to see what the first major military acquisition under this new administration would be. I am also curious to see if it;d be a government to government deal or the usual shady deals.
The US will protest much over our interaction with China, current US trade and military policy is to deny China access (to the sea and to trading partners), this may bleed over to a hot conflict (a second major war in the Pacific).. we are not in the Pacific so Nigeria will not participate in a shooting war allied to any body. We need to continue alliances with both nations, trade with both nations, weapon procurement with both nations.
I am not quite that OPTIMISTIC, I honestly think whether the sum promised by the US was $5m OR $5B . Nigeria will only start to change when three principal things start to happen.
1) Incompetent Military officers are let go
2) Nigeria as they have finally started doing since FEB2014 start to pay the full COSTS for this WAR because it is the person who pays the costs will be the BOSS
3) The actual procurement of weapons whether they are from Russia / China / or Nigeria actually are bring produced.
Iam not slavish to either side of the World I would love to aTHE see su27/ 30 with THE green ROUNDEL or the jf17 or the F16 at this stage it DOES NOT MATTER TO ME I am tired of the talk and the EAST LOVES Nigeria more than the West
OLA tell me did the NIGERIAN army start speaking Chinese because we PAID CASH for the MRAPS .
The PLAIN DIFFERENCE between us and the Algerians is that we want stuff FOR FREE pure and simple. Why havent the jf 17s arrived it TOOK A GOVT IN 1960S SIXTY DAYS to Ships Migs from Russia to Nigeria but we cannot ship JF17S maybe ( SCARCASTICALLY) the PAKISTANIS have put an embargo on .
There are OFFICERS who who have served in the North east FOR MORE THAN 12 CALENDAR MONTHS and will not be rotated out you know why? because they are the best at what they do and they continue to do so while other pontificate they want the war to come to an end yesterday THEY DO NOT GIVE A RAT’S ASS whether the equipment is made in the usa / china/ russia/ Nigeria just buy/ build the dammn thing so we can end this WAR.
Mr Jimmy, I just read now on Channels that the US promised $5M. Interesting. That is about the price of 10 new Humvees 🙂 That’s good actually, it still gives Nigeria ALL the say over how the MNJTF operates. So far, among all the 5 countries involved, only Nigeria has come out to pledge money. Nigeria did not only pledge $100M, $21M has already been released, now that is how to play the big brother! I hope president Buhari will soon roll out his plan with the MNJTF.
Meanwhile, I hope the FG and Nigerian armed forces will not frustrate the desire and expectations of their ardent supporters on and offshore. We want to see well trained, well kitted and equipped, happy, disciplined troops from Nigeria.
China vs USA in who controls Africa
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33115502
EXCLUSIVE: SA troops ‘held hostage’ in Sudan over al-Bashir
High-wire politics by Bashir.
You have to admire the chap.
I wonder how Nigeria would have reacted in a similar situation???
And that situation will occur at the rate amnesty international is going…
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/EXCLUSIVE-Sudan-held-SA-hostage-20150616
So why is this not in every major news outlet, we all know western media won’t miss a chance to trash Bashir.
And if its true, then SA should simply withdraw its troops from there and protest to the AU and UN about it. If they didn’t do that in the next few days, then i won’t believe this story.
Oga Rugged7. I respect your hustle sir
HAHAHAHAHAH…. Dayumm, talk about a gangsta, hehehehe.
“I wonder how Nigeria would have reacted in a similar situation???”
Oga, i doubt the ever Diplomatically astute Nigeria would have ever ventured into the back waters of we robing Peter to pay Paul in such a blatant and obvious manner, it smacks not only of a seemingly infantile knee-jerk reaction but also grossly undermines the AU that has already taken a clear and concise position on the matters regarding Present Heads of State and the so called ICC. The SA judge that decided to venture into this geopolitical game with his two eyes closed is obviously not well versed in this high stakes game. You cannot act belligerent when you’ve clearly got human and physical interests in said country, unless you are willing to forfeit such interests. Here is the paper tiger judge next to the man who wields serious powers 🙂
Judge better learn some manners, hehehe. In all honesty, which ever way this game played would have been absolutely fine by me; will be shocked though if this judge isn’t sanctioned or at least reprimanded for his palpable, wanton, and deliberate ignorance which would have apparently set off a war between two African countries.
Judges have a job to do, and playing politics isn’t one of them, regardless of any national interest that might be at play. There was a warrant for the man’s arrest, and the court was petitioned to issue a stay order or whatever, and the Judge did, and rightfully so. The warrant is valid, SA is a signatory , so why wouldn’t a Judge that’s supposed to follow the law now disregard a valid arrest warrant? That makes no sense. Politicians will play politics, Judges must stay with what the law says.
by trying to arrest a president, the LOCAL judge dived directly into international politics and nearly had 1400 south africans killed and a war started, I guess the judge would have been the next casualty of that war due to not so friendly fire.
Very soon the MNJTF will become the private army of the west, so whatever dirty work or intervention they want in that part of the world, they would know who to call on.
That’s why you never allow outsiders to fund your programs, the moment they do, they own you.
Its like the AU’s dependence on EU for fund the budget of its programs, that’s a bad idea.
Yes, some foreign governments are vesting their interest in the MNJTF to probably make it the force their stick to be wielded in the region, but I don’t think that will play out with Nigeria pumping in $100M into the force. I strongly believe so long as Nigeria is funding the force and permanently leading it, the force will not be a tool in the hands of foreigners.
the whole election gimmicks is becoming clearer sorry to say i am more pessimistic than optimistic and i fear for our pipeline acqusitions
The next four years will be decisive for Nigeria.
Too many things are going on simultaneously.
Economy, security, geopolitics,demographics etc
Learnt the Buhari administration will/has stopped the oil pipelines contracts to militants.
The Niger delta militancy will commence again with some vengeance…
That means the Nigerian Army will be at war in 3 or 4 different theatres.
Logistically, this will create serious problems for NA.
It is inevitable that Nigeria has to arm up adequately.
Maybe i’m wrong, but u do get the feeling sometimes that the Nigerian top brass is asleep at the wheels or just moving at a snail’s pace…
You are not wrong there are quite a few senior officers in all three armed forces who either gave extremeley poor advice to GEJ or gave sound advice and this advice was PROMPTLY rejected.They honestly if found to of given poor advice need to be told to put in their papers.
Let me talk about the pipeline contract for LAGOS STATE it spanned a period of three months and was awarded to a no good sob of a thug called Gani Adams who would lose money selling ice cold water int he desert.The contract legally has expired.
The ANGER of the stake holders in LAGOS state was palpable when this Contract was disclosed instead of the Armed forces to guide these SENSITIVE INSTALLATIONS it was now left to high school drop outs,, area thugs and drug dealers/ part time armed robbers to provide security. This showdown in LAGOS and FURTHER down the coast in the NIGER DELTA where ESTIMATES 400k BARRLES are being siphoned is inevitable, the AMMNESTY SHOULD CONTINUE, BUT SECURITY OF OIL pipelines and installations belongs to the NAVY and by extensionas per the constitution to the armed forces of Nigeria, the gravy train is over.
@ Oga jimmy, I was incensed when I heard abt d contracts. I felt betrayed. How cld we hv handed over the security of our most sensitive economic asset to a bunch of no good thugs. Like we were a nation without security forces. I do not bliv any of the Military. Ogas wld hv liked d idea. Looked like it ws done for political gain to me. Its over nw and I couldn’t be happier
Dear Oga Rugged
Responding to this line “The Niger delta militancy will commence again with some vengeance…”
Just a thought, do you thing that by allowing a form deregulated production of Oil will keep the NG Militants busy. I read about the owner of a destroyed illegal refinery in the creek area, who spoke in the newspapers about his operations, how he built and fabricated his equipment and the fact that he supplies a small area with refined fuel, at a very low cost. He also mentioned that he would like to be formally authorized to produce petrol/diesel for his locality, also he seem to have employed retrenched oil workers into a medium sized workforce that do shifts. I am not on location, so I was wondering if this type of controlled minimal participation by the locals /militants would quiet them down.
I mean permit to operate small cottage refineries. Just seeking your informed view
@ Oga Capt Tobias Wilcock
I really think deregulation is the way to go for the oil industry.
In fact we don’t have much of a choice now.
Oil has flooded the world markets.
And i think licensing and regulating those small scale industries who want to refine oil is also the way to go as well.
This will spread the wealth as well as make pipeline vandalization less attractive,
BUT, there will still be those militants who will wreck the pipelines for criminal or political motives,
Thatz where the armed forces should ideally come in…
Either way deregulation MUST HAPPEN.
People will protest still, but it is the most strategic option.
Ghana has commenced rapid staggered deregulation.
@ Oga Rugged, I believe the idea of small and modular refineries ws mooted @ d twilight of the last administration. It remains to be seen whether this administration will run with the idea. Regulation seems the obvious way to go. Although some pple argue that it amounts to giving in and running away from the problem created by unscrupulous marketers rather than tackling the problem head on
Good luck to anybody that thinks the army can guard our pipelines. Sometimes, the “foolish” methods are the best. How many soldiers do we have? We will need at least a million of them in communities that are hostile and want to secede. I recall Yar Adua spent $5billion and in the end was forced to accept the amnesty by circumstances.
Those pipelines can only be guarded by the people, those communities need to have a stake in Nigeria for there to be peace.
Lets employ common sense methods until we can restructure Nigeria fairly. What army can guard this? I only see looming failure and economic disaster.
“Yar Adua spent $5billion” on arms to conquer the Niger Delta and failed.
Dear Bros,
Thanks for the replies most informatifve and gives me a perspective of matter on ground.
Thanks to all again.
The Paris air show is currently ongoing, the Russian Military-Technical Forum “ARMY-2015” started today. I really hope that we have our people at both events. great opportunity to forge partnerships and get to know arms manufacturers (the middle men in our arms deal cannot pay us) and do brisk business.
Nigerian Delegation at Paris air show. JF-17 stall.
http://defence.pk/threads/jf-17-thunder-fighter-secures-its-first-export-order.381009/page-16#post-7277885
Thank you sir!!!
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/soldiers-shoot-driver-over-n500-colleagues-shut-zaria-kaduna-highway/
One of the reasons why the Nigerian Army has an image PROBLEM
Here is another reason http://www.punchng.com/metro-plus/military-men-eject-occupants-turn-houses-into-barracks/
Why there ws no provision for the accommodation of the soldiers beats me!
I seriously doubt this story, lets avoid being as gullible as little children.
The main preoccupation of some folks on this forum these days is to find ways to debase Nigeria Military. Most of the news media are baseless for all you know those are disgruntled tenants not happy the house was rented to the navy as a FOB. Is it not strange there is no comment from the traditional ruler or owner of the buildings. Most of you guys making comments know the twitter handles and contact details of military spokespersons. Please direct your complaints there
men wearing camo and carrying rifles doesn’t eaqual soldiers and this is the reason the fg is doing all it can to limit the proliferation of the uniform.
Haha, wasn’t i just talking about this yesterday? And here is Igbi again, already in denial.
Men in Camo aren’t necessarily soldiers, man, get a grip.
Some would like to believe these things don’t happen.
Oga Igbi, i will fly to Naija to report this one, lol.
As i said before, there is a break down of command somewhere, odd to have men in uniform act this way without any oversight.
Let’s hope its not true, but knowing what has happened in the past, I will remain open minded about this story.
When i say that the institution have a bad reputation among the people, this is a clear example of such.
A few giving the majority a bad name. If they don’t do something about these, the sacrifices of our brave soldiers will be in vain, and that’s definitely not fair
Oga Saleh and Oga Igbi, thank you.
You have to wonder why some people only post horrid things about Nigeria and our army, most of which can either not be proven or have been dealt with according to our laws.
There is no Nigerian citizen worth their passport who can claim to be a spectator in their own country. There is no one who can claim to be a true child of a family, yet only spectate, condemn and contribute zero. Lets all get up and do something instead of pulling the country down, if anyone can only react because there has been an Amnesty International report, or the New York Times (or any other Western organisation) has a new put down, then there is a need for them to look deeply in the mirror, because Nigeria is the least of their problems. I have actually read a comment by a Nigerian on a Western news agencies website begging America to come and invade Nigeria.
I certainly believe we should criticize our country where things have gone wrong, but just as #BringBackOurGirls achieved little outside derision, so idle, dangerous and self-demeaning chatter on the internet serves no purpose, outside creating the schisms that malevolent foreign powers can inhabit to drive divisions between East and West, North and South, Christian and Muslim.
Nigeria is our only country, please let us be constructive and structured in our criticisms and contributions. We must always have it in mind that a selfless Nigerian, General Beegs, has spent time, effort and tears to make this place a worthy gathering for Nigerians to gather in with pride and dignity. Let us at least, respect him.
The US only donated $5 million not $5 billion as written. Only The Punch newspaper got it correct before the $5 billion tale caught fire.
Boko Haram crisis: US to fund Nigeria-led force
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33146561
“Boko Haram “was not just a Nigerian problem”, US official Linda Thomas-Greenfield said.”
What a strange world we live in.
And what strange “friends” we have…
How times have changed.
I recall not too long ago, when the U.S insisted that Boko haram was a “wholly” Nigerian problem and that “Nigeria should wake up to it’s responsibilities” and other sanctimonious crap…
1st they refuse to sell u weapons and helicopters; next they are asking u for a “wish-list”.
These chaps are just too fickle.
I would urge Buhari to be extremely careful with these people…
The Nigerian political leadership keep on acting like a dear caught in car headlights.
As if these chaps just love them for their melanin tinted skin…
Why u cant pass a comment without an insult (however thinly veiled) it may be is beyond me. Ur doubts are noted. But I know the area av passed by a few times and I really dint see anything in accomodation for the troops. Also I was in the area the day the raid was carried out and for those of us in Nigeria we know its nt beyond the realm of possibility. Give me a reason for ur doubt other than ur instinctive need to not see d possibility of our troops being in the bad
so now you are a witness to the story ? Now, this show that you are making up a new story to defend a childish and discredited story. I think common sense is enough to tell us that soldiers don’t go around evicting people from their homes and turning those homes into barracks. That is a scene from a war movie. Don’t believe all the incredible stories you hear,
Common sense does nt always tally with how some elements of our armed forces act. Common sense wld say soldiers wont burn BRT buses that they get to ride for free. Common sense wont expect elements in the NA would attack the area C HQ of the NPF nd burn it to the ground. The LASG recently rebuilt it http://leadership.ng/news/391726/fashola-hands-area-c-command-hqts-lagos-cp
Also when, where and how ws the story discredited? In France?
Look, now you have reverted to deviation. So what you mean is that because you believe stories of soldiers burning BRT buses after a soldiers was killed, now you believe every story said about soldiers !? Is that wise ? And look, first you brought the printed fairytail; and I duly discredited it as a fairytail, then you falsely claimed to be a witness, and now you are using the argument that any bad story must be true !? DO I need to say more ?
So You think the burning of the BRT buses is aa farce? From france over those who live in Lagos. And what abt the burning of Area C HQ in lere…….. hv u discredited that. dont misquote me. Dont avoid some parts of my statements and pick what u want. Dont miss the forest for the trees.
why the sudden deviation ? Are we still talking about the fairy tail story you just posted ?
I was actually a witness to the burning of the Area C Police Station (Barracks, Surulere, Lagos) by soldiers and on the issue of “requisitioned” houses, its a fairly common practice by soldiers on internal security operations, although usually with the initial consent of the community.
During the Warri crises, my Family provided living quarters to the soldiers deployed in the area, their maintaining and stating when they would vacate the building provided was another matter entirely. They finally left when their parent battalion was rotated out.
Though it is funny that i keep observing the same pattern of behaviour among some people. First they bring up a report, then the report is exposed as a childish lie, then they claim to be witnesses of the events.
Lol!! Look @ who is talking about patterns of behaviour. Abeg show me where d story was shown to be a lie. Am quating a story from a credible media organisation and u r relying on……………….to discredit d story
I am relying on common sense, and also I think you have lost credibility by pretending to be an “eye witness” in order to give credit to the story.
Your opinion abt me holds little water at least am glad u limited urself to 1 clear insult this time
When you hear a fairy tail, you need to use your own head to say “wait a minut…”. Or else we will continue having many cases of Orson Wells kinds of journalists who will make you believe that aliens have invaded the earth.
Let us understand where Igbi is coming from and not be too hard on him and his Uber patriotic defense of everything Nigeria. When you live in an environment where your Nation and People gets insulted, the PROPER thing to do is a blanket defense of your Nation, never backing down nor admitting to any national fault; basically equivalent to defending the honour of a family member being insulted by strangers. The mistake Igbi makes is his failure to differentiate between mis-informed oyinbos over there and Nigerians on ground here, who experience and even participate in things.
Igbi’s stance on things pro Nigeria, while perplexing at times is FAR BETTER than some people, who actually visit pro Cameroonian sites to insult our Nation, GEJ and Army, while apologizing to them. All these from a “patriot” who constantly wants us to invade and level Cameroon.
Thank you Igbi.
Oga Eugene4eveR, oyimbo’s are misinformed about Africa in general because we have a surplus of people who just say anything without self-pride, thinking oyinbo’s somehow love them more and will smile on them like Jesus if they disown their ancestral identity. These things make whites believe that their misconceptions about Africans must be true, because they themselves would never say such things about their countries, no matter how bad.
There are many oyimbo people that are genuinely curious about Africans, I recall an oyimbo friend once asking me why some Africans answer English names. That was the only time a question about my roots has made me feel blood flow to my face. How do you answer that to a person whose people spend generations in foreign lands, yet never take foreign names? Consider this about whites in America, Kenya, South Africa, Hong Kong etc.
So please, brother, lets be proud of who we are and careful about what we tell those who are not members of the family.
Doubting a story doesn’t equal discrediting it, lord.
How did you discredit something without offering an alternative narrative?
Igbi, na wa for you oo
“Chad has been fighting Boko Haram since January, engaging the group more vigorously than Nigeria’s own forces have. The Chadian Army has recaptured towns inside Nigeria from the group and lost dozens of soldiers in the fighting.”
“Battle hardened chadians
lol…..Adam nossiter @new york times no dey tire sha
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/16/world/africa/suicide-bombers-strike-chads-capital.html
Imagine that.
The idea is that Nigeria should still break up as predicted. Look the reality is that the other side of the pond do not really, who is bothered or cares across the pond that the Middle East is in turmoil or doingthe killing, It takes the bore out of the evening news, ( Major League) IS vs AI Vs Assad Vs Yemen vs Saudi Vs Iran Vs Iraq Vs Libya, kind of a tag team WWA death bout, the final winner would now fight the almighty Champion ” The Western Forces”. (Minor League) Afghan vs Taliban Vs Pakistan. ( external help) – Hezzbollah, PLO, etcs. Their enemies are killing themselves, the longer the fight goes on , the better, No one is watching or counting who is lifting the Oil, The Saudi would soon finish their bomb stock pile and need a refill (more supply contracts, more money), More newer Bombs, guns and killing machines for sale. BH might make Naija to stop asserting it’s self economically and politically in the ECOWAS region and disturbing the West’s ( france in particular) sales with their cheap products and Chinses carry overs ( The West says, “may be we can get them to sign the EU trade treaty for more arms”), Isreal is out of the Arab Binoculars. All the west has to do act concerned and let them get on with the job of killing themselves.
So, calm down people, US is giving $5M dollars!
http://www.channelstv.com/2015/06/16/boko-haram-u-s-to-donate-5-million-not-5-billion-to-mnjtf-thomas-greenfield/
The kinds of reasoning I keep hearing from some people is alarming.
What would a paltry $ 5 million dollars do in the fight against BH for the joint task force involving at least 4 countries when the US gave France $35 million to fight Boko Haram even though it is purely a Nigerian/West African/ Lake Chad Basin countries’ problem
They will buy radios with it lol. Don’t mind them.
But I’m glad that’s all they gave. We need to do this things ourselves without giving these westerners too much access
Buhari orders military to investigate AI report
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/185140-amnesty-internationals-report-buharis-order-for-military-probe-wrong-group.html
Its the right move. You wouldn’t know if something is all true or all lie without investigating it. So they should, and if any one committed crimes while deployed, they should be sanctioned.
I will be dissapointed of Buhari accepts this ”paltry donation”, if he does the he has invariably sold Nigeria’s prestige. No matter how successful our army eventually becomes against Boko Haram the credit will be given to the U.S who ”reversed the fortunes of the Nigerian army by providing financial and logistical assistance”.. the same way Nigerian army successes are being attributed to the involvement of regional countries like Chad, Niger and Cameroon.
Nigeria is not a nation dependent on aid like Niger or Chad or even Cameroon were citizens are asked to donate money to help its soldiers. This is a $ 1 trillion economy in real PPP terms (conservative estimate). An energy superpower with a 36 billion barrel in oil reserve (estimated worth $4 trillion)no African nation comes close (except Libya) and with a security budget of $6 billion in the fiscal year this is easily the biggest defense spender in sub Saharan Africa. Why are we embracing the Americans and their clever bit of subterfuge to swindle the credit that will come from the inevitable defeat of Boko Haram.
A much poorer Nigeria single handedly funded and sustained military operations in far away Liberia and S-Leone, we are talking over $10 BIllion in a 7 year period. Our military capability might have declined somewhat but our economic strength has not, far from it. Even with lower oil prices we can raise $10 billion in just 2 years by slashing the size of government and cutting government oficials pay by just %5.
Why do we as Nigerians always get so needlessly nationalistic to the point patriotism simply sounds so boring and unappealing? We should perish this sense of vain patriotism because without a shred of common sense, patriotism is all but a distraction. Many times, we as a country deserve the way other countries treat us. Imagine the fact that we spend nearly 90 per cent of our annual budget on overheads, and yet we expect other countries to respect us. A country where less than 1000 individuals in one arm of government share 9 billion naira within a few weeks of starting a part time job with something like 850 per cent of their annual wages being paid up front as allowances. It should even be a surprise that any right thinking country in the world regards Nigeria as a serious country, the way we do things.
Besides, why are we always so quick to demand recognition, and prestige from others even though we refuse to do what we ought to have done all along to earn such prestige. A country that couldn’t manufacture at home enough rifles for its army shouldn’t even talk about prestige when someone throws peanuts at us. We tend to act like the whole world owes us a debt. It’s simply a lazy mentality.
This is how you change the image of the Police Force.
1. The NO.1 police officer ( The I.G.) accepts there is a problem.
2.The NO.1 police officer ( The I.G.) does not bury the problem and says it is us against them bloody CIVILLIANS.
3. The NO.1 police officer ( The I.G.) then sets up an accountability structure to get rid of those who are determined to keep accepting bribes.
4. Involve the public at first the said public will be skeptical but if results will continue it will lead to a better POLICE FORCE.
Just something for the Nigerian Army to Ponder, if the NPF can change the NA can change.
it is only common sense that reporting bad behaviour of personnel to the force, is the only way to make the force better. I have called for people to do that several times. The fact that human beings sometimes behave badly is common knowledge I hope. Now if you start reporting personnel behaving badly, then disciplinary action will be taken and that bad behaviour will gradually disappear. But if you chose not to report and you are expecting diciplinary action to happen by magic, then you are daydreaming.
@Igbi, to fix it, those reporting bad behaviors must be able to report to a different institution, not the police. Its like walking into a police station to report an officer that works there, chances are they won’t take that seriously.
Ex-cops with integrity should be hired, or people specifically trained to investigate abuses, they must have their own offices all over the country with their office phone numbers accessible to the people, and their only mission should be to investigate bad cops. I believe its called “Internal Affairs” here in the USA.
They investigate everything from bribery among the police to “Officer involved shooting”.
That’s what Nigeria needs, they shouldn’t ask citizens to report bad cops to cops.
How do you exppect the force to act when noboody reports ? On which basis does the force punish a personnel whose bad behaviour nobody has reported ? People need to understand that bad behaviour of personnel in the armed forces or the police is against the laws of the armed forces and those of the police. The military and the police are desperate for you to report bad behaviour, don’t expect a guilty personnel to go and report himself.
http://odili.net/news/source/2015/jun/16/862.html
Here is the link.
They need to provide something more realistic, not some “stopthebribes Platform”, how many older nigerians have facebook or twitter so they can report police abuse, what on earth.
What they need is an office in several locations where people can walk into and make their report, the idea of basing this online is flawed. More like an internal Affairs department, not sure if they have one, but they need one.
This is where cops would be investigated. Publish the number for such office all over the country and let people be able to call in, then make an appointment to report bad behaviors.
An office with non police officers, or with retired officers working there, that’s much better, not an online platform.
The reporting channels are probably there, but it is just that even when people report unprofessional conduct of police officers to the police management, no action is taken. There are hundreds if not thousands of petitions regularly sent to the IG’s office basis by people concerning police conduct, so the IG surely is aware of the problem. Perhaps, the complaints system in the police should be decentralised, so that every police station and zonal HQs are able to deal with many of these complaints and only very serious reports should be dealt with at the national HQ.
Having a functional and efficient complaints system will benefit the police as the management would be able to understand where officers need further training, areas the force could further work on and how to engage better with citizens at both personal and community levels. Again, a functional complaints system would help the police develop better policing techniques, as well as device robust fool proof ways of weeding out rotten personnel from within its ranks.
@chynedoo. Exactly my point. Some are screaming report it. Now imagine being forced to give bribe by a cops, then you walk into the nearest police station to report it, how many people would do that? When you’ve basically just been robbed by cops, right there you lose confidence in them, because the person you might report to in that station might just be as corrupt of know the other officers, therefore no action will be taken.
That’s why an independent agency is needed, locally, all over the country. like i mentioned before, “Internal Affairs” department of the police force, then people can go in there with the name and badge number of the officer, and make their report, without fear of harassment.
http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/184971-boko-haram-nigerians-should-expect-positive-results-soon-army-chief.html
http://www.naij.com/452703-nigerian-military-accuses-amnesty-international-of-being-biased.html
Recently a group of people have been trying to derail this blog to tarnish the image of Nigerian military. Please stop !
Igbi, cut out the bs and let people express themselves, damn, you don’t let things go?
I am trying my very best not to insult you or call you by what you are. I really don’t understand what you stand to gain in your behaviour.
Not gonna argue with you. Call me what I am, what’s that? please speak your mind.
You like to argue, each time you come on here, you are always picking a fight with people. Move on. Jeez
You can’t report bad behaviour and you are even against reporting bad behaviour, yet you are here to complain. My friend if you don’t report bad behaviour then you are an accomplice of the behaviour. I urge other Nigerians to start complaining about your behaviour. Some people seem to worship AI.
Haha, now i worship AI? lol, same AI i’ve criticized on here.
Funny how you always call people things they aren’t. Not long ago i was kissing America’s ass, now i worship AI. hope there isn’t mental problem on your side.
A mechanism to report bad behavior must be properly defined, people must be educated about it and numbers must be distributed via news media. that’s common sense.
Don’t expect victims to police abuse to walk into a freaking police station to report to those same people that abuse them. Lord.
That’s why i just talked about an internal affairs department for the police, that way there is a proper venue all over the country where people can actually report abuse.
Not hard to read. Have a nice day, and if you wanna keep talking , you are all alone , I’m done with your madness.
Ok, I abstained from insulting you and you returned the favour by insulting me. Nice. But, let me focus on the important part: “Don’t expect victims to police abuse to walk into a freaking police station to report to those same people that abuse them.” Look, I don’t know your exact level of intellect, but try and get this: Let A be a personnel of the police who misbehaved, and let B be an other personnel (if possible a much higher ranking personnel) of the police working in a police station: now all you have to do is to report A to B. I once saw an officer beg a civilian not to report him to the army. The officer was on his knees before the woman. That is how powerful reporting can be. Now, not everybody is a coward like you. So stop trying to make everybody acts as cowardly as you.
dward @DonKlericuzio 8h8 hours ago
4 MRE Trucks meant for Cameroon soldiers and gendarmes battling Islamists in far north region were seized by #BokoHaram monday
Edward @DonKlericuzio 8h8 hours ago
3 cameroon soldiers were killed monday when #BokoHaram attacked looted Ngassama & Dabanga towns of foodstuffs
lol this igbi dude,.. you are on high octane steroids,the words you type actually speak needless verbally obscenity to the point its not comical.
lol, i tire oo
Gen Olukolade haven’t update his tweet since May 6th, what’s going on over there, that’s more than a month ago
I strongly believe that some people have come here with an evil agenda to disgrace the Nigerian army and campaign for Nigeria’s enslavement. It is irritating.
Let us be careful to vary our arguments, respect our country and actually contribute the little we can. Careless talk does not buy progress.
Everyone has a mouth, but it takes wisdom to use it properly.
In the usa policemen get away with murder of black children, yet some see the usa system as a model to follow.
A child playing with a toy gun was killed by the police, in the USA, the said boy was pointing a toy gun at people, but of course the gun look just like the real thing, cops pulled up next to the kid and shot him.
Now that said cop is now facing manslaughter charges.
It wasn’t swept under the carpet, there is accountability.
And i will say it again, people need to learn to move on and not ruin threads each time by picking argument. Put this to rest already.
You could get an American passport and pack out of Nigeria then. No?
dude, are you mad? I was responding to Igbi’s claim about a black child being killed.
Yet he left out the part about the officer being charge for killing the child.
Why talk about half the story without the rest?
pack out of Nigeria? smh
Anyways, on a lighter now, I hope our women win today, ha. Long shot, but its possible
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There are enough Nigerians to back Nigeria. Thank you.
And that’s supposed to mean what? smh. I guess I’m not Nigerian because i expressed myself? If you have nothing better to say, you can shut the hell up
If you are Nigerian, then you need to look in the mirror. There is a hell of a lot of difference between a hero, a regular person and one who mistakes traitorous behaviour for a talent.
I’m a traitor because i said we have flaws and there is no need to hide them?
Funny, you have billions being stolen from the country yearly, but those are people you all call “his excellency”, but I’m the traitor for stating the obvious.
You are delusional. But I’m sorry, Nigeria is perfect without flaws. You feel better?
Screaming the loudest doesn’t make you a patriot, what you do to help your country is what makes you a patriot, not sit on a blog accusing me of not being a Nigerian.
I’m a young guy and right now building a high school and elementary school back home, what have you done and what is it you are contributing to that country? And I’m the traitor? Dude, you are the one that needs a mirror, and a visit to a psychiatric.
Why can people just let things go and move on, i did, but yet someone keep following me. That’s childish. Let it go or take a nap, your choice.
Sir Kay, these were my words; “There is a hell of a lot of difference between a hero, a regular person and one who mistakes traitorous behaviour for a talent.”
I did not call you a traitor, you clearly chose that appellation because you know exactly what you are doing.
Oga sir kay, it is wrong to be blindly patriotic, but that does not excuse the opposite, which is in fact a crime in every country.
Right from the start, you have repeatedly posted falsehoods. This notoriously includes anti-Nigerian stories of dubious origin and photo’s of soldiers from Niger, Chad or Cameroon as Nigerian soldiers. My Oga, on this website, we have spoken out against lies spread by the Western press against Nigeria as being racist or otherwise prejudiced. What is the difference between a “Nigerian” guy who posts defamatory things about Nigeria and a hater like Adam Nossiter of The New York Times? Many would say “very little.”
If Adam Nossiter was a Nigerian, would it occur to you to call him patriotic or pathetic?
Everything we do should be approached with dignity, decorum and propriety. What do you hope to achieve by condemning Nigeria 90% of the time and posting falsehoods the rest of the time? Do you think we can build Nigeria that way?
It is clear to me that many of you have an agenda to pull Nigeria down by taking the inglorious and dangerous road of demystifying our army.
Et tu Kola Adekola?
@Kola Adekola
Kay made some observations which may be different to yours but no need to personalise it with a veiled accusation of treachery. It is also not very civilised to shout down anyone whose viewpoint differs from yours. To question someone’s nationality, because that individual did not accept a single narrative as truth on a subject matter, is totally wrong. Voltaire once said: ‘I do not agree with what you have to say, but I’ll defend to the death your right to say it’.
Anyway, supporting one’s country, and refusing to point out things when they are visibly not being done correctly is not patriotism, but escapism.
THAnk You SIr!!!
chynedoo
People perceive you as you carry yourself. If you never have anything positive to say about Nigeria, then Nigerians have every right to question you and your game plan.
This is something that has been going on for weeks and weeks and weeks. At some point, people patience will snap.
Since Amnesty International made their racist report, some of you have taken it as a que to begin flogging Nigeria. Don’t feel bad when we question both your timing and allegiance.
If people are really intent on getting across to Nigeria’s military brass, they are all on Twitter and they all engage. If you are not willing to engage them and take to loud and incessant condemnation of Nigeria and its army instead, then it is logical to conclude that you are up to no good and determined to spread bad blood.
Oga chynedoo, how do you define treachery?
What makes you think you are any more Nigerian than any other Nigerian? Blind patriotism? Siege mentality? Sentimental nationalism? And how do you even define patriotism? Is it by supporting the behaviour of inept officials, by supporting the actions of corrupt individuals, by crooks who hold up the Nigerian flag once people question their actions?
If some people are simply gonna sit back and imagine patriotism as blind, unquestioning loyalty, that’s their opinion and should be respected but then that doesn’t mean it is the only opinion worth being heard or respected.
It’s ironic to accuse AI of racism for asking Nigerian officials to be investigated for maltreating and killing other Nigerians. How do you even work that one out? Anyway, we know that when someone lobs a stone in the market place, no one really knows for sure on whose forehead it might land. Today, someone else might be a victim of a official overzealousness or abuse, tomorrow it might be you or someone close to you.
Igbi strikes again, Kola Adekola seconds him. Interesting that whenever some statements about accountability are made, the same usual suspects arise to shout them down with extreme vitriol.
You think rattling on about how bad our soldiers are is somehow making a “statement about accountability?”
The racist report by Amnesty International got you all going, as if by strange coincidence. So who is this “accountability” to? Amnesty International? Is raising hell in support of Amnesty Internationals call to haul our top brass to the ICC your idea of making a “statement about accountability?”
I shudder. Please, note that some of us are proud Blacks, Nigerians and Africans.
Please ask him to define it because his idea of patriotism is that he is building a private school which obviously won’t be free for Nigerian kids.
@Saleh
This one remark is below the belt. You have just done injustice to all the ‘practical patriots’ and true helpers of Nigeria via that remark. And you are also unfortunately taking sides with ‘cyber patriots’, many of whom have not worked, invented, invested, sacrificed or done anything that can be seen, measured, touched and quantified to the national cause. That is a dangerous road you are threading. A man builds a school educating kids and employing people and he is being derided because he has posted some truth about possible human rights abuses and holding institutions to account.
Let me remind you that the most innovative individuals and value adding people are those who are also critical of their environment and do the necessary creative destruction of attitudes not moving a country forward.
AI has a very negative agenda regarding Nigeria and a number of select countries and we have admitted as much and are fighting it but to continue to pamper comfortable negative culture in institutions and governance is also a wrong path. If you have an military that has a culture of abusing civillians you dont necessarily have a strong military.
We need to strike a balance always. We are navigating between two sets of lies, one being spewed out by the likes of AI against Nigeria and the other being spewed by people in denial or out of touch who would even deny something the Nigerian military has admitted to or is investigating.
@Arejames.
Imagine that. I’ve said this many times to these guys, let’s move on and not ruin this thread, I’ve posted other stories, even talked about football, but some just don’t quit.
So i guess having a business that employs almost 25 Nigerians is a bad idea, or a school that will employ more.
I’ve been working my rear off since i was 17, without asking my parents to give me a dime, and every dollar i make, goes back home to help my country.
I”m as patriotic as they come, good school equals happy kids with better education, perhaps he prefer if we have none, or have kids walk 1 million mile to get to the nearest school.
we can’t be posting rosy pictures ever time and deny that problems exist.
I pour money into that country, and i deserve leaders that believe in accountability.
We all do, and we have the right to challenge them if they don’t perform well.
Unless if you are a property to those that rule the country, I”m not.
So my opinion will remain mine, it won’t change. All i wish for was ours to be one of the best country out there, and saying everything is fine isn’t the way to get there.
Being nationalistic is not a bad thing per se if it is based on logical reasoning rather than heaps of emotion and resentment. What is really worrying is, when people start personalizing nationalism, or defining patriotism based on narrow individual dogma. Criticizing ones country is not a sign of lack of nationalistic vigour, or an absence of patriotism but rather an ability to have a realistic approach to such issues instead of hot-headed patriotism. After all, George Bush jnr led America to an immoral war on Iraq largely on the strength of nationalism and neo-American patriotism, a war that was in essence driven by oil and built on lies. Saddam Hussein led Iraq to a catastrophic invasion of Kuwait in 1990 on misplaced patriotism. Again while Abacha and co were busy looting Nigeria and murdering Nigerians in their thousands, he too was busy preaching same clichéd patriotism just like Mugabe has literally wrecked his country on the same stupid theme of nationalism which in fact disguises his own self-interest, and that predictable desperation and destruction it has brought to his country.
Oga Are, employing labour or buliding a school is not a bad idea even though its not free but that does not make him more patriotic than your supposed cyber patriots. Debasing Nigerian security agencies for reasons which are no fault of theirs is appalling. Most of these undesirable elements when handed over to the judiciary system gain their freedom as soon as they are handed over (I do not support extra judicial measures) and even send life threatening messages to the security personnel. I guess you know how difficult it is for more developed countries to gather evidence and why most inmates of Guantanamo facility never had their day in court. Additionally, why the more developed countries prefer strikes on individual.
@Kola Adekola
A pox on your shuddering, i care not for it. The point is being made that Military Civilian relations need to improve, That is the thrust of my argument, the AI report just gives us the opportunity to start that conversation.
lol
ROFLMAO
It’s very sad. Its a crime that i stated our obvious problems. Right from the start I’ve been posting negative things about Nigeria on this blog? Unreal. that’s sad. I’ve posted many pics and articles supporting our troops on here, guess you see what you wanna see huh?
when people keep painting a perfect picture of our country and claim we have no problem at all, those of us that know better should correct them. Every country have its own problem, as i said before, shouting loudest doesn’t make you patriotic.
I’m in America and i have a business back home that employes over 30 Nigerians, I’m building a school now, that’s’ me doing my part with all the money i sweat for here, every dime goes back home to help build that country in my own small way
So if someone thinks I’m a traitor, then that person have a mental problem.
I posted pics that was labeled Nigerian soldiers from a news article, it was meant to be a good pic of our boys, turns out the media outlet made a mistake , it was corrected on this blog, and that’s my fault. Hmmm.
Heheh! Don’t dodge questions by opening new threads, whereas you could have posted your response to me below my post, bro.
I’m sure you will be joining (or organising) an Amnesty International protest to get our Generals before the ICC and claiming that is some weird new definition of patriotism.
You cannot correct Nigeria or anybody by slandering them on the internet and joining forces with racists against them. Why pick out the Nigerian army to the complete exclusion of all other segments of Nigerian society? It is very fishy.
If you are Nigerian, then, we have only one country.
This is what I posted earlier. Please, don’t dodge it:
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“Sir Kay, these were my words; “There is a hell of a lot of difference between a hero, a regular person and one who mistakes traitorous behaviour for a talent.”
I did not call you a traitor, you clearly chose that appellation because you know exactly what you are doing.
Oga sir kay, it is wrong to be blindly patriotic, but that does not excuse the opposite, which is in fact a crime in every country.
Right from the start, you have repeatedly posted falsehoods. This notoriously includes anti-Nigerian stories of dubious origin and photo’s of soldiers from Niger, Chad or Cameroon as Nigerian soldiers. My Oga, on this website, we have spoken out against lies spread by the Western press against Nigeria as being racist or otherwise prejudiced. What is the difference between a “Nigerian” guy who posts defamatory things about Nigeria and a hater like Adam Nossiter of The New York Times? Many would say “very little.”
If Adam Nossiter was a Nigerian, would it occur to you to call him patriotic or pathetic?
Everything we do should be approached with dignity, decorum and propriety. What do you hope to achieve by condemning Nigeria 90% of the time and posting falsehoods the rest of the time? Do you think we can build Nigeria that way?
It is clear to me that many of you have an agenda to pull Nigeria down by taking the inglorious and dangerous road of demystifying our army.”
your life must be very sad.
My only comment about AI was a link posted on here saying Buhari is going to investigate it, and all i said was, if there was a crime committed by some officers, then they should find out and if there is none, then good.
And to Saleh, so building a school is bad idea? A Nigerian Governor just said about 2 days ago that half the pupils in his state sit on the bare floor while in class.
And you are asking if the school will be free.
Man, you guys are truly morons.
Why not got to Nigeria and ask if those nice malls being built that actually make our markets more presentable are free.
Nothing in life is free, but its better to have a school to go to with better education, than to have none.
I never said AI was right about Nigerian soldiers killing people,
On Yahoo news I’ve left over 7,000 comments on there in support of mostly Nigeria and Africa in General.
Again, just because someone pointed out something bad, doesn’t make them less patriotic.
You geniuses can scream till thy kingdom come, that won’t change anything.
You have your point, i have mine, so if you think you can silence me, then you are all sick in the head,.
If i need to trash Nigeria, all i need to do is start my own blog or website and will get thousands of people on there within weeks. Its quite easy
But why focus on trashing my own country every second.
And if any of you have common sense, why not check my posts on here, and see the links and pics I’ve posted in support of our troops.
My allegiance to my country is not to any one man, and if any man do it wrong, i will call them out on it.
I made it clear over and over that there are good guys in uniform over there and the few bad ones are giving them all a bad name.
As i said, you see what you want to see.
Get a life , respect other people’s opinion and stop being so insecure when people don’t sugar coat every damn thing about our country. I asked you,, what is it you are doing to help Nigeria. Its a simple question. I’m doing mine, what’s yours? Morons.
So better move on to something else, or we can do this forever, as i said, i won’t be bullied to silence, none of you have what it takes to do that with me. You don’t know me.
I never told you building a school is a bad idea just shocked that you make it seem you are giving a humanitarian service when its a business venture to you. its shocking an educationist you are or intend to be soon will call folks morons online, I hope that wont be part of the education you intend to impact to kids.
You questioned my loyalty, my nationality, my motive, and you are worried i called you a moron? That was me being nice actually.
What build nations, freebies? No, businesses do, employment do.
I guess you prefer we have free markets, clothing stores, restaurants and free hotels? nice.
And its funny how you focus on the school, i have another business on there that i also mentioned, which put food on the table for 20+ ppl, now add their kids and wives and that number goes up. I bet you’d prefer they have no job?
Again, what is it you’ve done for your country?
So to think questioning my motive and Nationality is funny, it’s not. So don’t expect a hug or nice words.
I tried to let this go, you guys keep coming back repeating same thing over and over.
Boredom? smh
Lol @ what have you done for the nation. @ the employment of labour, please dont beat you chest to much and make us derail the blog by going into figures and wage schedules of staff, I actually have more folks in my payroll than what you stated. please learn to move you debasing to another forum, I guess you should read what this blog is for, there are load of blogs suitable for your present discussions. Visitors to this blog which is the only of its type come to see the glory of Nigerian Military and security agencies. I dont know who even gave you an impression there is an utopia military anywhere, or the difficulty of man management and micro mangement which i guess you ought to know since you are an employer of labour.
@ Sir Kay. It is well, we can all make mistakes with posts.Our soldiers are fighting well at this point, thats not the issue, the issue is that military civilian relationships need to improve, rule of law should be followed. Like Saleh mentioned, Soldiers arrest people and they get released. This is a fact.
In ND when the pipelines are destroyed (for oil theft) and the Navy is deployed, typically they arrest the oil thieves, sometimes at the point of arrest local big wigs, politicians call and say the “boys” should be released. Then the Navy releases the boys and next week they are cutting up another pipeline. This is rule of law and judiciary which must also be resolved.
Calling people names and all that . There is a place for that in blogs also… Its called a flame thread, unfortunately we do not have mods so the bullies and online tough guys have their impugning on the personality of others, calling people traitors and boko haram and all that. Its a bunch of nonsense.
Men telling other men to respect the instituition of the Military and not listen to any evidence of wrong doing, what about respect for the lives of possible innocents who were caught in the dragnet? The lives of those who with no evidence are detained, or even those who have evidence against them but are never prosecuted and judged? Where is the respect for the legal system? Or is it he who bears the guns make the rules? Just because the US has Gitmo, black sites and Diego Garcia does not make torture, indefinite detention, summary execution OK. We as a people , can find a better way. We must have these conversations, and the AI tomfoolery is a good starting point.
Well said Sir, much respect. Some of us prefer reality to fantasy some are peddling.
I dont like copying links from nairaland but anybody denying that we have a long way to go on civil military relationships needs to get out from the front of the computer
http://hottestdaniel.blogspot.co.uk/2015/06/photos-military-officer-orders-man-to.html?m=1
@Oga Are James.
Better not, before the beegeagle police catch you. I bet someone on here will tell you just because that military officer is in uniform doesn’t mean he belongs to the military.
You know, the many imposters in military fatigues.
Boko Haram crisis: US to fund Nigeria-led force
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33146561
This is what i said yesterday, the dangers of taking money from these people, now there is no mention in that article about the 100 million or so we’ve pledged or the one the President ordered released.
Now the its the US funding it, not one else, that’s the story making the rounds.
Boko Haram crisis: US to fund Nigeria-led force
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33146561
This is what i said yesterday, the dangers of taking money from these people, now there is no mention in that article about the 100 million or so we’ve pledged or the one the President ordered released.
Now the its the US funding it, not one else, that’s the story making the rounds.
http://www.english.rfi.fr/africa/20150521-defeating-boko-haram-one-bank-account-time
Military will kill more terrorists to save Nigeria despite allegations – CDS
he Chief of Defence Staff, CDS, Air Vice Marshal Alex Badeh has vowed that the Nigerian military will not relent in killing terrorists until it rids the country of insurgency. He added that the military would not sit back and watch Boko Haram insurgents split and destroy the country.
The Defence Chief, who spoke in Abuja when a coalition of civil society group paid solidarity visit on Defence Headquarters, DHQ, said criticism of the military by Boko Haram sympathizers under war situation was meant to weaken operations and give the enemies an edge over troops in order to destroy the nation.
Admitting that the military was under pressure, Badeh noted that soldiers in developed countries were doing worse things than what the Nigerian Army was being accused of.
Recall that Amnesty International had accused the Nigerian military and some of its officers, including Badeh, of war crimes since the war against Boko Haram insurgency began and were pilling pressure on President Muhammadu Buhari to probe them.
But the CDS, who said the military would not be deterred by these antics from their enemies, assured that the current war was not different from the military engagements during the country’s civil war.
Noting the Nigerian armed forces fought in the 1960s to keep the country one, he said: “One thing the armed forces are doing is that we are not deterred by criticism. In war, nothing is equal and people behave differently under pressure.
“And war is the worst form of pressure any normal human being can ever face. So, if there are one or two infractions out there at the venue of war, it is normal. It happens in every army, the most developed armies had committed worst crimes,” he said, adding that the military would wait for investigation of the Amnesty report on crimes allegedly committed by some officers.
He said the armed forces were very busy fighting the war that would keep Nigeria intact, than pay attention to criticisms aimed at weakening the ongoing operation.
“Our duty and obligation is to make sure we return this country to normalcy; that is our pledge.
http://dailypost.ng/2015/06/17/military-will-kill-more-terrorists-to-save-nigeria-despite-allegations-cds/
This is what am talking about.let amnesty Yak away. War is not maths. Let them go and shout on isreal.
I know right. I mean, how many Iraqis have died since Bush invaded. Not to talk of dropping bombs on sleeping children in Afghanistan. Of course AI won’t see those.
Nigerian Military to Take Over Security of Presidential Villa
The Nigerian military is set to take over activities of the Strike Force whose major job is to provide security for the presidency at Aso Rock.
According to PUNCH, a lieutenant has been assigned to lead the 21-man military force which formerly is made up of DSS operatives.
“DSS officials are the ones that have been serving in the Strike Force. With this development military personnel will take over from them henceforth,” a security source said.
“We are aware that the situation is causing a palpable tension as there is a possibility of a showdown. But we are working hard to ensure that the situation did not degenerate.”
Operatives attached to the Strike Force are always trained abroad on counter-assault and other techniques aimed at making their jobs easier.
In explaining their duties, the source said its operatives were the ones former President Olusegun Obasanjo erroneously referred to as snippers in his widely-publicised open letter to former President Goodluck Jonathan.
Another official, who is aware of the arrangement, also said that machinery had also been put in place to change the new Presidential Villa’s Administrative Officer, who was deployed by the DSS about two weeks ago and replaced with a military officer.
http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/nigerian-military-to-take-over-security-of-presidential-villa.113223/
Why on earth should there be a showdown about this? If orders are given for things to be rearranged, all they have to do is follow such order
The story taya me small. There is obviously a shortage in communication circuits. I think mr president should just state clearly what he wants and everybody will fall in line.
I think we need to be careful about throwing away baby and bath water at this point. Everything GEJ did cannot be bad naah!
If a force has been properly trained at VIP protection, it could be counter productive not to mention outrightly dangerous to throw them out and use the infantry.
The skills are not the same!!!
I would have changed the force leadership, and combine them with loyal elements who would work with them learn their techniques (through observation and formal training) and then ultimately slowly transfer out the older presumably ‘pro Jona’ elements.
But then again, what do i know?
This is Strictly my opinion about the DSS. IMHO. Reform needs to be done at the upper echelon whereby they become less partisan and more neutral. DSS honestly needs to be more active and offensive minded in tackling the sleeper cells, this admittedly is a difficult job,however the gathering of Humint by now should be one of their key strengths.
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I kinda agree with OZED, while there is no law stating that the DSS must protect the president, the fact is that they have been charged with that responsibility and general VIP protection for many many years. As far as Naija is concerned they are the most experienced force in that area, so it stands to reason to let them do the job. My guess is that Mr. president doesn’t trust them for reasons best known to him.
also the law establishing the DSS is the SECURITY AGENCIES ACT, it also established the Defense intelligence agency and the National Intelligence agency. find a link below
http://lawnigeria.com/LawsoftheFederation/NATIONAL-SECURITY-AGENCIES-ACT.html.
http://qz.com/429470/nigerias-legislators-will-get-43-million-of-taxpayers-money-for-a-wardrobe-allowance/
This was just on Yahoo main page. This is part of the leakage, in my opinion, that needs to be plugged
It’s a bit petty for the government to deny DSS their constitutional role because DSS officials appeared to be partisan during the elections. Destroying or even undermining a vital institution within the security architecture of the country out of spite is just immature. Why can’t the govt reform the DSS and hand pick officials for the Villa instead of being vindictive?
Is that actually a constitutional duty, please post a link if you have any. I dont think its a constitutional duty like the secret service in US. Likewise the appointment of a military ADC it just a tradition. the media saying the reason is because of partisan politics is baseless, most of the security agencies were kind of partisan during the election
It is not a constitutional duty for the DSS to protect the president. The ,constitution is silent on the issue of presidential security. in the absence of an agency specifically charged and created for the protection of the president my opinion is that it is left for the president to ecide who takes up the role. he could decide on civil defence if he wants.
the functions of the DSS according to the establishing law are as follows:
(3) The State Security Service shall be charged with responsibility for-
(a) the prevention and detection within Nigeria of any crime against the internal security of Nigeria;
(b) the protection and preservation of all non-military classified matters concerning the internal security of Nigeria; and
one may argue that it falls under 3(b) to protect the president but classified matters are definded by law as
“classified matter” means any information or thing which, under any system of security classification, from time to time, in use by or by any branch of the government, is not to be disclosed to the public and of which the disclosure to the public would be prejudicial to the security of Nigeria.
Its left for Mr president to clear the air and decide what he wants
https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/aboutus/statutory-roles
Have a look at this link. Just trying to find the law establishing DSS. But the fact they are the agency responsible for internal security, and under previous administrations since 1999, there is an established constitutional convention that assigned VIP protection to the DSS. Buhari should stick to that. Using the military as bodyguards is bound to further politicise and diminish NA. It is an unnecessary distraction.
https://dss.gov.ng/index.php/aboutus/statutory-roles
They need to be reformed from top to bottom. The DSS became partisan and began to weep more than the bereaved. A sudden flurry of promotions at the very end did not help matters. It is this author’s opinion for now to redeem their image would start with working harder to the active cell in Maiduguri and Yola.
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It is not the constitutional role of DSS to guard the president. It actually subtracts from their professionalism to be carrying Tavor rifles in a VIP convoy and maybe scaring the kids not real assassins.VIP protection is a very highly specialized activity. Homeland security, counter terrorism and internal counter espionage are also a separate activity one as well and those are what SSS should be doing.
As the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces, by default, the protection of the president should be and is primarily the responsibility of the armed forces (NA, NN, NAF). The CSO of the president will then work together with the president to chose the most reliable hands to entrust with the life of the president.
Protection of prominent officials of the state is a key constitutional/statutory role of the DSS. The agency is primarily responsible for internal intelligence and security of Nigeria’. IBB’s three-tier security architecture of Nigeria made DSS Nigeria’s version of MI5. Besides, DSS is the only agency in Nigeria with the expertise and skills to protect the Nigerian president having been performing that role since the days of IBB. Again since 1999, DSS has been in that role. Which other agency in Nigeria has the experise? Army? Navy? It simply petty for the government to try to destroy what has been built over the last 30 years!
More to the point in my view (like i mentioned ‘upstairs’) is that the original unit has been trained and equipped for this role. If you banish them to the Binin koni/Illela border and bring in the infantry, you have to start training all over again.
This is why we are constantly on the drawing board and in transition.
Why not a phased introduction of your trusted loyalists into the unit, and then slowly transfer the old operatives to other relevant units as the skills are transferred.
Lets not waste time or resources. This fell swoop change actually degrades security and endangers the head of state!!!
well said
PMB decision to discard of DSS close security detail ( it’s not even yet confirmed by the presidency) could be based on reasons not in public domain. The DSS is not the sole security agency trained in VIP protection even the NPF has trained personnels
Sorry I MEANT
To fish out the still active cell of bombers in the Maiduguri, Yola area.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/urgent-installation-of-equipment-commences-at-military-command-and-control-centre/
Good news for the Nigerian Army.
The infrastructure to destroy bh continues.
I think we have the likes of Elbit on speed dial. NAEME is also working overtime presumably. If we do this kind of thing often enough we will become versed in deploying net enabled air/land command, control at short notice. That is good for verall offensive postuire
Embrae, the Brazilian aircraft manufacture sold over 8 units of Super Tucano aircraft during the recent Paris Air Show., a hand few of them was purchased by Mali. How did we miss this opportunity, besides Helicopter Gunships is the Nigerian air-force nearing extinction?
Talking about gunships:
http://www.trdefence.com/2015/05/19/nigeria-shows-interest-in-t-129-gunship/
I dont think we wanna buy those cos we cld hv and we still cld, the maker is srzly searching for buyers. Mayb the upgraded alpha jest. R considered a viable ground attack option
No NAF was actually tired of the Alpha jets and were requesting several upgrades than top brass belived are not worth putting on +20yrs old converted platform- the Tucano was evaluated along with several other platform to serve training cum COIN roles and was passed for procurement ( this means nothing really-several candidates usually pass this stage) MOU was even signed. Everybody looked forward to delivery but something happened between approval from third party,cost and suitability as 4G trainer and…..everything went silent. later we went back to square one and decided to buy tokunbo COIN optimized version of Alpha jet (with PGM/GPS nav )and also upgrade a few. existing ones….looked to me as if we bought the only thing we could get that will be immediately useful and provide instant succor.
So true Oga Solorex.
NTA News @NTANewsNow 7h7 hours ago
#BREAKING: Over a dozen Boko Haram fighers were killed today near Njaba, Borno state by a unit of Nigerian troops on patrol, DHQ says
NTA News @NTANewsNow 9h9 hours ago
Command & Control Centre in Maiduguri&Yola to become operational in 21 days after installation of hi-tech equipment; DHQ says
Hence the obvious slow down in operations.
Hope they get up and running soon.
I like the fact that the Service chiefs were not hurriedly sacked and replaced. Not sure about the status of the NSA, being an adviser to the previous administration one would want to assume that his appointment would hv been terminated with the end of the administration. So am not sure in what capacity he is working with PMB. NSA or a sort of special assistant?
http://www.punchng.com/business/energy/geometric-power-ge-to-build-1080mw-plant/
This should be treated an Economic. Emergency. Priority. Project. (E.E.P.P.)
Some wise guy regularly sides with racists and haters to spit on our army. His justification is his strange claim to have done so much for Nigeria by building a school, while still young and living in America. He did this before calling others morons and challenging them about “what they had done for Nigeria.”
Very strange.
On the very same day Sir Kay made those claims, I found this article on Nairaland about a YOUNG soldier who fought to keep us safe:
http://www.nairaland.com/2386119/pictures-galliant-soldier-killed-boko
Amos Erekose, you paid the highest price for Nigeria. May your soul rest in peace and may your name always be recalled in the annals of our history.
90% or more of Nigerians have started one or more businesses, there is nothing extraordinary about building a school. It does not even remotely register as a sacrifice.
Again, I ask:
“What is the difference between a “Nigerian” guy who posts defamatory things about Nigeria and a hater like Adam Nossiter of The New York Times?”
If Adam Nossiter was a Nigerian, I wonder what word we would you use to describe him. Perhaps an unprintable string laced with choice expletives.
What should we call our Nigerian Adam Nossiters who look at our faulty national architecture and single out our Generals to be sent to the ICC for the pleasure of those who see no good in the black person?
I hope our debasing bloggers read this and see a semblance of what patriotism is from a sample of folks they say hate the Nigerian military and security agencies
@ Kola Adekola
Amos Erekose’s sacrifice has no bearing on what we are discussing, neither does your ad hominen attack on Sir Kay have any bearing on the topic, Sir Kay raised a point, a point I have belabored on previous posts before AI came out with their most recent report, the AI report just made more people talk about an obvious topic.
The Military Civilian dynamic in Nigeria must change. This is part of COIN strategy, it is a winning strategy when you have the populace on the side of the armed forces. You like links? Here have another. Go on take a minutes and read it.
http://www.nairaland.com/2386197/photos-military-officer-orders-man
To clarify THAT is the kind of behaviour that does not win hearts and minds, and who here wrote that we should send our Generals to ICC? And who hear says we cannot see good in the black polity? Can you read or are you just being deliberately obtuse?
That was two links down from the article on the death of Amos Erekose, did you miss it? Or dont you understand that it is more relevant to the discussion? Your argument for patriotism is like a Pastor in Adultery telling me I should not correct his behavior because Jesus died for me. Do you understand that analogy or are you still on the rah rah Boo yah bandwagon, spouting jingoisms and accusing others of sacrifice or the lack therof when we see no indication you are different.
@Igbi
Please keep on talking, I am actually interested in your deductions on this topic of misrepresentation and online personas.
Some people will actually make good stalkers lol.
Once you don’t fall in line and live in a delusional state, then you are no longer a Nigerian, now you are a CIA spy lol.
Over 175 million of us, and some geniuses expect us all to think alike. This ain’t a cult.
This blog is getting supper comical.
On that link @Roscoe, a comment goes like this
“I pity that man’s wife n kids sha undecided
They might be punished for what they know absolutely nothing about, transfer of aggression iis just inevitable”
Another commenter said ” beware of soldier
See right there, is the mentality i was talking about, in this era, people still believe that a soldier can punish someone’s extended family even when they’ve done nothing wrong.
That is the thinking i was talking about that the military needs to work hard to correct, and let the people know that they shouldn’t be afraid of their men in uniform.
But punks like that soldier, is making that work harder for the military.
That has been what i was saying all along, and some allowed their mouth to catch fire and deny such abuse happen.
The hard work of good soldiers, go in vain, because of that one soldier abusing people ( for example)
I believe some bloggers who comment here are not Nigerians. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the bloggers pretending to be Nigerians were actually white and are pretending to be our compatriots to make themselves more credible. Let us not forget that we have caught some people telling obvious lies. And I am curious as to why a supposed Nigerian who can’t differentiate a Nigerian soldier from a malian soldier or a chadian soldier or a nigerien soldier would have any interest in being a member of a defsec blog which focusses on the Nigerian military. I know the trick some people are playing. Some non Nigerians got interested in Nigerian affairs because of the media coverage, and that incited these folks to flood the social media and pretend to be Nigerians. You can bet what you want that all those white folks commenting on a.i facebook page in matters related to bht are everywhere in the social media pretending to be Nigerians. I wouldn’t be surprised that we have a few of them here.
The phenomenun of foreigners pretending to be your compatriots on social media is something I observed when the libya under kadaffi was being attacked. Suddenly everybody was claiming to be a libyan and many of those were outed.
suddenly it feels like i am in the middle of a war zone
i had to look twice into the URL to check if i had entered defence.pk by mistake.
dont want to preach,
but read the comments all over again with a cool mind to realize what has happened
guess it must be the summer heat and sweat and pissed off GFs 😀
and its spreading fast like H1N1 virus
“The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” George Bernard Shaw
and i hope u all get my point and understood the context of the above quote 😀 😀
and on a funny note
“And God said, ‘Let there be beer!’ And He saw that is was good. Then God said, ‘Let there be light!’ And then He said, ‘Whoa-too much light’.”
hehehe
http://www.thescoopng.com/just-in-chad-carries-out-airstrikes-against-boko-haram-in-nigeria/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
This is a slippery slope Nigeria is going. Even when jonathan was there, i don’t recall any airstrikes by chad on nigerian soil.
And which incursions have Nigeria made into chad, niger or cameroon???
Buhari is letting too many things slide.
And here is the bigger insult…
Even if Nigeria wanted to do anything, Chad’s MiG 29’s has settled this matter already.
This is just depressing.
No radar cover.
No SAM batteries
No JF17
No Sukhoi 30
No air superiority fighters
We have NOTHING.
The people who run this country’s military have let us down.
Infact Chad’s MiG 29’s could have comfortably flown to Aso Rock.
Buzzed the presidential Villa
And no countermeasures would have taken place
SMDH
UNACCEPTABLE !!!.
These fat bellies in the Nigerian defence establishment would have to pay for this. BUHARI, BUHARI, BUHARI. Wake up immediately . I am not afraid of sensorship as i am posting this.
Stop the stupidity business immediately. Go to Moscow now and get the jets, if it is Sweden even better. This is an unacceptable event. Constitutionally it is an act of war for a foreign country to be bombing out insurgents on your territory. Even if we are talking about multi laterality i would rather Nigeria was doing the bombing on other country’s soil. Look at what they have done to the Nigerian airforce, 300km radius is its maximum reach.
No SAM batteries ?
though nigeria has ROLAND SAMs
if the chads mig 29s are anywhere close to mig 29 SMT standard equipped with Helmet Mounted Display System (HMDS) like topsight slaved to Vympel R-73
then the jf 17 will be falling like dead mosquitoes
only the su 30 mki or their derivatives stand a good chance
even gripen if armed with the AIM-120 (AMRAAM) and AIM 9X or AIM-132 ASRAAM
will be able to counter the mig 29.
been complaining abut our lack of/limited air defense for a while ow. its basic when we dont control our air space na trouble go follow. in the alternative maybe chad dey grandstand and even this is true , its still a plausible scenario
The Chadian MIG 29s are no where near top of the line. I believe Roland SAM batteries (if they were working) would have brought them down if they had strayed in a more southerly direction. The Chadian jets are also range limited in terms of hitting actual high value elements of national infrastructure although a massive hydro-electric project is soon to start at Mambila. All in all a bad commentary on the leadership of the NAF and particularly the CDS and shame to all their supporters on this blog. They will not missed.
mig 29k cockpit ,similiar in mig 29 smt
Top Sight-i HMD
mig 29 smt and mig 29 k share many features while i think mig 29 k is better of the 2 but only marginally.
the Mig-29k aircraft is equipped with three multifunctional color liquid-crystal displays (seven LCDs on the MiG-29KUB), a four-channel digital fly-by-wire flight control system, passive anti-radar missile homing system, Sigma-95 GPS receiver, TopGun helmet-mounted targeting system and electronic countermeasures (ECM).
It has provisions for laser-guided and electro-optical bombs, as well as air-to-surface missiles like Kh-25ML/25MP, Kh-29T, Kh-31G/31A, Kh-35U, and rockets. Kh-31P passive radar seeker missiles are used as anti-radiation missiles. Kh-35, Kh-31A antiship missiles are for anti-ship roles. For aerial combat air-to-air missile like RVV-AE, R-27ER/ET and R-73E are fitted.
The MiG-29K has a combination of low-observable technology, advanced electronic-warfare capabilities, reduced ballistic vulnerability, and standoff weapons to enhance the fighter’s survivability. According to Mikoyan, extensive use of radar-absorbent materials reduce the MiG-29K’s radar signature 5 times over the basic MiG-29.
Mig-29k performance :
Speed: Mach 2+ (2,200 km/h, 1,370 mph) / At low altitude: Mach 1.2 (1,400 km/h, 870 mph).
Ferry range: 2,100 km (1,240 mi) / 3,000 km (1,860 mi) with 3 drop tanks
Combat radius : 850km
Service ceiling: 17,500 m (57,400 ft)
Rate of climb: initial 330 m/s, average 109 m/s 0-6000 m (65,000 ft/min)
Wing loading: 442 kg/m² (90.5 lb/ft²)
Thrust/weight: 0.97
@are james
“The Chadian MIG 29s are no where near top of the line”
they are not now but in future they will be upgraded especially if nigeria buys new fighters.
by the way russia has many stored mig 29s they can be upgraded and shipped quickly if asked and would not cost much .
just a food for thought.
Oga Rugged7. I respect your hustle sir.
So let me get this straight, are we getting our panties in a bunch because supposed arerams are dead or because supposedly Chad bombed them? Notice i emphasize supposedly because this information is supposedly from the Chadian military, they are not known to be the bastion of any kind of truth. I would suggest we calm down and at least try to ascertain the motive behind this propaganda. Is it possible for Chad to bomb Nigeria, yes, they have some fighter jets. Can Nigeria reduce the whole of Chad to rubble in 1 week? well 🙂 the answer is in the affirmative, that’s using current reserves only. So why are some people desperately poking Nigeria? why is someone or some group apparently trying to ratchet up tensions between Nigeria and her neighbors? i will repeat for the up-tenth time, it is because they want Nigeria in a war with a neighbor, which neighbor doesn’t matter. Fist it was the multiple suicide blasts in Chad, not claimed by arerams, now we have a supposed retaliatory strike in Nigeria supposedly by Chad 🙂 please, is anyone else connecting the dots here, or am i the only one living outside the box. This is not a war between Chad and Nigeria, some people are desperately trying to make that happen though because that’s the best way to ensure Nigeria enters a war of attrition that will decimate its full fledged economy, this is a war between Nigeria and various puppet masters, these puppet masters are not comfortable with Nigeria’s growing influence, hence they seek to cut it to size, albeit surreptitiously, using proxy.
Oga’s, i believe we can be matured enough to see the clear writings on the wall
Oga Rugged7. i respect your hustle sir.
Yes Oga, we need to continue to improve on our arsenal and equipment all together, but let me make this clear sir. Even if all Nigeria had were its bare knuckles and swift kicks for feet, Chad still aint got sh*t on Nigeria, fact, anyday anytime. Chad? Cameroon? still ruled by dictators in this century says alot
Well wasn’t the President out there in those countries after taking office? Perhaps they had such agreement? Not saying they do, just guessing here, don’t want to be misquoted by the police again.
But any ways, it doesn’t look good.
But i also doubt the president would have given such permission, when he doesn’t even want their soldiers on our soil. So maybe we should wait and hear what our Government has to say.
The current President would never allow the bombing of Nigerian territory by Chad. It is more likely that the story is false and was planted to achieve something or Chad spread the news to their own people to take the shine off Boko Haram’s recent exploits on their triitory .Also, no other news agencies have reported it.
It however all in the realm of possibility given the realities on ground and that is why we are angry at the leaership of the airforce who have done nothing positive since 2008 to change the fortunes of their outfits in spite of clear reasons why they should have.
yes it might well turn out like the 5 Million -> 5 Billion fisco
seriously if obama had stumbled on the 5 billion aid package comments being so seriously debated not long ago, he would suffered a mild heart attack from chagrin.
next day headlines
OBAMA GOES STRAIGHT INTO OBAMACARE :
NATIVE COUNTRYMENS DELIVERS THE 5 billion dollar worth SUCKER PUNCH VIA BEEGEAGLE BLOG
HAHAHA..HEHEE
Oga mcshegz,
Well, Nigeria and chad are not fighting.
But u don’t wait for a handshake to pass the elbow before u acknowledge major threat assessment deficiencies.
No matter how much we sugar coat it.
Nigeria’s air force and strategic air defence has HOLES the size of swiss cheese
Oga Rugged7. I respect your hustle sir.
You are preaching to the choir sir; to say that DHQ need constant upgrade is just common sense, nobody doubts that theory. But anyone insinuating that Nigeria should be afraid of Chad is pure lunacy bordering on kolomentality. No amount of bickering and cajoling would make a wit-full Nigerian ever doubt the might of DHQ as against a conventional Chadian force; this is just comical.
“But u don’t wait for a handshake to pass the elbow before u acknowledge major threat assessment deficiencies.”
I have no idea what you mean sir, major threats from a conventional Chadian force? hehehe, you crack me up oga, this is not news, the so called “battle hardened Chadian forces” could not prevent bombs ripping through their capital.
“Nigeria’s air force and strategic air defence has HOLES the size of swiss cheese”
swiss chesse? hehehe more like geregu dams hehehe…. but that in no way justifies this paranoia that Chad will invade Nigeria, makes no logical sense
McShegz, please be realistic in this matter. What do you have in your arsenal to counter 2 MiG-29s swooping over Aso Rock? Buhari has better stopped this dangerous game he’s playing. Nigeria, Chad and Niger are very different countries. I don’t care about any northern fulani or Islamic alliance (sorry I’m not the least afraid to say this). We are very different, our national, regional and continental interests are different. How can we say we are leading the intervention force and we allow these guys to target federal facilities from the air? This is insane.
Oga Deway. I respect your hustle sir.
“What do you have in your arsenal to counter 2 MiG-29s swooping over Aso Rock?”
“How can we say we are leading the intervention force and we allow these guys to target federal facilities from the air?”
Oga, hehehehe. this hysteria is beyond reason, bombing Aso rock and federal facilities? where do you get your news from?
Agreed we need to arm up.
Sounds like BS, make we siddon look the truth will expose itself.
I hope you all are happy.
The sky is well and truly falling down.
Great work everybody.
Great work.
This is what you wanted.
What we wanted how ? Voting for GMB ? We do not have the capability to do it so let someone do it for us ! We do not know whether this was authorized so don’t be too quick to judgement.
The money this BPP guys chop is even enough for us to get 5 Su 30MK…
Shame Shame Shame
Shame dey ohh
@all
On 29 April 2015, the airfield of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant of the Irkut corporation saw the first flight of another production-standard Yak-130 combat trainer – the lead aircraft of the batch being built
for the Bangladeshi Defence Ministry. The contract, which was made in December 2013, was announced early last year, when Rosoboronexport Director General Anatoly Isaikin said in his interview with the Kommersant daily that 24 Yak-130s were to be supplied to Bangladesh and be paid for using a state credit extended by Russia. Initially, Bangladesh is to receive 16 aircraft of the type. During the recent LIMA 2015 exhibition at the Malaysian island of Langkawi in March this year, Irkut President Oleg Demchenko told the media: “The contract with Bangladesh for 16 Yak-
130 combat trainers is on schedule. 14 Yak-130s will be shipped this year, and in 2016, we will deliver two aircraft more, thus fulfilling the contract”. The shipping of Yak-130 to Bangladesh is slated for June this year.
Bangladesh is the third foreign state to receive Yak-130 combat trainers. Irkut fulfilled its first export
contract for the type in 2011, when the Algerian Air Force took delivery of 16 aircraft of the type. The corporation’s orderbook includes several more Yak-130 orders placed by a number of Middle East nations, but their implementation has been put off for a while due to the current instability in the region.
infact bangladesh also operates mig 29s and f7
and myanmer has inked a contract with the Chinas Aero Technology Import-Export Corp (CATIC) for an initial 12 aircraft along with a cockpit procedures trainer (which might get online at the end of this year) , while retaining the option to procure another 12 at a later date.
Deliveries are to begin in late 2017 and these FC-1s will eventually replace Myanmar’s existing
F-7M and A-5 fighters which had been procured in the late 1980s.
as far as deliveries to pakistan are concerned CAC(Chengdu Aircraft Corp) has delivered 50 JF-17 Block-1s(not sure if all 50 delivered so far) and four JF-17 Block-2s for testing etc, with another 46 JF-17 Block-2s due for delivery by 2020.
except for a few which were delivered in flyable condition the rest were semi-knocked-down (SKD) kits to the Kamra-based Pakistan Aeronautical Complex for final assembly.
have u wondered why there is so many photos of jf 17 flying around while not a single photo/brochures of the jf17 LRUs ,avionics,structural components etc etc,manufacturing jig which have been manufactured in pakistan based manufacturers.(they only show the assembling and static testing jig to all the visiting dignitaries, i wonder who r they fooling LOL 😀 )
***********most importantly CAC (Chengdu Aircraft Corp) is building them at a rate of eight per year****************** the myanmarese jf 17 will be delivered starting late 2017 even if the deal has been concluded recently.
bangladesh and myanmer are enemies and have been arming themselves in a tit-tat manner.
it would be nice to see bangladesh mig 29s and even yak 130s tangle with the burmese jf 17 aka fc-1.
then we can seperate the chaff from the wheat lol
Eight (8) jets per year. It is obvious that China has no interest in this jet either as a military venture or commercial one. JF17 Block 1 has already reached obsolescence immediately after development which is amazing from the point of view of money invested. At the rate of manufacture, JF17 Block 2 will also reach obsolescence soon as rival aircraft and mid-life extensions of existing aircraft /upgrades make them unjustifiable to acquire. I think the SU 30K/33/34 and Grippen should be the objects of focus. There are too many Chinese paper tigers in the aerospace market that we should just be wary.
su 33 ?
i dont think russia is interested in it anymore. it is the naval varient of su 30 series with folding wings for carrier operations.
china got a sample of su 33 from ukraine and reversed engineered it into j 15(or j 16 i am not sure of the name) for its aircraft carriers .
su 34 ?
why would u want that too,it is a fighter/bomber varient more optimized towards long/medium range bombing missions, untill the PAKDA bomber comes online .
and AFAIK recently russia unveiled the new engines for the PAKDA bomber.
the most viable options will be the customized varients of either multi role SU 30 or SU 35.
if u manage to get the SU 35 than i dont think any country from africa atleast is going to give a second thought to any plans about attacking nigeria.
Strong Men Have Destroyed Institutions in Nigeria —BUHARI
President Muhammadu Buhari regretted yesterday that those he regarded as ‘strong men’ have destroyed institutions in Nigeria but promised that his administration would do its best to ensure that institutions bequeathed to the country by the British colonial leaders were restored. The President who spoke in Johannesburg, South Africa while meeting with the Nigerian community there after the African Union meeting also said in spite of what he described as ‘crazy people’ who are trying to ensure the breakup of the country for selfish reasons, Nigeria will remain an indivisible country. His words: “We have a system in Nigeria. No matter what you say about the British colonialists, they built institutions for us, unfortunately we have destroyed those institutions. “When US President, Barack Obama came to Africa which was his first trip, he went to Ghana, but he refused to come to Nigeria. And he said Africa, or developing countries should have strong institutions instead of strong leaders. If he had come to Nigeria, he would have known that it was strong Nigerians that destroyed the strong institutions. And paradoxically, maybe another strong Nigerian will come and revive the institutions and make them strong again.” President Buhari stated that though he would have wished to be president at a much younger age, he would still do his best to ensure that the country moves forward. Speaking on why he joined politics, President Buhari said he wanted to meet the expectations of the teeming masses of the people who had continued to troop to him to request for one favour or the other. He said: “I was afraid Nigeria might be like Somalia. The Somalis are the same people, they are all Muslims but because the elite are self-centered, they have succeeded in making Somalia a war-torn country for the last 20 years. “For that reason I said Nigerians are much more vulnerable, we have so many nationalities no matter how you look at it, Hausa-Fulanis, Kanuris, Ishekiris, Yorubas, Igbos. We are actually people of different cultures but since 1914, we have merged inspite of religion and culture, married across, produced children and only crazy people can think of balkanising Nigeria. But we are not short of crazy people and that is the frightening part of it. Joining partisan politics “In April 2002 when I decided to join Nigeria’s partisan politics, I invited a few people to my ward in Daura, where I told them that I myself and those who knew me in the military would not have believed that I will join Nigerian partisan politics. But there I found myself in it. Two fundamental reasons were responsible for my entry into politics. After being a governor of now six states – Yobe, Borno, Bauchi, Adamawa, Taraba, and Gombe, I was Petroleum Minister under Obasanjo for three and half years, then Head of State, then chairman of PTF. And the most irritating thing was that of all these positions I have held before, people didn’t remember, they only remember my days at PTF because I bought bedsheets and put in hospitals and some x-ray machines and some buses for the schools. They remember me more as chairman of PTF than as a former Head of State, than a governor or a minister of petroleum, in spite of the fact that it was during my time that I signed the contract for Warri refinery, and Kaduna refinery. More than 3,500 pipes were laid with more than 20 depots, we got the tankers off the road, we saved lives, we saved fuel, we save the road itself. But from 1999 till date PDP has messed it up. That is why Nigerians decided to vote me. My election “My election is a proof that Nigerians know what they want once they make up their minds. You can give them the money, some refused to take it, some took it and said it is our money and they did exactly what they wanted to do. “So why did I join partisan politics in spite of that? When I went home people knew that I have no money and I thought they will leave me alone, but they didn’t, they were coming to me asking me to do this and do that. And I found that the only way I could do it is by joining partisan politics. And maybe if I speak even if I’m not a member at any level, people will listen to me. “But then I joined the opposition, I joined APP (All Peoples Party). I didn’t want any political office at first, if I wanted I would have joined PDP then and maybe I would have got to where I am much earlier. But then I wanted to go with the opposition. “The second reason I had that finally convinced me to join partisan politics, was what happened to Soviet Union. “You know the Soviet Union was an empire in the 20th century that collapsed without a shot being fired. Everybody went home, there was confusion. Now there are 18 countries out of the old Soviet Union. They were more advanced than the western countries in science because they wanted to go to space specifically in 1957, and they had more nuclear war heads and systems than NATO. “And that was when I decided and I believed that the best form of governance is multi-party democracy with a big caveat, election must be free and fair. And that was why I was in trouble. I moved from APP to ANPP to CPC, eventually to APC. “I contested in 2003, spent 30 months in the courts and ended up in Supreme Court. I contested in 2007, spent about 20 months in the courts, ended up in Supreme Court. I contested in 2011 and spent about eight months in the courts, all ending up in Supreme Court. Why was I doing it? I know the reason. I believed in it! “In all those cases from High Court to Supreme Court, we sent people to the field, they found out why the elections were not fair, they came to the court and gave evidence but in the end, they will say oh well! There were some flaws in the elections but PDP has won. At last the PDP has lost! “I have gone to this extent to tell you that when you make up your mind about anything positive, don’t be discouraged! Keep on trying! “How I wish I became head of state when I was a governor, just a few years as a youngman, now at 72, there is a limit to what I can do. I was in the war front for 30 months during our civil war, I lost a lot of loyal people to me, I lost a relative, a lot of Nigerians died too. So nobody should come now and tell us rubbish! We are going to remain one country. God has given us another opportunity to reorganise this country. Those who work hard, the society will pay them back” he said. While enjoining Nigerians in South Africa to be good ambassadors of Nigeria, he promised that he will discuss with President Zuma to return Nigeria’s money that was seized from South Africa during the Jonathan administration. “I’m told there are 83 Nigerians in prison, I don’t know what they have done but I spoke to the President of South Africa this afternoon. He wants to come to Nigeria. There are issues he knows we will like to talk about, I hope our ambassador will send a comprehensive report about the court cases, and about those who lost properties during the disturbances. And at that time I will attempt to ask him about our $9.7 million which was not correctly transfered. World leaders ready to assist Nigeria President Buhari also said he has spoken with world leaders and they are ready to assist Nigeria tackle the insurgency problems in the country. “I met Obama, President of France, Chancellor of Germany, Prime Minister of Japan and members of the G7, they invited me and I went. They are all anxious to help Nigeria to tackle insecurity especially in the north east “We are getting our facts together, our logistics requirements and so on. For the north east, the Lake Chad Basin Commission – Nigeria, Chad, Niger, Cameroon and Benin, have tried to come in. We have developed headquarters in Njamena, a Nigerian General is heading it, we have dedicated a number of troops ourselves and the location where they will be and by the end of July they will be in place and then we will make sure that since Niigeria was a battle ground we eliminate Boko Haram” he said.
http://dailytimes.com.ng/strong-men-have-destroyed-instititutions-in-nigeria-buhari/
Dude, please this is a DEFSEC forum. Things like senators wardrobe allowances and political statements that have no immediate bearing on defence can be a distraction, especially when posted repeatedly and outside context.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spamming
@Sir Kay.. Much respect.
err, the thing long small (we can say our mind with humor and respect na) no disrespecting, Buhari had a good point tho, we need strong institution’s that can survive bad leaders
yea, Man went on and on lol, should have just posted the link, ha. But its all good, people spend days arguing about silly stuff on here anyways.
@Kola. Perhaps you should read the whole damn thing before running your mouth, or better yet get a rope, you know what to do with it.
Yes it was a long article, thought of cutting out the irrelevant piece out, then again didn’t want to be accused of posting incomplete stuff.
Funny how people can spend the whole day throwing punches on this blog, but this doesn’t belong here.
Get a life dude.
If it bothers you, gladly don’t read it.
Again bro, it is a DEFSEC blog. Posting out of context politics and strange campaigns is unfair to others.
The About page of this blog reads; “Perspectives of a Nigerian on Defence and Security, Geopolitics and Strategic Studies.”
Please, read the following article, thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
And again moron, get a life.
The President talked about security in the link i posted. In case your brain couldn’t catch that.
Are you on your period or something? Get some rest. I’m not the troll, you are, because now you are becoming a cheap stalker. For someone who claimed to be an adult, you are acting childish.
one day ago or so, someone posted a link about GE building power stations in Nigeria, where were you then? You have no issues with that, but this you have issues with?
How do you expect any one to respect you by acting like a kid that you are.
Stop trying to be a bully, people have posted stories about Dangote on here, no one went crazy about it. Grow up and stop being a troll. Idiot.
The day i see your name on here as the owner, i will gladly leave, but until then, please mind your own business, not hard to do, try it.
And if you need someone to bully, get a wife, because here, I’m the wrong guy to do that with. I don’t deal with kids and can’t be bullied by some irrelevant dude.
Why can’t people move on? lord
So keep at it, i enjoy the laugh. I will continue to post and leave comments, don’t hit your head on the wall too hard.
For emphasis, this is a DEFSEC blog.
…if you think wives are for bullying, then it fits within a particular unwholesome pattern which others can observe, sir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-social_behaviour
Use your tampon and get some rest kid.
Oga Kola Adekola, you are one of the principled and intelligent people on this blog. Francly some bloggers like this person calling himself sir are disgraceful and deserve no attention. They have no principles and no manners. In this case we have a lying unprincipled coward calling himself sir. The best would be to ignore such wasts who call themselves sir. I wonder if this megalomaniac calling himself sir will one day grow wisdom and understand how not only to behave but to reason and if he will one day learn principles which would make his presence less undesirable.
I see someone came back to whine. You never question a man’s loyalty or integrity, or their nationality if you don’t know them. There is 2 of you, 5 ppl support me here, that tells you something. I’m not some arrangant jerk who threatens to leave the blog each time no one bows to his opinion. Grow up or get treated like a child.
And stop being a troll. In my world, you are irrelevant.
As long as beegs haven’t told me to leave, i will keep leaving comments and stand up for what i believe in, if you don’t like that, throw away your computer.
Free world. I won’t come back to this again, you two wanna keep whinning, go ahead, I’m done with this childish rant.
And oh, sir kay is a nickname, don’t hurt yourself . And if you know anything about integrity, you won’t act weird all the time.
How many ppl have you fought with on this blog? Probably every one. You are the undesirable, not me. Take your meds and get some rest. See ya below
At least he’s figured out that Germany is no longer West Germany.
Continue raising your hopes about this senile old vassal with a petty ego.
It’s the poor, naive souls who actually believe the ridiculous narrative sold to them that I’ll feel sorry for in the end.
As for the ones here, anything your eye sees, take it like that. Shebi you’re looking for a messiah on a chariot instead of a leader.
You’ve found one. Enjoy the gory car crash in High Definition.
The next time David Axelrod and AKPD choose a President for you, you’ll still fall for it because you’re that unintelligent.
I wish you interesting times.
Nawa oooooo!!! Na real wa!!
And your point is what exactly Oga.
Mud-slinging and name calling is the lowest a supposed sensible and wit-full human-being can go. How does that further your cause of making a concise point, if that’s your aim at all. OBviously there’s no point to be made here but conspiracies as to the emergence of Nigeria’s president. Democracy means that people are free to choose who their leaders are, irrespective of you personal opinions about them, that’s the freedom we enjoy in Nigeria, so if anyone prefers a theocracy or a dictatorship they can travel to Chad or Angola.
Oga Dario. I respect your hustle sir.
Well Put @ Oga Shegz. We gotta understand that a different opinion does nt amount to stupidity. (sometimes it does though, laffs)
Choi , see beef against the Buhari… The guy carry your money run? Man , the way you dey vex no get extra time o. Abeg no too vex, we don finish vote, inauguration don happen and its best we rally round and move Naija foward.
If the presido mess up , we will be here to critique him, no use haranguing the polity over past decisions.
Some hawks on this blog simply thrive on silly fear mongering and paranoid rather than balanced, well grounded thinking. To be honest, if certain people on here have their way the would rather see Nigeria dragged inyo needless ego wars than tackle the issues and conflicts that matter.
Don’t worry.
Shebi it’s a matter of time?
We will all see what will happen with our own eyes.
There’s no need to waste saliva.
We dey siddon look.
I don’t think you know half of what you are saying. This is just a lot of half informed political thrash. The new President you are talking about started handling leadership at a young age. Not theoretical, book leadership but actual practical human leadership as a student of a military secondary school. Practical leadership of a battalion during the civil war, NA division GOC, state governor, federal minister in his thirties, head of state, oil money funded infrastructure projects implementer during the Abacha regime. To be honest with you very few people are familiar now with Nigerian institutions and the arcane minutiae of governance in Nigeria like this guy. He is also transformative in personality and has some integrity. The people who queued behind him in the rulling party are some of the smartest politicians Nigeria ever threw up and they had to do it to save the necks of their class be sure things were going to explode anyway. The very last week of the departed administration, we were shown a glimpse of just what rot they were hiding; fuel scarcity, no light, no fuel and unpaid salaries going into months. Refineries that were dead are now been refurbished and for the first time we have a set date for the resumption of local supply of petroleum products equal to 25% of our consumption. This was a vindication of what the new President said – “Nigerian institutions have the knowledge and capability for efficient and corrupt free operations in their charters, company manuals and general civil service procedures , they are just not following them because of corruption”
..And David Axelrod did not choose a President for Nigeria, the ‘smart politicians’ I spoke about earlier only brought those firms in to do “packaging”. What they did is not even up to what MTN, GLO and Dangote do everyday on the airwaves.
It’s spelt “trash” not “thrash”.
I didn’t read the rest.
@Dario dont you think it is the lowest of low to disparage your president on a matured forum. this is not a gossip blog. I am sure you are not wiser or more patriotic than millions of Nigerians that gave him their vote. its better you critic any of the government policies you are not fine with instead of insulting his person.
Although when GEJ was president, many on this blog (including yourself) took a shot at him. He was equally voted in by Nigerians.
My Oga’s, I believe Chad is at their usual best, lying again. However, the international press has taken up the story like a wildfire at a time we seem to be most disorganised.
There are schisms between the DSS and the new President, schisms between the army and the new President.
There are also eye candy actions; like moving the Military High Command to Maiduguri and upsetting the command structure of the army.
Our security apparatus seems to be in turmoil, which coincides with a very dramatic slowdown in operations/successes against boko haram as compared to the tempo a few weeks ago.
Also, at a time all hands and equipment are needed for total war against boko haram in the NE, there is very embarrassing news of helicopter gunships being used recklessly over the past three days in the Niger Delta, against the dens of mere kidnappers and pirates. This speaks of tyranny and misplaced priorities.
The opportunist in Idris Deby has seen this as a cracks to slip through and air his big mouth.
In theses crucial times, we need to be buckling down, NOT running around in circles and either being very busy doing nothing, or doing the wrong things with pride. The Idris Deby’s of this world exist to take advantage of misplaced footsteps.
https://www.facebook.com/DefenceInfoNG?fref=nf
NO CHADIAN AIR STRIKES CONDUCTED IN NIGERIA
The claim that the Chadian military have conducted air strikes against six terrorist camps in Nigeria is not correct.
The fact is that the Nigerian Air Force surveillance mission identified targets tagged as Camp 6 around Bosso town which is not within Nigeria’s territory and alerted the partners accordingly. The places reported to have been struck by the Chadian are therefore most likely to be in Niger Republic and not Nigeria as widely reported in the international media.
Although the terms of the multilateral and bilateral understanding with partners in the war against terror allow some degree of hot pursuit against the terrorists, the territory of Nigeria has not been violated as insinuated in the reports circulated in some foreign media.
The Nigerian military will continue to cooperate with partners in the mission to exterminate or contain terrorists strictly in conformity with existing terms of the Concept of Operation at strategic, operational or tactical levels.
It is however important that issues are accurately reported while avoiding misleading or unnecessary sensationalism from any quarter.
But then in the BBC interview, oga kolade goes ahead to at worst-contradict this statement or at best obfuscate matters even further
https://soundcloud.com/bbcafrica/nigeria-aware-of-chads-air-strike?ocid=socialflow_twitter
I think he gave the interview before being briefed.
People expect spokespersons to know everything every time. The General didn’t know if such a strike took place and had to talk in the hypothetic. Well that is one of the difficulties of being a spokesman.
Oga Rugged7. I respect your hustle sir.
I’m still trying to decide whether some human beings genuinely decide to act abd speak as ignorantly as possible or whether its just a fact of life that even when confronted with palpable truth some human beings still decide not to pay any mind to such facts and proceed with their already concluded false narratives. How else can one explain such blatant warp of factual evidence given by DHQ. How does one explain having an opinion before certain facts come to light and still despite these certain facts, human beings still stick to previous lines of reasoning even though their earlier opinions and the current facts clearly contradict each other; how hard could it be to say, i jumped the gun, i was misled, i’m sorry.
When i talk about emotions and ego, and how they ruin the perspective of a sane individual, i speak no lie. Its best advised that humans chock ego’s and emotions aside when dealing with real sensitive issues lest we have this kind of situations on our hands; A human being caught with his pants down still claiming to be fully clothed.
I suggest everyone listen to DHQ’s statement and come to their conclusion as to whether a clear delineation wasn’t made as to hypothetical’s and the real MNJTF with the mandate to eliminate arerams wherever they are found in all nations involved. This is the level of corporation we enjoy with out neighbors, in order to curb this menace.
So to finish with, the bbc interview happened before General Olukolade was briefed, the journalist tried to catch him off guards and have him say what they wanted to hear. Indeed the journalist would make a lot of money and become famous if a catastrophy unfolded. The General talked well and avoided the traps of the journalist, and a paper was produced after the General was briefed. Conclusion: no chadian air strike took place on Nigerian soil.
No Chadian airstrikes conducted in Nigeria according to Defence HQ
So if dey did? Wetin for happen bros? Wetin NAF for do?
That is the intelligent man’s question. That is the whole point of having an office in the DHQ called policies and plans. That is the entire purpose of defensive scenario planning.
Some people seem to not be very familiar that Nigeria and niger are two different countries, I don’t know how many times we have to repeat it to them. Perhaps niger should consider changeing its name.
Some people seem to not be very familiar with the fact that Nigeria and niger are two different countries, I don’t know how many times we have to repeat it to them. Perhaps niger should consider changeing its name.
Diplomacy is a kind of strength and war is diplomacy by other means. If Chad is not making over passes on Nigerian Airspace right now, it is because Debby pays some respect not because of consequence
I refuse to engage in your discussion and I don’t understand what your comment has to do with what I posted.
There were very strong rumours that the last govt was purchasing Su-27’s or Su-30’s. Does anyone know if there are movements forward, numbers, delivery dates etc?
The size of our economy and population demand that we be lords of West Africa, Central Africa and the Sahara. Anything less is unacceptable.
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Welcome back
There are trepidation’s in my mind going by recent events unfolding. I jumped for joy when hard line Bunari was elected President, finally Nigeria will have a clear, concise and proactive foreign policy. This is the man who famously said on CNN that it was a ”disgrace” for Nigeria to have to rely on Chadian troops to do our fighting for us, even inside Nigerian territory. Its been weeks and so far all weve heard from him is ”At 72 there is a limit to what i can do”. barely a week ago Buhari was in Chad, yet smear campaigns (weather true or false) against Nigeria’s war efforts continue unabated from Chad. The biggest supply route via Nigeria and Chad and Northern Cameroon is still occupied by Chadian forces with no oversight whatsoever by the Nigerian government or Intelligence agency. Nearly a month after being sworn in Mr President is yet to assemble his Cabinet, he barely even just moved into the President Villa, at this rate it will take months for him to even devise a clear strategy to defeat Boko Haram and protect Nigeria’s territorial integrity.
Diplomatic niceties aside it is disturbing to see that many Nigerians consider Chad an ally or a partner in Nigeria’s war on terror. Cameroon, which happens to be our major geopolitical foe in the region will dare not go this far to antagonize Nigeria. Why should the President of a country divulge information on operations(true or false) to the Press again without consultations with the Nigerian government. The most annoying thing is when people express their concerns and suspicions of Chadian operations on here many here are quick to call them ”war mongers”.
April 2014 :
After Paul Biya rejected Nigeria’s request to pursue fleeing Boo Haram terrorists deep inside Cameroonian territory, Nigerian forces success=fully route out Boko Haram terrorists and inflicts heavy casualties on them. Reports of hundreds of Boko Haram fighters killed everyday became common news. With a final offensive being planned 300 Boko Haram fighters voluntarily surrendered to Nigerian troops. Days later it was reported that various factions of the Boko Haram sect had taken to fighting each other and 30 were reported killed.
Mid April 2014:
Chadian strongman Idris Derby called for a ”cease fire” claiming negotiations with Boko Haram to release the 200 kidnaped girls were underway. Automatically Dictator General became Diplomat General. A phantom ”Boko” representative was said to be in negotiations with the government. With the media attention on the kidnapped girls growing it would have been suicide to reject this peace plan and consequently Nigeria called off its planned major offensive and sent delegates to Chad. Even Alex Badeh, an air chief marshal and chief of defence staff, later addressed the press asking Nigerians forces to ceasefire because of the “agreement”, which he said included releasing the 219 Chibok schoolgirls in Boko Haram captivity
Exactly 6 days later Boko Haram went from a defeated, demoralized and wounded foe to a rejuvinated murderous sect. Indeed Boko Haram became more ferocious in their attacks, taking over more Nigerian towns, including the country home of our chief of air staff. The man who called for forces to withdraw. It is no secrete that before then our government was trying to verify the authenticity of Boko Haram’s representatives in the supposed negotiations, but Déby asked the Nigerian government to take a chance that he had done the verification already. He affirmed that Boko Haram’s representatives were truly standing in for the group in the negotiations.
Events on the ground were a sharp contrast to what Chad had promised Nigeria. A Nigerian delegation left for Chad on October 21 for talks with Boko Haram, but the Chadian president became evasive. The Nigerian delegation was told that Déby was sick and that the meeting be rescheduled for October 23. As events will unfold on that date, the delegation was told that the Chadian president was still sick after waiting for six hours. The delegation made visits to Chad a number of times, but met a brick-wall. Imagine Africa’s superpower being relegated to ridicule and clandestine setup.
In the last days of October a French journalist reported that $500,000 was paid in ransom to Boko Haram for the release of several hostage, one of whom was a Cameroonian minister, and two French citizens. And who was the mediator? of course Diplomat General Idris Derby.
This gentlemen, this was the defining hour and this was when Jonathan with his gross incompetence made a fool of himself and Nigeria and sold us out. From then henceforth Chad knows it has nothing to fear from Nigeria.
November 2014
A Cameroonian investigative journalist, Bisong Etahoben, reported to a French magazine that President Idris Derby’s political aid, Mr. Gnoti was arrested on the Chadian Sudan border with 19 surface to air missiles bound for Nigeria. Detained and feeling abandoned Mr. Gnoti claimed that President Idriss Déby gave him the funds to purchase the weapons, he had waved a presidential pass issued to him by Mr. Deby’s office in order to get past border guards but was stopped and searched by the guards who found the missiles on him. Imagine these missiles in the hands of Boko Haram, our fleet of MI-24 gunships and Alpha Jets will be blown out of the sky like flies. The arrest of Mr. Gnoti, confirmed evidence that the Chadian President is largely behind Boko Haram lightning insurgency in Nigeria’s northwest. This coming barely a month after Mr. Derby swindled the Nigerian government of millions of dollars in a failed attempt to negotiate the release of over 200 Chibok kidnapped.
January 2015
Hundreds of Chadian ground forces crossed into Nigeria and engaged Boko Haram in the Town of Gamboru. They were backed by airstrikes and amoured vehicles. No matter how you put it this is a clear invasion, akin to a declaration of war but as usual Mr Jonathan to savce face claimed the Chadian attack was part of an agreed framework to join forces in its battle against Boko Haram. LIE !! To add insult to injury Chadian president Idriss Deby countered the claim made by Nigeria and insisted that Chad unilaterally decided upon the much celebrated committed war against Boko Haram this January, the resolute action not being the decision of Nigeria’s Jonathan and with the Nigerian president even stalling the process at every turn. (If this is not an act of war sending military forces into a sovereign country without permmision, then i dont know what is).
There are myriads of events that indicates clandestine operations by Chad to manipulate events and support Boko Haram and for some ”WEIRD” reason no body takes it up, heck our government never even admits. With all the resources spent, alliances made and heavy casualties inflicted on Boko Haram we are no where near a comprehensive victory and despite all these we still hace Chadian troops occupying the same area where arms and supplies can be smuggled in with no chance of detection. We have 5 satellites in Space but they must be in some strike action or something, I do not understand how a Nigerian satellite can be the veru first satellite to take photos of the area flooded by Hurricane Katrina yet we cannot use them to spot nefarious activities along our border.
Yet many here see Chad as a partner in Nigeria’s war against Boko Haram.
May God help us.
Indeed many waters have go under the river. Mr Kola here keeps in mind a reminder of the dangerous game of Nigeria is entangled in
To defeat Boko Haram we MUST go to war with Chad. Now i am speaking in figurative terms. To defeat Boko Haram we must get Chadian saboteurs out of the country, but of course we know that wont happen, this is perhaps the one reason Nigeria has not openly called for Chadian forces to move out because they wont and we will have to fight them sooner or later anyways. Until Nigeria assert her territorial right and launch attacks deep inside Chadian territory and depose Idris Derby from power this war will go on for years. We must secure our perimeter but we cannot do that with Derby still in power.
Before you all launch your barrage of artillery on me i urge you to think outside the box.. cut the being political correct crap. WE ARE AT WAR whether we choose to admit or deny it. We can only keep kicking the can but that will be delaying the inevitable. Our military is modernizing but backed by France the Chadians are modernizing even faster.
General Oje, so, you know about France, yet you want us to go to war with a “tiny” country like Chad?
Heheh! “Look before you leap” is a very wise maxim.
Even without powerful nations hiding in Chads shadow, what does Nigeria have to gain by bullying smaller countries and courting an image similar to a wife-beater? Idris Deby is just one man, whereas Chad is a country of 13million people. Oga Oje, it is better to deal with one enemy than to create 13million on our doorstep.
Nigerian Army (HQ) @HQNigerianArmy 4h4 hours ago
The claim that the Chadian military have conducted air strikes against six terrorist camps in Nigeria is not correct
@DefenceInfoNG
http://www.voanews.com/content/nigeria-military-to-address-accusations-of-rights-abuses/2828155.html
Nigeria: MCCC to Interface Between Nigerian Military, Multi-National JTF – Army
http://allafrica.com/stories/201506181432.html
I’ll ask Zuma about $9.3m botched arms deals – Buhari
http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/index.php/news-menu/news/57466-i-ll-ask-zuma-about-9-3m-botched-arms-deals-buhari
Thought the money was already returned, na wao
Oga Saleh, I am the one who should thank you. You defeded Nigeria, you put your life on the line to defend Nigeria, it is thanks to the sacrifice of people like you that I am alife today. As a Nigerian I thank every Nigerian soldier, their sacrifice will never be forgotten. Thank you.
“defended”
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.fr/2012/08/amnesty-international-is-us-state.html
Besides I think it is time to disengage from the icc, indeed its biggest defenders and its home base are not compliant of it. That makes it a mere political tool for the westerners to do what they want with African countries. Nigeria needs to be fully independent,
Fact, we should Pull out of the ICC. America is nt a member neither is isreal. There are countries whose citizens wld never appear b4 the court. In any case it treats the accused like 5-star things. We have a criminal justice system (its nt perfect but its there) we can and will try our citizens who commit crimes against humanity. As for AI……I just stick my tongue at them. we deal with our forces our own way!!
Very childish idea.
Disagree with me if you will…but there is no reason for obvious or veiled insults!
You guys should learn to be a little more intellectual in your reactions. Off the cuff rants devoid of reasoning is just cheapening this blog. ICC is the ultimate defender of poor African individuals, communities and ethnically nationalities from corrupt governments and western institutions. Nigerians have been in the top most leadership ranks of this organization. A lot of its judgements have been against dictators , genocide perpetrators and looters of national treasuries . There are a few international courts and arbitration organizations that the Niger Delta communities have been especially fond of, they have brought spectacular judgements against Shell and other oil companies. Judgements that would not be possible locally. If you say you don’t know that 3/4 of Nigeria judges were on the take then you have my contempt. You are a coward and a liar. Take a boat to Nembe or the interior parts of Akwa Ibom and talk to community youth leaders, they will give you the names of lawyers who will tell you interesting things about your country’s judicial system.
It is important for most commentators on this blog to develop familiarity with this country they clam to love so much. Go home often and examine the country’s problem dispassionately. When this is done, then do some original thinking about how to solve problems ….instead of shooting at everything like kids who are angry at something but don’t know what and are just crying aloud.
So in addition to what I said earlier and in agreement with PMB’s statement, strengthen our institutions and you wont need ICC
So in addition to what I said earlier and in agreement with PMB’s statement, strengthen our institutions and you wont need ICC @ least Naija wont
From what you are saying, @ least concerning Nigeria, it is our failings as a state that has led to the need to resort to ICC for communities to get compensation for the activities of oil companies. So we need to get it right @ home.
Yes. There is collective humanity. The rising spate of US state police and county sheriffs perpetrating extra judicial killings on blacks in the US offends our sensibilities as much as the water wells filled with human corpses that we saw in Rwanda.
The system worked in the states, it would not have worked in Rwanda with the tribe responsible for that genocide filling up judicial positions and the majority tribe in power.
There must always be a respite for the poor and oppressed in any society and if that fails such individual(s) should fall upon collective humanity.
When you speak against ICC in a local, parochial pseudo patrotic rant you are removing a symbol of human evolution and continuous improvement.
U like to let it rip dont u? Obviously u hv no respect for another opinion dt differs from urs due to ur intellectual “prowess”. In dt light I leave u to ur opinion
ICC is a political tool in the hand of the westerners, it alloows them play with heads of state in Africa. I think you are confusing your dogma with intelect. You believe ICC is “good”. But then ask yourself why its biggest defenders do not give it authority over them. It is getting tiring to listen to some people who think the solution for Nigeria is less independence. The people who think that there is a wrstern court which would defend them are living under a slave mentality. So I think @arejames that you should know what kind of person you are instead of thinking that defending western domination of black people through a western kangooroo court is “intellectual”. But I guess this is because you haven’t fully learnt that education doesn’t belong to the west, you are still under the illusion that defending the west is defending education, that if you want to learn science, you first have to dedicate yourself to defending western interests. Let us try and not confuse everything. Nigeria is a capable country made up of capable individuals, and it is Nigerians who will rule Nigeria. All deccisions about Nigeria will take place through the will of the Nigerian people, Nigeria needs no western court to have authority iver Nigeria.
over Nigeria
Why are you confusing yourself so much?. I am really getting worried. Every country has its issues. I have torn the American political culture with its lobbyists, special interests and mainstream media agenda to pieces on this blog many times. That country almost destroyed itself in a war in Iraq costing trillions of dollars based on LIES and nobody in the world keeps quiet about it.
I have also called the UK ossified, nasty, cunning many times. South Africa has serious leadership and followership problems and we have discussed it many times.
Not facing Nigeria’s problem of corruption and idiots in leadership positions is indulging in denial. Face facts; a very corrupt governor for instance could not be successfully tried in Nigeria and is in prison in the UK. Thousands of people have their human rights trampled upon everyday. Woman are raped behind police station counters on a daily basis after been detained on trumped up charges. You are bringing all these things we hide from the world out in the open because of your stiff necked attitude.
ICC is a very very important body. If the west is using it against the third world there are things to do about it but dont throw the baby out with the bath water. You may need the ICC in future
Lieutenant General Abdulrahman Dambazau (rtd) is on a mission. The former army chief has old scores to settle and he just simply can’t wait for the little nicety of President Muhammadu Buhari appointing him into an office before he starts. He has a team of men with institutional memory of the federal government.
Lawal Musa Daura, a former Director in the State Security Service (SSS) who Nigerian Times learnt is embittered with his former employers over his retirement, Abdullahi Mai-Kano; another retired SSS officer who got booted out by Col Aare’s administration for failing several tests.
These people who have launched a war of revenge on the Department of State Services (DSS) also allege that the leadership of the security outfit were not disposed to Buhari’s candidature against former President Goodluck Jonathan in the last presidential election.
As a result of this, Nigerian Times learnt that they embarrassed the Director General of the DSS, Ita Ekpeyong when they turned him back from a meeting with the service chiefs last Friday at the Villa.
Dambazzau particularly told him he was not invited for the meeting and should leave. Nigerian Times also learnt that if he had not gone, they would have labelled him as a disloyal man.
A source in the Villa with a clear view of the emerging power relations, told Nigerian Times that these people are so powerful that they decide on some issues and implement them without consulting the President. The first major error they made is the ban they put on AIT for “the role it played during the campaign before the elections”.
Recall that this act brought heavy bashing on the president from Nigerians of all class. “Eventually it left the president embarrassed because they never anticipated that the action would generate so much controversy,” the source explained.
Pushing their war against the DSS further, the group rejected and caused to be turned back a set of newly posted personnel to replace those who worked with President Jonathan. But refusing Ekpeyong entry to a security meeting with the President has been their biggest statement of intent yet.
It is routine for the service to replace its men who protects the President anytime there is a new Head of State with new personnel.
It is a common thing if a president completes his tenure or not continuing to send new people to the villa to replace the old ones, however these men prefer to use private body guards to protect President Buhari.
Presidential protection by body guards are the responsibility of secret service worldwide and constitutionally belongs to the DSS in Nigeria.
“Sadly, because of bad blood drawn during campaign, this group of people deliberately imposed men of NAIC (Nigeria Army Intelligence Corps) who are not trained for that purpose as the Presidential bodyguards. They are planning to discredit Mani the Chief Security Officer in front of the President in order to bring in Mai-Kano who despite being a retired SSS man is touted as not qualified for the post because the rank from which he was retired is not commensurate with the post” the source told Nigerian Times.
The source also said, “They are said to be uncomfortable with the appointment of Femi Adesina as the Presidential spokesperson. To this end, they have resorted to indirectly make him to be redundant, knowing fully well he may decide to resign because of personal integrity. This is noticeable in the discrepancies sometimes in press statements issued with those of Garba Shehu their preferred spokesperson.
“The powerful trio are empowering workers of a private company that was used to provide security for General Buhari before his election to have free access to villa and even be part of the BGs to PMB. The implication is that this may endanger the president and expose him to attacks.
“Another massive error being committed by these people is the appointment of unqualified people to sensitive positions in the presidency. This is evident by the poor preparation and inadequate briefing of the president before he visited the G7 summit where he referred to Germany as Western Germany. PMB would have been properly groomed for the meeting if handled by professionals.
“Putting wrong people in wrong positions because they worked for the actualisation of PMB’s presidency will highly impact negatively on his administration. A case in point is the planned appointment of one of theirs as the DG SSS. They should have other means of compensation rather than toying with sensitive government institutions.”
The Punch recently reported that arrangements have been concluded for the Nigerian military to take over the activities of the Strike Force, which is a special security outfit saddled with the responsibility of protecting the President and the seat of power and currently comprises only officials of the DSS.
Another source who spoke to the newspaper said a Lieutenant who will be leading 21 other military personnel had already been transferred to the Strike Force with an instruction to take over from the DSS officials.
He said, “DSS officials are the ones that have been serving in the Strike Force. “With this development military personnel will take over from them henceforth.
“We are aware that the situation is causing a palpable tension as there is a possibility of a showdown. But we are working hard to ensure that the situation did not degenerate.”
Operatives attached to the Strike Force are always trained abroad on counter-assault and other techniques aimed at making their jobs easier.
In explaining their duties, the source said its operatives were the ones former President Olusegun Obasanjo erroneously referred to as snippers in his widely-publicised open letter to former President Goodluck Jonathan.
Another official, who is aware of the arrangement, also said that machinery had also been put in place to change the new Presidential Villa’s Administrative Officer, who was deployed by the DSS about two weeks ago and replaced with a military officer.
He said all DSS officials currently serving inside the Presidential Villa were not sure of their fate yet.
“The truth is that we are not sure of anything yet. Whichever way, we will only act based on signals from our headquarters whether to leave or remain inside the Villa,” he said.
Meanwhile, a major disagreement broke out on Friday between DSS officials drafted from the Presidential Villa, Abuja to the National Mosque, Abuja and some officials of the private security firm earlier referred to.
http://nigeriantimes.ng/news/vendetta-dambazau-shuts-dss-boss-out-of-security-meeting/
You can all continue deceiving yourselves here. Deep down, we all know EXACTLY what has happened. We’ll just keep watching.
I thought it was earlier elaborated that DSS primary constitutional duty is not presidential security. Most of the other security agencies have personnels trained in VIP protection. We do not have an agency like the SS in US. The DSS is actually a semblance of the FBI while the NIA is like the CIA. Who provides the presidential security in Nigeria is the perogative of the man in the seat. If he decides to use any agency even NSCDC or a combination it doesn’t matter. I don’t know why you think Dambazau has so much influence in PMB decision making.
I think it is a good idea to keep these people in view, they are the first usual suspects if the current administration is going to go the Abacha route. There is an ongoing attempt to ‘broaden’ the Dambazzau guy with PMB taking him on some high profile trips with world leaders but we will see how things play themselves out on how lessons are imbibed.
Let the military and Dambazau whatever leave the SSS to the the job they have been doing well for years!!!!
The DSS in my opinion has not been doing it’s job very well it is telling that PMB refused to give them a vote of confidence when it mattered the most which was his personal security. IMHO the DSS needs to do two things 1).Do a better job HUMIT wise in terms of tracking down suicide cells with their Armourer before they strike which is Very , Very difficult. 2) They honestly need to stay out of Politics. I can only speak for myself as an Individual if I were President I would keep them at arms length till my NSA and CSO has had time to review the files of the Top Hierarchy of the DSS. A Similar situation has/is being played out here in the US where there have been embarrassing Security lapses on the part of the US Secret services,among the casualties of this has been the Director who was forced to resign. Don’t know what is going to happen with the DSS but it is not going to be Biz as usual just my thinking.
Egbon Jimmy…by job i mean taking care of either the President or Governors….they have done very well in that role…I do not believe PMB should change that now…let him focus on the military.
Aburo mi I actually agree with you on that point of protection of the President and Govs should be handled by the DSS. I believe in due course as PMB settles down into ASO Rock that it will eventually happen…….but just like what happened with the embarrassing behavior of the US Secret Service expect some leadership changes at the DSS.
rumors trending on nairand is that Nigerian airforce pilot seen wearing Zsh-7 oxygen mask and russian winter flight suit.
I’ve seen the picture. The pilot’s name ‘Yakubu’ is written on the mask in Russian.
LWKMD saw it too
He might be training for things to come
The picture posted by none other than our Chief Henry is titled ‘Nigerian Airforce F7 pilot’. But i have questions. Why is the pilot in a the winter flight suit. Why is his name in Russian? Hmmmmmm!
US: Nigeria will Be Great Again
“On insurgency in Nigeria, Entwistle said: “No other country of the world is doing more than US is doing in the fight against insurgency in Nigeria. I have spoken to the new administration on new ways of fighting insurgency. We have been helping in fighting Boko Haram insurgents for years and we will continue to assist the country in that fight, I can assure you.””
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/us-nigeria-will-be-great-again/212487/
Sounds like a dig at us. Great again. okay
Nigeria’s right to sovereignty is not open for debate. President, get us out of the icc rubish.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/06/children-raped-castrated-thrown-into-fires-in-south-sudan-un/
We will continue to educate you. It is not mathematical analysis or number theory.
Let Sudan develop its civil institutions quickly and give the west the one finger salute. Until then…..
Nigeria’s right to sovereignty is not open for debate. President, get us out of the icc rubish.
http://www.metronaija.com/2015/06/photo-nigerian-soldier-and-little-girl.html?m=1
It is going to take unconscious acts like this that is going to improve the Image of the Nigerian Army.
Thank you Oga Saleh for providing this picture.
Nice 1.