ANADOLU AGENCY
11 October, 2014
By Anne Mireille Nzouankeu
YAOUNDE
The Cameroonian Presidency said Saturday that 27 hostages held by suspected Boko Haram militants have been released. The presidency said in a statement that the freed hostages include ten Chinese workers and the wife of Cameroon’s Vice-Prime Minister Amadou Ali.
The statement, however, gave no further details about the hostages’ release. The hostages had been captured by suspected Boko Haram militants in May and July on the border with Nigeria.
Nigeria’s Boko Haram militant group has been blamed for several earlier cross-border attacks in Cameroon.Boko Haram, which means “Western education is forbidden” in Nigeria’s local Hausa language,first emerged in the early 2000s preaching against
government misrule and corruption.
The group later became violent, however, following the death of its leader in 2009 while in police custody. In the five years since, the shadowy sect has been blamed for numerous attacks on places of worship and government institutions, along with thousands of deaths.
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wife of Cameroon’s Vice-Prime Minister was said to have been released months ago.it was widely reported in the press,now am sure the Cameroon ppl paid money
Thought some people claimed that the wife of the cameroonian vice president was released by that country’s Special forces? How come she’s been released again and by BH?
I guess we should expect a new wave of BH offensive because arms and money would obviously have being used to secure the release. Strange when our Govt says Cameroon is with us in fighting BH. Food for thought when last did anyone here hear of a major BH offensive in Cameroon lest the minor raids. One would have expected BH to hit the weakest link in our supposed coalition that doesn’t even have an operational airforce to knock out BH technicals. BH loves publicity what more publicity can they get if Cameroon had to beg for CAS from France. Gentlemen it’s high time our supposed foreign policy became Nigeria, Nigeria, Nigeria. We are very much alone in our BH problem. Furthermore, i guess we should keep Cameroon military busy in their SW by covertly sponsoring successionists. With this release it’s obvious Cameroon is already covertly active in sponsoring same in Nigeria
Most Al Qaeda inspired groups are systematic in terms of the enemies they fight. IF BH manages to establish a durable base in bornu state, then it will move to take over northern Cameroun.
One enemy at a time.
Oga Asorockweb they are fully established in Northern Cameroun. Thy have just not gone kinetic yet
obviously ransome has been paid and it connotes more arms and munitions for bh.
I tell una since say the woman dey Borno State.
The allegation is that her husband chopped the ransom money
Boko Haram even kidnapped the negotiator and after he as released, the Camerounians arrested him. Thee Camerounian Information Minister denied thee release so abeg watch this space.
The story get K leg, something is up
Just saw a video of the released Chinese men on BBC. Also saw some released Cameroonian woman, but have no idea who she is.
Na the woman be that.
Settlement has happened one way or another. Too soon to tell what it is but lets wait and see.
Worst case scenario BH has just got the seed funding it needs for the Dry Season Offensive
Unfortunately so. Our troops need to be prepared for audacious boko-haram attacks in the coming weeks.
I think Sirs that we are all in agreement that Nigeria needs to arm up and might I add; arm up to the teeth. International politics is very fluid and dynamic. For all we know Biya and Shekau may have met and agreed to a truce…….just a speculation. Lets not forget what Russia did with the Nazis at the beginning of WW2. They signed a non-aggression pact which the Nazis later reneged on. I’m just saying nations do some very strange and funny things in the name of diplomacy.
it was the nazis who violated the pact though.
The Soviets are every bit as guilty as the Nazis. While Hitler Invaded Poland the Soviet Union provided steel and other raw materials to the Germans to continue the war.. under this ”pact” the Soviet Union was to occupy Eastern Poland while the Germans occupy the west, Stalin was complicit with Hitler from day one and if Hitler had not turned on Russia trust me Stalin would have been on the side of the Axis.
I do know that, but my only concern was the violation of the non agression pact, and it was the nazis who did that.
i am angry now. very angry.
Now again that we have concrete evidence millions of dollars have just been paid to Boko Haram by the same ”power” that vowed to crush Islamic extremism in West Africa what do we do? How do Boko Haram get their arms? do we even have an Intelligence Agency?
Ransom was paid to boko haram. Sahara reporters even said president idris of chad republic brokered the deal due to his closeness to top boko haram commanders. I think it is time for the Nigerian governmebt to be decisive about this issue. If our neighbours keep giving money to this terrorists as ransom, it will enable them buy arms on the black market. There are even reports of the release of some boko haram commanders in jail and and also the supply of arms and ammunition as part of the deal. What the Nigerian government needs is proof that these activities took place. If confirmed, the government shoud seek out both the camerounian and chadian governments and deal with this fraternization once and for all. Boko haram bases in Northern cameroun should be targetted and destroyed with airstrikes. It is obvious chad and cameroun have links to this sect. The camerounian special forces never didnt release the wife of the government official as speculated months ago.
Nigeria,
As I said should have been keeping all these our neighbors busy. We can keep Cameroon busy down south and Chad Christian minorities who have been excluded from government should be keeping Ndjamena busy.
If they were that busy they’ll be asking us to support them not the other way around. As I said if you are not in the exclusive 5 club in UN do not think of crossing into anybody’s border with a conventional army, this ain’t the 1990s…
It is interesting that we quote Sahara Reporters here when it is convenient. I actually believe they paid money and arms to BH anyway. My FG will not disappoint me as usual by not doing anything about it. I am pretty sure about that. This will come and pass and nothing will happen in terms of a response from Nigeria. Next week people here will continue competitive clapping to prove they are more patriotic than themselves.
I don’t know exactly who is quoting sahara reporters here. I alleged the payment of ransom and weapons before it appeared on sahara reporters.
moreover, it is only common sense.
Ok I can see the quote “. Sahara reporters even said president idris of chad republic brokered the deal due to his closeness to top boko haram commanders. ”
Please people, remember who sahara reporters are, if you start quoting them now then you are digging our graves. Disregard them, just ignore them. If at times we come to the same conclusion as them then so be it. But we shall never let them lead us in a dark corridor. I don’t know if you have noticeed but they don’t seem to be able to get rid of the annonymous source, iit appears in almost everything they right. On youtube they keep posting boko haram propagannda, and I bet you they will soon resume their boko haram printed propaganda aganst our army.
Oga Oje, dont be suprised that our intelligence agencies have detailed info on the arms supply of the group. The problem is when this info is submitted to the right quarters, do they deal with it. I believe they are trying their best with the available resources they have. I do know that there are french intelligence operatives around the chadian-camerounian axis. Do they share their intel with us? If yes, is it all the intel or just tit bits. Technologicaly, this countries are ahead of us.
Nigeria is surrounded by enemies who are covertly supporting boko haram- chad and cameroon while claiming to fight against them.
They are supplying weapons and finance to boko haram.
Nigeria has to be prepared to carry out a significant military action inside cameroon at some point.
Nigeria is not going to do Jack and you know it.
Well, a word is enough for the wise. Goodluck to them.
We need to do something about biya and fast, it seems he is not only giving money and ammo to boko haram, he is also turning our allies against us ! With this libertion of chinese hostages he is trying to buy china out of its alliance with us. cameroon is fighting us without a declaration of war. Cameroon is an ennemy not a friend. I suggest President Jonathan meets with the Chinese number one official.
I think Biya really hates Nigeria. He needs to be eased out of power.
Nigeria is a very complex country, like China in a right sense. Nigeria is not Ghana, only a ”STRONG” leader can effectively rule this country. Jonathan is going to destroy this country not because he is culpable but because he is indecisive, weak and clueless, i am saying this unapologetically and will say this any day any time and nothing will happen, they can come and arrest me. God forbid Jonathan wins a reflection, Nigeria will go down the abyss. 5 years fighting Boko Haram, jeez the second world war lasted 5 years, this is the longest large scale continues war in recent history and to think we have been prosecuting this war with less than 20,000 men all along despite the damages caused by Boko Haram is beyond words, shocking and ridiculous. Decisive leaders like Buhari,OBJ are what this country needs. how in the world can countries whose combined population are barely half the size of Lagos state and whose annual GDP are are less than Nigeria’s top billionaire drag this country to its knees, commits conspiracy against the territorial integrity of Nigeria and fund Boko Haram continuously with impunity. PRESIDENT JONATHAN NIGERIANS ARE BEGGING YOU IN THE NAME OF GOD PLEASE IF YOU CANNOT BE STRONG AND PROACTIVE PLEASE STEP DOWN AND LET CAPABLE MEN HANDLE OUR SECURITY BEFORE THIS BOKO HARAM SCOURGE HEADS SOUTH. Nigeria is effectively history if Boko Haram carries the carnage they are perpetuating in the North to Southern Nigeria, a region that is the most heavily armed in Nigeria where over 20,000 militants still have arms.
WHY ISNT NIGERIAN SOLDIERS AND TANKS STATIONED AT THE BORDER of these countries to send a message? Why isn’t Nigeria’s Navy practicing drills even if its just for show off the coast of Cameroon? Why aren’t we sending a clear message to these ants that meddling and manipulating Nigeria’s security will come with a terrible price? Do we even know how much was paid for these ransom without consultation with the Nigerian government? How do we even know weapons are not even exchanged? If there are people who doubt that there is a foreign-backed campaign to destabilize Nigeria, now you have your answer.
Gentlement ,Nigeria is the subject of an evil and diabolical covert operation undertaken by the intelligence services of France, United States, Britain, Cameroon and Chad to partition and dismember Africa’s most powerful country. These punnies (chad and cameroon) dont even realise these same powers using them to destabilize Nigeria are also hell bent on destroying them, any right think strategist in these countries will take into account the millions of refugees that will invariably incade their own countries. Cameroon already say they are overwhelmed by 200,000 displaced Nigerians and they cannot take more, in the Civil war when Nigeria had a population of just 50 million the refugee crises in Cameroon was so great it took them 5 years just to recorver from it. Now these same people are working with foreign powers to destroy a country of 177 million aggressive people just next door. Common sense is truly not common. Ebeen Barrows stated quit clearly that Nigeria should be wary of those we call ”friends”, now i see reason for his apprehension. Gentlemen what should be of paramount clarity to all concerned is the willingness of the United States and her cronies France and UK, nations that are the richest countres on earth at the helm of an expanded military empire named NATO, to act ruthlessly and decisively in the affairs of other nations when ever they deem it rationale to do so to protect their own interest.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/nigeria-can-put-spacecraft-orbit-5-years-don/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/military-arrests-soldiers-moles-boko-haram/
You guys including myself wanted accountability WELL HERE IT IS
OGA FREEGULF called this the steep learning curve if this men have actually been found to of leaked information to bh while sitting with oga in luxury, GENTLEMEN brace yourselves.
Your ARMY JUST STARTED GETTING VERY , VERY SERIOUS
Beeg, I beg you to moderate some of these comments out of this site as they are very uncalled for and reducing the quality of information that is on this site.
Superboi79, is that your contribution?is it you whose contribution here is less than 10 sentences that is calling for censorship to sanitize the quality of this site?
Why do you have a problem if I call for Sanitization of the Site?…Is it because you know must of what you post is thrash?
I humbly asked Beeg to Thrash Rubbish comments (such as unverified reports) and you have problems with that…….Seems you know the quality of you post…
oga jimmy, it is what it is. the army would have to persevere through the painful moments, before the joys and exhilaration of victory. this is the penalty to pay for military misrule of the mid 80s to late 90s.
what we can takeaway from this is that in the short run the nation will suffer. however, provided we learn from this, it will be good progress from there. for the army, is a new re-learning process. for the medium to long term, it would be extremely beneficial for the army.
no one ever said COIN was beauty and regal, no, it is dirty, dire, and tough all the way. this army would come out tougher, leaner, and fit for contemporary warfare. so it would be better, and we should endeavour to continue our support for the armed forces.
another issue i would like to bring forward is the doubters, and rumour-excited ones among us in this blog. some here have ‘civilianized’ warfare to the point that it is hard for others to even contribute meaningfully while reading some of this ‘fainthearted, videogame military knowledge of warfare’ comments. please, we should cease second guessing our NA/ NAF officers and commanders. they know what they are doing and are well trained. while the armed forces do have its shortcomings (especially in handling its media dept), strategy, operation, and tactics, should not become issue of panic stricken civilian elaborations and hyperbole.
“this is the penalty to pay for military misrule of the mid 80s to late “.
Very true @Freeegulf,
People do not realize how much years of misrule, lack of strategic planning and procurement have led to the security quagmire we have faced in the last decade starting with the Niger Delta issues and now BH. And people would be thinking we could just buy our way out of the problem.
Oga freegulf, thinking like this is what has landed us in this quagmire we find ourselves in. There is no excuse for the wanton loss of life and in such a manner. Yes counterinsurgency operations are new but a country that makes $2.493bn a year should not have military parity with a country that makes $400 million EVERYDAY from crude sale not counting the $40 billion oi reserve and trillions of cubic fit of natural gas not yet exploited. It defies human logic really. Our number one geopolitical foe in the region is giving out hard currency to a sect that has killed 13,000 Nigeriaans or more so far, controls over 20 villages and continues to rein in harvick on a scale not seen since the Civil war.
oga oje, but you have to take in a number of factors into consideration. first, why re we this lightly armed? second, how did we get to the state where most of our inventory where not battle worthy? and third, what major roles do nigeria play in the region in particular and the continent in generals?
if you answer these three questions, then you would understand why we are in such pathetic condition of unpreparedness and dysfunction.
huh?
Who told you we are lightly armed? or are you the brother to CNNS Vladimir Duthier who says Nigerian soldiers go into battle with one Magazine round each. The thing is you see this Boko Haram insurgency as a military threat. %70 of Nigeria’s military hardware are not suited for a hit and run enemy. Our artillery, Mofos,Palmera have no place in the North East, unless you want to shell Chibok and kill women and children and give Amnesty International another juicy story to suckle on.Our Navy has no business fighting Boko Haram. The Nigerian airforce still have the biggest power projection asset in Sub Saharan Africa in a compliment of C130 Hercules plans, they cannot be used against Boko Haram, and mind you we still have nearly 120,000 Nigerian troops doing absolutely nothing and perhaps bored by now, thats why you see them beating up Bus drivers in Lagos.
You shouldn’t have said this things,1 serviceable C130 equals best SSA force projection capability?
Nigeria currently has 5 serviceable C-130’s, a mix of the standard and stretch variants. This doesn’t include G-222’s, D0’s, 737’s.
haha, oga oje, slow down please. when you compare our size, our population, our (supposed geo-strategic vision), our economy (like you pointed out), you would realized that the Nigerian armed forces was never at any time since creation of the republic being heavily armed.
forget about all those handful weapons you keep mentioning, they could never had sustained us in a wider mechanized warfare. what i mean is this; a sustained conflict with countries of similar capabilities (so that excludes our neighbours and the whole of west africa!)
let me break it further. we became a republic in 1963. as of 1966, what was our population size? 50 million? 60M? Well, the army was only made up of two brigades then (a third was planned before the ill fated military intervention in politics) of 10,000 officers and men.
the exigencies of the civil war saw the army balloon in size to over a quarter million by the end of that fratricidal war. but even then, we had manpower and not enough firepower. you should know that gowon, being a calm, level headed supreme leader, did not mortgage our economy in order to prosecute the war like other countries did when they had wars to fight and die for.
he, gowon, bought weapons in sustainable measures (although our frontline logistics left much to be desired. that’s its a topic for another discussion) and sometimes haphazardly. but never in flood volumes like arabs.
between ’70-’75, we did not even have a modern fighter jet or main battle tank to speak of. now regarding mechanized warfare, there are only a handful of nations in Africa that could prosecute such as at the 70s. the list would have read like this; egypt, apartheid sa, ethiopia, algeria, morocco, and to a lesser extent somalia.
rhodesia was small in incapable of such sustained warfare. libya was still a desolate place then. the soudan, couldnt even defeat the anya anya rebellion in the then south. angola was still struggling with liberation wars. zaire was nothing to write home about, thanks to kleptocrat, mobutu. uganda had nothing but the inflated ego of field marshal alhaji idi amin. as for amin, what do you expect with someone with a self accolades of: ‘His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal AlHadji Doctor Idi Amin Dada, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular’
end of PT 1
PT 2
we did not receive MBTs until ’75-76 in our armor inventory. before then all we had was armour regt, there where no armored brigs or divs then. now compare that with the arsenal inventory of egypt, apartheid sa, and the others in the list i mentioned in pt 1 of this write-up.
again we know why. like i said previously, if you answer the three questions i asked you would understand why egypt had over a thousand tanks like T-55s and T-62s when we where still operating armour cars. you would also understand why algeria saw it necessary to be well armed, same goes for morocco, ethiopia, somalia, and apartheid sa.
we did not induct the MIG-21s until the mid 70s. well, by then, apartheid sa was already operating mirage 3. egypt had mig 21s, ethiopia had the best dog fighter then, the F-5 tiger.
it was the murtala/obj govt that then decided to reduce the army, in the process, trading manpower for firepower. it was a brilliant idea, and this brought about the modernization of the armed forces. now lets look at some of the weapons we got from that 10-year acquisition period (75-85). for the army, you mentioned the bofors and pamaria. fine engineered machines. the question is how many did we buy and induct? compare our numbers with that of our other contemporaries. God is always on the side of big battalions, let no one deceive you about numbers in war. quantity is quality on its own
lets even play with a fictional scenario. say, we decided to intervene on the side of FAPLA when they where taking a beating from the sadf in ’85 (lets leave the complicated 87-88 conflict for now). how many of these weapons system could we have sufficiently sent to the frontline to turn the tide. or lets even say we did not have to go that far, for the sake of logistics. say it was a confrontation in the sahara, with tchad as the battlefield and we decide to defend poor tchad against libyan aggression. with the libyan armed forces having similar orbat like ours (T-55s and pamaria SPH), how many tanks and prized SPH would nigeria have sent to tchad to destroy the libyan intrusion or liberate the aouzou strip? we know numbers do not decide battle outcomes. but how many officers would have been confident enough to send battalion de marche into tchad knowing fully well we are inferior in quantity. we are not some guerilla army, neither do we count on some european power to come to our aid. quality only comes in when one is on the defensive, or pulling off a brilliant counter trust. from a pure attacking point of view, no one will simply throw 200 tanks to face 1000 tanks of similar quality. especially when the air force cant act as a balance. so no advantage in hardware, both air and land. it would be fool hardy to just count on quality of grunts while attacking.
as of the 80s, our mig 21s where already obsolete. libya was flying the mig-23. apartheid SA, the mirage F1. egypt the F16s. ethiopia the mig 23s. morocco the mirage and tiger II. algeria even had mig 25s. remember these where our contemporaries in the 80s. angola was still nowhere near its capability today, nor sudan for that matter.
our navy was not far off either. yes we had the NNS aradu. but that was just one MEKO frigate. the argies bought four! we where busy dancing around just one. how many submarines? LPDs? LSTs? anti submarine aircraft fleet, corvettes. how many did we posses then?
end of PT 2. part 3 would pick on the 90s to the present
Oga freeegulf, preach on, many thanks
whewwww oga freegulf this is serious stuff
PT 3
the 1990s can be termed the lost decade for the armed forces. no meaningful procurement.
ironically, it was the same decade that we where busy with region wide ‘fire put outs’. unlike us, the rest of our contemporaries where not declining, nor where they stagnant. egypt wanted the F15s, in the end, settled for the mirage 2000. not bad i had say. apartheid died an inglorious death, but before its demise, they manage to upgrade the mirage 3 why at the same time fighting in angola, where friends and foe would all agree that the sadf gave a good account of itself.
algeria was neck deep in islamo-facists takeover. that insurgency kept them busy throughout the 90s. however it did not stop them from weapons acquisitions for mechanized warfare. libya fell off the list, by and large. a resurgent ethiopia procured Su-27, not wanting to be left behind, tenacious eritrea followed suit with migs and sukhois also. morocco started their F16 program plans.
remember, this was at a time that we couldn’t even feature a squadron of armed helos to prosecute the peace enforcement in LBR and SRL. our tank fleet where in no battle worthy state. our MRLS, well, the numbers where insufficient for ready action. our airborne, air mobile, air portable, the elite created in the 80s to keep off apartheid SA, where far from being useful in any air assault role.
the 90s ended with the nigerian armed forces completely in a state of utter meaningless with regard to it foremost duty of defending our territorial integrity. now don’t get the above part wrong. yes, we couldn’t stand weapons wise with our contemporary, but that does not mean we could not bottle up the whole of west and central africa. that is a different kettle. taylor and campore tried, and they saw the dominance of the nigerian armed forces when forced to fight. but with the big spenders on the continent, we where left behind in acquisition matters.
the 21st century presented its own different challenges to the armed forces. from ISO which became to bane of the army deployment, to pocket serving UNPKOs that served no combat meaningfulness to us. hell, the UN even had to embarrass us into buying APCs to meet their PKO standard.
the next serious fighting was the ND conflict. again we where caught flat footed. not enough helos, lack of riverine assault craft in measurable quantities, OPVs, IPCs, CPCs, all lacking. i should state here that as early as the 70s, naval experts where already lobbying for OPVs and MPAs for both brown water and green water warfare in order to arrest the issue of oil smugglers. so the brains where already there. but no action resulted from all the lobbying and papers submitted on maritime security.
the ND saw some air mobile units being converted into amphibious units in order to arrest the situation. some quick changes where introduced, and thankfully, the conflict was quickly wrapped up with both the carrot and stick approach.
sadly, we went back to snoring after the ND crisis. i should say, more blame should be placed on the DSS and the police than the armed forces. they underestimated this new miscreants and made the situation so uncontrollable that the army, our long suffering army, had to once again be deployed to crush this vermin. now you have the army everywhere at once. UNPKOs, operations in the plateau, operations in the east against kidnappers, in the middlebelt; fulani nomad crisis (that is still not resolved, and would be a future problem until a holistic solution is implemented), now lake chad hot spot.
looking at today’s orbat of our contemporaries, its scary how far back we truly are. more countries have joined the list. to the point were NAF cant even join top 9 air force in africa. our navy now name P vessels as F vessels. how can we blame them, when our politicians keep bellowing the usual cliche that i m even tired of mentioning.
however, given all these, from a professional POV, potential strength, and might of a reluctant giant, there are only four countries in africa that would really be put ahead of us in terms of capability. 1 Egypt. 2 Algeria. 3. Ethiopia. 4 South Africa. this is because, factoring professionalism, finance, orbat, creed, traditions, and other fine prints that the general spectators would miss, only these four countries can thick all the relevant boxes, 4G multi-role aircraft or not. also, we could easily bump off two from that list once we begin our recapitalization. algeria has too much money to spend and fewer mouths to cater for, egypt has american backing and israel to watch for, so surpassing those two would be flight of fancy. egypt have always being heavily armed from the 60s. morale of soldiers and pilots would be another topic completely.
in summary oga oje, we have never being as ‘armed to the teeth’ as a lot of us thought or wished. yes our orbat in the late 70s to late 80s could have deterred any power, but us projecting that power forward, say turning the tide in gigantic conflicts that was fought in the late 70s to late 80s would have been very very remote, possible but remote.
God bless you for this long analyses Oga freeegulf.
http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/12/504.html
I dont understand what this history lesson have to do with the present circumstances. Im talking about a long overdue course of action, you are telling me about anya anya rebels of the 60’s.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/cameroon-vows-totally-wipe-boko-haram-hostages-release/
Regardless of what is currently happening with Cameroon and Chad, FG needs to forge ahead and end this war soonest. I still don’t understand why Gwoza is still in BH hands. Why? why? why?
forget about Cameroon and chad for now, let our military press on. They have the nation’s support. If FG thinks our neighbors cant be trusted then lets close our borders with them but we need to reclaim all lost territories from the terrorists and end this insurgency as soon as possible.
Oga freegulf that was a well told story of our ORBAT history. God bless you for this glance back which should hopefully influence the big Ogas who visit this blog into seeing the need for our present and future ORBAT to be more capable. This capability can be sourced in the short term via an Algerian style splurge(no, nothing should be competing for $$$ against our national security) and more importantly be sustainable in the medium to long term via local sourcing which will be strengthened by ensuring tech transfers accompany our now enlarged orders. Who says we can’t for instance standardize our national light APC fleet on the Otokar Cobra modified for Nigeria with full options and place an order for 2500 to be delivered in a 5 year span with the option for a further 500 in the 6th year.
In such a scenario, the Turkish will deliver the first batch of 500 from their factory while local companies like Proforce assemble another 1200(18 months production or so) from imported CKD kits. The aim is that at least 75% of the Cobra for instance can be built in Nigeria via large scale reverse engineering. This exercise will not only generate jobs and boost the economy, it will also give our engineers valuable experience to apply in the 100% local design and engineering of military equipment.
Another situation where such a formula could be applied is with our attack helicopters. Forget begging any man, Naija don pass that kain story. Go to Uncle Vlad with cold hard cash and order a mix of at least 80 full options Mi24/Mi35 and Mi171sh and at the same time request for depot level facilities to accompany the order. If I am correct, the Ethiopians have used a similar deal to acquire Russian systems before.
It is frankly absurd to me as a Nigerian how South Africa have a version of the Mil 24 (Super Hind it is called) plus a depot level facility and do not operate a single example of the helicopters in their military and yet we haven’t at least made ourselves the West/Central African hub of Mil maintenance activity despite operating the largest fleet in the region.
what ever you want to do to the Otokar Cobra, do it to the Igirigi instead.
We must learn to value our own!!!
I agree Oga Ozed, however I feel local assembly of the Cobra will greatly help accelerate our progress on the learning curve with regards to issues such as systems integration. As much as I love the Igirigi, we have to admit that the Cobra is arguably more sophisticated and has proven compatible with a wider range of weapon systems than Igirigi
Oga Ugo, how can we hope to win this war if the finances of the terrorists go unchecked. After 9/11 the first action the United States took is to find and track AQD finances. Millions of dollars were traced to many Banks including Swiss Bank, they froze millions of dollars laundered under proxy names. In our case no matter what we do they seem to be able to recruit men in their thousands. We kill 400 Bokos everyday and they next day they appear with 500 men, this is Vietcong all over again, how do they pay these guys, how do they get the money to buy arms with relative ease, who are their arms dealers? France and Cameroon should be implicated for conspiracy to fund terror for political/Ideologucal gains. this area borders the Lake Chad Basin where the French-speaking nations of Niger, Chad and Cameroon are situated, the rat trails of supplies of arms and ammunition and non-Nigerian terrorists would not go unnoticed by French Special Forces personnel who are deployed in those countries as indeed they tend to be in much of francophone Africa. North East Nigeria borders the Lake Chad Basin where the French speaking puppeteers of Niger, Chad and Cameroon are situated, the rat trails of supplies of arms,supplies and ammunition and non Nigeriain terrorists would not go unnoticed by French Special Forces personnel who has a strong military presence and Covert facilities deployed in those countries as indeed they tend to be in much of francophone Africa.
The best way to kill this hydra headed problem first of all is to cut off their ability to resupply and pay fighter at will. Why are we wasting money buying arms only for them to counter this by buying arms geared towards negating whatever we have bought. Boko Haram has been on its knees these past couple of weeks, we are even talking of a final offensive and now what has happened, they ”conveniently” just got paid, and Cameroon was the broker.the destiny of our great nation Nigeria is in the hands of its people o, we all may choose to be resigned to a fate of inevitable disintegration. Or we can say enough is enough,we must be spurred to a resolution to resist and withstand the provocations of Boko Haram as well as the ”possible” (CERTAIN) manipulations of an outside powers, chief of them France and its houseboy Cameroon.
@Oje, this is perhaps the best opinion I’ve read in recent time regarding checkmating BH!
Capt Tobias Wilcock says:
October 13, 2014 at 3:52 am
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/nigeria-can-put-spacecraft-orbit-5-years-don/
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Oga Capt Tobias, please help us ask Nigeria why we think we can build Spacecraft in 5 years but we cannot build one single hand held anti-armour guided missile in 4 years of war against Boko Haram.
because our space technology has not yet been militarized, I guess the reasons would be similar to the reasons people build civil nuclear power plants and avoid to militarize them openly.
Sir Augustine, It has to be a kind of Manhattan project, where the Government decides it is taking the bull by the horn and going all the way, make or break, their a lots of Nigerian Engineer world wide and at home that have tp be pooled fronm different field to put this together. Once they start they and their families would be on the hair pin sights of the west. They need to be assured they would not be compromised by the careless and policy less top Government and Military officials. look some of this things are being built by secondary school children in the west. the call to go all out must come from the top, look at the N.Korean bid to transfer Missile tech to Nigeria. it was foiled by a leadership that had stolen money in western banks and did not want to offend them. The starting a project to put devices into space means a lot of rocket technology would come into play. look at the Pakistan Nuclear project. nobody is going to give up except we snatch it. We can do it, even crude rockets were built and used during the Nigerian civil war by Biafran engineers without a proper lab, using a disused train station for production . The Locally built Nigerian APC/IFVr should be bought in mass and the engineers should be given battle field performance reports to modify and improve. If we have a production line, it means the maintenance of this type would not need any external help, before you know it they can easily produce heavier tanks, best equipments are born in battle. this takes the issue of IFV/ APC out of the Nigerian Military external shopping list. ( we proper marketing and pricing we can start selling) The issue of manufacturing large caliber guns is not an impossible task, once the Government decides it wants to go ahead. How do you explain sending about a 1000 men for training, the cost of their tickets alone to construct the best training facilities and simulators locally and buy kits to match ( 1000x at least $1000/ ticket + $1,000,000 not to talk of estacode, They need to send the best only on ‘train the trainer’ programs,
I am sure there are guys like you guy’s in the field that can come together to evolve tactics for scenarios , which were tailored for a local combat situations ( which must be different from Russia or where ever). The UN acknowledges that the only mission that peace was established were manned by Nigerian soldiers (Liberia and Sierra Leone), all other places are still not resolved, even those which startedb before the two mention theatres. Would you have ever thought we could stop Ebola, while great America is still confused with 1 case .
We haven’t even able to generate 5,000 megawatt of electricity since 1960 yet we talk about building our own spacecraft to the Space in 5 years ? A feat only 3 countries on Earth have accomplished? lol
Oga Oje, It doesn’t really work lie that. Everything depends on the specific nature of the task and priority. Throughout the existence of the Soviet Union, they built spacecrafts and any kind of military hardware you could think of, but the never produced any good TV, T-shirt or toothpaste.
Do you actually believe we cannot or just that we do not, We lack leadership and resolve, Most of the present day leaders are all compromised with funds in Westrn Banks, they are afraid of Western tactics of freezing accounts of individuals as well as the offending Govt, look at west response to Putin. We need to hunker down and face the world, We need to believe in our selves, I was very proud that Nigerian team at the World cup came with a Nigerian Coach who had beaten all other African teams with Foreign coaches. I do not care if we did not win the cup this time, same for the Military, the recent successes are not going down well with some people, I believe Nigeria would eventually and sooner than thought deck BH, will the west would still continue wrestle IS. I salute the Nigerian Military.
thanks my ogas
@oga oje, like i explained earlier, with accurate answers of those questions you would understand in-depth why we are where presently are. armies are not raised in vacuums. it takes a lot of structure, doctrine and training to be a first rate army. understanding this will provide with the insight to utility of force
Oga oje,this tactic won’t work.
Before you invade a country protect your rear end.
Cameroon is a French colony!
Do you know we are surrounded by Francophone countries?
To invade we will have to prove to the international community the subterfuge and aggression of Cameroon if not;
How will you protect our oil infrastructure and life-blood from sabotage by French submarines and economic blockade by French frigates?
How will your prevent secession by the niger-delta and south-east encouraged by France?
How will you prevent an attack by Chadian Migs and Frogfoots on the behest of France?
How will you stop boko haram now being sponsored by France with much much more sophisticated weapons and equipment( with arab/tuareg minders/mercenaries too) paid by,yes, France?
How will you stop French sponsored Nigerien mercenaries from joining up with bokoharam in their thousands?
We can deal with bokoharam as is,don’t complicate issues that have not been complicated for you on the battlefield.
Always make sure you have the higher ground in battle,and don’t concede it to the enemy. Emotions don’t win wars.
My 2kobo.
@drag_on, insightful.
The Eastern Region of Nigeria doesn’t want to succeed, we’re not captured territory, if enough people from that region wanted out, we/they could very easily crash the entire Nigerian economy. So that’s not an issue.
@ Oga Oje
The international community as it stands today has been fractured into regional hegemony with a nation/s monopolizing each region ie:
1) Asia——-monopolized by China
2) East Europe monopolized by Russia
3) West Europe monopolized by UK/France/Germany
4) The Americas———monopolized by the US
5) The Middle east——–monopolized by Iran/Saudi/Isreal
6) Southern Africa ———— monopolized by SA
7) West Africa ———-monopolized by ??????
Despite our claim of being the giant of Africa, there is currently a leadership vacuum in our geo-political sphere. Leadership is usually asserted in 3 ways:
a) Economic strength
b) Military Strength
c) Political initiative.
The time has come for Nigeria to re-strategize our foreign policy. That means act first and ask questions later. We should not be afraid to carry out incursion attacks into Chad and Cameroon in pursuit of BH. We should not be afraid to interfere in our neighbors’ internal affairs in our national interest. If push comes to shove, we should not be afraid to invade and hold territories in our national interest. Look around the globe. That is what all the monopolizing nations do and notice they don’t usually go to the UN to ask for permission. In order to be able to accomplish c), then a) and b) must be firmly in place.
What do you hope to gain by such an invasion ?
U.S is coming out with a clear response claiming that they actively provide support to the Nigerian government in the boko haram war.
I think they have been stung pretty hard by comments on this blog and in media circulation that they are not being helpful.
I don’t think i believe everything they claim.
Direct from the white house- Thoughts???
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/10/14/fact-sheet-us-efforts-assist-nigerian-government-its-fight-against-boko-
There’s precious little in the “fact-sheet”. Completely underwhelmed.
Wow, I don’t think they should have released this, because I assumed that they were doing more than just the items on the “face-sheet.”
Oga asorockweb, indeed it seems quite sparse as far as a rebuttal goes against all the negative flack the U.S has been receiving about support for Nigeria.
Infact, it does seem to expose the fact that they are barely doing anything at all….
oga RUGGED
I honestly believe that if this email is PROVED TO BE AUTHENTIC , OGA BEEGS needs to open a thread whereby we can constructively analyze this. Please OGA BEEGS
can you verify through your sources if this is from the said claimed white house if it is FACT not a hoax document, then and only then oga beegs if it a genuine document most respectfully i humbly request we open a thread.
Yea, Oga Jimmy, it probably needs an indepth analysis on a dedicated page.
It seems authentic, nothing on the website indicates anything other than it being genuine and a white house policy document.
http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/nigerian-camerounian-militaries-hold-bilateral-parley-on-operation-against-terror/
Thank you posting this
The Art of Deception. Conceal your intention, engage your enemy.
I believe you have made your point – let’s now proceed with other matters.
Ogas I hope this true….http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-ramps-up-in-major-offensive-against-boko-haram/191244/
“The Special Forces have finished their training in Jaji and are being deployed to support the mission.”
Is this what the wait was all about? Training and rehearsals?
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-ramps-up-in-major-offensive-against-boko-haram/191244/
I will look to see what our allies do between now and Nov1 st this is day where everybody is singing kumbaya.
Under the speculation Umbrella
The wait was not just about the SF, I.M.H.O it has to do with the training of the new equipment that was procured. N.O.I. The only finance minister who goes to check on procured equipment announced this procurement last week. The unusual deathly silence from dhq with what has been a bloody affair in Adamawa state can only mean something is about to happen. what it is we will have to wait and see.
Our panoply of special forces are becoming confusing to lay men such as i.
I know the Army have always had special forces, are these a new set? Or do they mean the training of the 850 Sudan UNMIL returnees in Counter insurgency and anti terror tactics?
If they were sent to jaji it is probably an existing sf battalion that was sent to jaji for more advanced sf training , you cannot raise a sf battallion from scratch in a matter of weeks it takes at least 9 months to a year if you want quality over quantity, if you want quantity 1-4 months and you will live with the results.
Maybe the wait was about NOT JUST THAT
Check this out
I beg my ogas I dey ground dey prostrate I need a quick update on CZECH AIRCRAFT, this is a very curious source of procurement,
“I need a quick update on CZECH AIRCRAFT, this is a very curious source of procurement”
Not really.
L-39 Albatross is/was a very successful trainer/light attack. The Aero L-159 Alcan is the successor to the L-39.
The Czech have a long history of arms manufacturing – the Germans used Czech arms and some Czech designs in world war 2.
Sorry I forgot the link
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/boko-haram-fg-to-purchase-three-aircraft-from-czech-republic/191254/.
” Investigations also revealed that the Boko Haram insurgents have increasingly come to the realisation that they cannot hold on to territories or defeat the Nigerian army in a conventional warfare and have thus reverted to the hit-and-run guerrilla tactics they are known for.”
lol i like this. ISIS wannabees,don’t worry, the Nigerian army is sending its diplomatic teams to open its Embassy in your new Caliphate Republic of BOKOSTAN. Bunch of savage cowards,don’t keep the 90 virgins earmarked for you in heaven waiting. Offer lasts while stock lasts.
Lol oje wicked
Oga jimmy the Aero L-159 Alcan payload seems presentable
2,378kg something dat our current platform lack
7 hardpoints now that gat me thinking
However its combat radius is a source for concern as it seems the alpha jet has more loiter time dan it
Right now as regards ATGM in the northeast a lot of emphasis must be placed on payload,loitertime,fuel efficience and avonics..the lack of precision guided ordinances have made our pilots hit nd run drivers trying to avoid AAA fire..if u are acquring this plane NAF pls put some cash down for at least 30-60 pieces of laser guided bombs(harm-9) prefarebly.
We must increase survibility under intense pressure and accuracy of kill.
For grilpo L radar not to bad but well know for maintenance issues.FLIR capability is a must for this baby
I think dat a mix of 1 Aero L-159 Alcan,2 alpha jet and 1 f-7 on strategic ground missions will do a lot of damage esoecially to bh mobility,the fact dat there seems to be a working synergy between the olatforms inbound nd ISTAR assets gives me hope..
Gud buy FG but quantity matters to,3 shld be a starting point plus I am still waiting for our flankers.
Nigeria was always 85% likely to buy the L 159 ALCA and I have raised the possibility many times in the past. It is an excellent COIN aircraft and an ideal replacement for the Alpha jets in their current role plus it has PGM delivery capability. Buying just three is disgraceful though. Yes the combat radius is just 570km and it unfortunately has an American engine as well. If we successfully buy the three aircraft, know that the FG has been playing some politics with all the news about full blown restrictions on Nigeria weapon procurement and the sanctions may be just restricted to a particular class of hardware.
It is also possible that the aircraft referred to in this news report is not the ALCA but a slower, less lethal ISR type of aircraft for border monitoring.
As annoying as it may look and stupid as it.may sound.i think we should get some more units of the F-7…we have clocked heavy flight time in dat stuff nd really we should be giving more bite to the buys now currently by keeping the tempo up.12 units could be a gud buy,
But the unwVering silence by the FG abt the jf deal.is doing no one any gud.i want to jets in the ait
@Buchi, if its some more F7 with some BVR updates and PGM capability then that is supported.
So funny. Ride on
These are the guys that should have been in the frontline all along.
What sort of targeting pod is that on 3:55?
Last time this Czech aircraft story was published, we were told it’s ISTAR kind of aircraft FG wants to buy, and said to be state of the art.
NAF does not need L159 Alca jet, for what? How many types are we going to mix in the inventory of a 3rd world country that has weak technological base and heavily dependent on imports?
See NAF…..Alpha Jet + L-39 + MBB-339 + Super Tucano + F-7 + JF-17 + Su-30 clumsy clumsy.
See South African air force….Gripen + Hawk neat neat.
Czech was to supply NAF second batch L-39 Albatross 22 units after the first batch 24 units, the Czechs joined arms embargo against Nigerian during ECOMOG wars and cancelled the supply after building the jets !
Now this L-159 Alca with it’s American engine?
NAF is okay to retire all other combat aircraft and stick to only….Super Tucano + MBB 339CD upgrade + JF-17 + Su-30…..that’s four different combat aircraft already.
Nigeria does not have a history of good maintenance culture.
Nigeria hasn’t had a history of good maintenance culture because in the past it was political unstable, with coups after coups after coups. In order for a country to have good maintenance culture, it must be stable and have continuity, meaning, the programmes implemented by the past government must be carried on by the succeeding government.
Point of correction
in the past the Naf did not have a culture of maintenance ln the last 10 years the Naf has been known for taking care of their Aircraft.
Sir, NAF taking good care of only Alpha jets and F-7 jets, both among the lowest level of technology, cheapest, simplest, and easiest to maintain among their class in the whole world, is not an achievement for a 50 year old air force of an oil rich nation with the 26th biggest economy in the whole world.
Let’s go check out Algerian air force and see their achievement, maintaining about 48 state-of-the-art Su-30 Flanker jets with some of the best Su-30 Pilots in the world equal in skill to the Russians. Morocco, Sudan, Ethiopia, are also examples of air forces doing 4th generation jets maintenance in large numbers that we can call achievements.
Then when Nigeria buy jets in these modern times, let’s not forget to find out how many vital ordnance is missing… Recce Pods, Targeting Pods, 360 Deg FLIR, BVR AAM, ASM, ARadM, ATGM, LGB, AShM etc.
The more aircraft you buy, the less funds left for extra extra ordnance and hardware options.
The Aero L-159 Alca is a decent plane but are we not getting the JF-17? The L-159 is within the price range of the JF-17blk 1.
I think it would have been better to have a mix of Blk1’s and Blk2’s in the force than the addition of the ALCA since the Blk1’s are upgradeable. My thinking is that the SU series is for air-superiority;the JF-17s’ are for ground attack under the shadow of the SU’s in high threat environments,SEAD,and for interception in our air-space; then the S.Tucano for COIN operations.
I am not sure the role the Alca will play that is not already covered by the S.Tucano and the JF-17 unless, a deal has fallen through somewhere.
I must repeat again i am only in favour of the JF-17 deal as long as we have a development role. China is desperately trying to sell the jet with development role to different countries,we shouldn’t go for less on that option.
If you placed Super Tucano and ALCA in front of any self respecting NAF senior officer, which would he take?. I think he would take the jet any day.
dem go do like say dem no see tucano at all.
the ALCA is an Advanced trainer jet, a purpose which the jf-17 should not be used for.
If it means dumping the S.Tucano,Alpha jet, MB339 and L-39 then am all for it.
Nigeria, the ministry of interior, not the military, are getting 3 ISTAR Aircrafts from the Czech republic not fighter jets. The ministry of the interior does not have fighter pilots.
Thanks for the info share.
This would most likely replace the 3 Do 228 bought a long time ago for the Nigerian Immigration services for Air border patrol . 5N-AUX, 5N-AUW & 5N-AUY. They were mostly used for VIP transport then, very rarely did any border patrol….
We are getting more Alpha Jets, the remaining 3 Beechcraft Super King 350 (one with full ISR capability) and the DA42MPP.
@Oga Zachary999, did you say more Alpha jets? Please shed more light.
Yes, we are getting 6 more aircraft. Pilots and engineers are familiar with platform and we have more pilots that have done weapons delivery training on this aircraft than any other airframe in service today.Expect more upgrades on the Alpha jet (FLIR etc)
We need to understand the cycle time to train new pilots and engineers on new acquisitions. While i might not agree with the strategy and decision framework that has been adopted, the brass hats know best…
Would we buy this jets ( Super Tucano, Kfir, Sukhoi’s, etc) and allow foreign pilots to fly them in our fight against terror ? I sincerely doubt this would happen and that any order has been placed for any of the frames discussed. Someone even said they were assembling an example in TAC, where in TAC ? Did someone see an Air beetle and mistake that for a tucano ?
Oga Obix, all these reports are un-confirmed, the facts that are available to the public are, the recent signing of MI-35M and MI-171SH helicopters with the Russians at ADEX 2014, the order for 12 helicopters from Belarus.
Every supposed procurement claim is…………. simply what it is, a claim. With the Nigerian military you cannot predict their or speculate. This is why I take, and urge people to take all these procurement claims with caution.
Well, an advanced Alpha jet will make sense right now as a stop gap measure considering the points you mentioned. But that shouldn’t stop us from going for Air superiority jets and a better ground attack jet that will eventually replace the Alphas.
There is no such thing as an advanced Alpha Jet. The nose can only take a given size of radar, the airframe is only going to carry the weapon load and drop tanks it is designed to carry. Even night fighting capabilities are limited by space, allowable weight and engine power. Now I have big questions for the $1bn loan, the previous 1bn extra grant and rising anger at the jokers who think patriotism doesn’t allow for questioning their govt on their civic responsibilities at all but still want to invade Cameroon and blockade South Africa.
Some people in public office cannot spell patriotism even if you gave them flash cards with the letter written in bold types, most of them do not even understand half of what is discussed here because there are no $$$ signs attached and have been fully bought and paid for by outside interests. So gentlemen, think about that for a minute.
http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/daily/news/36784-nigeria-moves-to-acquire-surveillance-aircraft-from-czech-republic
ok, Mr Beegeagle, consider me resigned from this blog, the reasons are the following:
1) My days as a blogger are over (unless you want to talk about my maths blog or other maths blogs)
2) you set out rules for your blog to which you considered some people to be above.
3) The fact that some people post boko haram propaganda on this blog.
4) the lack of moderation.
I have overstayed here anyway,
I hope one day your own well written papers will be avalable.
I wish you all the best.
Long live the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Igbi, na wa o
Let the guy go and do his maths blog. We don’t want self absorbed, delusionary and narrow minded people around here degrading the level of discourse with simple minded, linear, parochial ideas worthy only of contempt and ridicule.
Ha Ha Ha ! My brother Igbi de resign every month.
Expect him back this time in November, he just cant help himself Beegie’s blog is still the hotest thing in town!!!. Lolz
lol…Oga Igbi, 4 get that one.
Resign go where kwanu????
Nairaland? Abeg leave that mata.
Go hammer 1 bottle star, then come back for activity.
We need diversity of opinion on this blog.
Gbagaun…!!! Thank you my brother.
Ogas, it’s a big mistake for NAF to dump Super Tucano and MBB-339CD upgrade for L-159 Alca.
COIN war is here, and MBB-339 is already in service with NAF, a full squadron, we have pilots and spares. So why the misadventure of this Czech fancy light jet that cannot face a Sudanese MiG-29 upgrade, and the Alca has bad combat radius about 550 km or so, the Tucano can chase Bokos for 2,550 km.
Are we gonna ruin ourselves because of some L-159 Alca we don’t need specifically?
The so air crafts seem to be for border survaillance,
http://www.aitonline.tv/post-b_haram_insurgency__fg_to_acquire_3_jets_for_border_patrol_from_czech_republic.
If you go to the 4th and 6th paragraphs you’ll get a clearer picture, even though the reporting is quite poor
….”equipped with GPS that operates in the day and night”… why would my country continue to be inflicted with this kind of incomprehensible defence reporting.
So, the aircraft from Czech appears to be for surveillance.
Is it the L-410 Turbolet?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_L-410_Turbolet
I certainly hope not. I can comfortably state that most people on this blog were not born when this aircraft was launched.
True. But pay attention to what the Czech representative said: “The aircraft has been around for many years”
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/well-return-nigerias-15m-soon-s-africa/
Was all this shouting really necessary and the deal was legitimate after all s.m.d.h. 😦
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/national-news/183011-u-s-envoy-clarifies-position-on-arms-sale-to-nigeria
Someone needs to interprete this ENGLISH language to me OGA RUGGED, BEEGS ASOROCK
because I am completely befuddled by the AMBASSADOR’S STATEMENTS.
Oga Jimmy,
The ambassador’s statements lack clarity. Another way to put it is, the journalists have not asked the right questions and the ambassador has not gone out of his way to bring clarity. He has now denied he said arms sales to Nigeria would be “ungodly”. And maybe he didn’t say that.
It’s almost as if the ambassador does not know what is possible in terms of arms sales to Nigeria. Maybe even he doesn’t know what will be “given the nod”, “silently block”, “obliquely refused”, “laughed at” or just “shouted down”.
I hope we have moved on from “US arms sales”.
Oga Jimmy, abeg 4get Yankee matter.
They can sweet talk u straight into a 6 foot grave.
For Nigeria’s safety, we better just forget them.
They aren’t worth the trouble….
http://www.punchng.com/news/military-denies-burying-soldiers-in-mass-grave/
Why the army needs to be more SOCIAL MEDIA FRIENDLY.
http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/terrorism-nigeria-cameroun-defence-chiefs-meet-on-trans-border-military-operations/
Interesting news it appears cooler heads will carry the day.
” Receiving Cameroun’s Defence Chief in his office, Air Chief Marshal Alex Badeh, pointed out, that in the interest of mutual national security of both nations, their Armed Forces’ needed to forge ahead together in order to harness available areas of cooperation for the protection of their people. He also called for regular joint military training exercises, which he emphasised, would be beneficial to both countries as it would avail them the opportunity to learn from each other, thereby improving their capabilities and relationship.”
FA FA FA FOUL !!. The only military exercise they will get is 30,000 Nigerian soldiers, 2000 paratroopers, 200 Tanks and NNS Thunder and NNS Owanbe conducting ”Operation Sealion” near the Cameroonian border.
Barely a week after paying the alleged sum of half a million dollars to Boko Haram and releasing Boko Haram Commanders
Paul Biya has vows to ‘totally wipe out’ Boko Haram lol
http://www.cameroononline.org/cameroon-vows-totally-wipe-boko-haram/#comment-353000
This was A YEAR AGO
France and Cameroon have reiterated denials that Nigerian Islamist sect Boko Haram was paid an equivalent of around $3.15 million by French and Cameroonian negotiators before freeing seven French hostages this month.The two countries have also refuted claims in a confidential Nigerian government report obtained by Reuters indicating that the ransom had been paid.
I reckon what ever amount paid to Boko Haram is in excess of the purported $400,000 claim. Its taking the Nigerian government nearly a month just to buy arms worth $15 million and as we speak the money is still being frozen by South Africa.. But Boko Haram have access to millions and can buy what ever they want to buy without the public knowing, with no scrutiny, no obstacle. If Boko Haram can outspend us and acquire arms faster than we can what is the point fighting them? lets just hand over the North to them. All the discussions and proposals we say on this blog is worthless if we cannot even spend a paltry $15 million on arms without a major diplomatic incident happening. We are boxed in a corner, when will it be time to say enough is enough?
To understand why South Africa might not release or delay the S15 MILLION meant for arms watch this.Two weeks ago we were happt over the possible aquisition of a number of SU-30 and JF-17 4th Gen jets. Today we are talking about 3 Jet trainers. THREE PLANES FROM CZECH REPUBLIC. HOME OF PETER CECH.
WE ARE PAYING A VERY HIGH PRICE FOR ALIGNING OURSELVES WITH THE WEST. THATS WHY WE ARE NOT SEEING THE RUSSIANS GIVING A DAMN . OR THE CHINESE despite being heavily involved in our infrastructural projects.
Please stop.
Why make incessant comments about the same topic?
You do realise that you are insulting the very people you are trying to inform by repeating yourself over and over again.
This is just spam.
Oje, stop spamming this blog. Your comments are very irritating.
Mr Oje , Your comments are beginning to irritate me,Do yourself a Favour Dont comment to every post or statement here.
1. Except Beegeagle NO ONE has the Say in any matter, we are all voicing learned opinions, we certainly do nt understand wat is going on currently because we are not with the full intel, u wax hysterically of bombing cameroon yet turn around to mock the military, u need to make up ur mind
2. Its nt by force u must comment or get urself heard, ive followed this blog for many years I knw wen to speak, u must hold ur peace sir, dnt keep on writing unintelligent stories n expecy people to take ot as ttuth
3. If you can read it says Interior ministry ordered for da Crafts, if we can recall early this year, the minister was in Czech to view the craft, some say its for ISR efforts which is nt a bad thing it hasnt translated to buying the craft for military use, its clearly written who it is for, Wat is meant for Military has been coming in snippets, please try n read n understand before you talk.
4. Please no matter how unsatisfactory Our Ogas are handling BH issue there is no missing the passion there, We will get through this What we should do is Suggest VARIOUS OPTIONS on how to get this done, We know various trainings and weapons are being bought , We need to Make sure that the military plans through everything before it begins major offensive, so if you do not have anything CONSTRUCTIVE that will help fight the war, pls keep quiet n let others speak.
Thanks.
They really are not our Ogas.
Whether they are in uniform or the elected ones in civilian clothes, this is a favoured bunch that Nigeria has been very good to promising service to their country. One section even has to swear on the bible/Koran before they get appointed. For each one of them that you see on TV or in the newspapers, many who were probably better than them have either died in a coup attempt, lost lives in the the civil war, lost an election, died in a military operation, frustrated out of service unjustly or just denied service because of some other factors.
The point here; it is a fortuitous circumstance to be in a position to serve your motherland under our current conditions as it could easily have swung the other way. It is good fortune to be in a position where your performance affects other people’s destinies and basic existence for good or bad. Every good fortune challenges the recipient to give back to the society that saw him worthy or the God that threw up the opportunity.
This is how we should view public service.
Now Hofstede has described societies like ours with large Power Distance and low Uncertainty Avoidance index as having a tendency to accept ineffectiveness and a significant measure of corruption from public servants with disastrous consequences for almost every demographic of society and this is why we are still struggling with a local insurgency that should have been wiped out in its first year and still talking all the ”ogas know best” talk. The only saving grace in Nigeria’s case at least is our Individualism and high Masculinity which is higher than all African countries and is the favourite subject of many social researchers. These are the two social qualities we should play up and use to benefit. If we don’t want to change things violently the way the terrorists do, at least let us we should shout and comment freely about it with all our typical Nigerian ‘swag’ .
News from the GCM:
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/59-soldiers-face-death-for-refusing-to-fight-boko-haram/191434/
“In his testimony, Opurum told the court that he had four officers and 98 soldiers who were fit under his command on August 4, 2014, having received orders to advance on Delwa and hold the location as part of an operation to capture the other towns.
He stated that the advance was important to clear the enemy along the route for the forward passage of troops from the 251 and 252 Battalions to proceed to capture Bulabulin.
He recounted that “on August 3, 2014, my battalion was tasked to advance to Delwa, clear the enemy along the route and capture Delwa to enable 251 and 252 Battalions to take over Bulabuli and Dabwa.
“The operation was to start at 0500 hours and if my battalion failed, the operation would fail. Six Hilux vehicles, one APC were available for the operation.
“The drivers refused to drive because they disembarked, but later advanced with four officers and 29 men with me making 30 of us, and Delwa was captured without any casualty”.
He further revealed that the General Officer Commanding (GOC) on hearing what happened, ordered the arrest of the soldiers who refused to join the operation.
He added that on August 18, his location was attacked by the insurgents who overpowered his men due to their numerical advantage and superior fire power.”
So, out of a possible 103 officers and soldiers, only 30 were willing and able to advance. That is one rotten company.
This begs the question, doesn’t the Lt. Col. In charge of the battalion know his own men? Is this lack of knowledge or distance from his own men a by product of how 7Div was put together?
111 Battalion must be an auxiliary/support battalion with only one combat company. Does anybody know why out of more than 800men, only what appears to be a company was available for combat?
The COs have been reshuffled a lot in the last three years that and then the 7Div is a composite division so it is not surprising that a new CO may not know his men. The 7 Div was one big mistake and the departed COAS should be invited by the National Assembly to explain why things became so chaotic. As for 111 battalion, it might have been a new one just being ‘assembled’ in usual chaotic manner with soldiers taking accumulated annual leave, medical issues or unnecessary training before resuming. This incomplete unit was obviously unwisely being pressed into battle which is not unsuThe major problem I see are ”…the drivers refused to drive…”, “..only 30 men were willing..” which is indicative of a real big problem. All attempts to oppose these military court martial tribunals by civil society groups should be resisted robustly. The NA legal advisory team should combat all legal challenges on the grounds of jurisdiction up to the supreme court. If you want to destroy a country, start with the military.
I don’t know if any one noticed, the unit is a battalion in name, a company in personnel and less than a platoon in fighting vehicles. Even though the soldiers committed an offence, the remote cause has to be fixed. There is a serious need to re equip the army. obviously the poor equipment state demoralised the men and led to the act of mutiny
The story don get K LEG
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/national-news/183144-trial-of-59-soldiers-for-alleged-mutiny-continues-thursday
They rejoined there COMRADES when the c.o. called for reinforcements and were crucial to repelling the bh insurgents, A soldier cannot determine what order they should obey and what order they should disobey especially when both orders are legitimate and non criminal in nature and are extremely crucial at the war front,
Did they disobey orders? you damn right they did, should they be punished most def, did they eventually put themselves in harms way and do their job they did, this is the dilemma .
“So, out of a possible 103 officers and soldiers, only 30 were willing and able to advance. That is one rotten company.
This begs the question, doesn’t the Lt. Col. In charge of the battalion know his own men? Is this lack of knowledge or distance from his own men a by product of how 7Div was put together?”
The creation of the 7th division was not / and is not a bad idea it actually is something that was going to happen bh just hastened it. The implementation of it is what is wrong, going back to ww2 when the 82 nd division was formed, every newly created division has it’s problems through to the civil war when the 3rd division was formed.
Let us go back to the brutally frank statements by the coas ” some people believe the ARMY is an employment agency and when they were put introduced to the real hazards of the job did not live up to the expectations required of them.
The 7th has undergone quite a lot of reorganization since the dark days of August more officers who fought in LIBERIA AND SIERRA LEONE have been transferred to the 7 div but it will take time and a div that barely started 2 years ago will have problems especially as it fights an insurgency with a land mass spanning three countries and only recently being equipped heck we are still just training tankers now.
The 7 div was put together from a mixture of the 1st, 3rd and some troops from Lagos 81st. The problem stems not from that but from leadership and putting the right people in the right places of authority at the right time.
The men that rejoiced their comrades after initially refusing the order to deploy have partially repaired the damage they caused by refusing orders. But only partially.
When you have 100men, the commander and the ordinary soldier needs to know that they can count on a 100men, not 30.
******* Confirmed news.
There are at-least 24 Nigerian Tank crews currently undergoing training in the city of khakiv in the Ukraine, this I can confirm. I cannot tell if these crews are training for the T-84 Oplot or the T-72.
Thanks Oga Henry.
Please can you confirm that you mean 24 x 3 men, Not 24 men.
Oga Asorock, I can confirm 24 men. I do not know the technical details. I can confirm 24 Nigerian tank crews are currently in khakiv, ukraine.
That is, 24 Nigerian men, who are MBT crew members.
I can also confirm Nigeria got 4 BTR-3E’s from ukraine in 2013.
Thanks. Hopefully these 24 men are actually trainers themselves and will come hope to train the rest of the tank crews
Thank you Oga Henry
Heart warming news to an otherwise dreary morning .Either way oga asorock it is at least confirmation we are going to get TANKS T72s or T 84S with i hope E.R.A on them.
Sometime to lift the spirits, Oga jimmy.
Interesting news
Good news. 24 men to me is 24 tank crews ready for war. The other crewmen learn on the the job and far better than the way BH learnt to drive stolen the APCs.
We need to start using the tanks as SPs, using their 4km range guns to good effect the same way mobile artillery operates and take out concentrations of the enemy so as to clear the ways for the MRAPs and Hilux 4WD.
Tank crew or Tank Technicians/Mechanics or Trainers?
When you want to induct a new MBT you
(1) Train mechanics on repairs,maintenance,etc=Done Abroad
(2) Train commanders/Trainers on improved field tactics to maximize new capacities- This is usually=Done at home and Abroad
(3) Train crew trainers on basic use and maneuvers =done at home
24 guys are too meager, to be the crew with 3 per vehicle- that will result into 8 MBTs only. They are most likely technicians. Few new MBTs are already in the country and crew training must have commenced for transition from Vickers to T72 for weeks!
More BTR 3 should be coming.
Oga Henry, actually those are army engineers who came for a 2 week course at the KRAZ Auto company. http://www.e-news.su/news/29493-v-harkov-pribyli-amerikanskie-naemniki-negry.html Concerning the 4 units BTR-3E’s, i reported that a long time ago with pictures….The APC were for the NPF.
I don’t understand one word of Ukrainian, but I suspect that the lady doing the commentary in the video wasn’t too please:
“… what are they doing in Ukraine …”
My innate sense of communication tells me she said that 🙂
@Oga Asorockweb. She’s complaining that these are black mercenaries coming to fight on the side of the Ukrainian army. She was cursing in Russian 🙂 Ignorance!
Haha, that is hilarious
Quite possible. Her voice sounded cold, maybe it is the late coming winter just setting in or something.
Ukrainians need to be educated on the big earnings their country is making from all the technology, hardware and training that they are selling to Nigeria. It is a win-win situation and somebody should tell them that. They need money for the conflict with Russia.
We on the other hand have our own Armoured Corps Centre and School at Bauchi that we should quickly upgrade to meet requirements of supporting the 21stntraining and battlefield tactical requirements of our armoured corps so that we don’t have to take ***t from anybody.
Oga Obix, is Auto Kraz plant in khakiv?
Oga Henry, no. It’s in Kremenchuk. I think they came through Kharkiv, lodged in a hotel and then moved on to Kremenchuk.
From the post of the Ukrainian, he called them tank crews, under going training.
Oga Henry what link is that? I just found out that they arrived Kharkov from Kremenchuk. The video was shot in front of the hotel they were about to check in. It’s very possible they visited the Malishev tank factory. Ukrainian blogs are awash with different provocative information concerning the video. I’ll get the full info about this visit to Kharkov soonest.
These appears to be regular Police/Army technicians fulfilling the training portion of an earlier agreement involving the shipping of 100 units of KrAZ- 5233VE SWAT truck to Nigeria in 2008. This is exactly what the content of the link says.
The last part of the writeup say- they were shipped 2008 and the police complained about maintenance issues since.
My oga Solarex, that must have been some google translation stuff. Actually it says that in 2008 KRAZ built and supplied 100 units of KrAZ- 5233VE 4×4 trucks. SInce then there hasn’t been any complains from Nigeria. From one of the pictures in my link you can see that these are NA engineers.
Oga Obix, since the link is in cyrilic characters, it’s proving difficult to find. However, the Ukrainian did say the Nigerians are Tank crew personnel.
Sorry about the derail and I know my ogas on top have told me to quit bringing it up but one of the ogas wanted clarity/ eh / huh / it get as e be/ she said / he sadi
http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/16/319.html
Just for one second could it be that someone is pissed that $1b+ went sent somewhere else? or could it be those 1200 military personnel went somewhere else or this is actually the first solid confirmation that since 01-02/2014 NAIJA dey buy.
OGA OBIX /Henry if these guys are Engineers they are likely to be a combination of Mechanical/ Electrical Engineers
SPECULATION TIMES
methinks this would mean we are getting either the oplot because its systems will be most different from what we have T-55 or an upgraded version of the T-72
Sorry I meant he said.
oga AREJAMES
Them owe BORIS $1.5 B them they do them yanga say them go join e.u.( DEBT ARE US) .eu tell them say them go give them loan but make una hold on to that membership we nefer give turkey membership for almost 20 years nah una wey dey broke ass we go give membership too …. mchew make una go hug transformer.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/armed-forces-remembrance-day-fg-orders-military-hospitals-treat-retired-soldiers-free/
Reinforced Boko Haram Sect Launches Coordinated Attacks In Damaturu
See there has been several patterns of reinforcement when battered in the past. We must prevent further at a politically volatile period like 2015.
That sounds like victory to me. Meanwhile, Damaturu needs a determined CJTF outfit – that usually stops these kinds of inner city attacks.
Infiltration at night possibly. I am pretty sure many actors in gov’t want this war to go on till 2016, what I can’t still understand now is why?. God help Nigeria’
You accuse me of Spamming?well forgive me for ruining your sense of security with my incessant sense of urgency, my work here is done. As we speak lives are being lost. We cannot influence change by being redundant. The media is the only way we can effect change as citizens yet to think some will echo support for the government calling for regulations or censorship of the social media, the power of the people and the nightmare of the authorities is unbelievably. Apologies if my sense of urgency for action sounds vile to the ear, lets hope our leaders get it right, for your sake and mine.
Ride on brother.
I have no issues with your sense of emergency, There is an emergency !!!.
As long as we all stick to factual analysis, I believe, we are all making a worthy contribution.
Let’s leave the conspiracy theories, and deal with what facts on the ground we can tease out from Nigeria’s utterly useless press, as well as our shady and unnecessarily secretive government.
As for me, I am commenting less, chiefly cause of my recent work load.
However, I have rendered my own analysis, for 3 years, and I am just watching helplessly as they ALL COME TO FRUITION, whether my fore sight is acknowledged or not.
Since folks ain’t listening anyway, I will blog when I am inspired to, not out of a delusional need to alert our authorities, that are hard of hearing.
Damaturu metropolis attacked again…How was an infiltration of this magnitude possible? Where was the DSS? This just confirms my fears that the group has not been properly infiltrated by the DSS..Simple..It seems all the DSS is useful for these days is VIP Protection..Right now, massive amounts of raw cash should be doled out to the SSS for systematic infiltration of the very top echelon of this sect..We can fight an insurgency without proper intelligence..How can dozens of insurgents just waltz into Damaturu?
*can’t fight.
Ceasefire between Nigeria and Boko-haram negotiated,talks over release of the girls ongoing.
News also reported on channels TV.
http://www.ogtv.com.ng/boko-haram-negotiates-ceasefire-chibok-girls-release-in-saudi-arabia/
BBC are reporting it as well:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-29665165
It’s about time they gave up, the Nigerian Military was slaughtering them. I don’t see the point in engaging anyone in battle, when you’re reporting such high casualty rates. They should surrender their weapons, and be all imprisoned.
oga are abeg what do you have to say about the j-10 fighter mehn 11 hardpoints.if the su flankers are hard for us to obtain y dont we go for this .any maintenance issues
The J10 is the aircraft Nigeria was initially love with. NAF delegations have inspected static displays of the aircraft and watched them flying. To buttress the points, the question was asked by the owner of this blog why the Chinese who owned the original technology were not going to buy the JF17 but instead were standardizing on J10 if that was not a tacit admittance of the superiority of J10. However the ‘restricted’ combat radius (less than 600km) were later called into question and everybody cooled on the J10 because it would not have given the power projection capability that was needed. However we now know that JF17 Blocks I and II don’t have better combat radius so I think the J10 would be a good buy. There is no major foreseeable maintenance problem with the Russian engine, the fly-by-wire has 400% redundancy, Chinese and Israeli avionics and radar.
Why is Nigeria not buying the aircraft?. Political will.
I don’t believe Nigeria is being manipulated or conspired against on the international arena when it comes to defence acquisitions. I believe the FG is simply lacking the will, the leadership of the NAF not ready for the responsibility and our Ministry of Finance is simply not ready for the higher operating costs these machines will pile on the budgets in terms of preventive maintenance, training and operations.
News from the GCM:
“In his revelation, Saleh said the soldiers being tried for mutiny were his soldiers and that they were inducted into the ‘Operation Zamin Lafia’ on September 19, and detached from 101 battalion into the 111 special forces unit.”
Who is surprised that the men in question actually came from the now famous ‘101’ reserve battalion? Am not.
The GCM has now gone secret; sad.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/mutiny-trial-of-59-soldiers-to-take-place-behind-closed-doors/191499/
This is how we roll in Nigeria.
All the remaining Shekaus will end up as billionaires, terrorists in prison will be released, granted amnesty and given safe havens. Chibok girls will be taken abroad to give birth to their babies. Everything forgiven and forgotten. If you are a poor struggling civilian in the NE who has lost loved ones and livelihood to BokoHaram, all we can say is SORRY.Bloggers meanwhile can keep on praising.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-boko-haram-reach-ceasefire-agreement/191512/
I am not sure there’s enough information in the article.
We’re fucked
Hehe he…….
Let us wait and see. I will reserve all comments till further notice.
damnnnnn
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/fg-boko-haram-may-reached-cease-fire-deal-voa/
We should know by the end of today. This appears to be the REAL REASON why NO military
OFFENSIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN, However why Dumaturu was attacked may indicate either a pathetic last gasp or God forbid a splinter group. This is going to be a very interesting weekend GENTLEMEN fasten your seat belts.
That attack on Damaturu was in 2013.
http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-negotiating-cease-fire-release-of-abducted-girls/
The news is now going viral it is being reported by mainstream newspapers like the punch.
I am going to be restrained in my comments till the details of this deal come out and the girls are released.
Damaturu was NEVER attacked.That link quoted by @Oje was oct 2013.
Meanwhile, we haven’t gotten much details about the “Seize Fire”, but if its true, i assume they hold on to their occupied villages & towns, swines like Kabir, Abu qaqa 1/2, Modu bukar etc will walk free…. Am forced to say this in my mother-tongue *O SU MI OOO!!!* Dont mean to be an alarmist, but bet it peeps, we aint seen anything yet. Post Feb. 2015 will be ……
Boko Haram holding onto territory would imply that they were/are negotiating from a position of strength, which they are not.
I think the ceasefire is similar to what we had in the Niger Delta, they lay down their arms, and they won’t be killed. Simple!
Well this weeks analysis was on the Cameroun hostage release and how it made the probability of a dry season offensive almost certain. Now it is a definite.
When they are under pressure both in Cameroun and here, just as w finally get the legal and admin structure sorted out for the multi national force, Cameroun gives them several key commanders and $400k, one of the released guys was their arms dealer sourcing their weapons. Now we have essentially conceded ground to insurgents.
I a struggling to recall any truces with Biafra, yet we have truces with these bastards.
We have not even heard a confirmation from them or established if all factions are signed up or even if the negotiators have communications with footsoldiers.
Will they release all hostages? Will they withdraw from all towns to defined concentration areas? Will they surrender all heavy weapons, crew served weapons and vehicles? Will they renounce violence and accept the rule of secular, constitutional law? Will they begin demobilisation?
If yes, then when and who guarantees it?
If not then what the fuck are we doing?
A truce?
A fucking truce with Boko Haram?
Will the FGN pardon the convicted mutineers? Release theMASSOB footballers?
I just tire
Well I should not write with anger but please mark my words, we are in trouble, we are in serious trouble. The only terms to be offered to Boko Haram is surrender or die, nothing else.
Anyway at least our leaders can but themselves another jet to celebrate
Seconded. 100%.
“‘No truces were even contemplated with Biafra”
*Words on Marble*
*CEASEFIRE*
I’m not surprised to hear this news welcome to nigeria where everything is possible ,soon captured terrorists will be released back into d society and given lucrative contracts and those who lost loved ones and whose means of livelihood hs been shattered will hv to take solace cos nig ‘s govt is one fucked corrupt entity. Enuf said abeg
I F THIS CEASE FIRE IS TRUE:
The political ramifications will be felt through the width and breadth of Nigeria it will further cement two very crucial points in Nigeria’s minds
1) This truly is the weakest President Nigeria has truly had aided and abetted by spineless politicians who have truly sold themselves to the devil.
2) The Military Leadership have a lot to hold their heads in collective shame because they would of handed this rag tag outfit a victory they so desperately needed and they could not acheive on the battlefield.
3) This administration needs to be voted out of office and will be because they have mortgaged their souls to boko haram and Nigeria’s collective security and once their commanders are released they will do the only thing they know cause mayhem this is not MEND this is boko haram no rhyme or reason they kill people with impunity till they themselves are killed .
4) IF THIS CEASE FIRE IS TRUE my OMO ISALE EKO INSTINCTS TELL ME TO WEEP FOR NIGERIA, my gut instincts tell me that”Winter is here” , Today is not a good day except for the enemies of Nigeria.
Why negotiate a ceasefire now? When the army is finally tipping the scales? I’m sure this won’t go down well with the military..How many men have we lost? I hope this flimsy arrangement breaks up soon so that the boys can get to work..Is it because the FG is so desperate to secure the release of the Chibok girls to ensure a smooth 2015 campaign? If I were the COAS, I would tender my resignation by monday morning.
This is trouble. A dangerous mistake. A group of (child molesters) terrorist occupy a section of the North East, seize not a few military hardware, killed some of our finest men in uniform/thousands of innocent Nigerians and we are negotiating with them? This is weakness. And terrorist thrives on weakness and fear. Effectively they have bought time, and secured money, they will take their time and then attack with vengeance. This is bad.
I’m just hoping its a hoax and DHQ will deny it
It is the entire political class my friend, PDP, APC, ..XYZ.
When you are a Senator earning $1.5million a year in Nigeria, what are you?.
You are a soul less, dead, rich man walking. I am still waiting for the usual praises and messages of sympathy for ”our Ogas”.
Baden himself announced it.
Lets wait till the government officially announces this cease fire. It does not make sense, why ceasefire when the heat is on BH? Makes no sense at all.
Anyway, lets wait and see, this will not be the first time we’ve heard of a ceasefire with BH…
Very demoralizing news, but make we siddon look first…
http://news.yahoo.com/nigeria-reaches-deal-boko-haram-over-abducted-girls-145413509.html
Boko Haram shall betray all ! even Chad where the girls are kept. Nigeria just watch as all manipulates it like a game of chess.
If this cease-fire is true, then it will be a disgraceful pity.
A rag tag group of insurgents brought the “giant of Africa” to it’s knees.
A group of cut throats killed 30,000 nigerians, seized territory, and the Nigerian army had no answer to it.
We couldn’t even re-take territory taken by boko haram???WTF?
A great shame.
What stops the next organization from starting it’s own war and be-heading people???
Ombatse, OPC, IPC,MASSOB, IZM, ACF, MOSOP etc.
This is a fu..ing disgrace-
Let me sound a note of warning to the Nigerian government…
Trust Boko Haram @ your own peril…
My Ogas, let’s wait for the details of the deal. Let’s not rush to judgement .
@Obix
I always admire your maturity and patience.
However, you and I know that the exact details of this deal you and I will never know. You and I will merely wake up one day and things will have happened then you and I will know.
Sorry about the long prose, it was deliberate.
Baba Are James, you are right. Like they say, some things will be told and some will never be. As the days go by we’ll be in the position to analyze the situation to get a clear picture! I strongly believe that the FG is on the driver’s seat in these negotiations!
I really hope so T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
GEN MEN PLS LETS NOT BURST A VAIN YET. I CAN TAINTATIVELY GUARANTEE THAT THE INSURGENCE OFFERED A CHEEFIRE INCLUDING THE RELEASE OF THE ABDUCTED GIRLS, AND THE FG ONLY OBLIGED THEM … THIS IS NOT AMNESTY OR PEACE DEAL YET
BH will always use what it has at hand to get what it needs.
It has the girls, it wants a ceasefire, our leaders obliged.
You are right though, I am willing to wait a few hours for more details. But chances are that after a few hours, I will have to tell this government what I really think.
Even if it’s an ordinary ceasefire, Boko haram is using the opportunity to re-strategize and re-arm.
And identify new leaders or get their old leaders in exchange.
Either way, this is complete trash.
Rumours about a Monday 20/10/2014 release of the girls in Chad would seem to confirm @Makanky’s post.
There’s something fishy bout idris deby and boko haram
And his godfather, Ali Modu Sheriff.
I said on the other post where everyone was dribbling about invading Cameroun and France that the true country to watch is Chad. Cameroun’s issue is ‘head in the sand’ and settlement culture. Chad is actively involved in machinations for its own reasons
Oga p There were only two people who were letting their imagination run wild while the rest of us rolled our eyes. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Indeed Oga Jimmy, I was being hyperbolic.
Lol T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Negotiating for a cease fire with a group that murdered 50 school boys while on their bed, murdered christian worshipers on christmas day in church, murdered our fighting men and women who volunteered to fight so we may be free, killed thousands, brought the name of Nigeria to disrepute, still holds territory and after 5 years we are negotiating with a group that as of this writing still holds territory.. meen Fela was right. DEMOCRACY does not work for large developing countries.. our social and cultural strata just does not support it. Because of a measly 2015 election our politicians are willing to toy with the lives of Nigerians by negotiating with the very group whose gruesome rampage in Nigeria makes the Nazi Holocaust look like a christmas party. Women, kids,mothers,even reporters have been killed.. Oya they should negotiate with them. First Niger Delta, then Boko Haram, after the election break lets continue Season 3. Violence pays in Nigeria.. the more violent you are, the more you get what you want from the government.
What are they supposed to do? Fight them to every last one of them is dead? When does that ever happen in combat? Boko Haram wanted to give up, so the government obliged, the conflict is over, they’ll lay down their arms, release the girls and that’s it.
Jeez. You actually believe this is so simple?
BokoHaram has just successfully exploited the Chibok girls capture in a way every informed observer was expecting and you dismiss it as just ”wanting to give up”.
For Christsakes this is a group that has just been paid hundreds of thousands $s by the Cameroonians. Is it not conceivable that they would have asked for a lot of other things from our own end?. So what are those things?, what price are we going to pay in terms of national humiliation and money to provide those things ?. These are the questions.
What if they ask for authority to administer places they have captured? or some idiotic amnesty terms involving safe havens where they can practice their sect religion?
So many things unclear and to make everything all the more incomprehensible, even the gov’t statement mentioned only one faction of Boko Haram. So I beg to disagree. That is not IT.
The only good coming out of this is the girls are being RELEASED finally but it is a terrible price to pay in terms of our pride.
The added fact that Chad is now playing a prominent geo political, big brother role should also be extremely annoying to anybody who knows what Nigeria used to be. Remember it was GEJ who had to go visit the guy. Years ago je would have come with a large delegation to beg. Is it just me or has easy money and corruption eroded all our brains and pride in this country?.
Nigeria na waa oh !
The Federal Government, through the Nigerian military, had on Friday said that it had agreed to a ceasefire with the violent sect and that the Chibok girls would soon be released.
The deal was announced by the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Marshal Alex Badeh.
The military has struggled to defeat Boko Haram sect which began attack against Nigeria since 2009.
Badeh said, “A ceasefire agreement has been concluded between the Federal Government and the Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’awati wal Jihad (Boko Haram).”
He said the agreement was reached after one month of negotiations in Saudi Arabia. The negotiation was said to have been headed by the Chadian President Idriss Deby.
Tukur and Danladi Ahmadu, who calls himself the Secretary-General of Boko Haram, told VOA’s Hausa-language service that the abducted girls would be released on Monday in Chad.
The girls are alive and “in good condition and unharmed,” Ahmadu said.
The Defence Headquarters, however, directed all service chiefs to stop further offensive against the Boko Haram sect.
The Chief of Defence Staff said that he had directed the service chiefs to comply with the ceasefire agreement..
Badeh said, “Without any prejudice to the outcome of our three days interactions, and the conclusions of this forum, I wish to inform this audience that a ceasefire agreement has been concluded between the Federal Government of Nigeria and the Allul Sunna Li Daawa Waj Jihad.
“I have accordingly directed the service chiefs to ensure immediate compliance with this development in the field.”
Decisions reached at the conference include joint border patrol, intelligence sharing and how to handle internally displaced persons.
The decision to suspend the counter terrorist operation followed a ceasefire agreement between the Federal Government and representatives of the Boko Haram Sect at Ndjamena, the Chadian Capital.
The Director of Defence Information, Maj.-Gen Chris Olukolade, said that what the “ceasefire means is that there would be no fire.”
When one of our correspondents asked him if the current development would affect troop deployment in the North-East, he stressed that there would be cessation of hostilities in consonance with the terms of the agreement.
Saturday PUNCH learnt that the Ministry of Special Duties led by Saminu Turaki and the Office of the National Security Adviser played a crucial role in the realisation of the ceasefire agreement.
An intelligence source said that the decision to negotiate in earnest with the Boko Haram was taken during the President Jonathan’s meeting with his Chadian counterpart, Mr. Idris Derby, in Ndjamena, on Monday, September 8, 2014.
http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-ceasefire-sect-to-release-218-chibok-girls-on-monday/
The big final offensive by Nigerian military, is hereby SUSPENDED !
What happens to the current wave of weapons and equipment procurement including contracts signed recently?
The question first of all is where is our $2bn?.
They can’t give them land, cede territory or give them authority to govern any region of Nigeria because of the precedence it would set for the country.
Do to so would be tantamount to encouraging insurgencies all across the country, and that’s exactly what the government would get, widespread conflicts across the entire nation.
If you listen to the Nigerian Government Official on the yahoo news page, he said as such, that Nigeria would NEVER cede territory to anyone. They’ve (Boko Haram) agreed to stop the fighting for the sake of peace. They are tired of fighting and tired of dying, simple as that.
My opinion, get all Chibok girls on Monday and ascertain they are complete.
After that Nigerian government should :
Demand Boko Haram surrender all MEN and WEAPONS
Disclose all SPONSORS
Give up all captured territory
Announce full surrender on radio, TV, and many social media including you-tube
Tell the truth about all atrocities and executions of unarmed people as well as disclose all those members who committed war crimes
Disclose all FIFTH COLUMNISTS inside Nigerian military and Police
Disclose all POLITICIANS and COUNTRIES who sponsor or sympathize with them
Disclose all links with foreign organizations like Al-Qaeda, etc
Disclose all caves, holes, escape routes existing, disclose location of members outside Nigeria
Declare on Radio / TV in Hausa, Fulani, and Kanuri language that they fought an unjust war and non-Islamic crusade/fake Jihad.
If the above conditions are not fully met, the big final offensive should take place.
My Ogas, I guess we shouldn’t forget the reason we are sending our men and women into the North East to fight, the reasons we have been making changes to our Armed Forces, the reasons we have had to endure countless embarrassments, and disparaging media stories about Nigeria, its government and people. That single reason is peace!
If the BH as it stands have realised they could not win this fight, and maybe some groups within the coalition have decided to have a rethink, then that is something positive out of an otherwise sad chapter in our history. Remember how bad it used to be in the Niger-Delta until Yar’Dua’s government began to dialogue with some of the militants who wanted peace, the rest is history.
The good thing, based on the fact the cease fire was announced publicly by a military chief with direct access and authority on this issue, is that we could confidently believe that what was announced is true and solid if not the highest authorities in the military would not have gone public on this.
My only worry is, will the BH keep to the terms of this agreement especially in releasing the Chibok girls which would have been a win-win situation for all the parties involved. It would have made more sense if the authorities had wanted until the girls are released before going public with the details. All the same fingers crossed. The BH may have realised the table is turning against them, in that case whatever negotiations they enter into, they do so from a weakened position while unlike a few months back, the Nigerian authorities have the momentum and are able to negotiate from a position of strength. Maybe BH leaders are not stupid and dull after all, as the Tamil Tigers, and Savimbi’s Unita realised, when the chips are down, peace (or at least a semblance of it) becomes the only sensible weapon.
Nigeria’s claim to being the regional hegemon have all but evaporated, really can we claim to be the dominant power in West Africa? if so on what grounds? Diplomatically Nigeria has never been this irrelevant, weak and confused, i liken President Jona to Jimmy Carter, naive and lacking any cohesive national plan except to vehemently contest for re election. A cease fire with a rag tagged group like Boko Haram is nothing but a defeat for the Nigerian military, and i can tell you we can as well shove aside any dream of a massive rearmament programme. The Nigerian Pride which frankly is the only thing we benefit for being Nigerians have been smeared in mud and it will take years if not a decade for Nigeria to restore its lost glory and our army might never even recover from the humiliating defeat.There’s no single army that has tasted adversity on the African continent more than the Nigerian army. From Liberia to Sierra Leon to Ivory Coast, Somalia, Sudan, this is the most combat experienced peace time army in Africa, we should be in a league of our own, instead we are the laughing stock of the world.
Oga Oje. I respect your hustle sir.
Nigeria doesn’t claim to be a regional hegemon, Nigeria is a continental superpower, that’s a fact no human being can disprove oga. We do not have to cast aspersions because we do not get our way all the time, i understand that you are supposedly disappointed at the actions taken by the government, but we can do nothing but support till the very end, support every decision and action, unless you are opportuned to actually change the course of things, rather than talk. Undue pride is not needed, it’s not warranted, because, again we’ve got nothing to prove. Undoubtedly, Nigeria’s going through a phase in history and it behooves us to peruse and understand the variables at play here. Whats wrong with sitting down to talk, whats wrong with Chad, Cameroon and other neighboring countries helping out in ways which they can. Only a human so narcissistic would think that he and she alone has the answers to all that ails the world today. We must be willing to learn, we must be willing to listen. This supposed ceasefire doesn’t change the fact that we still need the requisite machinery to prosecute future engagements, it doesn’t mean that the Nigerian security forces all of a sudden become blind to the obvious, we wont let that happen, we should continue to push for modernization and a full fledged military industrial complex. I gracefully disagree with your insinuations about Nigeria’s diplomatic efforts, setting up a multi national task force that enables information sharing and free movement within contiguous borders is no mean feat, its not moimoi, it takes careful planning. We know who the enemy is, its not our neighboring countries, its that ragtag group that you talk about, so allies should not be discounted, when our interests align, we forge relationships to help bring about results. Oga, this your Nigeria bashing will not achieve your dream objectives, so please, be retrospect with your words, understand that claiming to know it all, and wanting to bomb everything into submission is the precise definition for undue hubris. There is a time for everything, key into the program and support, otherwise do not lash out unjustly.
The ceasefire was necessary for the girls but there is no way to cast this has victory. Let us be realistic. Too much has been lost by the Nigerian side in terms of lives and economic ruin and BH will most likely walk. We may have also lost some mystique and the respect of Chad and Cameroon. What we must continue to do is proffer suggestions on how to vastly improve the armed forces using all the lessons learnt otherwise other insurgent groups may derive negative inspiration from all that has happened. We also have to subsequently deploy enough military capability to be able to project power in the pursuit of our interests from now on.
So much for ceasefire. Just know that since then they’ve gone on to attack communities.Friday night and Saturday morning.
Impunity continues…
I try to imagine what the terms of the ceasefire discussions would be because there is no clear middle ground for both parties. I have a funny feeling there will soon be a shekau video debunking the ceasefire and further embarrassing Nigeria or the discussion is a ploy for BH to buy time for reorganisation and to restrategize. Both are lose lose to Nigeria.
It never made any sense in the first place.Rudderless murdering bastards with no deciphenable objectives committing carnage, killing thousands abductions, macabre killing of our own soldiers on media suddenly declared ‘ceasefire’ or a derivative of it. And it was agreed sharp,sharp…? Talk about hook,line and sinker!
After Supposed fake rescues, denials inspite of evidence, SA arms scandals and more, it’s now officially the ‘8th wonder of the world’ how no one has managed to lose their jobs.
Now here comes another…
If they did attack communities and I have no reason to doubt your word.This is what the hardline faction of boko haram will do@ RDOkoye biko oga .Please let us wait till Monday let us see if we shall actually witness this release because with boko haram things are never as simple as they seem. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/boko-haram-strike-again-less-than-a-day-after-ceasefire/191586/
20 Bokos in 2 Toyotas is a very small force that could just be renegades who did not agree with others, for a force with different faction commanders, disagreement with ceasefire could be expected, and some stray dogs on the loose could bite and run. Nigerian Army should be at alert, and return fire only in defense. Let’s put offensive aside for now and try to QUICKLY GET ALL Chibok girls out of captivity first, after that, na we and dem Bokos o ! we go know who be final oga. My opinion.
Chibok girls release is top priority now, and for that reason alone ceasefire is worth it, this is the best chance we ever got to free the 218 girls. After we get our girls, we can talk about demanding full surrender on our own terms and conditions clearly spelt out to Boko Haram.
I wonder who was representing Boko Haram at the negotiation meetings in Saudi Arabia…..the dudes must be really close and how come? So trusted by a terrorist? Who are you yourself?
Anyway, we need the negotiators to get Chibok girls, but after that…..
” After we get our girls, we can talk about DEMANDING FULL SURRENDER on our own terms and conditions clearly spelt out to Boko Haram.”
You gotta be kidding me right? lol…ARE YOU SERIOUS? if its this easy to DEMAND FULL SURRENDER what have we been doing for the last five years wasting human lives and resources when we can simple DEMAND THEY SURRENDER.
There is no sweet way of putting it, Nigeria lost this one, i see this as buying time to allow them shop for arms with the money they just received and recruit more. Boko Haram is weak and spineless, if we launch one final offensive they will be finished, why fall for this cheap delay tactics?
Yes, but killing them all wouldn’t get the girls back, from my understanding, they’re not even in Nigeria, only a few are, if any.
So a full out offensive is only something that can be conceived after the release of the girls.
Girls? What about the 13,000 killed already? The school boys, elderlies, the pilot, the soldiers.. how is this justice? to come to settlements with these terrorists simply because they are tired and worn out and need respite from the daily pummeling they are received. I am not saying the girls should be given up as collateral, no but this Boko Haram War on the Nigerian people did not start with the girls and should not end with them. Yeah i sound insensitive i know but the truth is a bitter pill. Niger Delta Militants wrecked havoc and were rewarded with Amnesty with a yearly cost more than the defence budget, next came Boko Haram after 5 years of havoc and mayhem we are granting them ”behind the scene” amnesty and freedom and god knows what else they are being offered behind the scene, all because they are tired? Last Year the government offered them Amnesty and they bluntly refused. If this is the trend im afraid we are gonna see more and more militant activities like this in the future, its inevitable.
Good reasoning. The truth is we have very poor quality people in gov’t. No ****ing apologies to anybody. A lot of things inconceivable in some countries are normal in Nigeria including some deliberate subversion of fundamental principles of state policy by the government out of cowardice, corruption and the occasional political expediency.
The current Attorney General is not serving the President well. Granted there are no easy decisions in gov’t, which is why sometimes lawyers are just the right people to take public office but the impression you still get of gov’t is short term, street hustler type thinking over deep strategizing which is very unfortunate. The worst example of brain dead decisions of the past was illegally ceding Bakassi to Cameroon by General Gowon. The recent ones were the actual giving it away by Obj and the kid glove treatment of BokoHaram by the current gov’t. These events have not done us good but merely shown weakness and encouraged increased challenge to Nigeria’s military by state and non-state actors. Now BH that signed ceasefire is still killing. All the guys doing praise and worship can continue and good luck to them but for me it is like we are in final year University and displaying the mentality of a fifth grader.
Nigeria has all it takes to be a global player. Just imagine this North/South Christian/Muslim PDP/ANPP divide was non existent. Imagine if Northern politicians encouraged its people to acquire education, imagine if Kano (Lagos of the North) was as industrialized as the South, imagine if the $500 million we make from selling crude every single day was used to provide basic infrastructure, electricity, good roads, good railway networks to decongest the roads, well trained and well paid police officers, a good legal system where the rights of every citizen comes first, its scary to imagine how powerful and strong this nation can become, its the bona fide leader of the black race with the distinction f having both the biggest muslim and christian population in Africa. Dubbed the most enterprising, confident (most Africans mistake this for arrogance) and free spirited people on Earth boasting the richest black man and woman in the world. Imagine if we could settle our differences and not allow outside manipulations of our ethnic and religious divide, Nigeria would have a GDP of $2 trillion by now with an army of 500,000 men and a very powerful Navy of destroyers and submarines. Africa looked up to us as the only black candidate or hope for a fully developed and powerful African country. Where NATO will think twice before meddling in African affairs or engaging in regime change, where the Islamists will not dare export their vicious and crude religiofascist scheme. We have failed Africa, we have failed ourselves and we have failed those who fought and died for the Independence of this great potential Superpower.
@Oje you have said it all:
What about this ?
1. Boko Haram insurgency starts 5yrs ago as a rag tag group with limited reach and resources.
2. Sponsors are identified, invited to Abuja they deny and nothing is done.
3. 2012 Sambisa Forrest identified as their hide out and training camp.
4. Seleka a Muslim outfit over runs Central Africa Republic with Chad blessings.
5. Peace keeping force approved for CAR, Chad a member accused of bias and sponsor of the Seleka group.
6. Chad pressured to exit by France from its peace keeping effort in CAR, and created a safe heaven for Seleka in Chad
7. Modu Sherriff arrested and released in Cameroun with no reasons.
8. Boko Haram becomes more audacious and expand their reach plus attacking military facilities never heard of before now.
9. Borno Governor alleges that terrorist are better equip than our military, the military and Nigerians in denial
10. Opposition group alleges the Government knows the sponsors of BH.
11. Chibok girls abducted.
12. Military alleges it knows where the girls are kept ? probably true?
13. Government promises Nigerians they shall be rescued and brought back home.
14. Modu Sherriff joins the ruling party and promises to end BH
15. BH seizes territories and starts to defeat Nigerian soldiers in Battles.
16. Till date BH only attack Nigeria and Cameroun and not Chad or Niger.
17. Nigeria military retreat in battles and BH wins more grounds
17. Nigeria president and Modu Sherriff travels to Chad for an undisclosed reason
18. Nigeria military turns tide and starts to defeat BH in battles with very severe infliction of casualties on BH.
19. News of Chibok girls to be released in Chad and Chad as the negotiator.
20. We are all disillusioned, some angry and some happy as a Nation.
With this scenario above, so many questions will be asked which I am not going to do here, but Peccavi has always said Cameroun is not our problem but Chad, How can a nation, a neighbour holds our girls for so long and we are powerless.
I sincerely hope I am wrong but this is not good for Nigeria as a Nation,our image and pride has been dented which might take generation to fix, lets hope the girls are released as promised on Monday 20/10/2014.
However we need to fix 3 things (1) Our politics (2) Our military(3)Our intelligence outfit (SSS and DMI), they have failed Nigerians.
In that case we need to make plans for two military offensive. It’s obvious this Boko Haram ceasefire was for them to go on a commercial, now it’s game on. We should hit Chad with 10,000 men and hold strategic assets with our airborne paratroopers, their Mig 29 can’t do shit , no air to ground weapons, no air to air missiles, they cannot seriously hit us hard. As for Cameroon let’s watch and see, if Boko Haram resurfaces with better weapons then it will be obvious they were bankrolled by Cameroon and as such have the right to self defence. I say we hit them hard where it hurts their pride then return back to Nigeria. No occupying foot soldiers. France cannot retaliate, we have nothing to lose, we are already at war and backed against the wall.
You be hardliner sha. Invade Chad?.
My problem with that is that Chad is now lock, stock and barrel in the orbit of the US. Invade that country and they could take Nigeria apart in 3 months (no offence meant, i now agree it is possible), with the current gov’t we have now maybe they could take it apart even in one month.
The US is said to have some interesting intelligence and power projection assets in that country and Chad is going to play a growing part in their international defence and security strategies in the coming years. Another thing to realize is that they may actually want Nigeria’s NE, Chad and North Cameroon as part of a semi autonomous region under their protection and with all the new oil reserves there we would just be playing into their hands in that regard. They don’t really need the oil in the short term but they like to have presence where the black gold is.
Now, many years ago when we had the thirty somethings and forty somethings bright young military officers running the country, all options would have been debated in the SMC and intellectuals from NIIA and universities would have been invited to advise on ways forward on crafting appropriate responses to developing events in our neighbourhood but now all we do is go through local champions like a former governor of a NE state. These are the things that make you lose hope for the country’s direction.
Chad is ready for you just try it
Wow! I love the analysis being put out by fellow bloggers here. But seriously, there is more to this ceasefire that meets the eye. My major concern is chad’s role in all this. It is obvious that there is a sort of link between chad and boko haram. I am not suprised that the president of chad was involved in negotiations with the sect. What bothers me is how much our intelligence agenceies know about his involvement with the sect and what they are doing about it. For now, the logical thing is to support the government and hope all the loose ends were tied up.
THE ‘PRESIDENT’ FOR BOKO HARAM…..
Thieves no best where to find their fellow thieves.
http://www.osundefender.org/?p=190944
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*know best*
The writer Brimah has his own known agenda so there are question marks all over the article.
Most all he has written though have come up for mention on this blog. Unfortunately our ‘praise and worship’ fellow bloggers have shot them all down and we did not fully discuss the possible reasons why so much danger lurks now in our North east.
This Deby guy!!!…. very dangerous customer. He chose his new combat jets very carefully looking at our own capabilities and even mentioned Nigeria when he was commissioning the jets. He also has some impressive Chinese weapons for his army, all properly selected for the terrain. On top of that, the man also has friends in powerful places including two or three western world powers and the list may even now include China. Someone needs to look at oil concessions in that country to see how effectively China may have been wooed.
Our own military leadership may have cynically decided to disarm us but we shall soon know how true and the extent of that before the end of the year. Let all the ”praise and worship” people continue posting their one liners of patriotism without holding the responsible people to account while more worldly-wise (globalized) individuals, the smart set who think nationalism is a dead and irritating concept all smile to the Swiss banks.
Oga James how will an army of 19,000, zero Navy and tiny air firce tear Nigeria apart. I notuce since the Boko Haram debacle everyone now thinks even Togo will defeat us. First its Cameroon will finnish us and take Obudu, now Chad will tear us apart in three months? Im sure if Mali had not been overuned by terrorists you would have equated Mali to the task as well of defeating the Nigerian armed forces because afterall we care doing badly against non state actors like Boko Haram.,Is it not the same Chad that a few dozen Sudanese rebels destroyed 14 of its T55 Tanks, shot down its Mi-24 Hind helicopters and had it not been for Libyan strongman Gadaffi the rebels would have overun the country like they did in Mali.
Chads airforce
Fighters: 2 Su25, 3 Mig 29’s, 2 Mi-24 Hind,2 Mi8/17.This is the entirety of the Chadian airforce.
Nigerian airforce:
Fighters:
12 Chengdy F-7,
24 Alpha Jets,
18 MB 339A,
8 Mil Mi-35 Hind
Mil Mi-171SH
PATROL
2 ATR 42MP
TRANSPORT
5 Alenia G.222
5 C-130 Hercules
Now this is the present stock, its already ridiculously a mismatch, add the new Super Tucanos, 40 Helicopters and what ever other aircraft the government decides to procure you will see the Chadian airforce will not be able to hit any part of Nigeria even if their life depended on it. Now were not counting the Navy and army here, and by the way if you think the U.S Congress or American people will allow Obama drag itself into another war in Africa think again. Americans are already getting tired and angry because they are being mirred into another war in the middle east. The Nigerian airforce can take on the combined air force of Cameroon and Chad.
@Oje
Look at the ground forces order of battle. Your submission is based on the premise they will try to invade and capture the whole of Nigeria. What I am suggesting is that their forces are well equipped for the theatre they are targeting. Also the Chadian army once disgraced Gaddafi without using very ‘powerful’ weapons and when the French needed some dirty jobs against AQIM in Mali, it was the Chadian military they called upon. This is not a military to trifle with. I actually think the core BH leadership has some ex Chadian soldiers amongst them.
Oga Oje, you have minimized the Chadian orbat , and embellished that of Nigeria.
Chad has 3 mig – 29s, and 8 su-25. The google earth satellite pics, show them on the tarmac.
On the other hand, NAF does NOT have 24 Alpha jets. At the most, we have 13 surviving jets of the kind.
We have 12 MB-339 jets that have been missing in action for years.
So realistically, one should compare NAF’s 12 F-7NI, 13 Alpha jets and 14 L-39s versus chads 3 mig-29s and 8 su-25s.
NAF has the lead in quantity, Whereas Chad dominates in terms of quality and battle field impact.
Provided they have the requisite Merc pilots to fly their hardware.
Oga doziex, thanks for that comment. Oga Oje is just making himself feel good.
Oga Beegs and some of us here have posted Chad’s new arsenal a few months ago, and matched it against whatever weapons Nigeria has. My opinion, Chad has air superiority over Nigeria based on what is publicly known, and matches our army weapon for weapon, the only edge we have is larger infantry…..big infantry without protection will suffer mass murder. Chad has many battalions of Technicals mounted 23mm double turret guns that Nigerian infantry fears in battle.
Unless NAF has the Su-30 and JF-17 jets we have been hearing about but not officially declared, NAF has 11 F-7 jets due to losses/crashes, about 9 Alpha jets due to losses/crashes, about 6 L-39 jets due to many training crashes/maintenance neglect, all MBB-339 are not operational. Chad could use Ukrainian mercenary MiG-29 pilots like Ethiopia did against Eritrea.
Three Chadian MiG-29 jets will wipe out the whole Nigerian air force in one day, their missiles will wipe our F-7s in a few minutes, while their cannon will wipe out all Alpha jets and L-39 jets, then all NAF helicopters gunships will be eaten up for dinner in similar way.
Chad has enough anti-tank missiles to wipe out all Nigerian Vickers tanks in few hours.
Larger Nigerian infantry will be largely punished by Chadian Su-25 Frogfoots, unless our 30 year old Roland SAMs have ‘escaped’ expiry dates by miracle. You will see more deserting and mutiny from NA than you saw with Boko Haram.
World arms sales monitors have complained publicly that Chad has mastered the art of buying weapons from the eastern bloc and tactically escaping UN and other arms logs, so Chad has more weapons than you find on SIPRI or IISS.
Great mouth won’t win you a war, great weapons win. When you see a rabbit boasting before a fox, the rabbit may have a Beretta pistol hidden under the grass it is eating.
We have warned Nigerian government enough.
pls has oga beeg gone AWOL agian
If it was you nko?. You won’t fade with all that is happening?
Gentlemen, in my view, we should have kept fighting and only ceased fire with the release of the first batch of the Chibok gilrs. That way, our military would have looked good and BH would have known that it has to demonstrate good faith. This ceasefire in the middle of annihilating BH seems fishy, and indeed, we will be delusional to think that BH has been able to surivive for this long without the support of at least one regional sovereign power…Whatever happens from now on, the NAF MUST be equipped to the hilt. Anything short of that will be a tragedy for Nigeria!
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/soldiers-kill-25-boko-haram-recover-arms-fresh-attack-damboa/ Don’t knw what to make of this ”truce” anymore
A Buffalo APC was recovered.
Nice.
Soon, BH will be confined to just buses and motorcycles.
I believe this fake “ceasefire” will be over in 48hrs.
Unrelated to BH, but very significant to security:
42 days after of the last case of EVD (Ebola,) Nigeria is declare Ebola free:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29685127
But we must take the 1st outbreak as just a warning shot.
We need specialized treatment centers across the country, and teams going to remote villages along our western borders, looking for signs of infection.
We are already sending personnel to help our west African brothers and sisters fight the virus; our government must collate their knowledge and experience and then create a doctrine for fighting a large outbreak in Nigeria. The outbreak we should be afraid of is the one that starts in a small village close to a city. The quack doctors and fake hospitals in our small towns and villages may not be able to handle Ebola as efficiently as the personnel and infrastructure in Lagos.
As regards BH, it seems our political and military leadership still don’t know what they are dealing with, after many years and many varieties of conflict, I don’t know how that could be.
The very basics of leadership is missing in this government.
I totally agree with you comments regarding how Nigeria has dealt with the Ebola crises.
Our Ebola performance is Grade A crisis management. Hands on management and full stakeholder involvement. The world will soon come to learn.
Well that’s the same Nigeria and government they said nothing good comes from her. the west is so hung with their definition of good they will not see anything rite with this country
“alas tis only the beginning”
Peace talks split Boko Haram into two groups: http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/20/850.html
Our gov’t should quickly wake up from this “bring back the girls” dream.
Secure the lives of the living and the freedom of the free 1st.
Well that’s the same Nigeria and government they said nothing good comes from her. the west is so hung with their definition of good they will not see anything rite with this country
“alas tis only the beginning, shall they bit their tongue…
http://www.punchng.com/news/ceasefire-collapses-as-army-fights-back/
It is increasingly likely that the prayers of Nigerians is being heard:
This is the first signs that the boko haram leadership is truly divided , a house that is divided cannot stand, Whatever it takes for the further destabilization,disintegration of the already fragmented sect should continue there is no sin on casting aspersions on this despicable group.
Augustin, please explain to us in broad term the military superiority Chad has over the Nigerian armed forces.
“No African country except Egypt, Nigeria, and South Africa has the weapons that Chad has today. In addition to what I have today, I am trying to acquire others.”
President Idriss Deby
Now don’t tell me the President of Chad is being diplomatically nice. Your views on the capability and scale of the Nigerian armed forces begins and ends online, the Boko Haram conflict is your barometer hence you are always the first to shout ”this will tear us apart, that will smash us if we try,We dont have migs..and on and on and on. But before i proceed let me say this.
” Three Chadian MiG-29 jets will wipe out the whole Nigerian air force in one day, their missiles will wipe our F-7s in a few minutes, while their cannon will wipe out all Alpha jets and L-39 jets, then all NAF helicopters gunships will be eaten up for dinner in similar way.”
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Im not sure you know what the term air force mean, if you do you will 3 Migs or 5 Su-25 far from a trump card. An air force includes heavy or light lift capability,surveillance aircrafts, patrol crafts and other support system. 7 F-7 Airguard is more than enough to take on Chads 3 Migs. The F-7 is equally supersonic, its Type 226 Skyranger radar has a range of 20 kilometers. Its incorporates British avionics like the Type 50-048-02 digitized air data compute. Its gun has camera, which is linked to HUD with capability to interchange rolls of film while airborne. It also incorporates a British AD-3400 secured radio with range in excess of 400 km at 1.2 km altitude. And lets not forget it has its PL-7 Air-to-air missiles stock intact as they have never been used in air to air combat situations.It has 5 hardpoints that can be fitted with the PL-7 air to air missile. It flies faster than the speed of sound and has a combat radius in excess of 800km. Its FIAR Grifo-7 mk.II radar is comparable to what is obtainable on the MIG-29..
After all is said and done victory is decided by better training and support assets. Can 3 Mig-29 tale on 7 J-7? i dont think so. Are Chardian pilots better trained? Nope. Do Chadian pilots have combat experience like her Nigeria counterparts does? NO. Those who talk about bombing, Chardian Mig-29’s are not equipped with Air to ground missiles. To launch airstrikes you need aerial surveillance platforms, does Chad have anything close to the 2 ATR 42MP? Nope. Nigerian satellites as well can easily be rigged to provide real time imagery of Chadian military assets and units without anyone knowing. What about air lift capability? is there any country in Africa that can boast the airlift capability the Nigerian air force have always had? Nope,
In the Helicopter Gunship arena believe it or not Chad has just two operational M1-24 Hind, its other two MI-17 are in questionable condition. How does that even remotely compare to the nearly forty Helicopter gunship mix of 8 Mil Mi-35 Hind, 3 MI-24 hind, 12 Embrae Super Tucanos and of course the nearly 40 Helicopters to be delivered this year. How on earth do you think Chad even has an airforce save for the fancy display, an air force of 800 men how can it conduct large scale sorties and strikes as to cripple Nigeria when they are numerically outmatched by a ratio of seven to one. Technologically outmatched as well and an effective aerial reconnaisance and support system. Think, who are they gonna employ to fly the Migs? Ukrainian mercenaries?
As for the army dont even make comparisms.
@Oje, succint and spot on.
Oga beegz where u dey we need a new thread my mb is been sucked dry opening up 284 comments lol my ogas gudmorning
I hope u havent gone awol oga beegz
Oga Manny Aydel, Oga Oje fed you with wrong information and you swallowed it. Both of you are joint dreamers sir, carry on.
Oga Oje, you don’t know how war is fought technically, so feel free to dream on sir.
Can 3 Mig-29 tale on 7 J-7? Yes most definitely. I will expect the Migs to triumph.
Now that Minister for defence has resigned, to run for governorship elections. Can we get an actual non partisan person with military roots or least a sound knowledge of the country’s defence needs.
Oga Kay, that’s what you get when defense ministers are appointed for political reasons and not for their passion for the job of military science. Imagine Oga Beegeagle was appointed minister of state for defense…..
Mig 29 Maximum speed: Mach 2.25
F-7NI Maximum speed: Mach 2.0
Mig 29 Rate of climb :65,000 ft/min
F-7NI Rate of climb :38,386 ft/min
Service ceiling The Higher the service ceiling,the more energy you take into combat.
Mig 29 Service ceiling : 59,100 ft
F-7NI Service ceiling :57,420 ft
Mig 29 Rate of climb :65,000 ft/min
F-7NI Rate of climb :38,386 ft/min
Mig 29 Hard points. : 7HP
F-7NI Hard points. :5HP
Mig 29. Combat radius : 700km (Internal fuel, 7 hard points).
F-7NI Combat radius : 850 km (3 external tanks,2 hard points).
Mig 29 G Load : 9g (determines sustained turn angle in dog fight.)
F-7NI G Load :8g
Mig 29 Powerplant : 2 × Klimov RD-33 afterburning turbofans, 81.4 kN each
F-7NI Powerplant : 1 × Liyang Wopen-13F afterburning turbojet 64.7 kN
Mig 29 Trust vector capable engine.
F-7NI Not Trust vector capable.
Mig29 Thrust to weight ratio :0.9 -1.08
F-7NI Thrust to weight ratio : 0.78
To whom it may concern.
Data is subject to change based on superior knowledge. 🙂
Oga drag_on thank you sir.
We may also remind our dreamer brothers that F-7 jet can carry only 2 missiles for 10 minute combat, despite lots of external fuel supplements while the MiG-29 will carry 6 missiles for the same 10 minute combat.
All the MiG-29 pilots have to do is to allow both sides to waste 2 missiles each to flares counter-measures, then F-7 has no more missiles, while MiG-29 has four missiles left. The MiG does not need to use it’s last 4 missiles, it will go dog fight cannon mode and with superior avionics and maneuverability one single Chadian MiG-29 jet will use it’s 150 round cannon shells to shoot down all 11 NAF F-7 jets in few minutes and Chad has TOTAL air-superiority over Nigeria, they can even bomb Aso Rock Abuja and NOTHING will stop them.
Su-25 Frog foot jets of Chad will crush all Nigerian army artillery, then Nigerian infantry will suffer world record casualties according to their large numbers, so shall their casualties be. That’s what you get when you use inferior weapons against superior weapons. Patriotism is not a good reason for self-deception.
NAF will not dare fly any helicopter or trainer-ground attack aircraft against Chad, or else Chad will use Nigeria to make African war history in Guinness Book of records.
CASE CLOSED.
What does the Nigerian Military from purchasing 50 of each of those fighter jets, keeping in mind, Aliko Dangote is richer than Chad.
Lol, because it’s not the Nigeria military that does the purchasing and that is not the priority of the decision makers as far as they feel they are safe even though the nation isn’t
Confimed: Under a contract signed a few months ago, NA to receive 50 units of KRAZ 6X6 platform and Tractor trucks. 20 NA Engineers complete a 2 week training at the KRAZ Auto Company. (They were the fellows sighted in Kharkov).
Ukriane’s MoD announced that “military supplies to NIgeria are part of a contract signed in 2012 with defence companies and not with the MoD. Deliveries must be completed by those companies to avoid heavy fines.” 🙂
Are they weapon platforms or troops and cargo
Oga Saleh, Both options!
Oga Obix, when ever i see your comments i actually expect to hear good news as regards the OPLOT’s. Hehehe. Any way abeg how far any gist ? My ears are itching
Oga Chyde, due to the noise raised by politicians and citizens, the Ukrainian companies have decided to get highly secretive on issues concerning export of military equipment. As your ears are itching, so are mine..and my eyes are wide open too 🙂
Thanks man.
that in itself is goodnews
A bit more on the MIG29.
http://www.16va.be/mig-29_experience.htm
Excerpt:
Following the re-unification of Germany, Luftwaffe inherited a number of East Germany’s MiG-29 fighters. It was decided to incorporated these fighters into the Luftwaffe and make them as much “NATO-compatible” as possible. These aircraft were later used for a number of training exercises, including simulated air combats against American F-16 fighters. Many weaknesses and advantages of the MiG-29 were discovered…….
……..I am not feeling particularly patriotic this night and so I decided to quote Luftwaffe’s Oberstleutenant Johann Koeck, who for many years was an F-4 pilot and who has first-hand experience flying MiG-29 as the commander of Luftwaffe’s MiG-29 squadron. If anyone is qualified to compare MiG-29 to Western fighter aircraft it would be Johann Koeck. I organized his evaluations of the aircraft’s performance – everything from dogfighting to maintainability – into two categories: flaws and advantages……
ADVANTAGES
……”But when all that is said and done, the MiG-29 is a superb fighter for close-in combat, even compared with aircraft like the F-15, F-16 and F/A-18. This is due to the aircraft’s superb aerodynamics and helmet mounted sight. Inside ten nautical miles I’m hard to defeat, and with the IRST, helmet sight and ‘Archer’ I can’t be beaten. Period. Even against the latest Block 50 F-16s the MiG-29 is virtually invulnerable in the close-in scenario. On one occasion I remember the F-16s did score some kills eventually, but only after taking 18 ‘Archers’. We didn’t operate kill removal (forcing ‘killed’ aircraft to leave the fight) since they’d have got no training value, we killed them too quickly. (Just as we might seldom have got close-in if they used their AMRAAMs BVR!) They couldn’t believe it at the debrief, they got up and left the room!
“They might not like it, but with a 28deg/sec instantaneous turn rate (compared to the Block 50 F-16’s 26deg) we can out-turn them. Our stable, manually controlled airplane can out-turn their FBW aircraft. But the real edge we have is the ‘Archer’ which can reliably lock on to targets 45deg off-boresight.”I should stress that I’m talking about our Luftwaffe MiG-29s, which are early aircraft.
The disadvantages are also stated on the page.
Gentlemen, thanks for illuminating the discourse. My perspective, and correct me if I’m wrong, is that Nigeria is not going to sit down to be taken out by Chadian planes (neither do I expect the Chadians to do the same). Without any doubt, the MiG-29 is a superior fighter by miles to the F7NI but I buy the argument that the quality of the pilots matter. I once served in a country that flies the Sukhois but they were not flown by her nationals and I know that for a fact. On this blog, I read of fellow contributors painting that country in glowing colours. I also know for a fact that NAF MiG 21s frequently intercepted Libyan MiG 23s around our north-eastern airspace when the Libyan-Chad crisis raged in the early 1980s (in fact AVM Nureini Yussuf lost one of his pilot sons through an airfield accident in Maiduguri around that time). So sirs, my point is that without calling the superiority of the airframe in question into doubt, how about the quality of the pilots, the track record mentioned by Oje (maintenance, systemic back up etc)? I also would aver that as we exchange ideas and share knowledge, please let’s do so with humility and respect each other.
Good points, well made
Oga manny,
I am guessing we are debating about gaining air superiority over Nigeria by Chad before sending ground attack platforms (SU25).
First thing, we have a more professional air-force than the Chadians .So i’d say we won’t accept merc pilots while the Chadians won’t be scrupulous about mercenary pilots and maintenance crews.
Secondly, BVR engagement won’t happen in the African theatre any time soon because it requires net-centric warfare with AEWAC’s , competent IFF and data-link networks.
You have to be absolutely sure of what you are firing at.
In our own airspace, we have the advantage of radar coverage for interception, we could theoretically use BVR AMRAAMs but our F-7s’ are not so equipped AFAIK. Ultimately, our radars will be taken out piecemeal with anti-radiation missiles in a SEAD mission.If we are the invading force our pilots dare not leave our own country. The Mig 29 were designed to counter the F16s’ while the SU27s’ counter the F-15s’.Till date,in the Africa theatre the SU27s’ have the upper hand over the Mig29s’ and the 29s’ over the Mig 23s’ and Mig21’s.
Think about this for a minute, a 3 MIG 29s’ using a jamming pod and IRST,taking on our F-7’s. SCARY.
So the question.Who will want to face Mig29s’ piloted by Russian/Ukrainian mercs in a chinese MIG 21?
I firmly believe 4 SU27’s will give us immediate air dominance over our immediate neighbours and region,while costing less in maintenance than those 12 Chinco Mig 21’s.
@Obix,
I am going to steal some of your “6×6” thunder.
This is how to build a survivable gun truck!
This looks like something from the Angola/Namibia theatre of operations
The Indians have the SU 30 as their first line of defence,the MIG-29 as the Second line, Mirage 2000 the 3rd line and the MIG 21 Bison as reserve. THIS reserve is being phased out as we speak,esp. with the induction of the Rafale and the locally built TEJAS. Its twin, the F-7 is being phased out by the Pakistanis for the JF-17.
Do we really think the Indians or Pakistanis would have been confortable with F-7s’ or Mig 21’s in a region(Africa) with SU27s’,SU30s’, F15s’ F16s’ Refuel Tankers and Griphens?
Notice that the Indians know that the SU30s and MIG 29s are enough to match Pakistan,they are going for the PAKFA and Rafale to match CHINA!
That is strategic planning.
Do we understand strategy to even think of planning?
Abeg i wan ask Where Aliyu Gusau our so called Minister of Defence dey? No word from him since the fight with Badeh….has he secretly resigned? if so does that mean Badeh is now defacto minister of defence/CDS.
Again Our Foreign Policy must change Its clear Chad and Cameroon are hostile countries to Nigeria either its a form of Tug of War between US backed Chad or French backed Cameroon we will never know but we must get Russia and China in the mix to get these 2 world powers to back off, or we ARM TO THE TEETH
Oga temitope,
What was the fight about? Pray tell.
Seems Obanikoro was also holding a defence post similar to Gusau’s.
Anyone care to explain difference between Minister of state for defence and minister of defence?
In a lay man’s language, Minister of Defence is a senior minister while Minister of state for Defence is a Junior minister.
@Oga drag_on, once again, an illuminating interjection! I think that on this blog, we’re all united on one point-the FG must immediately re-equip and re-arm the NAF in such a way that every State (and non-state actor for that matter) on the continent will think five times (or more) before attempting any funny games on our shores. We have to keep piling on pressure, with the coordination of Gen Beeg, for this to happen. I think the contributors to this blog deserve a big pat on the back for the modest changes we’re begining to witness in the orbat of our armed forces!
OGA BEEGS…I suggest that you create a detailed document for short and long-term acquistions for the three tiers of the Nigerian Armed Forces..The document will be in pdf format and hosted on google..with watermarked pages, of course…Hopefully, it will get to the MOD..acquistions for the armed forces, along with cost implications too can be added..I think its high time we get something formal out there.
I think beeg has gone awol again. Interesting stories(especially, the ceasefire news), yet no new thread. Maybe, he is in Chad now:D
U re funny guy
Ogas I personally don’t think we should be worried about Chad right now……they have their own internal problems:
“There have been numerous rebel groups in Chad throughout the last few decades. In 2007, a peace treaty was signed that integrated United Front for Democratic Change or FUC soldiers into the Chadian Army.[77] The Movement for Justice and Democracy in Chad or MDJT also clashed with government forces in 2003 in an attempt to overthrow President Idriss Déby. In addition, there have been various conflicts with Khartoum’s Janjaweed rebels in Eastern Chad who killed civilians by use of helicopter gunships.[78] Presently, the Union of Resistance Forces or UFR are a rebel group that continues to battle with the government of Chad. In 2010, the UFR reportedly had a force estimating 6,000 men and 300 vehicles.”
Islamic terrorists attack Canada yesterday and today, kill two soldiers. Hit capital city, government parliament building. The world is no longer safe. Let the world unite against terrorism. Those countries helping Boko Haram against Nigeria, one day your evil arrows will backfire.
Boko Haram kidnaps 60 women in Adamawa.
http://www.punchng.com/news/b-haram-abducts-60-women-in-adamawa/
Cease-fire ?
What’s going on, that report doesn’t even make sense, it’s all over the place. At one point it says the town was under the control of the militants for 2 months, then it says the town was attacked on Saturday.
Has the military simply stopped fighting, making way for the militants to just overrun the entire North-East. If so, then that’s just ridiculous, there should be no ceasefire until all Boko Haram members lay down their weapons.
They better go back and kill them off, otherwise all their gains over the past month will be lost.
oga Augustine
i want to believe the story but there are too many inconsistencies in this story. LETS MOVE ON TO FACTS.
1) It is now Thursday in Nigeria and what i deep down gut wretchedly believe was going to happen is happening there eventually will be no cease fire, the boko bastards who now shit in their pants to attack the military are big and bad attacking pregnant and semi illiterate women along the border towns.
2) I personally called out the three services years who collectively between them have over a hundred years of MILITARY SERVICE AND MY NUMBER OF YEARS OF SERVICE IS ZERO THIS IS WHY.
3) I would of liked to be a fly on the wall and listened in on the last conference meeting they had with the President when they were briefed did they disclose to the president that it was a bad idea? did they jut say yes sir ( thinking of self survival skills).
4) THIS IS THE PHONEY WAR AND THE REAL WAR WILL COME IN THE MIDDLE OF AN ELECTION IF Mr President is not extremely careful.
” The illiterates of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read or write but those who cannot learn and unlearn” ~Alvin Toffler.
When i say the President we have is spineless and incompetent and at that nit fit to rule a country like Nigeria. Whats worse, he is surrounded by even more spinless advisers who sees the North East as some far away land hence no sense of urgency. It is appalling to see that in the 21st Century a country that has some of its territorial land invaded or occupied by enemy forces goes on like its business as usual.President Jonathan is making campaign trips and giving campaign speeches when the roof is on fire. Boko Haram has broken the cease fire now twice. I told you guys that since the purported $500,000 ‘ransom payment” to Boko Haram they will need at least a week or two weeks to purchase arms to restock its depleted stock on the black market. The Cease fire deal was a form of ”time out”. Now there are disturbing signs that the ”cease fire” was just a mirage for something more sinister.
Haha, if there’s anyone out there who still thinks accepting the cease fire was a step in the right direction , well now you have your answer. Augustine na you be Commander in Che if of thone who four appeasement here. You and Pecavvi. .
Dear Nigerian political leadership,
Please stop groping around for quick fixes to the Boko Haram issue.
If the report on the recent kidnapping of 23 young women/girls is true, then the reason behind that is simple: a sub-group of Boko Haram, which is not part of the “ceasefire” talks, has just acquired their own get-out-of-jail card.
I said “acquired” because, by allowing Boko Haram to use the Chibok girls as a major bargaining chip, the impression has been created that this is the way to get the FG to negotiate.
I know there are people in our government that want to appear “civilized” from a western viewpoint, or maybe it’s about the upcoming elections, but these are the facts that will never go away: There are 10s of millions of young women/girls in Nigeria. And Nigeria is insecure and will remain so for many years to come.
All it takes to kidnap dozens of young girls in Nigeria is evil-mindedness and willpower. That’s it – no special skills or resources required.
Dealing with Boko Haram requires the cooperation of Chad, Niger and Cameroun. Once we have that, the next crucial step (after regain control of lost towns), is lots of boots on the ground. Once we have achieved these, then we have to get the young men in the north east into farms or jobs or schools – we have to re-establish a working economy in the north east as well as in the rest of the north.
These steps are inevitable, regardless of how the talks go.
Gird yourself for the task at hand. They are not easy tasks and would require the expenditure of political capital.
Getting “lots of boots on the ground”, for example, would require the activation of Army reserve or a strong civil defence force, or maybe a revamped anti-terror police. re-establishing a working economy in the north east will require expending political capital.
I wish you luck with the negotiations but nothing will be achieved without physical security in the north east.
No faction of Boko Haram can guarantee peace in the North East. Only the government, with strong support from the people, can guarantee peace. But this will take time.
Supreme Art of War: Boko Haram, Ceasefires, Hostages and Harmattan
This is commentator’s general reading of the insurgency in North Eastern Nigeria rests on several assumptions, such as:
As devastating as it is for the inhabitants and security forces involved the insurgency does not present an existential threat to the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
The only way the insurgency presents an existential threat, is when all of Nigeria’s combat power and security resource are fully committed leaving no uncommitted element to contain the insurgency or any unforeseen circumstance.
The first definitive time this will occur is February 2015 when Nigeria holds general elections absorbing all of Nigeria’s available combat and security forces on internal security duties.
Operationally the rainy season, flooded rivers, bad roads, swamps and forests restricts the insurgent’s vehicular freedom of movement.
Thus there is a small window of opportunity before the onset of this year’s dry season when this unfavourable terrain, superior mobility, numbers and firepower will allow friendly forces to isolate and defeat the insurgents.
It is the considered opinion of this commentator that due to the specific events of the 10th and 17th October this opportunity no longer exists and that conditions are now such that Boko Haram can successfully campaign at will throughout the dry season up to and beyond the election in a manner and area of their choosing, creating the existential threat above.
Hostages
On 10th October, 17 Camerounian and 10 Chinese hostages were released by Boko Haram, the Camerounian hostages included the Lamido of Kolofata and family and the wife of the Camerounian Deputy PM Madame Francoise Angel Ali (despite having been apparently been freed by Camerounian forces on 30th July).
In keeping with Boko Harams usual practice (Boko Haram’s Ramadan Offensive 2), the negotiations were predicated on finance and personnel.
Media reports vary as to the amounts paid but the sum of 3.2 billion CFA Francs (£387,100/ $621, 000) has been mentioned by a generally useful Camerounian media outlet L’oeil du Sahel. Despite the 10 Chinese retailing at 1.5bn CFA Francs and the Kolofata 17 at 1.7bn CFA Francs the biggest gift to Boko Haram were the 30 prisoners released as part of the deal.
These included Ndjidda Hassana aka Sheikh Abdul Mohamed, Alioum Hassan, Mohamed Abakar, Mahamat Adjil, Hassana Ahmed, Ema Hassana, Idriss Djibril Ndjidda, Mohamed Hadjer and Mohamed Ali who were all sentenced on 24 July, by a military court in Maroua to long terms of imprisonment after being captured in the vicinity of Goulfey with 6,000 rounds of ammunition, 239 x AK 47s, grenades, 9 x machine guns, 2 x unspecified rifles, 3 x pistols, 6 x FN FAL Rifles and 3 x rocket launchers.
Also released were members of a Boko Harm cell arrested in Kousseri on 23 September; Tatenda Parked, Mahamat Ali, Goni Mustapha Maira, Ousmanou and Abakar Ali. The latter reportedly controlled the largest Boko Haram logistics base in Cameroun, with one cache reportedly containing 1 x machine gun, 4 x heavy machine guns, 14 flares, 4 x rocket launchers, 6 x AK 47s, 60 x AK47 magazines, 62 x 9mm rounds, 469 x 12.7mm ammunition, 4454 x 7.62mm ammunition, 1491 x 5.56mm, 203 x 7.62mm ammunition, 619 unspecified ammunition, 6 x rifle grenades, 28 x RPG charges and a suitcase of Korans and preaching material.
It is also alleged that arms and ammunition were part of the deal, although it is unlikely it could have been these captured weapons given back as part of the trade.
So to summarise not only does Boko Haram have its logisticians and hardened commanders back but it is $600,000 richer controlling uncontested space from Lake Chad to Madagali.
We now move onto Act 2 in this 2 part tragedy (or maybe farce would be more accurate).
Ceasefire
On Friday 17th October the Chief of Defence Staff Air Vice Marshal Alex Badeh announced a ceasefire with Boko Haram. This was supported by an announcement from by previously unknown individual rejoicing in the name Danladi Ahmadu.
Doubts about this ceasefire arose immediately for several reasons the first being nomenclature; while AVM Badeh referred to Boko Haram by its actual name Jama’atu Ahlis Sunna Lidda’awati wal-Jihad, the purported General Secretary/ spokesperson/ Chief security Officer Danladi Ahmadu referred to the sect by its popular but derogatory nickname of Boko Haram. Even the name ‘Danladi’ itself is an Hausa name meaning ‘born on Sunday’ a fairly illogical nom de guerre for an Islamic Salafist jihadi.
Other question marks include the fact that no one seems to hae told Boko Haram there is a ceasefire with several attacks immediately after the ceasefire announcement, with one particularly large one against Abadam starting on Thursday and continuing through till Sunday.
But window dressing aside the key question is why? Why would either side agree to a ceasefire at this point?
To cease or not to cease?
General Situation:
Currently there is a stalemate in the battlespace. Boko Haram occupies a large swathe of territory but has been unable to make any headway east into Fotokol, Cameroun or West towards Maiduguri or Damaturu. The heavy fighting around Konduga/ Bazza and Fotokol/ Gamboru Ngala appears to have caused significant losses in men and materiel to Boko Haram. Combined with the requirements of sustaining a large disparate force across difficult terrain with limited infrastructure (much of which they destroyed themselves), they are operationally stymied.
Camerounian forces having fought successful defensive battles around Fotokol, Kolofata,
Amchide, Kouserri and other border towns find themselves stretched and exhausted. To completely eliminate the threats to this area they would need to cross into Nigeria, an operation Cameroun does not have the capabilities to undertake and sustain. Nigerian forces after success at Konduga, Bazza and Wulgo appear to have halted. The window of opportunity opened by the strings of enemy defeats and the killing of key leaders has been allowed to close for unknown reasons.
Situation Friendly Forces:
The official reason for the ceasefire was hostage release. The GSS Chibok girls were specifically mentioned however there have been contradictory statements with one official stating they would be released by Tuesday 21st, with another stating that talks about their release would begin Monday 20th. Little has been said about the several hundred other male and female captives.
To be fair the only logical reason for a ceasefire would be a genuine hostage release. As stated above Boko Haram has advanced no position beyond ransom, recompense and release of imprisoned members in negotiations thus beyond this there is nothing that can be conceded as they are unlikely to agree to quietly pack up and go home. Recovering the hostages would be positive for the victims and their families and boost morale but other than freeing up friendly forces to use unrestricted firepower serves no operational purpose.
This is because the hostage release is strategically meaningless since whatever price is paid for the hostages as long as Boko Haram retains operational freedom, they can simply snatch another set at their leisure. Other very worrying aspects of the ceasefire include;
Credibility: the ceasefire was announced by friendly forces first with the only a completely unknown entity from the other side endorsing it. For it to be credible it needed an announcement from a known personality such as ‘Shekau’ or a unilateral trust building gesture such as the release of some of the hostages. There is no way for anybody (including the participants) to independently verify the ceasefire.
Guarantees: there are no safeguards or guarantees for compliance. Boko Haram has many factions, groups, camps and sub groups each of which whilst nominally under the command of an Amir are very much beyond their control. How does Danladi Ahmadu guarantee the ceasefire is respected by all factions? And how do the complying factions guarantee it will be understood and a respected by all sub groups? This was reinforced by the series of attacks immediately following the announcement. Were these the isolated attacks of groups who have not got the ceasefire message or deliberate attacks by factions who are not signed up to the ceasefire or is there no ceasefire from the other side?
Situation Enemy Forces:
A ceasefire for them at this point is extremely useful. This campaign would have cost them a lot of money, men, vehicles, weapons and ammunition. At the same time their attacks on local people have devastated local agriculture and denuded captured the areas of foodstuffs, farmers and workers. Thus they badly need fuel, weapons, ammunition, food and manpower. All of the above require money and the right people to make it happen, which they have just obtained from Cameroun and China. The key question is not whether the ceasefire is true or false but what ddoes either option mean.
True: if this is a genuine ceasefire approved by the Boko Haram Shura it benefits them as follows;
Resources: collecting and cooking food for hundreds of hostages is a resource intensive exercise just as guarding them is manpower intensive. Having to move them constantly to avoid detection also ties up vehicles, fuel and manpower. Getting rid of this burden in return for cash, personnel and weapons is the epitome of a win-win.
Operational freedom: Boko Haram can continue raiding and attacking whilst claiming these raids are by bandits or factions who have not yet heard of or do not agree with the ceasefire. Thus they benefit from the lack of friendly offensive action (particularly air strikes), whilst they are free to strike at will.
Deniability: The final trump card is the use of Danladi Ahmadu, who as an absurd an unknown quantity can be denied and disowned him at any point. Allowing them to claim they never agreed to a ceasefire and that this is all a fabrication.
False:
If this is all an elaborate hoax then Boko Haram whilst still burdened by hostages has the operational freedom afforded it by the lack of offensive action by friendly forces to rearm and re equip with all that lovely money from China and Cameroun using the good offices of the newly freed Abakar Ali and co, with the script for their next mocking propaganda video already pre written for them.
Conclusion
The security forces in the preceding weeks had carried out many of the necessary preparatory actions for a counter offensive such as forming a multinational force, focussing on parts of the enemies key terrain (such as Lake Chad), improved cooperation with Cameroun, purchasing equipment such as helicopters and reinforcing and stiffening 7 Div with fresh well led units.
The best case scenario one can envisage is that this is an elaborate deception plan and by the 20th November when the Multinational Force based at Baga becomes operational a general offensive will be launched to clear Boko Haram from around Lake Chad and the border areas and recapture the lost territories. Even if this is the case it is unclear how a month of inaction would benefit friendly forces or how waiting till dry season to fight a highly mobile enemy in the Sahel, when swamps and rivers dry up and the harmattan dust clouds and fog prevent helicopters and aircraft from flying is a wise move.
The legendary Chinese military writer Sun Tzu stated ‘The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting’ and through the hostage release and ceasefire Boko Haram has achieved what should really been unachievable.
They have been given the space and time to rest and refit, the means to rearm and just as crucially, the experienced personnel needed for the logistics efforts as well as hardened and experienced commanders to replace those killed.
If the ceasefire holds long enough, they will have the resources to mount a leisurely mobile defence of the captured areas or launch a Dry Season offensive.
It is thus the opinion of this commentator that the ceasefire and hostage release are comprehensive operational if not strategic victories for Boko Haram.
As an analyst I believe I am right, as a Nigerian I hope I am wrong
I luv to hope you are wrong but then it will mean I am high on something.. I just hope hope we wake up from this slumber before we realise that BH has played the same trick on us like Taylor did in liberia. When do we learn from history. Very good analysis
God bless you again for another detailed and very useful comment Oga Peccavi, may your knowledge base receive divine increase and your pocket receive divine rewards. Amen.
Oga pecavvi, it is difficult to fault your reading of the current situation (and that which may likely unfold). Useful analysis, graphic details. Kudos. The leadership of our security forces must boldly provide the tactical and strategic dimension to any discourse on BH whenever invited by the political authority otherwise, we may be heading for the worst…
Interesting scraps of information from the chief of air staff.
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/national-news/184050-military-response-alone-cannot-stop-boko-haram-says-chief-of-air-staff
“While speaking on the activities of his men, Amosu said the air force has carried out more than 5,390 missions comprising 2,468 on various ground attack platforms, 1,443 air surveillance and 1,479 airlift missions”
Creditable effort by the NAF, but we need an Air Force that can sustain 100 combat sorties a day while operating in home ground.
If we can do 100-150 combat sorties a day, and combine that with NA aggressive action, BH will be forced to return to IEDs and marketplace bombs.
Sorry my Ogas, don’t mean to derail but since we are still waiting for a new thread from Oga beegs I thought I should post this. Watch it from 4:11 forward. When a network like FOX news decides to praise Nigeria then we really have done something amazing. I say keep it up Nigeria and lets keep flying that flag higher.http://video.foxnews.com/v/3846106158001/new-calls-for-ebola-travel-ban-spark-debate/#sp=show-clips
Its ironic the hated and much vaunted Republican party has over the years been more proactive to Africa as well as been more objective in their coverage of news about Africa. The Liberal democratic party has been the complete opposite, even when the Commander in Chief is of African heritage/#.
weird.. why is my post coming out in Gboye’s name?
Oga Peccavi and Augustine, you have suddenly changed from ”pro cease fire to ”defining the art of cease fire”) and as usual you force down our throat pages of unintelligible crap with big English and as usual your cohorts Augustine is there to applaud. Please this is not a class, stop lecturing us, we are sick and tired of your self aggrandizing. Where the heck is Oga Beeg. I am tempted to take the cue from Igbi. Until Oga Beeg returns and sanity returns i don’t think contributing to this blog is a good idea.
Some interesting thoughts by someone on military action on boko haram…
http://uashamaki.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/7-ideas-on-boko-haram-crisis.html
Very good analysis above, Oga rugged7 thanks for bringing it up, for it’s importance, I beg to copy and re-post it below, and I request the writer to try join this blog if he can.
Some interesting thoughts by someone on military action on boko haram…
http://uashamaki.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/7-ideas-on-boko-haram-crisis.html
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7 IDEAS ON THE BOKO HARAM CRISIS
Editor’s Note: This article was written by Mukhtar Usman-Janguza: A London based Africa and Middle East public affairs commentator. He blogs at janguzaarewa.blogspot.com. Follow him on Twitter @JanguzaArewa
In this post, I outline four policies and three experimental concepts that I would implement if in an alternate universe I went to bed and woke up as Nigeria’s President and Commander-in-Chief.
1. State Organs and Institutions Put on a War Footing
Irakli Toidze’s iconic “Motherland is calling”. A Word War II propaganda poster from the Soviet Union (sovietposters.com). The poster was published in 1941, just after Germany’s invasion of the country. The motherly figure is a personification of the Soviet Union and in her arms the Soviet soldier’s oath of loyalty.
Whether we choose to believe it or not, ours is a nation at war! Therefore, I will immediately put every organ of the State – i.e. the ministries, parastatals and State institutions – on a war footing. I will defend this radical move by explaining to my compatriots that we confront an ideologically committed foe whose immediate objective is to carve out an independent state on Nigerian soil. Despite recent tactical successes – particularly at Konduga where the military defeated several attempts by Boko Haram to retake the town – the overall strategic picture remains unchanged. The conflict is still in “fluid stalemate”. At the strategic level, the conflict is still characterised by stalemate – neither the Nigerian army nor Boko Haram is capable of comprehensively defeating the other for now. At the tactical level however, battlefield conditions remain highly fluid – limited offensives are still conducted, and population centers still change hands. An estimated 17 Local Government Areas straddling three states – Adamawa, Borno and Yobe – currently lie beyond the limits of State control. The map of Nigerian no longer reflects the realities on the ground. The constitutional implications of this fact are yet to be fully grasped. For example both Section 3 (6) of the Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1999 (as amended) which declares that “there shall be 768 Local Government Areas”, and section 217 (2b) which emphasises territorial defence to be a cardinal duty of the armed forces, have been fundamentally breached.
2. Call a Joint Session of the National Assembly
President Goodluck Jonathan presenting the 2013 budget at a Joint Session of the National Assembly (Today.ng)
Having put the State on a war footing, the next thing I would do is to call a Joint Session of Parliament. This war has gone on for five years now. The bedraggled terrorist band we once faced have now mutated into a formidable territorial organisation. Despite this, it is clear to me that most Nigerians are yet to fully comprehend the nature and magnitude of the threat confronting our Republic. Popular assessments of the conflict are often based on rumour, conspiracy theories – in many cases supplemented by fantastic lies from the government; the recent fiasco over a “ceasefire agreement” being a case in point. Our national leadership – the executive and the legislative – have simply abdicated their moral and constitutional responsibilities to provide united leadership on this existential issue. In momentous and turbulent times like these, it is the duty of the governing elite to step forward and provide focused leadership. Consequently, a joint session of parliament will provide me with a suitable platform to clearly define the nature of the problem confronting our nation, and to articulate with clarity what I intend to do to overcome this crisis.
3. Expand the Army
Nigerian Troops on Patrol in Borno, the epicenter of the Boko Haram Crisis (AFP)
One of the first policies I will announce at the Joint Session is the expansion of the military, particularly the army. The Nigerian army is simply not large enough to defeat Boko Haram and conduct stability operations once the conventional conflict phase subsides. A simple example will suffice to illustrate the army’s comparatively small size given the task at hand. Sri-Lanka which recently won its 26 year-long civil war did so with an army of over 250,000 (as opposed to Nigeria’s army of about 80,000 – 100,000). And what is more, Borno alone is larger than the whole of Sri-Lanka by land area. I will therefore immediately set the Ministry of Defence the objective of generating implementable plans for a mass recruitment exercise, coupled with improved service conditions to entice graduates into joining. In the interim however, whilst plans for the mass recruitment and training are being worked out, I will insist on enforcing the principle of letting the police do their jobs – maintaining law and order, providing security during elections, manning checkpoints at vital locations, guarding sensitive locations etc. This will free soldiers from these duties so they can concentrate on their own Jobs – fighting and wining Nigeria’s war! Similarly, I will explore the legal and constitutional barriers to immediately stripping public officials of their excessively large security details; or at the very least, dramatically trimming these security details down to the absolute minimum required for the legitimate security needs of the official.
No public official will be exempt from this thorough exercise, not even the President. These excess security agents now gathered, bristling with their shiny weapons and often overly eager to harass civilians, will instead be encouraged to direct their martial energies towards the war effort in the northeast. These individuals will be presented with a simple option: They either immediately join the newly expanding army, with its improved salary package and service condition; or surrender their weapons and enter the vast unemployment market! It is an absolute scandal that whilst the conflict zone is crying out for extra troops, calmer parts of the country are overflowing with well-armed security operatives whose only job is to provide security to many of the individuals that contributed to wrecking the country in the first place!
4. Create an Executive “Committee of Six” for Controlling Information
The chaotic management of information has been one very worrying feature of how the Boko Haram crisis has been handled so far. Given the pivotal importance of information management in war, I will immediately set up an executive “Committee of Six” consisting of the Minister of Defence, the Minister of the Interior, the National Security Adviser, the Director of the State Security Service, the Inspector General of Police, and the Minister of Information (as the chairman) to tightly control how State organs and institutions disseminate information about developments in the war. The operative word here is control; as opposed to distort or hide information. A tightly controlled and well executed information campaign will not only rebuild trust in the credibility of State institutions, but also shape perceptions of how developments are interpreted. I will clear out the dead woods now occupying the positions above, and instead replace them with men and women with the intellectual capacity to conceptualise and articulate a sophisticated strategic communication campaign.
Experimental Concepts
The three concepts I will outline below are underpinned by a single strategic aim: to “de-territorialize” Boko Haram. In other words, destroy its capacity to govern territories. As Boko Haram consolidates its hold on its territories, it will become more sophisticated in governance; and therefore more entrenched in its claimed “State”. There is also the confidence it will gain from having achieved the feat of claiming chunks of territories within Nigeria. This will make it much more difficult to dislodge. Slowing Boko Haram’s transition to stable governance, and ultimately reversing its territorial gains, is therefore an essential task that requires creative and bold solutions. The three concepts below are purely experimental which I will nevertheless hope to operationalise as soon as proper and extensive feasibility studies have been conducted.
5. Precision Airstrikes on “Symbols of Governance” (SoG) in captured areas
Coalition aircraft led by the US’ F-22 Raptor on their way to conduct airstrikes against “Islamic State” Group targets in Syria (rusi.org)
Ideally, Nigeria’s air force should be conducting intelligence-led daily air strikes on Boko Haram SoGs – e.g. its Shari’ah courts, “Emir’s” residence, Police/Hisbah stations, assembly points, and any other such strategic locations – with the aim of disrupting governance in Boko Haram controlled territories. Aside from its helicopters, which are vulnerable to Boko Haram’s anti-air weapons, Nigeria lacks precision airstrike capabilities to conduct such operations. Building such a capability will be a priority. This will be an opportunity for Nigeria’s diplomats to justify their salaries. I will fully expect them to take advantage of developments in the international arena – Russia’s and China’s increasing strategic assertiveness in international affairs – to open up new avenues for acquiring the weapons and training needed to modernize our military capabilities.
6. “Thunder Runs”
An infographic of US “Thunder Run” operations during the April 2003 Battle of Baghdad (BBC). The first raid on the 5th was an armoured thrust right through the city; racing all the way to the International Airport, which was then in US hands. Subsequent raids were more adventurous in probing deeper into the city.
US troops on one of their Thunder Runs to the International Airport
In April 2003 as US forces massed around Baghdad, they were faced with the prospect of a bloody urban operation to conquer Iraq’s capital city. In a bold gamble, armoured elements from the 2nd Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division, launched lightening thrusts deep into the city, driving along the main thoroughfares and major landmarks. The initial strategic aim was not to collapse the city’s defences after a few swift blows, but to test the city’s defences, and establish moral and psychological dominance over the defenders of the city in preparation for the coming struggle. So stunned were Baghdad’s defenders however that the entire city fell to US forces in just three days of fighting. Nigeria cannot obviously replicate this concept wholesale – given the qualitative difference in military capabilities – nor can it hope for a similar decisive strategic outcome – given the fact that Boko Haram’s operatives are far more ideologically committed to their cause that Saddam’s fighters ever where. But what Nigeria can do however is to conduct more limited “thunder runs” by armoured battalions against towns where Boko Haram presence is minimal. The strategic aim will be to integrate these with the precision airstrikes against Boko Haram SoGs so as to maintain constant pressure on Boko Haram fighters, particularly their conscripts who are more likely to occupy peripheral territories. Should such a limited, integrated, but high intensity, air-land operation be beyond the technical capacities of Nigerian forces, I will instruct the Ministry of Defence to immediately raise an experimental battalion and air squadron which, after sufficient training for a reasonable time period (about 6 months), form the nucleus of such a force. The aim will not be to immediately train the best of the best, but rather to create a reasonably effective force that can be operationally deployable within a relatively short time period. The experience of the conflict itself will hone and sharpen their technical capabilities.
7. Train Special Forces for Anti-Terrorist raids into Cameroon
Nigerian Army Special Forces Commandos on a training session (Beegeagle)
Cameroon’s far north is Boko Haram’s strategic rear. Cameroon, with a small and weak army and with a collapsed state on its eastern border, lacks both the will and the capacity to reclaim its territory from Boko Haram. Under such circumstances, the principles of sovereignty will not restrain me from ordering anti-terrorist raids into Cameroon should national security demand it. I will therefore instruct the Ministry of Defence to work out modalities for training a brigade of Special Forces for anti-terrorist raids beyond Nigeria’s borders. I will instruct my Attorney General to prepare and submit a legal defence for such an audacious move. In doing so, I will advise him/her to study the precedent set by the US, where it recently started bombing targets in Syria after having “notified” but without seeking the consent of the government, for its applicability to Nigeria.
The justification offered by the US for its silent invasion of Pakistan’s territory during Operation Geronimo, which led to the killing of Osama Bin Laden could prove useful as well. While Nigeria of course lacks the power to break sovereignty norms with impunity, I am however confident that where there is a compelling national security imperative, and where objectives are clearly defined, limited, and well-articulated, the world will turn a blind eye to Cameroon’s protestations. I will instruct strategic planners at the Foreign Ministry and Ministry of Defence to undertake comprehensive assessments of the likely military, political and economic reactions from Cameroon, and how these can be offset.
Make we dey look….
http://aitonline.tv/post-boko_haram_says_chibok_girls_would_be_released_on_monday
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/24/us-nigeria-boko-haram-chad-exclusive-idUSKCN0ID0WD20141024
Interesting. “Chad says…..”??? Is this how we have ridiculed ourselves? From a former African power to some toy boy for Chad?
The military has underperformed. We have no one else to blame but ourselves. We bent down in full and exposed our rump. Who ever chooses to have a go at it cannot be blamed…
Pls how have the military under performed, did u expect them to fight with archaic weapon system. And before u say its as a result of military rule, 1999 to date is more than enough to erase the rot of military rule. You didn’t talk of the budgetary allocations of the villa and legislature, do you the amount of weapon system that the feeding allocation to villa can buy, or the amount that is spent on estacode for the large entourage for many unnecessary foreign trips. Is the military responsible for the fact that PAF has more lift capabilty than NAF. Pls never u ever say the military has underperformed, if only u know how many widows and orphans are in the barracks.
I guess you also haven’t ever gone to any military barracks to see the wretched lives the personnel live with respect to the environment of asokoro maitama and other havens of our politicians then u say they have underperformed. Oh I forgot u may not even live in Nigeria. U think it’s cool for them to see ex servicemen dying on queues to collect their entitlements that never comes knowing that’s their fate in few years. The ex servicemen are even fortunate to be alive. You don’t want to know the hell families of dead servicemen go through to survive. On the other hand our dear politicians leave service with enough to sustain their future generations. My bro u don’t sow corn and harvest yam.
@saleh.To be clear, i am totally pro-nigeria and pro nigerian military. And yes, i come from a military family and have resided in the barracks.
I don’t think ur in a position to “lecture” me about the military and it’s political issues.
BUT, for the sake of argument the function of the military is to protect Nigerians from ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. You sign up to that once u enter the military.
Whatever the reasons, omission or commission, probably 10 to 15 nigerian towns are under enemy control, up from only sambisa forest a couple of years back.
So far, military budget has increased in the last 2 years to roughly 5 to 6 billion dollars.
You do the math and tell me if that is not under-perfomance against a rag-tag group.
Pls check ur facts right the military budget is about 2 billion however if u added the other paramilitary services to get ur figures that’s is still less than sufficient for the kind of military we deserve. Guess u don’t know the cost of an air sortie or what it cost to send a frigate on patrol. additionally in most case less than 40 % is ever released by the end of the year. Talking about ur military background pls ask ur parent if he/she is retired the amount received as gratuity and pension that is if he has finished processing it even. It’s appalling u lived in the barracks and know the state of personnel, surely u also know some Ecomog orphans and widows. I never said u were anti Nigeria or Nigeria military but that u are ignorant of the state of Nigeria military. When u treat an institution as garbage it will give u garbage in return
http://www.janes.com/article/32167/nigerian-defence-spending-to-fall-for-the-first-time-in-a-decade
2-2.5 billion dollars is the budgetary expenditure.
Recent extra-budgetary additions takes it to 5-6 billion- just for the last year or 2. See previous beegeagles posts for the analysis.
Where did u think the money for helicopter purchases etc was supposed to come from- the budget???
Every part of nigeria’s institutions have suffered from negligence including the military. The hospitals are a shadow of their previous glory yet the health professionals managed to get ebola under control…
If the military can not ensure that more than 40% of their budget is utilized or released, is it now my fault??
Unfortunately, my late father did not receive his complete pension and gratuity from the military before he died. I also know my late mother-a teacher who also did not get her complete pension & gratuity before she died. I have not decided to end my life because of that.
The politicians are crooks, and left to me, they should all be shot; BUT should that be a reason why we should let the country be overrun by boko haram scum???
Ethiopia’s military budget is not more than 500million dollars year on year- they managed to fight eritrea and invade somalia to fight al shabab.
By the way, isn’t it the same military who fought in liberia, sierre leone, guinea, bravely and on a shoe-string budget??
Hmm who told u ethopia or Kenya is fighting alshabab or buying the weapon platforms from their defence budget. On the issue of the extra budgetary allocation for defence spend are u aware the services were not told to prepare a shopping list previously (guess u know what that means) which is delaying the debate on the floor. Still on the extra budgetary who waits until there is problem before deciding to buy arms. Lest u forgot the defence sector doesn’t perform well with fire brigade approach, any new platform will require training and more training. These equipments in question have not even arrived except u have seen them somewhere. Food for thoughts an infantry battalion requires a minimum of 88 mix of IFV/APC while a tank battalion requires 36 MBT in addition to APCs. guess u are aware acquisitions have being in piecemeal. If only u have seen how a Hilux or Ford Ranger looks after coming under small arms fire u will have a rethink about your under performance statement. Those are the vehicles predominately in the front line for the troops . The fact troops are still brave enough to fight in the front line is a kudos to them. Before u utter the words ‘under performance’ walk in their shoes. Follow the steps of ur dad ,Join the military, defend the nation. After service if you make it out alive join the queue for ur pension. Additionally, if u are not qualified to join the service there is the CJTF which is also service to the nation.
Hmm who told u ethopia or Kenya is fighting alshabab or buying the weapon platforms from their defence budget. Do u have details of the expenditures for ECOMOG, it was a lot if u consider the fact that we provided logistics for the other continents and provided CAS. Furthermore, it’s those same equipment that is still being used for BH lest the MI 35 ( strange after all these years and battle stress). On the issue of the extra budgetary allocation for defence spend are u aware the services were not told to prepare a shopping list previously (guess u know what that means) which is delaying the debate on the floor. Still on the extra budgetary who waits until there is problem before deciding to buy arms. Lest u forgot the defence sector doesn’t perform well with fire brigade approach, any new platform will require training and more training. These equipments in question have not even arrived except u have seen them somewhere. Food for thoughts an infantry battalion requires a minimum of 88 mix of IFV/APC while a tank battalion requires 36 MBT in addition to APCs. guess u are aware acquisitions have being in piecemeal. If only u have seen how a Hilux or Ford Ranger looks after coming under small arms fire u will have a rethink about your under performance statement. Those are the vehicles predominately in the front line for the troops . The fact troops are still brave enough to fight in the front line is a kudos to them. Before u utter the words ‘under performance’ walk in their shoes. Follow the steps of ur dad ,Join the military, defend the nation. After service if you make it out alive join the queue for ur pension. Additionally, if u are not qualified to join the service there is the CJTF which is also service to the nation.
Mister Saleh, na u get ur mouth….
i repeat, u are in no position to pontificate from ur high horse.
Everybody contributes to nigeria in his own way.
I could as well be a medical personnel who helped fight ebola. That- is also facing death.
So don’t preach to me.
As for kenya and ethiopia vis avis somalia and defence expenditures…i am sure u have google to search out other relevant info…
http://www.npr.org/2012/01/11/145046988/ethiopia-invades-somalia-in-fight-against-al-shabab
Regards the ethopia and Kenya expenditures against al shabab didn’t u read the link u posted, it says their forces are being supported by the US. What do u think the support means. Ask the Egyptians what US military support means. The ethopian or Kenyans do not deny the fact they are equipped and armed by the US. Anyway I rest my case. If u are actually a part of the medics that stopped the ebola issue in Nigeria thanks for a job well done but if u r claiming the glory of our brave combatant medics shame on u cos u are no better than the politicians.
Hmmm…somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed.
Mr saleh, I see u have an itch u want me 2 scratch.
I will not oblige u.
Look for that trouble elsewhere…
http://www.tribune.com.ng/news/news-headlines/item/19514-us-army-policy-on-nigeria-double-faced-ex-envoy
This marks the first time a former high ranking diplomat will criticize the US govt and by extension one of the most useless , inefficient US ambassadors to Nigeria.
What this AMBASSADOR has done is to ensure that relations between the US and Nigeria will continue on a consistent downward spiral.
When he goes back to the states in a few months he look himself in the mirror as having nothing- oh I forgot he witnessed a Governorship election in Adamawa State nah it did not take place.
* he can look himself*
* having done nothing*
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29762713
Something the F.G.N should contemplate.
Yes Oga Jimmy, FG should ban BBC Hausa service next time they misbehave, and we can show the world how open we are by inviting Chinese news agency Xinhua into north east war zone to do good reporting for us as a partner for international news coverage on the war. Any USA/EU enemy who does not like it can go to world court at the Hague.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/negotiate-crush-boko-haram-kwankwaso-tells-jonathan/
Oga Beeg? why have you let hijackers turn this blog into a chaotic forum like skyscrapercity with everyone trying to outshine the other posting crap that holds no relevance. Going AWOL is an offence.
Oje, you are actually the No1 culprit of what you accuse others of. You would be doing this blog a lot of favour, if you could just stop posting all the irrelevent jargons you post here and allow those with true wissen to do it. You are cheapening the Beegeagle blog.
You are such a simpleton. No further comment.
Oga oje Godbless u i was just wondering how the nigerian navy would fare if it were in the shoes of the swedish navy.they are simply seeinv the effects of a poor nato country navy.much to learn from
Sweden is not a part of NATO, I don’t think.
Thanks Buchi, it is worthy to note that as far back as the eighties the Nigerian Navy has placed a lot of resources and doctrine on developing anti submarine warfare skill, they know too well the dangers and damage a single submarine can cause to an adversary. We need 5 of these, but having just two coupled with the two ATR maritime Surveillance aircraft the Nigeria Navy in a league of its own in West/East/Central Africa.
Arms deal cash returned to Abuja :
http://www.punchng.com/news/south-africa-returns-seized-15m-to-nigeria/
GREAT! , medicine after death. The ploy to embarase Nigeria in response to the loss of 67 South Africans in the Synagogue church has been achieved.
Would you rather they (South Africa) kept the cash??
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/military-doubts-boko-haram-ceasefire-expects-deadlier-attacks/
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/terrorism-army-sends-goc-office/
Sometimes Ireally have to get on my knees and pray do some people really hate Nigeria this much?.I am not being emotional but why remove one of your best Maj Generals from the field what is the rush now to give this battle hardened general a desk job , nah wah . Please God whatever the sins of Nigeria please forgive them she does not deserve this
First to be given the job of Army sec was Maj Gen ILLYAH now this, this promotion could of waited now what is the rush kilode now,I am sure Gen ALLI is a fine officer I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH HIM BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME PROMOTE THE GUYS SCHEDULED TO RETIRE TO LT .GEN PROMOTE THE CHIEF TO GEN ( 4 STAR) END OF STORY.
Oga Jimmy, believe me the DHQ knows best. Let’s give them the benefit of the doubt. We shouldn’t judge from what we read on the pages of newspapers.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29771099
THE US weapons to Egypt due to their human right record.
should not sell
My ogas, last night i saw the last few seconds of an NTA news report at 7p.m,, about deliveries of hardware to the NA. I saw an APC……Unfortunately the report isn’t included in the recorded versions of the news on youtube. Did someone watch the news live?
http://leadership.ng/news/388218/boko-haram-dozens-killed-multi-national-forces-recapture-abadam
REVEALED: Nigeria’s secret deal with Boko Haram .
http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/26/601.html
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/national/27-Oct-2014/pakistan-offers-services-of-defence-industries-to-nigeria&sa=U&ei=Y6NOVLL5PIKpOqaJgNAG&ved=0CBQQqQIwAA&usg=AFQjCNFsulV8pkPT7Ow17HAfxTOJv4LMHg
NAF chief in Pakistan..I wonder when the NAF will get tired of speculating…and get the assets! Next thing we know, more jets for the presidential fleet!
Story is like saying NAF is being offered JF-17 Thunder all over again, well we thought we already have received some in September. Dis na confusion galore, abi?
Gone back over the four years of threads on this blog. Other than the helicopters, none of the fixed wing attack aircraft speculated on here has ever been delivered and the choppers not in the number envisaged.
I suspect snippets about purchases and deliveries on 3rd, 4th, 5th, 10th gen multirole fighters are often given to and by some individuals here are for disinformation and to discredit in many parts, Beegeagle.
The Sukhois, Tucano, J17 et al. To be displayed at the annual air show etc.In reality, nothing. Hopes are then raised and dashed so many times.
Augustine, this is why i’ve continued to harp on the fact that we must stop speculating over things we might or might not have. Until there is official confirmation of procurements made or photos provided to back-up these multiple claims, they do not exist, we cannot continue to depend on hearsay. Doing that, erodes the credibility of this blog.
We just have to wait for IDEAS 2014 to commence on December 1. The CAS has said, Nigeria would be sending a high-powered delegation. The CAS signed Defence production MOU’s with the pakistanis.
Oga AOK, we received helicopters in numbers which far exceeded our expectations on this blog. We had calculated for 19 helicopters, instead F.G placed orders for 40.
http://www.punchng.com/news/displaced-bharams-victims-eat-grass-to-survive/
I guess newspapers and blogspots do not give reliable information:
Where are the NAF platforms.
I have always believed if you want information you go and get it, at list from the street and affected persons are best sources. You can always analyze information; after all, intelligence you all talk about is information gathering and analysis.
I can tell you that I strongly believe BOKOHARAM would be over by December 2014
I understand that BAMA is free of BH, DAMBOUA is free of BH
This is contrary to the words of some senators of the Federal Republic of Nigeria as advertised on some dallies.
Poor information management is able to fuel crisis like petrol on tire
Chief Henry
Great to be positive but let us wait for the deliveries please. Orders can be cancelled and deposits lost. I’m sure we can point to many such instances in our past.
Oga AOK, bar any failures in deliveries, we are currently sure of 40 helicopters for our Airforce.
Oga Henry, I await but not holding my breath.
Oga AOK-Me i go fit tell you say we go receive 6 Mi35 and 6Mi17sh before year runs out from Russia. We shall also receive Start up delivery of alot of Streit APCs ( having signed MOU for 400pcs with cash backing for the first tranch of delivery last month) . We shall also receive Shipment by sea of Upamoured T72 ( different from the emergency shipment by air of a few units to turn the tide-less than 2 dozens)-Vickers have been certified as not worth upgrading.This order is cash backed from two separate plants in 2 countries.
Concerning 4th gen- even insiders are confused-we have gone on inspections,demonstrations,signed MOUs,set up investigative/recommendation panels on so many offers-Kfir,upgraded ALCAs,JF17,Upgraded Su27,Mig29,new Su30…… we know something got cash backing few months back- what it is we do not know.
Oga Solarex, the 400pcs of Streit APCs mentioned are actually for a North African country not West African.
“Vickers have been certified as not worth upgrading.This order is cash backed from two separate plants in 2 countries.”
OGA SOLOREX
Can you explain what you mean by this? are the VICKERS being consigned to the dustbin? what do you mean by cash backed from two separate plants in two countries for what kind of tank the T72/ T84or the Vickers (rolling my eyes hope to god we sell what we have as spare parts) .
http://www.businessinsider.com/most-powerful-militaries-in-the-middle-east-2014-8?op=1
Oga HENRY
is most def right on two fronts
1) We should speculate No more
2) With the now acceptance of the $1b loan in addition to the previous $1b .Nigeria will most def be getting 40 Helios , the only difference is that before the majority were supposed to come from the Western Nations based on what has now transpired it is more than certain more than 95% will come from the East ( Russia, China, Belarus) with the exception of some utility helios none of which will be U.S. made.
The F.G. needs to honestly make up their mind do they want a potent AIRFORCE OR DO THEY WANT TO LEAVE THEIR AIRSPACE UNPROTECTED AND ONE DAY SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES. These endless photo ops either need to produce something on the ground and i mean something tangible or they need to really stop wasting their everybody’s time.
A) Nigeria needs to make a solid decision acquire a squadron of jf-17 ( 12- 16) with the option of TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER OR KEEP DAY DREAMING ABOUT ACQUIRING AN F-16 from the u.s.
b) The CAS needs to meet with his Russian counterpart to set up a schedule to buy the upgraded version of the SU27/ 30 with upgrades and Night flying avionics, or they can keep dreaming how the girls will be handed over by another President who cannot even govern his own family let alone his country,
The strongest advocate for the NAF HAS TO BE IT’S CHIEF HE HAS FIVE MONTHS (MAY 2015), when his tenure is likely to expire unless GEJ gets reelected and he then decides to keep his service chiefs, it is his job to be truthful to inform the presidency of the need to have these two platforms to secure the security of our airspace.
Oga Jimmy Hollyee, my point exactly. I propose we wait and see what IDEAS 2014 would bring for us. The CAS who signed defence production collaboration contracts has said, Nigeria would send a strong delegation to the Expo.
IDEAS 2014 is a Pakistani defence expo, holding from the 1- 4 december.
e b lyk oga beegy don run
Its like Oga beegs has gone AWOL again..I don’t blame him..working so hard all these years to contribute his own quota to Nat. Dev. But its so sad that we have a. Government so unserious and irresponsible..The BH crisis caught the military napping..and oh yeah, we paid in blood..are we going to make the same mistake again? Now the crisis is reaching a conclusion and its back to our old ways or reasoning..how LONG will it take to get airframes for the NAF? How long is the so-called GIANT of Africa going to continue basking in the sun sleeping? Two years ago, the french navy had the GUTS to violate our territorial integrity yet Coast Guard Navy could do nothing! What REAL military acquistions has this present government made for the NAF? Take a look at the Algerian Air Force’s assets, you will almost weep for this country..This is a country also fought an insurgency..we have been permutating on this blog for YEARS, yet nothing to show for it! Is it not painful? The NAF prefers to work its Alpha Jets to death than do the needful..Now, the offices of the three services is now a political appointment..ill love to see headlines like “NAF chief falls out with presidency and finance minister over inadequate airframes for the NAF” OR “NAF embarks on massive acquistions: 35 Su-27s, 15 JF-17s, 40 Mi-24s, 15 Super Tucanos expected, Mi-8 helics also arriving” Is that too much to ask? Until the offices of the defence chief becomes less political, no real change will take place in our military.
Oga beeg has payed his dues, and he has consistently shown he’s a true naija-patriot. Whatever action he takes should be in his best possible interest.
As always, I fully support him.
Seconded.
i’m assembling a Special Operations Unit to search for Oga Beeg.
BoKo Haram attempted to take Mubi Town today but they were repelled by our gallant security forces,well done guys,Boots on the ground.
Oga Gbash Longtime…..
My guy gbash bh r fully in control of mubi town nd battalion stationed there was SACKED! May God help us in naija
Don’t worry we are on ceasefire. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
I tell you bigotry will kill this country. Only in Northern Nigeria would they consider a ceasefire with such a vile group. If this was Igbo land, the Government would put at least 300,000 soldiers on ground to stabilise the area. For crying out loud, the Government used more soldiers in Abia State to tackle the kidnapping, when the criminals had taken over the state.
The reality is, no one cares about the situation up there, because it doesn’t effect the economy nor do the people there contribute much to the nation.
Oga Cerberus98,you are right,BH insurgents were already in Mubi Town waiting for orders to strike, some boosts on ground survived narrowly. Surprise attack.
BH must have sneaked up on the guys. The leadership issues we have in Nigeria are now becoming alarming. There is a proposed ceasefire on, the factions involved are still unclear yet air force operations and sorties had been going on (ostensibly against the recalcitrant factions). In the midst of these, somebody took eyes off the ball in terms of intelligence and readiness of ground troops. The result is what we now have- a possible untidy tactical retreat from parts of Mubi.
@rdokeye Please maybe u didnt get the memo but this place is not a ground for breeding ethic sentiments please lets not turn this place into another Nairaland.
I don’t chat on Nairaland, the truth is the truth. Nigeria needs to be more equitable if it ever hopes to remain intact, meaning, the government should treat this insurgency like it’s the Niger Delta being overrun, and thus send in 100,000s of thousands of soldiers to secure the area.
But I don’t see that happening, the government uses a greater sense of urgency to stamp out MOSSOB, and there a nonviolent group. It’s ridiculous!
Rd okoye Much respect for your comments. Please I am begging you this is not about massob or odua . Please I am saying and a lot of us are pleading with you, do not bring that angle at every conjecture into your discussion we have a lot of. Ibo brothers on this blog but you have mentioned it twice. A lot of us have kept quiet and seethed in anger ,however let us stay focused on mubi and the most inept ceasefire recorded in history. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
I dont support all these neo biafran bullshit from all these new SE youth around. It is all very saddening and un necessary. Young people should stop spreading pre 60s atavistic tendencies no matter what stories their parents have told them. Please let us get serious in this country. MASSOB should be crushed the same way OPC, EGBESU and Boko Haram should be. MASSOB even vtried to invade a state government house, they are lucky some of us are not in government.
Nigeria’s defsec leadership is on a mission to thoroughly embarrass the President and because of his very obvious weaknesses, the poor guy does not even know what to do now. Many knowledge able people on this blog have rightfully ‘switched off’ from commenting because the sheer incompetence of the military, SSS and the NSA is on a scale that is too shocking to believe. Personally I have not seen a more clueless bunch than these guys. You actually need to muster all your ‘patriotic feelings’ to find something good to say about this government with all recent developments in the defence and security of this country. Things are not helped by all the banana republic style praise and worship that un exposed commentators think they must keep throwing out the there…. as if these people are children who need encouragement to make it to the finish line of some kindergarten relay race. We are known as a very corrupt country, must we add moral cowardice and shameless fear of the truth to it.
Spot on…
Imagine what those BH guys would now do with all the equipment in their hands from the battallion they have now overrun in Mubi. The KIA is so depressing…
Lol Mubi is donated
BH keeps on seizing territory whilst FGN is ceasing fire?????!!!! Just doesn’t make sense. S.M.H
We are going on a Defcon 1 War footing now. @ Bigbrover RdOkoye is right, the ”ceasefire” negotiations/deal or what ever misnomer we choose to call it was a disaster from the onset. Even the most ardent of pacifist was surprised that the Nigerian military did not cease the initiative and decapitate this group once and for all once ”their” cease fire overtures was evident. Rather Jonathan used the ”free the girls” back corridor to take the easy way out. Now we are forced ti eat humble pie and realise that there is no reasoning with these people, willful naivety and complacency is the bane of the Nigerian military. In one stead Africa biggest military south of the Sahara cannot defeat a group pf rag tag terrorist groups and is not fearsome enough to prevent neighbors like Cameroon and Chad to use this as an opportunity to put her giant neighbor in its place.
The army fled Mubi without firing a shot. The airforce were the only ones who went in. I smell sabotage. The army didn’t even face the insurgents who weren’t many btw. Apparently they had orders. Who gave those orders? We can curse at the govt or military leadership but something else is going on.
It’s no coincidence that Gen Zaruwa was posted out from Jos 2 weeks ago
Can u further elaborate oga menatti
I was bitterly disappointed when Gen Hard as nails Zaruwa was promoted to Abuja.Due to some 2stars being ready for retirement.As a general he led personally fron the front.Adamawa was turning ibto a graveyard for BH.Somebody somewhere did not like his men by extension him succeeding hence the promotion.By the way the redeployments are supposed to take place in December why the rush? T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
You got that right. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Oga Menatti, BH had infiltrated the Population in Mubi before they attacked. How do you expect a few number of soldiers to defend Mubi Town,when part of the Battalion’s troops have been dispersed in other areas of operations in the North East ?
Yola and Maiduguri Towns are the main objectives of the Bolo Haram insurgents now. The DSS,DIA,DMI,NA,and NAF ,should comb both towns to round up all fifth-columns and BH members that might have infiltrated these towns.
If the FG will not give enough money to the NAF to buy a large amount of avGas or even supply the fuel to all FOB and bombs,for them to smoke those savages to Hell,then the State House should be relocated to Yola or Maiduguri,my friends just survived a surprised attack in Mubi!
Oga gbash Can your friend tell us who is in control of the town mubi. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
“Oga gbash and gentlemen of this patriotic blog, what is going on in Adamawa defies logic!
LOL!!!
Please keep calm, have faith and do your patriotic duty.
Wait o, if the CDS cannot protect his own people, his own state, where can he protect?
This is the exact message that bh has sent.Your number one guy cannot protect his state how on earth can he protect Nigeria. The message that bh is sending directly to the cds that is the real boko haram is this there is no cease fire,there will be no exchange of girls,the only thing the bastards have not done is something I will not mention on this blog but draw your conclusions. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
This goes beyond ineptitude, it is sabotage. Cease fire or not intelligence should be ultra vigilant given the common knowledge that BH had a core group that were on the offensive. It is now very apparent, the political leadership at Abuja and the military top brasses are completely (and shamefully) naive to the danger at hand. They think we can talk our way out of this sickness, and then everybody hug and kiss and all becomes hunky dory again. With this attitude, in few months there will be no nation to pillage her public till. This is a terrible failure. My blood is dancing with anger just now.
http://odili.net/news/source/2014/oct/30/509.html
@oga oges
There is no gadammn ceasefire IT ONLY EXISTS in the mind of the CDS, i am getting increasingly irritated by his and by extension the presidency’s ineptitude, PLEASE WATCH THIS SPACE IF IN 24 HOURS THE army does not go on the offensive you start to see a very strategic pattern of what boko haram is doing.
WORDS ON MARBLE:
Next week Monday NOVEMBER 3RD All the 219 Chibok girls will still be in CAPTIVITY.
Since we all believe in mofos called prophets I WILL HAVE MY NEXT PREDICTION TOMORROW.
Fighting continues in Mubi.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/battle-for-mubi-continues-between-nigerian-troops-and-boko-haram/192707/
We can’t our leaders just lead?
NA was on the verge of clearing all of Adamawa state just a few weeks ago, but the leadership said “STOP”.
“STOP”? To give BH time to recover, regenerate, and regain the initiative?
The failure of leadership is so glaring that one is forced to look away.
The Air Force wiped out the BH that attacked the cds’s village but this was after the damage had been done. Apparently the guys weren’t even more that 60. Why did the army withdraw and leave apc’s. And yes a ceasefire was announced but that doesn’t mean the military stopped all offensive against the sect. Again I ask why would the army withdraw even when there is air power and an art above telling them the number of BH attackers.
In the last BH video, there was no APC in sight. Are you telling me that the NA has decided to re-donate APCs? Again?
Shekau has rubbed it in. He is claiming. 20 armoured vehicles captured (donated). We are afraid to counter the figure lest we see another video with all of them lined up with serial nos and chassis nos.
I will tell you why in harsh blunt language 1.The GOC who knows his men on the ground was removed,and as such for someone who is a hands on ground person would know how to redirect resources immediatly the attacks, the new guy is just getting his feet wet and does not know the incompetent officers from the competent so as to overrule. 2.This administration wants a fake peace at all costs. Therefore no offensive patrols were allowed hence the succesful infiltration. 3.There is a historical precedent for what happened @Mubi in the 1850s the king of dahomey sent his foreign amazon warriors to invade parts of the the southwest,they partially succeded and almost made their way to lagos based primairly on fear it when some of the soldiers were captured and discovered to be women that the tide of battle turned. Fear will make a man shit in his pants way before the enemy approaches you can have all the weapons in the world if your leader a captain who is to lead into battle is making plans to get out of town the seargents and privates willfollow. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Maybe one of BH’ s demands for releasing the girls included brand new APCs and other weapons. Some of the people letting this country of 180million people down are coming soon to go into politics. They would want to be governors and senators of the same states they are allowing to boil in this manner. We shall be waiting with enough information for Nigerians when they do come.
Our military leadership are clueless, intelligence zero and fighting spirit useless. Nigeria need change.
The weapons BH would get in Mubi will not be that much, however, some of the best sniper rifles might be their reward of that surprise attack.
Gbash, why in the world would a trained marksman abandon his rifle and why would an army unit abandon their APCs in the event of a planned retreat? In which vehicles did they retreat? Please help me understand. I hear some very weird stuff in this country. You have to wear patriotism 77 times to support the Nigerian military and their decisions.
Recall the crated weapons mentioned on this blog some time ago,special weapons that were introduced into the NA to tackle BH insurgents.
Gbash, how far?
Any news on new equipment for the Air Force?
I don tire sha….
Nigeria army says they don’t have weapons to fight insurgents- thatz why they have to make “tactical withdrawals”…
U give them state of the art weapons- then they go and hand it over to the insurgents..
And why is there deafening silence on sacking of Aliyu gusau and his side kick sambo dasuki??
Na wa!! Diaris God oooo!
Lol, if it were Andrew Azazi and Ihejirika people would be up in arms. Our military is poorly trained, and poorly motivated, been poorly equipped is the one thing they are not. They have, never lacked weapons in the required numbers.
You have to have patriotism that is 10 folds to support them. They, military and government have continued to embarrass the Nation. Shekau has come out to deny any sort of negotiations with the government. Further embarrassment for Nigerians.
Anyway, na dem sabi.
presido Jonah, which one e be na? allow so much carnage and destruction so the Jan 2015 can be postponed or cancelled due to the precarious security situation? or you just don’t give a fuck about the Northern part of Nigeria or the soldiers who you send in harms way to defend it. Me i confuse o. If you need my vote 2015, think again o.
Mubi town, true situation cannot be confirmed until battle is over, let us calm down and watch.
Ceasefire cannot be 100% because Boko Haram has different factions and leaders who don’t always agree.
FG and DHQ is handicapped by their desire to save the 200 Chibok girls at this time that Boko is weaker.
It’s a dilemma we have to live with until we have the girls back, how many of us can proffer a better solution? Let’s see how it plays out, let’s wait.
We can afford a few Boko gains, till we get the girls and launch final offensive.
I think both FG-DHQ and Bokos are all re-arming for final offensive while they ceasefire, we can afford it, Boko will never be the same again this year, they have lost too many leaders, men and weapons to regain full strength this year. However, they would surely grow up into a mighty octopus again if we give them several months to prepare.
My own views.
How many people have been killed since the Chibok girls were kidnapped?
How many more people have been kidnapped AFTER the Chibok girls were kidnapped?
The answer to both questions is “MORE than 200”
Because the Chibok girls have international recognition, they have become a political goal.
That means they have become a lever that many different parties can try and use.
Any half sentient being would quickly recognize that BH is the problem.
Each week, promises are made that “the girls are about to be released”
What is happening now is that the FG is being put through the diplomatic version of the 419 trick: “wash wash”.
Finally, how many people were killed in the past few days in Mubi and other Adamawa state towns and villages? Their lives don’t count because they are not the “Chibok girls”?
The FG’s primary goal is to protect the lives and freedom of ALL Nigerians.
Currently, we are allowing hundreds to be killed on a continuous bases to save 200.
That is irresponsible.
If Nigerians are told that they are incompetent and they never know what they are doing, they would say na lie you insult us, have his head. How could the army loose MUBI, even the CDS could not protect his home town.
What was the capacity of the invading force?
Thank you sir.
I have been trying to introduce that word “incompetence” to this blog for years, but blind patriotism always got in the way.
We have the problem, we are paying the price. The problem is that Nigeria’s defense sector has never been very competent, due to poor leadership and poor investment.
We have refused to do what it takes, to rescue our military.
In Iraq, where the military is similarly falling apart, under the assault of ISIS, the remedy to the problem, is embedded military experts . US in this case. Also, the politics of national unity must 1st take hold.
They will advice and mentor the entire organization at all levels, from the HQ to the company level.
They will point out our institutional flaws, and influence the remedies.
It is not perfect, but it is the best solution out there.
Forget the country the PMC may come from. You may be predisposed to not liking the country. For instance, Nigeria’s problems with Zuma, might affect the way we see STTEP or the Paramount group.
Their are competent and proven PMC groups in other nations if Zuma is too much for us to swallow.
BH will NOT be wished away, they will only grow stronger. They have everything in their favor. An impoverished populous to recruit from, financiers, a conducive and enabling political environment, Available source of arms, ( The Nigerian Army being one of them)
As I predicted, they will first expel the 7th division from the tri states of the north east, then they will advance south. 1st on Abuja, then on the rest of the complacent country.
After they subdue the NA or rather, if we let them subdue the NA, then who is going to stop them and their Chadian mercenaries from sacking Nigeria as a whole ?
GEJ is way too incompetent as a military leader, my problem is, I don’t think the other money grubbing aspirants are any better.
Alpha jets and F-7s carry way too few bombs per sortie to be the mainstay of NAF.
Like Sudan, we should have invested in SU-25 heavy ground attack jets, tucano counterinsurgency turbo props, SU-24 , a heavy long distance strike jet for BH’s foreign bases or Nigerian held garrisons.
Mi-24/35 with night vision and precision missiles should have surpassed 50 units by now.
Uragan, smerch, the Chinese A-100 and the old BM-21 grad rockets should be available to NA in abundance.
Whether a nation state or a private military group, those with expertise in solutions to our very obvious problems, should be contracted for an advisory/ mentorship based relationship with the NA. Not just one off trainings like those in Russia, isreal or the US.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/10/terrorists-overrun-cds-badehs-home-town/
Since all is well in Nigeria the cds should go on vacation to his hometown.
THIS IS THE REAL BOKO HARAM
prediction of the day
BY THE WEEKEND BH WILL ATTACK MORE TOWNS IN THE ADAMAWA/ CAMEROON AXIS
Nigerian army be warned, there is no cease fire they do not want a cease fire they bh want more towns under their control.
Hmm…so much for a “Ceasefire”…where is the C-in-C? Where is the CDS? Where is the COAS?…at a NAOWA fund-raiser I guess..lol..Heads should roll for this..First Bama, then Gworza, then Domboa, now Mubi? Can we keep ceeding territory to BH? The territorial integrity of Nigeria is at stake here and our politicians are desperate for a ceasefire..which to me, is a phyrrhic victory..The entire top echelon of the Armed Forces has proven to be incompetent..The COAS who oga beegs kept on hailing as the “jumping General” is nothing but a abyssmal failure..what kind of CDS tells his men to respect a ceasefire with terrorists? The CDS; Badeh is the most incompetent so far..Overweight and myopic..military wise..Let’s not even start with the the “C-in-C..how is a military victory possible with a military who has REFUSED to equip its Air force, whose top brass are more of political lackeys than Generals? How on earth will Mubi fall to BH? GEJ, you have failed this country woefully..you can keep on with your nonsensical TAN 2015 campaign..as far as any I am concerned, I won’t wait for BH to reach Lagos..Ill kick you out in 2015..along with your yeye “Generals”.
Disagree on the COAS. I think the CDS should go.
Right now, I’m just so angry..early today, news started trickling in that students at FEDPOLY, at Mubi have fled with many residents currently fleeing..only to hear this evening that the FG had withdrawn the orderlies of the HOR speaker because he defected from the ruling party…what kind of sick government will still have time for petty politics when its major towns are falling to terrorists? Now I just heard that the new VIP transport helic has been inducted..is that not madness? When the NAF lacks adequate airframes? The ENTIRE top brass should be sacked..Chikena
The news from Mubi is not good at all.
Damboa was recovered a few months ago.
I agree with u 100% from all indications kenneth minimah is disappointment and has failed to live up to hype jumping general or incompetent general ! Such Complete disgrace as for that fat teletubby well let me just keep quiet as no words can best describe his level of incompetence
These service chiefs( or thieves) are lucky we are nt in old ussr if nt they would hav been sent to a gulag where they will shovel shit for the rest of their lives
I hate this kind of talk. It is shortsighted and unproductive.
The first thing to note in this matter, is that talks are being brokered by Chad, which clearly points to a sizable foreign dimension.
The second is that boko haram is claimed to manoeuvre like the Chadian army – that in itself has several fundamental implications.
The third is that Nigeria is well and truly surrounded by Francophone countries, make what you will of that.
The fourth and most important is that, THERE IS OIL IN COMMERCIAL QUANTITIES in Borno state (and consequent negative foreign interest).
It is not just about levying brawn and violence on boko haram. We have to completely expose the countries behind boko haram too, and I think a “ceasefire” goes a long way to getting actors to show their faces. Idriss Deby has.
The big question now is how to deal with Idriss Deby and Paul Biya. I am sure we can quickly destroy Chads air force with low flying attack helicopters or some other novel method. If the slaughter of boko haram is anything to go by, then the Chadian infantry would be a cake walk, plus Chad has several internal insurgencies of its own that could take advantage. There is a lot of thinking to do, I’m sure boko haram will be slaughtered as usual in Mubi, but that’s far from our main problem.
Also, new article: https://www.ctc.usma.edu/posts/boko-haram-recruitment-financing-and-arms-trafficking-in-the-lake-chad-region
Now I know how the Emperor and Senators behaved when the Barbarians were at the gates of Rome.
As if to further mock the simpletons we have running Nigeria and its military, AFP (the Boko Haram friendly news agency) have a new video of ”Shekau The Dead” same face and mannerisms debunking any ceasefire deal with the Nigerian government. This development involving the new video had been predicted by one or two people here on Beegeagle suggesting as we have previously suspected before that there are some geniuses in the house…lol. Sorry for the joke but the situation is so annoying that this all that keeps people sane these days.
Chad and Cameroun must be having a laff…. This whole war has been mismanaged right from day 1. We lived in denial, played politics and sent some innocent patriotic Nigerians to their graves.
How can a band of thugs be running around killing and maiming our citizens so brazenly for this long ? I doubt that the majority of NIgerians are concerned with what is happening in the NE.
Some senior people have blood on their hands and MUST stand trial one day. The president gave them all they asked for, The former COAS forcefully took over this mission from Defence and completely messed it up.
Some people here have been dreaming of all manner of aircrafts (Sukhois, Tucanos, Migs etc). There was never any order for any of this airframes. The 40 helicopters was more of a psy ops on the part of the goverment. The Beechcraft Super Kings are flying all over the place with VIP’s and our boys are dying from lack of air support.Air Commodores are struggling with Sqn ldrs to fly transport aircraft and we say we have an air force ?
This are hard times and we have to be humble and face the stark truth. We do need foreign assistance. We can pay our way to win this war. Let’s get Chenchen mercenaries to come and end this thing for $250M. Shame no dey again…
We can now then sit down after the smoke has stopped and properly put in place a roadmap to modernise our Armed forces completely isolated from the daily politics in Nigeria. We would continue to face different threats over time both in the Niger Delta, Gulf of guinea etc and we need to be ready to salvage our reputation.
GOD help Nigeria and GOD bless the FRN.
Hehe he Oga Zachary 999, you funny o.
You want to recruit islamist Chechen rebels for 250 million ? to defeat Islamist BH ?
They will laugh, then collect your money, then join BH to finish us of.
Jokes aside, I appreciate your realization that NA needs a Professional Military Company full of counterinsurgency experts and veterans to win this war.
Our military as is, is “out of it’s depths”.
To live for tomorrow, we have to make this decision today.
And as you rightfully said, after the emergency, we can do a national soul searching as to how we allowed our military to get to it’s present state.
This government and its officials are an embarrassment not just to Nigerians and Africa but the entire humanity. There is a point where one can no longer pretend that things are going to be fine. The Nigerian government leaves one without choice other than to state the obvious, that with the way things are going, we are simply moving like a brake-less bullet hurtling at eye-watery speed to a waiting crash.
How could anyone in the government justify this embarrassing ceasefire with Boko Haram at a time the Nigerian armed forces seemed to have found the right tactics against Boko Haram? In the history of warfare, no country makes peace with an enemy when it could smell victory. That is what the government has done, as soon as the armed forces were starting to push Boko Haram with their backs to the wall, then came this most ill-thought ceasefire.
By the action of this government and its officials, it has become clearer that Boko Haram is official. We should no longer pretend that we are fighting a separate, wholly unknown enemy rather we are fighting against the same people who we have put in government to run the affairs of the country. Either by deliberate omission or commission, the government and Boko Haram are official. Right from the start, going back to the death of Mohammed Yusuf when it became obvious he was about to spill the beans, he was killed. Kabiru Umar regularly spent time in the government lodge of one of the North East States, the government hierarchy cavorts with the very individuals fingered as the financiers of these terror groups. An ex-head of state once declared that if an ‘insurgency lasts more than 48 hours’ the government knows about it.
The aggressive behaviour of the government toward the groups campaigning for the return of the Chibok girls is unusual because they are supposed to be on the same page with the government if it is sincere in rescuing the girls.
But the most worrying part is that, although money has been allocated to equip the armed forces to fight the insurgents, government’s behaviour, it’s lack of willingness to directly negotiate on a bilateral levels with states such as China and Russia who have openly asked the Nigerian government to make a formal request on that basis which the government have so far ignored preferring to order through third parties at inflated prices often through dealers who have no direct licence to procure such weaponry. The behaviour of the government lends credence to the long held suspicions that we are witnessing a repeat of the script used by pre-1999 military administration, but rather this time on a bigger scale.
Is it possible that the government, with an armed forces and multi-agency services with a budgetary and extra-budgetary spending power reaching £12 billion could not as much as verify the identity of the people who were fronting as Boko Haram negotiators for the release of the Chibok girls and the silly ceasefire that the military flatly fell for. If Cameroon with less resources was able to negotiate directly with Boko Haram which is a Nigerian group, then it defies logic to believe that our government could not do the same unless of course we admit that the people who run the current government have an IQ which in all honesty is below that of an earthworm.
This government owes Nigerians the duty to explain who actually is Boko Haram.
Please my Oga’s if you have friends or family in the North advise them to move.
If you have investments shut them down and get the cash.
With the full force of my knowledge and experience, we are (in my expert opinion) fucked.
I am tired of holding my tongue but even if I say what I think or what I know it makes no difference.
I can only descend to the level of other Nigerians and pray for our brothers and sisters in the North, the men and women of our military and security forces because nobody who could help them or end this is going to do so.
War is business and business is good.
Hey, brother how far ??
I suspected you knew this truth all along.
You should have back my calls for embedded PMCs for NA.
We had all those rich debates with Colonel Eeben, in the archives of this blog.
Our national pride and exuberance led to some bloggers nearly insulting the man, rather than quietly listening to whatever he had to say.
Dude is a re known expert and veteran in all off the security challenges that afflicts Nigeria.
Anyway, he will do business elsewhere, and we are the ones that will be left with a failed or divided nation, wondering what could have been.
It’s strange some of you guys see PMC as superhumans I know personnel of our armed forces that are working or worked with these guys the are no better than our military. Where have PMC brought lasting peace in the world. The problem is not with the military but political heads. Which soldier do you think wants to die for a nation that doesn’t care for him or his family, guess u hear of the situation of military pensioners. There are colonel who retire into poverty talk less of other ranks. This blog have being surviving on hearsay of soon to be bought platforms but still nothing on ground when any equipment comes it’s in piecemeal and 2 APCs is announced as arming a division instead we hear Nigeria being a lead market for PJ obviously owned by politicians and their cohorts. Some might say it’s the military commanders but pls ask yourselves who appointed them. Everything comes from the political heads. Days ago while we were crying over the mubi incidence the president was busy doing his political ward registration when I would have expected to hear he is at a meeting in a military operation centre demanding answers from his generals. Pls take yourself back to 911 and see what President Bush did after the attack. In Nigeria if half the population is killed and nothing affects the sources of national revenue where they get funds to support their lifestyle, it’s business as usually for our leaders. Ain’t u angry all the Govt have being bordered about these days is the defection of the speaker
Oga Saleh,
I am simply talking of very well trained AND experienced special operative veterans of some of the best proven armed forces in the world.
If you say there is nothing NA in it’s current state can learn from such people about counterinsurgency warfare, you are simply denying the obvious.
Chief of Air Staff in Pakistan….Does this really matter now?
http://www.brecorder.com/top-news/1-front-top-news/201863-nigerian-air-force-chief-visits-paf.html
The entire battalion at Mubi was sacked..the son of the emir of Mubi has been beheaded..Ceasefire? The 3 service chiefs involved should be Court-Martialed..Along with other Junior officers, NCOs and enlisted personnel who have a role to play in this disgrace..How far is Yola(75 S.G) from Mubi? If we had the Tucanos, the story would have been different..How many gunships have we gotten this year? Probably just 3..when the Algerians have about 80 Mi-24s..All the rubbish about the U.S blocking arms sales is ridiculous..It was just an opportunity for Badeh and his cohorts to make cool cash by shopping through back channels..We are 5 yrs into this conflict..what significant airframes has the NAF acquired? Ill tell you, some VIP helics for “2015 logistics”..Pls, let us not be too happy about the USD1bn…its 2015 campaign cash..
@Everybody, please ogas, let us all remember that we live in a secretive Nigeria, we all have less than 5% of the true information about this war, the realities are far from our databases and minds, we only pick up bits and pieces that fall into public domain.
We may be intelligent and knowledgeable, but we have very very limited facts to work on, and then we will draw wrong conclusions because we are starved of info.
The whole war is now officially covered by a massive cloud of secrecy.
Thanks.
The secrecy you are talking about can only be to cover extra constitutional actions or corrupt actions or extremely stupid and irrational actions. In the first place I don’t even think the FG ever had the power to negotiate certain aspects of the ceasefire without the Senate being involved at least. Everything we see has been done to achieve something to show the electorate whilst trying also to protect the presidency at all costs in an election year with everybody forgetting that it is Nigeria that Boko Haram has taken arms against and not the Presidnt only so all stakeholders should have pitched in..most especially the $1million a year salary people I personally despise so much.
The DHQ people and NSA have gotten the President involved in some annoying and humiliating trips to inferior foreign leaders, answering summons of old colonialists for meetings of questionable value and intents, exposed our entire airspace to hostile digital mapping and so on.
The Senators with their cushy $1million dollar salaries have apparently kept themselves off everything and dumped everything on the incapable President’s lap who then promptly dumped it on the CDS’s lap. Now, the CDS has infinite capacity for running into political minefields with his mediocre unreasonable verbiage and rash actions and it will be interesting to see what happens to him in the coming weeks. Meanwhile, the crafty, wily Minister of Defence looks on from the sidelines enjoying everything. I am only sorry for the Chibok girls…next life they should choose a better country to be born in.
Augustine you should be crying for Nigeria, you no get country, u no get government
Maybe you no know but the people of Mubi and Gowoza know
Mubi is a battle, not a war. I am looking at the whole war in North Eastern theatre.
Boko Haram can win 10 battles and still lose the whole war. I just chose not to become sentimental and judge a whole war from my bedroom using a laptop.
None of us has a bird’s eye view and an X-ray view of what is going on, even most officers in Nigerian military don’t have full knowledge. Most NAF officers don’t even know what jets we are getting anew. Most NA officers don’t know what new tanks will arrive. Most NN officers don’t know the full specs of NNS Centenary.
You, and I are citizens of a dark room called Nigeria. We have to live with that fact.
For me, I won’t make a lot of noise based on the very tiny pieces of information available in public domain. Only the topmost level of Nigerian military and Presidency can give you accurate and full information….but they will NEVER give you.
Why not just sidon dey look? I will just hold my peace about what I don’t know.
Bros, information what? what does it take to get talk to people fleeing MUBI an hear the shame
Oga Martin I keep explaining but you don’t get it, Mubi is a battle NOT a war. NE zone is the war as a whole. You don’t judge a war by a battle on 1% of the whole war territory, especially if 500 insurgents defeated 100 soldiers. Let NA put in 600 men of a mech battalion in Mubi and see chapter 2. I am more worried about the whole war than piecemeal battles of Tom & Jerry calibre.
War Generals and Governments look at the whole war and not some tiny flash-points when they want to make big decisions.
Your level of information is limited to news media and some people in Mubi who have zero knowledge of what it means to win a whole war, all they scream is Mubi town.
We should be looking at the whole war unless we want to become like the suya sellers in Mubi town.
http://defenceinfo.mil.ng/troops-raid-terrorists-hideout-in-kawuri-over-50-dead/
I do not not know whether this is old news or not.
OGA AUGUSTINE
What you said is correct100%, i have also be very strident in my opinion to bring Chad and Cameroon on bad in the immortal words of the Mafia bring your friends close but bring your enemy closer it is important for Nigeria to have a decent form of cooperation with both Chad and Cameroon this is the common sense path
What is not making any sense:
1) There is no ceasefire boko haram as well as the NA and the NAF HAVE BOTH USED THIS PERIOD TO RE-KIT ONE SIDE HAS PLAINLY GONE ON THE OFFENSIVE WHILE THE OTHER IS SITTING PAT.
2) The CHIBOK girls are not coming home to an accolade of tears and joy let me very brutally honest about this where it is possible what ever number that can be brutally rescued should be rescued and any boko haram soldiers caught should be tried and prosecuted for crimes against humanity..
3) IN FOUR MONTHS TIME THE FIRST CHILD WILL BE BORN TO A BOKO HARAM FATHER AND A RAPED CHIBOK GIRL.
4) In five months time this administration together with its service chiefs will be the first administration since the civil war to go to the polls asking for another term in office , while parts of NIGERIA are being controlled by a foreign invading force this has not happened since the 1967 civil war.
Oga jimmy, I have been thinking about that important point you raised there, if we cannot get our sisters the 200 Chibok girls by peace, we have to get them by war. Except by miracle, many of the girls will die in a forced rescue attempt, and that is if we are able to locate where they are all dispersed to across the continent. Such likely calamity of a forced rescue It is the price you pay when you do foolish things, like going to school in a Boko Haram zone during a state of emergency, now can they use their WAEC results?
There is a price to pay in life for every major mistake you make, and for every foolish thing you do that is able to affect your destiny.
Bokos want teenage girls, we all know, then you pack 200 girls inside one school in a Boko infested war zone, they you say the eagle stole your chicken that was playing outside on the road, what else do you expect?
The Chibok school principal should be arrested and tried, the LG chairman too, then governor follows after his immunity expires.
We should give the girls a last chance now, but if it fails, they and their parents are the main architects of whatever fate befalls them finally. They broke the rule of common sense in a war zone under state of emergency. I wish them freedom.
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Oga Augustine,
I respect your contributions, but as I said months if not years ago, NA is out of it’s depth.
The institution is groping in the dark for solutions.
Our political class, are full of self serving, unserious people.
The fact that CAF is in Pakistan, still window shopping for arms at this late stage in the game, speaks volumes. They have NO PLANS.
I warned on this blog months ago, in one of my spats with Oga Aso rockweb, that I was worried of a sudden collapse of NA, that would leave unsuspecting Nigeria citizens stranded, and at the mercy of BH.
That has been happening for months in borno, But I think this Mubi episode brought my point home.
So Oga Peccavi, our resident military expert just repeated my erstwhile warning to Nigerians. sell your belongings, get cash and RUN FOR YOUR DEAR LIVES.
In my dream world, for Nigeria, the best performing Governor, Babatunde fashola will be our next president.
Nuhu Ribadu and his proven anti corruption record will be his active and powerful vice president.
Senator Anyanwu and her demonstrated grasp of the importance of military spending, will be defense minister.
EX general Victor Malu, will be national security adviser. His experience in ecomog and the Ivorian and Burkinabe sabotage, will inform Nigeria’s security stance vis a vis our neighbors and Africa at large.
This is my definition of putting your best foot forward.
Empower the most qualified and best performing folks we have. that is the best we can do.
For finance, Madam Okonjo should remain in place,
Olusegun Aganga should remain in place.
Chinedu Nebo, should remain in place.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/shekau-denies-ceasefire-says-chibok-girls-converted-islam-married/
In case the f.g believes I AM RANTING AND RAVING. this is official confirmation that Danladi is a fraud. ALSO THERE IS NO ONGOING EXCHANGE OF THE GIRLS, MEMO TO F.G YOU ARE GOING TO CONDUCT A BLOODY RESCUE NO EXCHANGE FOR PRISONERS
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/41-boko-haram-members-beheaded-biu/
They are not superhuman beings but dogs, instead of abandoning barracks the NA should engage even more of the populace. AND CUT OFF THEIR ESCAPE ROUTES.
the POPULATION OF BIU SHOULD EXPECT A RETURN VISIT from boko haram before SATURDAY right after jimoh ( Friday).
Some towns are doing a better job fighting BH than the NA
Again we choose to ignore the fundamental core of Boko Harams survivability. Lets face it, Boko Haram is no match for the Nigerian army, they have been pummeled to submission recently but then ask your self how do they somehow manage to bounce back? First they extend an olive branch, then Cameroon pays $500,000 in ransome, when this happened i knew the ”cease fire” proposal was a decoy, a ploy for time, but we bought t hook line and singer. With the help of Chad they have managed to maximise time to rearm and re strategize. Chad aint brokering shit. I have said it before and i will say it again. Since our neighbors do not want a peaceful region lets create mayhem. A two front military offensive should be mounted on Cameroon and Chad. The 82nd Brigade and the associated armoured cavalry number nearly two times the entire Cameroonian armed forces. From my own research there is nothing in their arsenal tp stop a 30,000 man assault on Southern Cameroon to create a buffer zone against Boko Haram. Airborne paratroopers can be inserted to take key infrastructural targets like electricity, ports etc. A military offensive of this scale will make the Chadians want to reconsider the destabilizing route they are taking under orders from their puppet master France. Our Helicopter gunships will do better against Chadian targets and formations than against Boko Haram in an urban environment. What do we have to lose? Its obvious that until we tackle the external backers of Boko Haram there might never be real long lasting peace in the North East.
Please cyber generals, this thread is now too long,Gen Beeg is not on ground to open another thread,so let us move to the Counterinsurgency Procurement thread.
Oga gbash10, where is the thread you mentioned above? If it is available and we all agree to move, fine by me.
Oga Augustine, first thread when you open this blog- FG to acquire 40 attack and transport helicopters.
Seconded.
here we go again.
Where in Gods green Earth is Beeg?!!!!
Slow to speak. Quick to hear. Best maxim in times like this….
http://www.punchng.com/news/mubi-military-deploys-more-fighter-jets/
Another national disgrace our corrupt and incompetent government rubs on our face.
http://www.punchng.com/news/mubi-battle-300-nigerian-soldiers-flee-to-cameroon-again/
Another tactless and worthless comment from an arm chair general.
” deserting Nigerian soldiers would be moved away from the border areas to more secure locations, where they would be disarmed, fed and eventually repatriated to Nigeria.”
Chai !!
The President stuck out his neck to promote some of these generals, this is how they repay him. This is how they repay Nigeria. The CDS should resign to save the image of the institutions he leads. If he does not do that in one week, my contempt for this government and the entire military institution will be complete. Let us wait and see.
“Are James, going all emotional?”……. LOL, you have not started. The joke’s on the president and his defence chiefs.
I have been holding myself back, like an incurable optimist, hoping that these people in Abuja would wake up and do what they are paid so much to do. The current government, tactless and grossly incompetent, is running the country like an out of control Molue I can no longer restrain the anger at the culture of something for nothing, the cack handed approach to almost everything no matter how fool proof it is, the people leading Nigeria at all levels have no idea, bearing, no sense of direction; there is a general lack of purpose and commitment.
This government, is to put it in a nice way, is manned by individuals who have no single functioning brain cell, or they just don’t bother to use them on anything because the leadership have absolute power, at the click of a finger the morons under them, the brainless zealots, and bootlickers they pay to put the country to ruins simply go to work not for the good of Nigerians but to earn the favour of their overlords.
May cowardice be shot by the gun!
Oga Chynedoo. I respect your hustle sir.
Suffice to say that we understand the agony of a bitter individual when we hear one. Suffice to say that we see the irrationality and irresponsibility in your words when they come sputtering. Suffice to say that you have no idea what war means. I make bold to say you are driven by emotions and undue spirituality, come back down to earth my brother, war is a nasty business. The overall aim of DHQ is to win the war, irrespective of what you may think, the overall objective is to be victorious. The battles, day in day out, occur at various locations and it behooves us to understand the larger picture. Yes, you have the right to lash out, complain and angrily vent like you do, but be rest assured your words of hate will not accomplish the end you seek. We need to be mature and more circumspect when it comes to issues involving your country of birth, you need not owe any allegiance but that very allegiance is whats needed at the critical point in time, unless we are so shortsighted as to see the writings on the wall. Nigeria is vulnerable, yes it is, all countries are. Our vulnerabilities, racked on decades ago are been exploited, we see that; anybody who thinks those issues can be corrected once and forever only deludes themselves; this takes painstaking work and dedication, one which if you cannot give best not make it worse with your rabble rousing and generalizations, because you do not have the full picture. Oga, relax, take a breath, think a lot before you put pen to paper, you owe yourself that much. Your intentions might seem innocent, but from you words, you come across a whole lot different, you come across like you know it all, your words reek of hubris and undue bluster. With all due respect sir, coolu tempa
Cameroonian fueled story, same way they said a NA battalion ran away last time, later said they crossed in by mistake, two different stories from same Cameroonian army authorities. Their own Yaounde made soldiers never retreat for once abi? They always win every battle abi? Last time they fought General Victor Malu’s boys in Bakassi skirmish they said Nigerian infantry casualties 80, Cameroonian Gendarme casualties 2.
Na Cameroon story I go dey believe? They pay ransome to Bokos and exchange prisoners. Yet they are always winners in their reports.
I still don’t see why 300 NA infantry cannot retreat from 1,500 Bokos if the army formation is becoming surrounded, they better retreat in an organized manner and maintain force cohesion into safety and await reinforcements. If 300 NA are completely encircled by 1,500 Bokos our forces may be broken up and decimated, retreat is part of military tactics since ancient times. Alexander the Great had his army retreat even in victory to maintain force cohesion, his men were over excited and breaking formation to pursue a massive fleeing enemy army of Persia.
We never know circumstances of the 300 NA soldiers, we are not on the battle field, let the army deal with commanding officers who lead men into cowardly acts, let the army purge itself, we don’t have the information they have of true battlefield situations.
Nigeria is missing the UAV Drone advantage, must be one of the reasons FG was almost begging USA to sell us weapons. Drones will fly over an entire battle area like Mubi and give 24 hour day/night battlefield reports and NA knows what is happening exactly.
There is no excuse for incompetence.
The army have satellites, surveillance planes and forward recon forces and knew BH was arriving days ahead of schedule.
There are 3 battalions in that area. Support group, special forces group as well. Konduga with 300 men fought off a higher number of BH.
They could have called for re-enforcements or airforce straffing runs.
They could as well have organized ambushes and destroyed critical equipment before retreating in an organized fashion.
They did none of these.
And not a “tactical manouevre” into cameroon.- For shame sef…
I am a keen supporter of the military, but every time i hear these “war stories”; it is almost impossible to reason out a positive way to spin the story in NA’s favour….
Kiss BH with this and the virgins will be safe…
Nigerian army desperately needs Drones to observe the battlefield 24 hours round the clock.
A squadron of Drones, MALE UAV owned and operated by Nigerian Army Aviators, flying rotational sorties will save us a lot of hardship-blindness in battle, but Gulma Drone remains a bird yet to fly, failed to fly in time of need….like a French Air Force Dewoitine D.520 came too late for Armee de l’Air.
Israeli drones are available if Nigeria wants to buy, however, it takes time to train military Drone pilots, except we go for civilian grade very short range Day-Night high performance Miniature Drones that cost about $200,000 each with full options like Thermal imaging, and needs only one day to train the pilot including practice hours same day, they were used very effectively in Libyan war by the rebels, very effective, very cheap, very easy to use, all weather capability, day-night capability, almost noiseless at altitude, very silent, but only about 30 minutes flight time.
This Drone is available in Canada through the ‘Back Door’ using civilians, industrial ‘user’, Police Crime/Crowd control ‘user’, Customs-Immigration ‘Border Patrol users’ as procurement fronts.
100 Units of Aeryon Mini-Drone will cost us about $20 million. We can buy piecemeal $1 million for 5 units at a time and test supply chain to see how the fronts network method works, transport them by civilian commercial cargo planes.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/envoy/libyan-rebels-bought-miniature-surveillance-drone-internet-213029799.html
http://www.aeryon.com/products/avs/aeryon-scout.html
NAF…..Is this your own JF-17 Thunder ?
If NAF buys say 60 JF-17 jets,
NAF must demand that Pakistan throw in Q-5 fantan attack jets and Al Zarrar tanks as deal sweetners.
This trip above means nothing. It’s just a jolly but the ‘Google’ squadron on this blog will now go into afterburner mode. There will now be talk of JF 17 deliveries, pilot training, support training being agreed and that by Xmas 50 of the planes will be delivered. Ain’t gonna happen.
No there won’t, we have lost track of the number of presentations that have been attended abroad, the number of investigative papers made, number of mou signed-in this village only the king can make it happen- the chiefs are power less.
The way it works post technical aircraft evaluation is these guys go on these trips, rack up estacodes and come back with just the same information everybody already had during the evaluation… but at least the system forces them to write a report about the aircraft and the advantages and disadvantages and proffer a final recommendation.
This report takes an agonizing six weeks or maybe more ( English language is tricky, every word has three different meanings depending on context, trouble no good).
Any way the finished report forms the basis of another report from the CDS to the Minister which takes another three weeks to prepare. The Minister of defence on the basis of that report then drafts a memo to the Executive Council but being a skilled operator this particular minister engages the MOF first (…and very carefully, …the woman is sound o. No nonsense). The MOF is the final decision maker but first she passes the procurement proposal through her sophisticated financial brain trust who start thinking of financial options that will require not paying for the aircraft in her term in office as MOF. Why the woman prefers long term loans to buy everything is still a mystery, anyway – exim, defence treaties funding clauses, low interest bank loans are some of the options they will examine,..another 10weeks.
Finally when Boko Haram surrounds Yola, the press carry bold headlines, words are thrown around in public about the president starting with the letter C. The man who is more capable than most people realise, summons a meeting, throws a tantrum, smashes his bowler hat on the table and the next week things start to happen, cash backed procurement contract materializes mysteriously..gbagam. Six JF 17 come in a crate and are assembled quickly. Nigerian pilots who have been on training man the jets and reverse the entire war. This is our peculiar mess in Nigeria.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/insurgency-military-steps-bombardment/
The first concrete signs that the ceasefire is dead from the NA side of viewing.
The first concrete evidence of what happened in Mubi….
http://www.punchng.com/news/mubi-battle-army-arrests-six-senior-officers-for-fleeing/
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NAF seems to be the ‘last man standing’ at Mubi…
http://www.punchng.com/news/mubi-military-deploys-more-fighter-jets/
Nuclear power deal ? Nigeria + Iran ?
Calling the USA’s bluff now with Iran’s nuclear offer, we should also return to the North Korean ballistic missile technology transfer offer that was cancelled because USA said no in 2004, same way Iran’s first nuclear offer was stopped in 2008.
http://www.nigerianeye.com/2014/10/iran-offers-nuclear-technology-to.html
Now same USA refuses to sell weapons to Nigeria at war 2014, let me see them tell us not to buy nuclear and ballistic missile technology from Iran and North Korea…..let Yankee open that his mouth and say it, I want to hear….Na prayer mountain on Ibadan expressway naijas go forward him full name….
Na jeje we dey move, kadan kadan ne gaskiya, from Electro to Nuke, to Ballist Missi
Nuclear warhead + ICBM = World Power = Nigeria 2020.
@General Augustine. A nuclear capable Nigeria was my wet dream while younger, BUT it will be my worst nightmare now with the current crop of idiots persecuting the war against BH.
I hate to imagine the consequences when the ogas at the top decide to gift BH nuke warheads or radioactive materials. If ”our” commanders can’t spike guns or blow up supplies before retreating, I doubt they would do anything about nukes or rockets that might injure them when exploding.
Oga Eugene4eveR. I respect your hustle sir.
The same “crop of idiots” fighting and dying so you can remain free? It never seizes to amaze me how humans supposedly with full functioning brains can utter such gibberish. Its easy to castigate and demean, its easy to attack with nothing but your mouth, Oga, how about you go pick up a form, join the war, and show us how its done, since you are not an idiot. Please sir, watch your tone, if you have nothing to contribute, keep quite, any constructive criticisms you have can be made known without trying to undermine the very fabric of this nation. Why don’t we grow a pair and lead by example, rather than this unintelligent blob.
Seconded
Nigerian Air Force Destroys 100+ Vehicle Boko Haram Motorized Infantry Column between Dikwa & Gambaru, Borno
http://ad76.com/2014/11/02/nigerian-air-force-destroys-100-vehicle-boko-haram-motorized-infantry-column-between-dikwa-gambaru-borno/
Kudos to NAF. We will castigate the armed forces where they under-perform.
And praise them where they excel…
Warning: Do not look if u don’t have the stomach…
CJTF with decapitated head of boko haram…
http://ad76.com/2014/11/01/photo-taken-after-failed-attempt-by-boko-haram-fighters-to-sack-sabon-gari-damboa-lga-borno/
Are you sure you want to praise the NAF?. We are saying they should buy precision weapon delivery aircraft but they won’t.
http://www.punchng.com/news/army-accuses-air-force-of-bombing-adamawa-checkpoints/
That story looks like disinformation quoting non existent “sources”.
Wasn’t it also “sources” that said in other articles that the Army abandoned the checkpoints?
Funny story about helicopter dropping bombs. Anyway USAF and RAF do friendly fire errors, so NAF remains the current hero for now. NA would have almost lost this whole war without NAF. Even in ECOMOG ops, NA depended on NAF. I begin to wonder how good Nigerian army really is, we always need NAF to defeat enemies that have no air force since 1990, what is our problem? Have we been overrating our army? Same way they could not defeat Biafra until NAF got MiG jets. What will happen if Nigerian army fights against a professional army like that of Ethiopia? How many times will our officers and men run like women from battle? We are not even safe in dis naija sef.
Let me answer your question Augustine. If I remember correctly, I’ve actually stated it before on this very blog: The Nigeria army is overrated. We have paid too much attention to individuals and personalities rather than the army as an organisation. Same goes for the air force. The army is run by the government, and like everything that involves the government, there is and will certainly be mismanagement, lack of strategic thinking, inability to project, forecast and plan adequately plan, general lack of foresight, bigmanism and personal interest. The few gains made have been due to those few who decide to give their all for the nation.
Where senior officers go to prove their loyalty? Its obvious from recent developments that DHQ has decided to start taking serious action against spineless individuals that show remorse for the enemy. We all knew from the very onset that they existed, we all knew that there were bokoarerams sympathizers in the rank and file of the nations defense apparatus. How do you weed out these slimy individuals if there’s no evidence to their cowardice or their disdain for the Nigerian territorial integrity. Logic therefore provides this clear cut avenue for determining the precise moral compass of some of these so called senior officers, because if you cannot hold your ground and fight off an advancing enemy using all that you have unless ordered otherwise, then it only goes to show the level confidence an officer has in his/her men and women, or on the flip side, it goes to show that, he/she would rather sacrifice the lives of average Nigerians than shed the blood of even one bokoareram, therein lies the proof needed by DHQ to tighten the noose, incarcerate and later expel such individuals from the theater of war. So i believe, just as the officers promoted to Abuja for delivering on the battle front, officers will be remanded and incarcerated for failing woefully, some pass, some fail abysmally. I know some of you were wondering why an officer would be promoted to Abuja after dealing such a crushing blow, why not let him continue? well, he passed the test, onward he goes, the test remains to be taken by more of his colleagues, until we fully root out the sympathetic base of the enemy. So brethren, expect more rotations, expect more tests, we have to get a true picture of the capabilities of each and every senior officer, we have to know where they stand, we have to be able to vouch for each and every member, because, better we do it now than after we get more fighting gear, and guess what, its turned over to bokoarerams. Its time to put to practice all those years of theory and classroom lectures. Now we know who is able and who is a deadbeat. #VictoryforNigeria
I am getting really worried about your pro establisment standpoint in everything. Your default mode is that everything is okay and all actors are doing what they should be doing the way they should. Even to extreme childish levels you try to rationalise every mistake and failure. Please remember that institutions like human beings all make mistakes and for the military in particular these are difficult to correct.
The most criticized institution on earth is the Pentagon and it should be. That organization spends >$500B-) a year of US taxpayers money, that money on its own would banish poverty for ever in Africa. So why should the Pentagon not come up for public censure every year?. The latest topic of Pentagon bashing is the F35 skiing strike fighter and the body is ‘gingered’ by all the complaints to solve all the problems with that program and make sure it delivers value.
It does not mean you are being patriotic when you are mindlessly supportive of authority and ‘failing’ institutions. I understand some people have been programmed by education / upbringing to always fall into line whenever the entity involved has a letter headed paper, a website and an organizational structure but believe me everything comes up for judgement including institutions. Maybe only God can claim infallibility.
If we continue to xxck up like we are doing, hordes of Boko Haram may start doing very shocking things and achieving unacceptable victories in the field, let us remember the facility overrun in Mubi is a brigade headquarters and Shekau already is claiming 20 APCs in his or at so why should this be acceptable? .
The operative question is at what stage do you start complaining, is it when they take Adamawa State?
Oga Are James. I respect your hustle.
You have once again muddled up the pristine waters with your overt generalizations, its obvious you have no singular point of disagreement, hence you rationalize your disdain for a clear and well thought out idea by surreptitiously linking that idea with a lavish and insidious motto such as “pro establishment.” Oga, stick to the issue i raised, is it a valid one or not, don’t try to confuse the timid with such lazy arguments, which isn’t the point at hand. My point, in case you refused to peruse my earlier contribution is that the rotation of officers in the theater of war seems to be a logical way to weed out the compromised, once an officer fails and is defeated in an endeavor that’s been clearly shown to winnable by another, that becomes the proof needed to eradicate such individuals. Oga, you are beating about a very dense bush, shine your eye on this matter, and stop the mischievous attitude.
WELL DONE NAF.
I want the arrested soldiers to be made to tell Nigerians why they ran away from Mubi without any fight, like handed over a whole city to Boko Haram as new month of November gift.
Sad news ….
http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-brings-mubi-under-sharia-amputates-10/
Oga you mean like Mubi ? Well if there are more sell outs like in Mubi…
http://www.punchng.com/news/boko-haram-can-overrun-nigeria-says-atiku/
Any body remember ?
some months back, when I asserted that NA was out of it’s depths, or shall I say at it’s breaking point.
I said there was a loss of spatial orientation by NA in the battle space.
It simply means, a loss of situational awareness.
NA didn’t know when BH was coming or going.
A lack of robust patrols, due to frequent deadly ambushes, coupled with the lack of aerial recon assets, essentially left NA “fighting blind”
I had likened the status quo to that in sierra leone 15 years ago.
Where NA was blind to enemy maneuvers, but yet assured the public of their safety.
Anyway, folks didn’t run, and where left at the mercy of the RUF to be butchered.
Here we go again, damn near 20 years later, Nigerian cities are being left at the mercy of BH butchers.
I really wished folks here could be mature enough to leave patriotism and jingoism aside for a while. Long enough for us to save Nigeria 1st.
Our military due to corruption and woeful leadership, has been on the brink of collapse for some time now.
What we have needed all this while, is the infusion of experienced and capable military advisers.
To strengthen what we are doing right, and reorient what is dysfunctional.
Usually, it would be the brits aka colonial big brother that would provide this help,
But remember, Nigeria has claimed to be a “BIG BOY”, and nobody’s lackey since our oil boom days.
So, as a big boy, we must get our act together and engage military advisers/mentors/ trainers from the private sector.
We have done some of the training bit, but NA requires embedded advisors from the HQ to the company level, to reorient things.
Just like the americans are attempting to do for Iraq.
Somewhat like what EO did for Angola, SANS THE COMBAT.
A motivated and well oriented NA will systemically crush BH.
At least you always say the truth.
To answer your previous question, out of the list f names of deserting senior officers we heard about, only a particular had been involved in such a ‘tactical manoeuvre’ before. The other three were names (northern sounding names) in this instance were never before mentioned in association with retreat in the face of inferior forces so it is no more just an just an individual lack for capacity but gradually becoming doctrine in the NA to retreat when any kind of offensive is mounted against army formations.
You have also put your finger on the cause of the problem, lack of situational awareness at the field level. Basic field craft issues, inadequate recce and too much emphasis on static presence to deter the insurgents….maybe some checkpoint mentality.
An army that is blind is dead even if they were given all the weapons they needed.
Oga @doziex no amount of EO or their kind will solve anything in the North East without political will. What we lack is politicial will government is simply not serious at ending this insurgency. You only need look at their body langauage to see.
Have u noticed all the talk at the moment from presidency is about tambuwal and PDP registrations.
At least, a good PMC like STTEP can stop this phenomena of our soldiers running away from BH.
They can easily get to the bottom of such issues.
Why stand and fight in Konduga, but flee in Mubi ?
I see the defects in NA as soldiering issues, NOT political ones.
Is it really surprising? Its just a small advancement from converting top intelligence gathering aircraft to VIP transports.
Oga jimmy, ALL your constructive criticisms are noted on this blog and may it echo up the ladder to the topmost ears and powers that govern Nigeria. Amen o !
AMEN i will put out my constructive criticisim #7 tomorrow sometimes I get very frustrated AND OGA DOZIEX beating me like a drum sometimes irritates me but I am A BIG BOY i can take it LOL !
Oga jimmy, Nigeria is frustrating every patriotic and honest Nigerian apart from those Nigerians at the top of the power ladder, and those sucking the milk and honey of Nigeria’s wealth. Surely the people getting government license to import petrol, diesel and kerosine worth billions of dollars in the past 10 years do not feel frustrated by Nigeria.
Anyway, as my frustration grows, I swallow my pride, Nigeria can go beg Algeria for 40 units of T-90 tanks with mercenary crew, or go beg India for the same. We can also beg Ethiopia for modernized T-72 tanks since all those countries are wiser than we are to have prepared for war while we sleep in Abuja like a truly 54 year old country that never learns form it’s own major mistakes.
Please don’t beg South Africa for anything so that I will not go drink shaving powder.
Let the humiliation remain with our friends only.
Oga Augustine e never reach like that,ehe where is beegy?
This article in foreign press,
“The United States and other foreign powers have offered assistance, but finding the girls remains a formidable task. “It’s a big, big challenge,” says Stephen Schwartz, the director of Nigeria policy and operations at the State Department. “If it were up to the United States, we would have difficulty trying to rescue that number of girls over that big an area. It’s a really high-stakes kind of effort. I give the Nigerians a lot of credit for having the forbearance to not try anything premature or reckless.” (The military declined repeated requests for comment.)”
This was in an interview in one of the foreign press. Little bright thought
The United States and other foreign powers have offered assistance, but finding the girls remains a formidable task. “It’s a big, big challenge,” says Stephen Schwartz, the director of Nigeria policy and operations at the State Department. “If it were up to the United States, we would have difficulty trying to rescue that number of girls over that big an area. It’s a really high-stakes kind of effort. I give the Nigerians a lot of credit for having the forbearance to not try anything premature or reckless.”
can you show me a link of where you read this?
http://www.trackingterrorism.org/taxonomy/term/9/index.php?ip_login_no_cache=f7f6b60fa81d0e3577b3a309d197e66d
Men Nigeria is chop money, who get your time for 9ja. How much we go collect for the T72 or T90. When Una go wake sef. Raise or become IDP
Na una know o
oga martin
Please can your source at least disclose what type of main battle tank ( M.B.T.) was recently purchased is it a T72 OR AN OPLOT?
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-moves-to-attack-sambisa/194116/
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/boko-haram-takes-chibok-gwoza-military-moves-to-attack-sambisa/194119/
Has anyone noticed the short time between the release of hostages in Cameroun and the resumption of hostilities in Nigeria? I guess they just needed time to re-arm and we gave it to them.
Obviously the fund was used to rearm however, Cameroon doesn’t owe us anything and the safety of their territory and citizens come first. We need to get our acts together and point to where blames are from. Which country is more interested in buying Vip airframes when it is at world or buys APCs and tanks in piecemeal. Then give a stupid excuse that the US won’t sell to us as if they are obliged to. Russia asked for a wishlist for arms have we furthered the talk with them cos if we have deliveries would started arriving by now like it happened in Iraq
I won’t blame the CDS for battlefield failures, he is not a field commanding officer. I don’t have any idea about his house guard of SF. I am more worried about the CDS making public comments and promises that never come to fulfillment. His military reputation is an issue.
It’s clear Nigerian army is internally weak and internally divided by traitors at all levels. It’s the same factor that killed the world super power Roman empire politically and militarily, Nigeria should better end this war quickly and WIPE OUT THE ENTIRE BOKO HARAM ORGANIZATION, leave no single man standing among them, turn a blind eye to what the outside world says about it.
I know this is a rumour blog but are we all really blind to the fact that mubi was deliberately left to fall.
Initial BH attackers weren’t more than 100 and the NAF ATR overhead relayed this to the army yet a whole battalion of the NA packed up and ran leaving APC’s and RPG’s to rekit BH. Air Force has been shelling BH inflicting serious damage yet NA are yet to move in.
Question you should be asking is who stands to gain from all this and where exactly is the NA?
Now you see why I said a nuclear armed Nigeria will be OUR worst nightmare. The NA just helped BH re-stock the APC’s, heavy weapons and cadre that they lost at Kondunga. Thank GOD that the Atlantic ocean is so far away, otherwise BH was have gotten a couple of OPV’s and NNS Thunder.
Oga mi, Nigerian can hold nuclear weapons safe if we want to. They are underground concrete bunker storage weapons, not Mubi barracks armoury kind of store. Pakistani Islamic terrorists attacked JF-17 Thunder factory or base but were repelled from destroying the jets. Nobody has tried to storm Paki nuclear armoury, they cannot just get there.
@Oje was writing a lot of ‘things’ here that annoyed people, he should have emphasized Nigerian warhead ICBMs as future deterrent to France standing behind Cameroon/Chad instead of toy F-7 jet and some anti-piracy OPV.
If Boko Haram cannot enter inside Aso Rock villa, they cannot enter a world standard nuclear warhead storage.
Oga Augustine, you hit the mace right on the head. The Paki terrorists attacked a JF – 17 base and were repelled because the guards fought back with most likely reinforcements and air power. In our case abi na cases, the bases and weapons were gifted to boko asss-rams without much, if any resistance.
All reports of over-running our bases and looting armouries all follow the same pattern of sabotage and sell-outs. There is nothing stopping our high level traitors from gifting BH the plans to the bunkers and the perfect time to attack (when ALL the guards are in the mess awaiting an ultra important briefing). From a NE combat vet MoPol source, thats how Gworza was captured. Somebody ordered ALL the armed patrols back to base and collected their guns for safe keeping.
Gentlemen, someone forwarded this news site to me. It has an analysis of FG vs BH tango.
http://www.gaskiya.net/
BH is the one doing the so called big push
Militant Islamist sect, Boko Haram, has renamed Mubi as ‘Madinatul Islam,” meaning the city of Islam.
http://www.punchng.com/news/bharam-renames-mubi-rejects-polls-in-adamawa/
Food items, money and weapons seized by Boko Haram in Adamawa State’s second largest city, Mubi, will be enough to sustain the activities of the insurgents for a year, a Federal Government-Boko Haram go-between, Ahmad Salkida, has said.
http://www.punchng.com/i-punch/seized-weapons-will-last-bharam-for-12-months-negotiator/
Don’t believe that
We cannot prove him right or wrong, but many other sources say large cache of light and heavy weapons with ammunition stores were ‘DONATED’ as new month gift by Nigerian army to Boko Haram in Mubi.
New world record.
Mosul II
Now I confirm Lt. Gen A. O. Ihejirika fought for his fatherland with his heart. It is so shameful. Again, we need to do some serious shopping for the military, its bout time we would simply mobilise long range artillery and missile system to breach our francophone borders while our superior fighter jets and drones would deliberately breach their airspaces whenever they do shaddy deals with bokoarerams while waiting for France to cough. Until our government realises that defeating bokoareram is as important as having an unparalleled military might to deter unfriendly puppet neighbours.
Oga Donian007 I hope they hear your voice inside Senate and Aso Rock o !
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menatti says:
November 4, 2014 at 8:57 am
I know this is a rumour blog but are we all really blind to the fact that mubi was deliberately left to fall.
REPLY.
Oga, it is not new to us, I said it here few days ago and repeated it again today, Mubi was freely and happily donated by Nigerian army officers to Boko Haram. If it was betrayal, those officers should be tried, published, and if the law says execution, they should be shot. If it is military strategy with hidden plans, then we will not know yet.
It’s time for NA to ask all soldiers who do not want to die to quit army now and be dismissed without benefit, if only 50,000 soldiers are willing to die according to their oath, let us be satisfied with a 50,000 man army and go fight this war and win.
We Nigerians are at fault for all our problems, last time I said new recruits are brave to sign death warrant, many bloggers here descended on me and said I could be arrested and tried in court for discouraging new army recruits because I scare soldiers by saying army oath of sacrificing their lives is a reality in war time.
So many Nigerians believe we should hide the fact of death in war from our newly recruited soldiers so that the boys will think they got a new job with a bank or telecoms company.
Many Nigerians blaming government, if we put them there they will do worse. Their is something very wrong with the way most Nigerians think. That is why we change leadership and still get about the same result since 1960.
The news coming through in the last one week are one setback after another. What is depressing is the complete lack of urgency in the body language and conducts of the political leadership and the military top brasses. They seem entirely oblivious to the urgent danger facing Nigeria. From the vibes giving off by BH they are set to go all the way to Abuja, and then down South-wards; their outriders/foot soldiers may already be in Abuja awaiting instructions. And frightening as this is, all the elites seemed preoccupied with are irritating silliness: “my convoy is not long enough” or “you redeployed my Police escorts”. Guys wake up!!! There is danger at the gate. War is upon us. Start acting and thinking like it, at least to keep your dinky over-inflated ostentatious way of life. If there is no country, there would be no politics, no economy, no nothing!!!! The National Assembly should immediately reconvene, summon the top military brasses to publicly tell Nigerians what is going on right now with this war. Enough of this secret secret black cloud.
Hehe he Oga Akin oges,
I told you all 2 months ago, that BH would descend on Abuja in 6 months tops,
That is after they 1st rout the 7th division from the tri states of the north east.
I can’t explain the lackadaisical body language of our leadership. I saw this emergency 2 years ago, and have blogged about the same since.
Looks like BH ran amok in Gombe, took over the cement factory and limestone mine quarry and loaded about six hilux vehicles of dynamite. They even had the time to preach ‘Islam’ to the locals. For every civilian victim of urban bombing that is to follow we should hold the FG responsible.
This administration cannot guard every establishment.However for every day that passes ans the f.g doea not rakw proactive steps they truly have blood on their hands. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
An infusion of expert and experienced military operators into the ranks and operational planning of the Nigerian army would do the following:
(1) The advisers will quickly diagnose the problems the soldiers are having, which the soldiers know already, Then offer a clear, workable solution to these problems.
For instance, what does a soldier manning a check point do, if 4 technicals, mounted with 23 caliber AA , and several truck and motorbike insurgents approach his check point.
Answers: A) Leave your post and munitions and run.
B) Maintain your position, be disciplined, wait as the superior firepower approaches you then pick them. ( Direct quote from the jumping general).
C) specific tactics, procedures and weapons have to be introduced, and rehearsed for this and other probable scenarios.
I am sure that the rank and file of NA wouldn’t mind an ex US marine or a ranger veteran of fire fights in Fallujah, helmand and other re known theaters, advise and mentor them through the abovementioned scenario.
This blog has unfortunately underestimated the importance of military advisers.
Their experience and expertise of the subject matter is all that matters, NOT their nationality or colour.
Military history is replete with armies being assisted by advisers from allied countries.
And in more recent history we have PMC’s such as MPRI successfully advising the Croatian army in the retaking of the Krajina region.
EO advising and assisting the Angolan army in the eventual defeat of unita.
EO advising and assisting the sierra Leonean army alongside the Nigerian forces assistance group (NIFAG) to contain the BH like RUF.
There is a qualitative difference between the counterinsurgency ops of the initial Ethiopian soldiers, and the subsequent Ugandan soldiers, after they had been mentored by a Washington based PMC.
The Ugandans were 10 times as effective as their Ethiopian predecessors.
(2) The expertise of the PMCs would be proven or disproven right there on the battle field, before the eyes of the NA rank and file.
This would engender confidence into the ranks of NA.
Their confidence would grow as the embedded advisor/ mentor relationship progresses.
@Gen Doziex. Where do you actually think the PMC’s will eventually end up: training our front line troops or training the escorts of the ogas at the top?.At the rate we are going, I wont be surprised to start seeing Helicopter gunships in the convoys of our leaders, both govt and opposition.
possibly.
But we gat to try something else. what we have been doing is NOT working.
U mentioned fallujah, hoped u considered the fire power at the disposal of the veterans. Someone said soon there will be helicopter gunship in convoys of Nigerian VIP. hmm there are already gunships in convoys. Not until some is done about the political and military leadership things won’t change. Why do u want a soldier in the front to be motivated and wish to die for his nation when he sees recently retired general with the war chest to campaign for gubernatorial elections (guess u know the financial requirement of contesting for governorship in Nigeria) while he that you want to die at the front is in penury. Please give the troops a reason to want to die for the nation ex ND militant are more taken care of than nigeria military personnel. The edge BH has over Nigerian military is their morale state. Guys please stop comparing Nigerian military to other world armies because they don’t have the facilities and welfare systems of those armies
You are right about unfairness and injustice in the na.
But they are professional soldiers not conscripts.
While they definitely need more help, music was a reasonably well resourced garrison.
Na has to the most out of what it has 1st.
It’s men, it’s materials, and and any opportunities to add value thru training and mentor ship.
NA should be performing way better with the existing weapons acquired till date.
Mubi. Was reasonably well resourced.
Also, Oga saleh, when Executive Outcomes arrived in Angola.
They adapted existing Angolan and ex Cuban platforms for their own use.
How come they achieved wildly successful outcomes, and the Angolans and the Cubans couldn’t with the same weapons ?
The Answer is qualitatively superior soldiering( Techniques, Tactics and Procedures)
Quality advisers can do the same for Nigeria..
In sierra leone, NA and the sierra Leonean army engaged RUF, with out intel and recon before EO came.
Just like NA is doing now 20 years later.
EO came in with different but effective tactics of Finding, Fixing the closing with the enemy.
The equipment does matter I agree, but ecomog forces would give anything to have what NA is ” Donnating to the enemy” on a regular basis.
Actually less the helicopter gunship Ecomog was better armed than the present state of the NA, the bulk of equipment and platform still being use were initially used in Ecomog ops. Any platform u see being acquired now are still being done in piecemeal. For example the 155mm arty piece reported captured saw combat in Ecomog and bakassi ops, the shilka were also used as front line platform for NA advance thru rubber plantations in liberia and Sierra Leone. Another point when u guys make reference to Ecomog ops is that neither RUF,NPLF nor INPLF had the sophistication or arms of BH not to talk of their indifference altitude to death. The rebels then were scared of dying
Oga Saleh, I don’t recall MBTs being deployed in the ecomog wars.
They made due with APCs and some scorpion IFVs.
The T-55 MBT only got shipped from Nigeria to clear the rebels from the east end of freetown circa jan. 1999.
I only saw NA deploy the portable 105 mm arty piece in both LBR and SLR.
NOT the 155 mm palmaria nor Bofor guns.
NA today is better also in terms of kitting.
Todays NA has way more body armor coverage amongst it’s troops.
As for the level of opposition, remember that Charles taylors NPFL had active Burkinabe troops/mercs amongst them.
In operation octopus, a BM-21 multi barreled rocket launcher was used against NA defenders of Monrovia.
NAF Alpha jets eventually destroyed it.
In SLR, NA faced a combination of the coup plotting, johnny Koroma led SLR army ( now full retrained and rearmed by EO, and the Charles taylor and Blaise Compaore reinforced RUF.
However, I agree with you, with the capture of NA heavy weapons, the influx of experienced Chadian mercenaries, the exposure to gaddafi’s armory and other regional Takfiris, BH IS MORPHING INTO AN UNCONTOLLABLE ISIS LIKE MONSTER THAT WILL CONSUME ENTIRE NATIONS IN IT’S WAKE.
This is why the US Snub of NA and the hapless GEJ administration is unfortunately short sighted.
Oga Doziex,
I can diagnose the problems of the Nigerian Army from my chair.
The problem of the Nigerian leadership and thus the Army is that deep down they do not care or believe in their country or people. The problem in Nigeria is we think that every thing is magic. If we fail it’s because of witches, if we succeed its because we fasted. We say the Americans wont sell us weapons, but not one person has said what these weapons were and whether they ould have stopped an entire Brigade from running from a few hundred Boko Harams in pick up trucks
You do not need to pay foreigners to tell you how to put nappy on your child.
If 4 technical mounted with AA guns approach your checkpoint, you are most likely fucked.
However if beforehand you had identified that the enemy uses vehicle mounted weapons, with an effective range of 8km however it is a direct fire weapon so you will plot an 8km radius around your position on the map and identify which locations have line of sight to your position from which the vehicle can fire, you also identify the routes leading to those points and plot them as mortar/artillery defensive fire points. You place obstacles covered by fire on the approach road so any vehicle approaching will be halted and then subject to fire.
You institute a patrol timetable that ensures that at all times there is a combat element on patrol outside the base, thus ensuring the enemy can be flanked or harassed before they get there.
Yon use command detonated mines to ensure the enemy does not get to close, a mixture of machine guns, RPGs, rifles amongst your squad. Have an immediate counter attack procedure. If your position is over run, you withdraw break contact and then reorganise and immediately counter attack. The point immediately after an attack is when an enemy is most vulnerable, they are low on ammo, trying to locate themselves and their casualties and find their way around. The Germans used this tactic successfully in WW2.
We do not need PMCs.
We need leadership. We need an intelligent thought out doctrines.
Can any one tell me what is the standard size of a Boko Haram unit, how do they resupply? What times do they attack, how do they refuel, what are their patrol patterns or formations?
The South Africans during the Bush war would send out evaluators who would compare all the data from contacts and captured enemy allowing them to understand and predict the enemy. Is it not common sense to know what time your enemy normally attacks?
If you need a PMC to tell you that then you are not yet serious.
PMC is just another magic bullet like ‘US wont sell us weapons’ etc that we use to pretend we do not have deep structural problems.
Oga Eeben himself told the story of how he trained a jungle SF unit that was then dragged off to fight in Mogadishu. That is the reality of a leadership that is not intimately invested in its strategy and doctrine.
And although it pains me to say the Ugandans are years ahead of us in terms of their military development.
Lets start looking at this problem holistically and from source
Chief , I have told you before that your services are badly needed by our front line troops.
Superb training plus experience is the only thing those troops who face death every day respect.
But if we can’t get you to volunteer or sell your services, and competent commanders remain in short supply, what are we to do ?
We have to import the expertise and the experience we lack, embed them amongst our troops.
If you say military advisers don’t work, why has the British army sent out IMET. And such teams for decades ?
Why has the US done likewise ?
What are US advisers doing currently with the crumbling Iraqi army.
STTEP. Was employed by the UPDF. In their Ugandan, DRC. And Sudanese ops.
When they went to Mogadishu, the Washington based PMC. Took over the urban warfare advice and mentor ship job.
The Americans recently sent 100 plus green berets to advise the UPDF units in search of Joseph kony.
No wonder they are performing excellently in amisom. And elsewhere.
No wonder they are increasingly the best trained troops in Africa.
Museveni. Ain’t too proud to accept training from any body.
He even trains his officer corps. In Kenya and Tanzania, his regional rivals.
I have been advised by oga xnur44 to stand down on this matter.oga xnur,spirit, solorex and myself were among the first set of members. I am compelled to stand down. This is what you believe .I do not for now I will hold my peace. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Oga. Jimmy, I am not sure if your comment was meant for me.
If so, you and the other founding members shouldn’t hold your peace for too long.
The next time you look up, shekau. Might be on the outskirts of lagos.
There you go again. Oga Doziex you expose the weakness of your argument by oversimplifying problems to make it appear that one problem lack of coherent leadership will be defined by one solution (pmc) . I shall remain restrained for now. Based on boko harams recent actions, I expect them to strike thursday/ Friday (jimoh).) Let us wait and see. Sideways oga peccavi depending on who is in power a couple of months if it a different administration expect a sri lankan style offensive.From this current administration do not expect anything except disappointment,more lives lost,more. Useless towns captured and placed under boko haram’s grip. T-Mobile. America’s First Nationwide 4G Network
Oga jimmy, I don’t see the oversimplification here.
No body in the south is ready for that eventuality.
How long does it take to drive from kaduna to lagos ?
Whether folks agree with my analysis and recommended solutions or not, practical solutions have to be proffered.
despondency is not an option we have now.
THERE IS NO ALARMING SCENARIO CONCERNING NIGERIA THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED OVERKILL.
Let’s err on the side of abundance of caution, so if the worst happens, we will be found ready.
Chief Jimmy , I am not being simplistic, most of my so called simplistic predictions have come to pass already.
My proposal for embedding PMCs. With NA forces, is a workable solution to a very present problem.
I am not just being despondent like the rest of the blog.
Or resigned to wishful thinking
The CIC. Is atrocious.
Badeh. And Co. Need to be thrown out. All thru
But they are the authorities we have for now
If they cannot organize and equip Nigeria to defend it’s self, they can at least pay for those that will. Or watch the country burn in 2015.
My ogas greetings.
I propose to win this war quickly and effectively we would need the folowing:
1) 4 battalions of technicals. While the ‘technical’ may be seen as unconventional and not worthy of deployment, it has proven to be very effective and highly maneuverable, allowing for lightning strikes and easily able to take the fight to the enemy with the ability to withdraw and regroup.
2) 2 squadrons of mi 35 Hinds to maintain complete dominance of the theatre allowing for quick deployment and clearing the path for the Technicals to come in and cut down the enemy. Fitted with rockets these hinds can launch deep penetrating attack from a safe distance with little collateral.
3) The Russian Katyushas. Outdated but very effective and cheep to acquire. These should be widely deployed across the entire length of the theatre to provide coverage for both the Hinds and the Technicals.
Once a town has been cleared and retaken, send in the regular forces to garrison and take control while these 3 units move on to the next target.
It’s hard to trust Nigerians, but I want to guess the military is building up for final offensive in Sri Lanka model, same way Boko Haram is building up military might to become almost like Iraqi ISIS.
The final offensive in Sri Lanka model will crush Boko Haram in a normal situation, however, Nigeria is an abnormal country with abnormally thinking and acting people, Nigerians are very unpredictable even when all factors are constant, Nigerians remain variables.
We can turn Mubi defeat into a resounding victory.
Oga Peccavi, would you say Nigerian army Colonels and Generals trained in Sandhurst Academy do not know these basic battlefield tactics? What is your opinion of a Nigerian army officer? I really don’t understand our commanders anymore. What do you think is wrong with our officers on the battlefield?
I repeat, let Nigerian military turn Mubi defeat and disgrace into another sweet Damboa victory :
1 ) Allow Boko Haram to hold Mubi, give them some weeks to fortify and deploy their best men and equipment, as well as leaders into Mubi, make them feel they own Mubi.
2 ) Plan Damboa and Konduga formula, get the best tested and proven field commanders and most loyal men, together with NAF Mi-35 hinds.
3 ) Block all escape routes out of Mubi.
4 ) Launch a massive 24 hour non-stop night-day NAF bombardment of Boko positions in Mubi, aided by initial recce intelligence reports from SF and SSS/CID spies.
5 ) Finally, Launch a massive army assault on Mubi, Vickers tanks, Shilkas, Norinco AGLs mounted on Landcruisers playing a major role.
6 ) Kill everything called Boko Haram inside Mubi, allow no escapes.
The backbone of Boko Haram will be broken for the rest of this year, and our final offensive better come by Christmas.
It is interesting to note that one single T-84 Oplot-M main battle tank will drive through Mubi town and kill everything called Boko Haram man or machine as long as it’s fuel and ammunition will last, and the entire force of Boko Haram will not be able to do any damage to the Oplot-M.
If you don’t have very many capable men for war, try have capable modern equipment that you can use well with the few capable men carefully selected. Simple.
Oga Augustine, you are asking me if thee Na doesn’t know these fairly basic things?
Possibly you are asking the wrong person but I suspect the evidence from Gwoza, Mubi, Damboa etc is not encouraging.
Something is fundamentally wrong with our forces and we can continue deceiving ourselves or sound the alarm now.
Thee Sri Lankan model does not apply here in anyway shape or form. The Sri Lankan used a ceasefire to build their forces however they agreed that ceasefire with the recognised LTTE leader not some random person from nowhere and got international monitors to guarantee the ceasefire.
At the same time they analysed the conflict and began building p their forces with emphasis on training and equipment and leadership.
Please let me know when and where you see any of the above here.
Oga Doziex, do you honestly think anyone as outspoken as myself would be allowed to work in current Nigeria?? My contact details are there for anyone who wishes to talk but I am no more qualified than most Nigerian officers I speak to. They just need to get skilled, qualified officers to the top
If by Dec 31st Boko Haram still holds territory or have ceased more territory I advice everyone here to go get a Passport. It’s time to open our eyes and drop our patriotic sentiments on the floor and use common sense. This is not a war, this is looking more and more like an ochestrated Chessential game, it’s too smooth and tidy to be anything but.
http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/news/national-news/185751-why-boko-haram-insurgents-thrive-by-dasuki-ayu
So reading this report, my conclusions on the two submissions and personae:
Dasuki = lacking clarity or just being disingenuous
Ayu = good understanding of contemporary issues…well articulated thesis.
“J222” ? Na wah Oooo… Anyhow, we should have about 7 Charlies airworthy at the present time:
Fight against Terrorism Gets Boost as Air Force Resuscitates C-130 Aircraft
07 Nov 2014
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A Charlie-130 (C-130) aircraft
Chiemelie Ezeobi
With the toppling of some cities in the North-east region by the Boko Haram sect, the Nigeria Air Force (NAF) on Thursday resuscitated a Charlie-130 (C-130) aircraft to boost the fight against terrorism and bring it an end.
THISDAY gathered that aside from lifting troops in the war against terrorism, the C-130, which is an airlift support aircraft, would be put to good use during the forthcoming elections particularly in lifting electioneering materials to different states.
The aircraft was rehabilitated and re-commissioned after the C-check inspection work by NAF personnel under the leadership of the Chief of Aircraft Engineering, Air Vice Marshal Ibrahim Umar, in conjunction with a foreign partner, Sabena Technics of Italy.
The Chief of Air Staff (CAS), Air Marshal Adesola Amosun, who inaugurated the resuscitated aircraft said the C-130 is a force multiplier, which would assist in moving men and materials to the theatre of war operations.
Amosun, who was represented by the Air Officer Commanding (AOC) NAF Logistics Command, Air Vice Marshal Olutayo Oguntoyinbo, added that the addition to the NAF fleet would go a long way to assist the force in carrying out its responsibilities.
He said: “The C-130 is a force multiplier because it will do the work of a thousand men. It is a logistics backup aircraft, which will assist in moving men and materials to the theatre of operations.
“Its resuscitation is timely even as we prosecute the ongoing war against insurgency. It would be deployed to join other fleets of the NAF, which currently take off from different points from where we launch to the warfront.
“Already, the J222, Super Poma and so many other airplanes are undergoing maintenance and would be deployed as soon as its done.
“Also, the addition had helped us become ready for next year’s election as we will convey electioneering materials and men for the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC).”
He said with the maintenance done in-country, capital flight was averted and millions of dollars saved, thereby boosting the use of local resources and creating personnel efficiency and skill development.
Afterwards, Oguntoyinbo, while decorating 20 Non-Commissioned Officers (NCOs) and ratings, reminded them that they have all sworn an oath to protect the territorial integrity of the nation both internally and externally.
He said: “The war on insurgency is a challenge facing us. Today we see what is happening in our rank and file and they shack their responsibility and it in turn affects our output.
“You have to rethink about things you do which do not only affect you but goes on to affect others. Even in peace, prepare for war. Security challenges are all over the place. Stand up to your responsibilities.
“Don’t let us regret promoting you. Don’t let it be said of you that you are cowards running away from the enemy. Stand up to what you were called to. Stand like an airman.
“The CAS is doing all he can to boost morale by ensuring your welfare, so you must do your part. We swore an oath to defend our fatherland come rain, come shine, in death or in life. As airmen, we will do our best. May God help you all to fulfill your calling.”
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Things look grim up North and the CAS is concerned about air-lifting election materials as if that is the function of the air force.
These guys are in an advanced stage of self induced hypnosis and deception.
I still say it again Boko Haram is very lucky (for a season). There is an ancient prayer about being blessed with weak and confused enemies, I think this prayer is working for them. So i say good luck to Boko Haram till a new government comes in May, 2015.
That tells the story of their state of mind. These guys exist in a world far removed from what we earthlings are familiar with. They are either not jammed up or can’t-be-asked about the frightening fate looking us in the face like a live mamba. For them it is business as usual. I can’t get it. Something is terribly wrong. There’s no haste, no urgency, the mood is not a swicthed-on mood, same lethargic languid routine. We are in trouble.
Oga rka. I respect your hustle sir.
Yes sir, transportation of election materials has been a major task for the Nigerian Air force, ever since a credible INEC and democracy became a norm, mind you, not just the Air Force, but all other security agencies, including the Navy and the Army. Nothing will stop elections taking place in all parts of Nigeria. bokoarerams will bomb, yes they will murder, but those efforts will be futile. Nigerians will not be cowered into submission, rather, we have the opportunity to express our feelings, whether disdain or appreciation to which ever political party we so choose, this is the essence of democracy, this cannot be over emphasized.
Oga Mcshegz. I honestly respect your hustle. I know it is the norm in Nigeria for the Armed Forces to assist with transportation of election materials, it is just the timing of his statement especially with the dire security situation up North.
It all boils down to my normal gripe of Nigerians not being kept informed of what is going on as it should be in a democracy we so espouse.
@mcshegz
Na wa… is all I can say for this official line. Your reaction appears to be coming straight from the desk of the assistant deputy vice SSA to Minister of Information.
Oga rka and Are James. I respect your hustle sirs.
HAhahahahah,Oga Are James, you funny sha… lololoz, I’ve never been interested in a political appointment sir, hehe. I tip my hat to those who dare to venture into that space, to serve the public, It is indeed a brutal job as any. More importantly Oga rka, what is most needed at this juncture is initiative, not only on the part of the local, state and federal authorities, MDA,s and security forces alike, but we need greater impetus from the public, from individuals like you and i, we need to come up with solutions to all that ails us, if not for pride, and dignity, how about profit? Nigerians, shine your eye, do not let this ongoing spat of terror go to waste, harness the energy, harness the emotions, make it pay. To those that think i’m advocating cashing in on the misery of fellow Nigerians, well, that’s exactly what i mean, if you don’t make good use of the opportunity, well, someone else will, misery lies in the same state as opportunity. Electrical engineers, physicists and materials engineers, doctors, psychologists, therapists, architects, builders, biologists, and the works, shun fear, shun the attitude of constant criticism, lets see what you’re made of, lets see alternatives, build it, develop, manufacture concrete solutions, Nigeria will be better for it, nobody will doubt your wit afterwards, at last, we know you are capable, because talk is cheap, actions speaks louder.
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/11/fear-boko-haramll-overrun-adamawa-gov-ngilari/
THIS IS PART OF THE PROBLEM : The lack of political will to do anything is what is the main cancer in this conflict, and wow some boko harams have decided to rename Gwoza surprise surprise meanwhile it has been 7 days since mubi was sacked the goc is still preparing, the coas is still preparing, this is called lack of offensive preparation, this is where we are now the point i predicted we will be.
Constructive criticism #4
The F.G. NEEDS AS A MATTER OF URGENCY NEEDS TO COME UP WITH A DETAILED PLAN TO RETAKE MUBI AND IT SHOULD NOT TAKE THIS LONG, THE LONGER IT TAKES IT SHOWS THE INCAPABILITY OF THE F.G directly not to be able to assert it ‘s no.1 duty to protect the citizens of Nigeria.
At least anti-terror Police seem to have been galvanized.
http://leadership.ng/news/389560/riot-police-lead-nigerian-troops-liberate-badehs-hometown
Thank you for some encouraging news meanwhile the HEAVILY ARMED , WELL FED, WELFARE HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF Nigerian Army is still 80 miles away. We continue to wait on the GOC and the COAS.
Oga Jimmy, I am genuinely baffled by the NA. There are all sorts of stories doing the rounds, but DHQ can’t come out and give a straight update re what is going on whether positive or negative. I am not asking for top secret plans (if there are any), just that they are deploying and giving updates after the fact.
Gentlemen,
I think this Baffling lack of execution is revealing the one thing we want to avoid on this blog.
we ask why aren’t they doing this ? why aren’t they doing that ?
The answer may be a simple one. THEY CANT.
They lack the operational competence to execute.
THIS BATTLE FIELD COMPETENCY, is what needs to be found WITHIN OR WITHOUT NA TO RIGHT THIS SHIP.
This is not the time for “posing” generals and credentials.
A military commander or adviser that knows his way around a battle space would use the existing men and equipment, police, NA or CJTF, and turn the situation around within days.
IF NA has such officers in it’s rank, now is the time to step up.
Where the hell is General Yarki Saki Bello ? retired or not, bring him back.
Where is brig. general Tanko ? and other young combatants from op death before dishonor in freetown.
Where is LT. col . Enobong. Once deployed in port harcout, when MEND tried to take over the city ?
If still alive and in service, he is probably a brig. general by now,
Oga jumping general, put your ecomog combat vets in leading positions on this front.
ALSO SIR CONSULT WITH PRIVATE MILITARY EXPERTS for ADVISORY SERVICES.
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
LET’s not be KNOW IT ALLs, when we actually don’t know it all, and gamble with the lives of our citizenry and nation.
JF-17 Thunder looks like a done deal as predicted by many on this blog…
https://www.facebook.com/jf17pakistan
And here too…
http://www.pac.org.pk/news
Nothing here proves that NAF is going to acquire the JF17 even by 2016.
It did not take GOWON this long to acquire a squadron of Migs during the Civil war. History will not be kind to this administration due to the disgraceful way they have gone about acquiring something that is urgently needed. This administration is beginning to CRUCIALLY identify by their true actions they deep down do not, cannot, shall not end this war.
The true actions of an administration are being shown for what they are MUBI is most def in BOKO HARAM DIRECT CONTROL. The HOS prefers to Burkina Faso.
Constructive Criticism #6
The office of the President needs to ask his COAS and by extension why they cannot retake Mubi, He also needs to ask him what is his plan of action for this weekend as boko HARAM have already started the weekend straight after JIMOH with a bomb blast as I predicted. He Jonathan should ask Kenneth what ARE HIS PLANS?
Same tori as previously posted by @Augustine. I was all for believing the SU-27/30 story, but always doubted the JF-17 alleged delivery to TAC simply because of the number of platforms the Pakistanis can manufacture at the moment with the block II airframe and lack of training time for pilots to man them.
At least there had been rumours of NAF pilots training in a small country regarding the Sukhoi rumour which gave it more credibility, but alas, we await the unveiling at a time aNd date convenient to the forces that be.
http://allafrica.com/stories/201411032302.html
Constructive Criticism #5
The Nigerian Army and the Nigerian Airforce at some point in time must dedicate a battalion and a special regiment to fighting this war unconventionally that means going after the leaders harassing bh towns under their rule ( yes under their rule) and finally specifically bombing areas where their leaders reside. their is nothing legally wrong in snatching well known boko haram leaders off the street in Mubi nothing at all .
My ogas, story don get long leg! US Soldiers, Egyptian Pilots ‘Storm’ Nigeria to Fight Boko Haram: http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/us-soldiers-egyptian-pilots-storm-nigeria-to-fight-boko-haram.99113/ If this story is true, what do you guys make of the presence of the Egyptian pilots?
From another angle: http://dailypost.ng/2014/11/07/us-soldiers-storm-nigeria-counter-boko-haram/
Maybe we got some Cobras on ‘lease’ and Egyptian pilots are to fly them.
Foreign pilots have always been a good idea. I advocated for foreign pilots using PMCs on this blog some time ago… that idea attracted some significant disagreements from fellow Beegeagle bloggers. Where are we coming from in this arena; Nigeria had about two MIG pilots in the old days that were among the top ten in the world, our pilots also won some prizes at some airshows. To rebuild that standard for 4th/4.5th generation jets is going to take some work and time. Let us use foreign pilots to take out these misguided but evil kids for now whilst we are training our people.
Well, well, if this is true, then Doziex has been vindicated :). They may not be PMCs but they will surely assume similar roles and even more shameful to have Egyptian pilots bombing within Nigerian territory. One part of me hopes this is false for the sake of national pride; another part will be happy if this is true since our incompetence in dealing with non-professional fighters has been very glaring to the whole world and we cant continue watching our folks up north getting murdered. If this is true, then we Nigerians should tow the path of humility when arguing with fellow Africans over military prowess, shikena.
The last time Egyptian pilots saw action in Nigeria was during the Nigerian civil war. I was probably 3 of 4 and had not even landed Nigeria, so all this is military history.
Anyway, story goes that the Egyptian pilots employed by the Federal side deliberately bombed churches and WCC supplies going to refugee camps at great cost to civilians on the Biafra side. So it is looking like reverse déjà vu (or some may say karma) that we have same country’s pilots going to be bombing targets up north soon.
We only hope they will not be targeting mosques.
Oga deway,
I really pray that story is true.
The 40 americans, would most likely be green berets.
To be embedded with the Nigerian army. Either at all levels or just the hq. Level as currently obtains in Iraq.
Any Egyptians would most likely be PMCS.
Egypt has an abundance of combat trained pilots.
The advising and mentor ship will be done by the US.
Obama has perhaps begrudgingly decided to throw Nigeria a life line.
Mark my words.
Once NA engages the right advisers, this war will become a cake walk.
There is nothing special or unpredictable about BH.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2014/10/24/Explosion-heard-near-army-base-in-Egypt-s-Sinai-.html
I doubt the story of Egyptian pilots. Egypt is battling its own version of Boko Haram in the North East of the country, in the Sinai peninsula, and to be honest, the Egyptians, given the scale of the attacks which is smaller in scale and frequency compared to the Boko Haram insurgency, yet like the Nigerians the Egyptians are almost unable to fight the Sinai militant group Ansar Bayt al-Maqsis. It would be a surprise for the Egyptians to send pilots to Nigeria when they are in fact facing a more complex Islamist uprising with the potential to become another Libya or Iraq given the anger with the extremist and even moderate Muslim groups concerning the usurpation of Mursi’s mandate by the military, and the banning of the Muslim Brotherhood.
The only possibility, would be, if these pilots are ex-Egyptian officers who have been hired by Nigeria to help fly some newer fighter jets in the short term.
As for the news on the American soldiers, I wont bet a penny on it. America already has a standing force around the Gulf of Guinea under US-AFRICOM,special forces in Niger and I would imagine 40 US soldiers would likely be training personnel for the NA as the Americans would do everything to conceal the evidence of boots on the ground in Nigeria, If they were being sent into combat against BH given the Nigerian public’s suspicions of the American mainly by Northerners. It would be a no-brainer for America to send soldiers against Boko Haram unless of course they had received actionable intel on the location of the Chibok girls and a rescue mission had become feasible. But even at that, the Americans would prefer to go it alone. They did same against Pakistan, a far more valuable ally than Nigeria.
Nigerian Military has to destroy BH on there own and fast, Once foreign advisers/SOF – Soldiers of Fortune are brought in by the FGN, you would witness an escalation that would baffle all, There would be a great influx of Jihadi foreign fighters, equipments and fundings to BH, from Islamist group that want to kill Westerners. Right now it is viewed as an African on African thing and apart from a few north African providing logistic support for a price, ther a no real foreign involvement. The Nigerian Military has the capacity to neutralize this group, if the strike out in might. The West mean us no good, They are posturing for control when the cold war and resources war with China hots up. As common in Afghanistan and Iraq, you would find Senior Nigerian Officers expected to take instructions and jump for Jnr ranks of this Foreign Advisers, Why do you think the various blue on blue shooting became very common between US advisers and Afghan Officers. If we still want to be the pride of the continent, don’t even let your mind go there, it will come at a point as a personal experience. Here we go dancing around the issue again, proper platforms with adequate weapon/ bomb loads, eg SU25 Scorpions or dedicated mud movers, which also has protection for the valuable pilot/flight crew and offering good combat loiter time, not soft skin, low combat survival expectancy, primary trainers by design. not very effective in good and prolonged line of sight environment Sahel/,Desert ( Visibility /line of sight to engage by AA systems were reduced by tree canopy and vegetation in the Liberian /Sierra Leone theatre).
Is the Nigerian political establishment, which includes the hierarchy of the armed forces, genuinely interested in fighting Boko Haram or has the insurgency become another lucrative superstructure for milking the country?
We need to ask this question, which although seems to have an obvious answer, all the same re-evaluating the possible answers, may help us realise the true magnitude of the mess we are in and the difficult solutions that would be fundamental to reaching the unthinkable choices we have to make as a nation.
Dear Ogas, being my only link to Defence info from home, pls is this true or they just mixed up the unit involved. http://leadership.ng/news/389560/riot-police-lead-nigerian-troops-liberate-badehs-hometown
Egyptian pilots to help Nigeria? Funny newspaper report.
Which jets will they fly? F-16? Is that a COIN fighter? NAF has better COIN skills than all pilots in Egypt combined. Our urgent need is Mi-35 Helicopter gunships and Mi-171 armed transport helos, we can get Russian, Ukranian, or Bellarussian mercenary pilots for those, so why call Egypt, are they bringing Apache helos?
40 American soldiers, same USA that failed with over 50,000 soldiers in Afrghanistan? So 40 marines will fight or do intel work that Nigerian army with 4 years experience on this NE zone COIN war cannot do?
Last time British special forces came to Nigeria for rescue of the kidnapped, it ended in disater.
The story is funny and insane, why not get Paki JF-17 with Paki pilots if we are desperate for air power? Why not get Brazilian Super Tucano with merc pilots?
Why not get Israeli intel soldiers instead of Americans? The story is one I cannot prove wrong, ut it does not look right also, based on logic.
Anyway, why does Nigeria need foreign help now when we refused it at the climax of Chibok girls disaster? Aussie Green Berets SF were eager to come her e with better intentions and sincerity than the yankees or tommies.
Final offensive will crush Boko Haram if it takes place with the right men,officers, equipment, logistics, communications, determination, skill, experience, patriotism, planning, preparation, training, rehearsal, etc.
Nigeria is suffering hard for neglecting military power build up in peacetime like South Africa has done wisely, now we hear all sorts of humiliation at random being stuffed down our Nigerian throats.
If Nigeria needs foreign help to fight Boko Haram, what help will we need to fight Morocco, Algeria, Ethiopia, Angola, South Africa ?
We go call King Kong or Godzilla ?
Israel depends on the Americans, and every intel the Israelis get hold of is already known to the Americans, so whichever way we look at it, we have to deal with the Americans if we, as in most things Nigerian, believe we lack the ability to do it.
If we meddle with the thought of using Pakistani jets and pilots, we are also dealing with the Americans, the Chinese and the Russians indirectly because the JF-17 is based on part Russian tech and design, American and European made engines and avionics, and the rest is Chinese technology with some Pakistani input.
We have the mentality of tooling up our forces with third rate systems at almost the price of buying same from the very firms that manufacture these weapons by sourcing these hardware directly from in-country vendors. We should only have ourselves to blame for what is going on in Nigeria because it is completely insane to leave in the hands of politicians and service chiefs what amounts to complex hardware procurement requiring a combination of first class technical, financial, and combat expertise in those fields.
Look at the Nigerian armed forces, we are still using stock AK47 for almost all the services from the police, army, navy, air force and even our so-called special forces.
In Nigeria, we still procure hardware and weapons systems like someone buying a ram in Mangu market.
Your point on procurement is supported. We have previously suggested on this blog a semi independent, multi disciplinary procurement agency within DHQ because of the sheer complexity involved in buying modern weaponry and its political, commerciality and technical sub facets. This is potentially $1B-) of expenditure a year, with training packages, local support, maintenance, reliability and local content involved.
Who in all honesty has been properly trained on this in Nigeria?.
Though Francophone countries around us do not pose a serious aerial threat in exception of Chad with it’s Su25 and Mig29 (Courtesy of their president who is an ex-fighter pilot) and also Equatorial Guinea building up a small force of SU25s, their line pilots constantly fly the Mirage F1 in Gabon and other selected types in France. In short they can purchase or lease this aircraft under an existing inter country arrangement and can bring in and be operational in very short order.
Nigerian Military has to destroy BH on there own and fast, Once foreign advisers/SOF – Soldiers of Fortune are brought in by the FGN, you would witness an escalation that would baffle all, There would be a great influx of Jihadi foreign fighters, equipments and fundings to BH, from Islamist group that want to kill Westerners. Right now it is viewed as an African on African thing and apart from a few north African providing logistic support for a price, there are no real foreign involvement. The Nigerian Military has the capacity to neutralize this group, if they strike out in might. The West mean us no good, They are posturing for control when the cold war and resources war with China hots up. As common in Afghanistan and Iraq, you would find Senior Nigerian Officers expected to take instructions and jump for Jnr ranks of this Foreign Advisers, Why do you think the various blue on blue shooting became very common between US advisers and Afghan Officers. If we still want to be the pride of the continent, don’t even let your mind go there, it will come at a point as a personal experience. Here we go dancing around the issue again, proper platforms with adequate weapon/ bomb loads, eg SU25 Scorpions or dedicated mud movers, which also has protection for the valuable pilot/flight crew and offering good combat loiter time, not soft skin, low combat survival expectancy, primary trainers by design. not very effective in good and prolonged line of sight environment Sahel/,Desert ( Visibility /line of sight to engage by AA systems were reduced by tree canopy and vegetation in the Liberian /Sierra Leone theatre).
Thank you Captain Tobias, an insightful write up there from you.
@Tobias
This is good stuff, Thanks.
Your views are not too clear on Foreign pilots to be temporarily employed by NAF though.
On foreign Pilots, Personally , we are not expecting any air to air engagement in regards the BH theatre, ( There is no air superiority tussle) just effective ground support and coordination with the ground forces or embedded forward ground controller. So their is no dire need for foreign pilots except for training, if we get good advanced aircraft ( SU30s, etc). NAF needs dedicated ground strike platforms in good number with adequate bomb loads to decimate or halt BH attacks and turn their retreats to pure bolting, The most basic task of a trained fighter pilot would be to act as a precise extension ( long range artillery) for ordinance delivery, Our pilots should be able to do this effectively ( there are even no man-pads), this was done effectively in the ECOMOG ops and even was done by the low time Mini-con pilots during the civil war. There is a problem somewhere, (with so much talents in the Nigerian defense forces). NAF hits BH targets and there is no expedited ground follow-up action. NAF’s Air operations on BH should have been a training ground for perfection of delivery tactics that are “born in Battle”.
We are suffering from the break in training and neglect of the Airforce which began during the coup era, grounding NAF. Now every pilot wants to get into the PAF. The MOD and Nation stopped holding the guy’s in the flying suits in high esteem as the cutting edge of modern warfare. I just hope we are learning from this lessons. We need to plan that some times in the not too far future, we would have to rattle our NE neighbor and we had better be ready.
On foreign Pilots, Personally , we are not expecting any air to air engagement in regards the BH theatre, ( There is no air superiority tussle) just effective ground support and coordination with the ground forces or embedded forward ground controller. So their is no dire need for foreign pilots except for training, if we get good advanced aircraft ( SU30s, etc). NAF needs dedicated ground strike platforms in good number with adequate bomb loads to decimate or halt BH attacks and turn their retreats to pure bolting, The most basic task of a trained fighter pilot would be to act as a precise extension ( long range artillery) for ordinance delivery, Our pilots should be able to do this effectively ( there are even no man-pads), this was done effectively in the ECOMOG ops and even was done by the low time Mini-con pilots during the civil war. There is a problem somewhere, (with so much talents in the Nigerian defense forces). NAF hits BH targets and there is no expedited ground follow-up action. NAF’s Air operations on BH should have been a training ground for perfection of delivery tactics that are “born in Battle”.
We are suffering from the break in training and neglect of the Airforce which began during the coup era, grounding NAF. Now every pilot wants to get into the PAF. The MOD and Nation stopped holding the guy’s in the flying suits in high esteem as the cutting edge of modern warfare. I just hope we are learning from this lessons. We need to plan that some times in the not too far future, we would have to rattle our NE neighbor and we had better be ready.
Na wa o. Funny that the comment i made ages ago still gets carried over like its the most current comment.
Oga ozed it’s because this thread is getting full and I don’t know, it may have a limit of megabytes, if that is used up, maybe we won’t be able to post again unless a new thread is opened.
http://www.punchng.com/news/13-killed-40-injured-in-bauchi-twin-blasts/
The beat goes on.
Boko Haram is not yet as strong as they were in April to August, they have not fully recovered from Damboa and Konduga blows of death.
NAF just destroyed 100 Boko vehicles last week, it’s up to Nigerian army to diligently perfect the grand master-plan before we launch a big final offensive and Boko will be reduced from Elephant to ant. Mubi can be surrounded and turned into another Konduga Boko Haram graveyard, but only if Nigerian army is up to the standard needed to achieve all these expected professional feats.
Algerian military is a bright shining world class example of a good counter insurgency army and air force in a nearly 100% Islamic country fighting victoriously against over 40,000 Islamic Jihadists.
Nigerian military should just become like Algerian military in capacity and capability, that’s all we need to end this war.
Oga Manny Adel, the JF-17 Thunder is the ONE AND ONLY combat aircraft proved to have been officially and evidently evaluated by NAF since the weak F-7NI jets final delivery 2010.
Now that the western powers have blocked all lethal weapons to Nigeria, we have no where to go again, except the Russian Su-30 Flankers, but the only NAF photos we see are all with JF-17 Thunder 4th Generation Multi-Role Jet Fighter, including the manufacturing plant that may point to imminent purchase and technology transfer, same way NN got tech transfer to build P18N stealth OPV.
Nigerian air force will not stay forever with the weak and crashing F-7NI jets…aka flying coffins.
oga wot of d su 30.i thought oga beeg comfirmed it ,and wot of our 45m boats manufactured in d us n our p18n ship
Oga giles if you read my post, I still mentioned the Su-30 Flanker. Only thing I emphasized is that it is only JF-17 Thunder that NAF has been photographed and reported officially to be interested in buying, but I have a guess we may have got a few units in NAF base Makurdi already for evaluations in our Nigerian environment by NAF pilots.
May I add that NAF may be short of pilots for the new 40 + 12 combat/transport helicopters coming in from Russia/Belarus because it takes about 6 months to train a pilot and NAF pilots were crashing the Mi-35 Hinds when we first received them years ago.
Not a bad idea to get Russian trainers to NAF base Ilorin or mercenary pilots mixed with NAF co-pilot/weapons officers on each helicopter’s two man crew, and keep the mercenaries secret to reduce Nigeria’s international shame.
Nigeria has a big problem, we never learn, at age 54 years.
NAF had no combat aircraft at Biafran war outbreak, we ran for help to Sudan, Algeria, Egypt in 1967 to lease/loan MiG jets with mercenary pilots.
Again 1990 ECOMOG war NAF had no helicopter gunships like Mi-35 Hind and no dedicated ground attack jets like Su-25 Frogfoot, we chose to let 1,000 Nigerian soldiers die cheaply.
Now again 24 years after our second error, we make the same error again for the 3rd time, NAF is hurrying to buy combat helicopters and aircraft in the middle of a war, after 4 years in Boko Haram war with clearly visible air power weakness and shortage of combat aircraft.
You see why black nations find it hard to make progress ? You see it ?
Where is Oga Beeg? Its like he has gone AWOL again. He is missed.
pls d comments are much,for d sake of us following d blog who don’t have enough MB pls move to first post as agreed .thank u
Oga we need to all agree on what thread we move to, and why that particular thread, or else we lose contact with ourselves as most bloggers won’t know where the rest have moved to. I think Oga Beegeagle should have been sponsored covertly by Nigerian government to maintain the costs of operating this blog…..from FG security votes account where no one will ask questions about how it was spent.
Let’s hope this plan is real and comes to fruition.
Some insightful things into what went wrong and how BH were dressed in Military fatigues to deceive soldiers.
Forgot to post the article.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-plans-operation-no-mercy-against-boko-haram/193540/
please im not receiving posts anymore, was i removed
My ogas, permit me to declare this thread closed! Like Oga Giles said ” d comments are much,for d sake of us following d blog who don’t have enough MB pls move to first post as agreed .thank u”
So, let’s move to the “COUNTERINSURGENCY PROCUREMENT: FEDERAL GOVT OF NIGERIA PLACE ORDER FOR HELICOPTERS….”thread!
So…is oga Beegs OK? is there anyone here that knows him personally that can put our minds at ease that he is hale and hearty…..just concerned.
So…is oga Beegs OK? is there anyone here that knows him personally that can put our minds at ease that he is hale and hearty…..just concerned.
Better: Senate Committee Summons Service Chiefs, Says Insurgency is Embarrassing
13 Nov 2014
By Omololu Ogunmade in Abuja
Concerned by the escalation of terrorist acts and unrestrained destruction of lives and property in the North-east, the Senate Committee on Defence Wednesday summoned the Chief of Defence Staff, Air Vice Marshall Alex Badeh, and Chief of Army Staff, Major General Kenneth Minimah, to appear before it on Friday.
The summons which was provoked by last Monday’s gruesome killing of 49 school children by a suicide bomber in Potiskum, Yobe State, is expected to among others, witness the senior military officers giving account of their stewardship especially on why state of emergency rule and high appropriation for security have not yielded any desired result.
The summons is also coming on the heels of an alarm raised by the Deputy Governor of Borno State, Mr. Zanna Mustapha, in Yola, the Adamawa State capital, last week that given the ease with which Boko Haram insurgents had been capturing territories in Adamawa, Borno and Yobe States, the three states would soon be history.
Disclosing this yesterday, Chairman, Senate Committee on Army and Defence, Senator George Sekibo, said the service chiefs had been summoned by the committee to provide it with vivid account of the security situation in North-east and why senseless killings and wanton destruction have worsened under emergency rule.
Sekibo who also said the meeting would present the service chiefs with the opportunity to get the senators acquainted with the challenges confronting them in the terror prone states, added that the tragic news coming from North-east despite the huge assistance provided to the military so far is embarrassing and offensive to all Nigerians.
He also said the meeting would be thorough when compared with previous meetings adding that the situation is more worrisome in view of the closeness of 2015 polls and scheduled primaries, saying the situation implies huge difficulties awaiting conduct of elections and primaries in the area.
“I know as a Senate that we have done whatever we need to do to support the Armed forces to combat the battle and bring insurgents to their knees. I also believe that virtually all the directives the Senate has passed on to the president, he has also honoured them including the recent $1 billion loan that was requested for. I believe that in addition to the $1 billion through the office of the National Security Adviser, they will also be providing funds for the purchase of military equipment but for us to wake up and hear that we are being overrun in some areas is embarrassing.
“I believe that we cannot stay here while we have not heard from the service chiefs. That is why we have summoned the service chiefs tomorrow by one o’clock. We want to hear from them, to know areas they have problems and whatever the problems will be, we want to advise them to properly open up because Nigerians are tired of asking the same questions. We want to ask questions different from what we had been asking. I believe everyone is worried especially after the last bombing in the school in Yobe State.
“The elections are coming so fast in the next few weeks. People are going for primaries and we are worried whether our colleagues in the North-east can go for primaries. Where will they start from? I believe that after the meeting tomorrow, some of these questions will be answered. Between the last declaration of state of emergency till now, Mr. President heeding the voice of National Assembly, has procured some equipment and one of the issues we are going to have tomorrow at the meeting is to have an inventory of equipment we have on ground. We also want to be sure that we have competent manpower. How did the insurgents get their equipment? How did they get them through the border?” Sekibo asked.
for christ sAKE WHERE IS OGA BEEGS OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.IF SOMEONE HAS HIS CONTACT PLS LET ME HAVE IT SO I CAN CONFIRM IF HE IS OKAY
Latest information on the ground
The Nigerian Army has taken delivery of a sizable number of tanks and are blasting their way into the North East from Yola axis. Their present location is unknown but reports state that the casualties on the side of bokoharam is huge with a good number of losses of their AA guns and other weapons.
The bokoharam fighter are being decimated and NA spirits are very high. Not heard men this happy in months better still, I have not hear men sound this enthusiastic in the last two years (you won’t believe me).
Reports further say that North Easterners are coming out in huge numbers to join the fighting on the side of the Nigerian Government.
Gentlemen, the North East is currently experiencing heavy fire.
Latest information on the ground
The Nigerian Army has taken delivery of a sizable number of tanks and are blasting their way into the North East from Yola axis. Their present location is unknown but reports state that the casualties on the side of bokoharam is huge with a good number of losses of their AA guns and other weapons.
The bokoharam fighter are being decimated and NA spirits are very high. Not heard men this happy in months better still, I have not hear men sound this enthusiastic in the last two years (you won’t believe me).
Reports further say that North Easterners are coming out in huge numbers to join the fighting on the side of the Nigerian Government.
Gentlemen, the North East is currently experiencing heavy fire.
http://helihub.com/2014/11/06/agustawestland-ships-first-nigerian-vip-aw101/
Check out the new VVIP NAF chopper
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We are pleading with you to transfer this thread to the july thread concerning procurement so that every one can view it
Chief Jimmy, wilco.
http://helihub.com/2014/11/06/agustawestland-ships-first-nigerian-vip-aw101/
Reports reaching me from a class mate and resident of Gombi town in Adamawa indicate that it has fallen to Boko Haram.
http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/military-moves-to-attack-sambisa/194116/